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on the captured lands of ukraine, putin declares martial law, general surovikin becomes the face of the war in russia, who even it is painful to read, but the kremlin's statements about the possible undermining of the kakhovka hpp indicate that the russians do plan to do it and do it in the night watch studio, we will discuss the main craziness of the kremlin and try to figure out what dad is up to natalya ostrovska maria vasilievna is in hanplinsky and discuss with us on this topic will be valentin glynykh, a political scientist candidate of philosophical sciences, friends, i think that the main mystery that we have to solve in our broadcast, first of all, is this, in my opinion, absurd decision by putin about the declaration of martial law in the territories in which it is already going the war, the territory that is controlled in fact
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, in most of ukraine, the russians call it the already annexed territory. what is your opinion about that? why was this done by putin, who underestimated the kremlin’s decisions and did not call them silly as you are. allow me to disagree and say that everything they do is logical if they maintain martial law in the territory they captured, that is, they already have the legal decision to declare mobilization and take our own people to fight against ours, so they did this before that, but so massively and officially. well, i think that this is not the main reason, even if it was so . valentina, what do you think? the main reason is actually to demonstrate that they consider these annexed territories part of their legal fields and that state sovereignty extends to them well, this will definitely be followed by a whole
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series of those uh steps that have already been mentioned. that is, this and forced mobilization will most likely take place and alienation of property, as already written that this is the legalization of looting and forced labor for well, the local population and the restriction of rights and freedom if we can talk in principle about the rights and freedoms in the occupied territories, then well, in fact, it will not have any practical consequences, but these are symbolic consequences well, of course they have a place, that is, the same thing they could do, they did without any legal justification. well, now they will do it, allegedly referring to some offense, some legal justification, but we understand that no sovereignty of the russian federation can be spread on this territory. that is, all these decisions are null and void from a legal point of view. well, how is it correct that someone has already joked about this,
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if jokes are appropriate in such a situation, but zelenskyi and the verkhovna rada of ukraine introduced there martial law on february 24, and formally, that is, not only in the territories, martial law was imposed by the ukrainian state on illegal grounds, because it is an integral territory of the ukrainian state - it is official, it means that this is a purely virtual action because, well, first of all, you annex the territory with which you do not control you are completely leaving because even zaporizhzhia, the regional center of the zaporizhia region, which he declared annexed, was not controlled by the russian army for a single day, and it also does not control many districts of the kherson region, and so on and so on. that is, it is a purely virtual action. first, you allegedly annex these territories, and then you allegedly impose a kind of martial law on them. and by the way, it is not clear that there is russian martial law in this village, but in this one it is no longer there or not. how is it
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at all ? well, this is completely absurd and it seems to me that it is simply a calculation on the russian audience more than on anything of practical sense, these actions, in my opinion, have absolutely no meaning to agree with him , and i agree because it seems to me exactly the domestic consumer was the main goal of putin and the main meaning of the declaration of this state of war was to move the war actually to the territory of russia, friends, a special situation is happening now putin actually created in the heads of russians the awareness that he put there the awareness that the war is going on in the territory of russia and in their propaganda programs, they will now open a map of the new russia that they have drawn for themselves and will say, look, the war is going on in the territory of russia, and now it does not matter in which she goes to the region, she can follow their calculations
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in the zaporizhzhia region. she can go to the belgorod region, it doesn’t matter. she can go to the crimea, and for them it will all be a war on the territory of russia and all the deterioration of the lives of russians and what they are already talking about. listen frankly. why should we? well , some kind of incomprehensible, incomprehensible special military operation has begun on the territory of ukraine, and we are suffering from this, now this picture will change in their heads and friends will say that the war is going on in russia, that is why your life is getting worse, that's why mobilization is going on, that's why enterprises are starting to work for the defense of the country, because look again at the map , ukrainian fascists, together with nato troops, are waging war on the territory of ukraine, you reminded me of a joke about a map. please give me a map of russia, do you have one ? and for you, what number yes yes yes and there is no other meaning and after a few months, the
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russians will be told from their tv show that friends we have been at war for 9 years, the war in russia has been going on for 9 years oh how an eagle yes and ostanzia fighting from the oceans or oceans is at war with astasia, and no one and no one understands when someone fell out with whom. how it all started and for the russians, they will perceive this as a distorted reality about the fact that, well, it was really a war when ukraine also attacked russia, no one will understand it, but there will be one message on their tv show, no one knows what that means. but for them it will be a war on the territory of russia, which was unleashed by other countries. i think this is the only way to synchronize the mothers of the captured russian who tried to call and show their son, look, he alive and well, they tried to talk to her, but what came out of it, let's see, is your son in the country, do you know or yes, yes, there is
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no way, it can't be like that, wait , it's interesting, yes, you yourself, i certainly don't think that you can do anything in this situation they demand from me if you don't want to. you always divorce everyone. this is known to us for a long time. your fascist country. well, i understand. how do they divorce you? well, zombies. i don't believe that my son is in captivity. when they show him to me, i'll go to the military enlistment office and ask how i don't even have anything to do to add, she even wanted to talk to her son and he confirms that yes, this is my mother, well, this is a distortion of valentine, a distortion of the world from
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the adoption of the russians through the declaration of martial law, the version that i voiced. it can be real as it is, well, i would say that it is even will play a negative role because as long as they are fighting on foreign territories, it creates the illusion of such security. and when it is already on your territory, the attitude is somewhat different. well, look. what was the reaction to this partial mobilization, in fact it was a full mobilization negative in russian society, even their propagandists could not hide it, that is, it was so obvious that it could not even be covered with some virtual pictures and the information space anyway. now look at their publics again. because their publics reflect their reality and not ours , we still have to honestly admit it, well, just the same.
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well, there is a lot of dissatisfaction with the conduct of the military state because there is such an interesting point and the russian drew attention to this point because there already additional powers are given not only to these territorial bodies of the occupation authorities, but they also grant additional powers to other subjects of the executive power of other sub objects of the russian federation. well, this means that without formally imposing martial law on the territory of the entire russian federation, putin essentially gave the authorities the right to use the tools provided for conducting a legal military regime state and the russians are afraid of it because what is happening there in kherson is in principle well, let's not be hypocritical or deceive
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ourselves. or what will happen in the eugeian region or somewhere else, this is what worries the russians much more, so this is from the point of view of propaganda. and here we are, as in ours, we all probably have truth formations. as people work in the information space, we tend to watch everything through the prism of the interests of some kind of informational work. it is possible that they think that way, but the fact is, firstly, that it will not work that way. well, because there will be opposite, so to speak , negative consequences, even in the information space, they will still be there, because fear is fear anyway it appears, that is, it turns out that yesterday there was some kind of special operation in our country, and they were prosecuted for the very word war, and now we are under martial law and now there is a war on our territory, that is, we are now at war, but before it was a consensus about but who said that the people are on their own, the government is on its own, there are some contract workers here, they wanted to earn money, well, it was their choice, they went to fight, they wanted to finish it, well, they killed, well, the work is so
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good, and when conscripts appear there now, when they appear there mobilized people, by the way, this is their term, paradoxically, russia invented it now for them , the great patriotic war, and the mobilized and conscripts, yes, they are already going to protect russian lands from the enemy. it was, but it will not be. we are discussing how it could be. and we are trying to find this key to deciphering this event , that is, what meaning did they put here, did they gather there in the kremlin, or somewhere in a bunker? yes, and they are discussing declaring martial law, why? well, for example, you can ban the use of the internet, which is for the russian authorities, the dissemination of information that is absolutely unprofitable because they have already created their own virtual reality there, in which they believe, well, how did we see this mother, yes, she is a
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retired, elderly woman, and just pensioners in russia, in particular, they strongly support mobilization and the war in ukraine, the most out of all, i saw the results of the survey. and mr. valentin, you can also confirm this, he is the biggest and supports them, although they do not need to go to war and they do not need to die, that is, they are there and of course they support them. it's for this internet, it's evil , you understand that's why it's better to ban this internet from tv, they'll tell me that i don't have a son or a daughter at all, you know, i need to call me more, they told me that i don't have a son, i have a daughter at all, that's exactly what this interview is about ago as far as russia is concerned, it is possible that they announced something very cunningly in these territories that are ukrainian, they announced a complete state of war in the russian territories, what does this mean that whatever it is, it is just whatever this is their russian novoyas this is what allows you to simply enter
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any - which mode, that is, somewhere, how to choose in the menu, you know, somewhere we will ban the internet, and somewhere we can simply take cars from people, and somewhere there, er, is there an enterprise, for example, to oblige to work er, three, three shifts for the needs of the russian army for example, or to do anything at all. i am not surprised at all, because in russia there is such a legal situation that characterizes simply the absence of any order in principle , that is, just doing whatever you want without any. well , in which country, tell me, is it possible to contradict one's own laws to mobilize people who are serving their sentences in places specially designated for this purpose, except in russia, and they violate their own legislation, then after recruiting these prisoners, they begin to change the law so that it is possible somehow well, somehow, it is necessary to remember this engraving in two months or three months, how many do they do it? yes, it is necessary to formalize it somehow, and that is why it is not on the
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one hand for ukraine . and for the russians themselves, who, you know , sit and think about everything. well, maybe they won’t ban something, maybe there are at least some. i’ll go on the internet there at night and look at something, or you know how bloggers say, they’re not even political, but i just don’t know girls there who are about fashion bloggers talk about beatings they say they say in prohibited social networks, that means i have an account there too, you are here i come in and what does this mean , only russians can understand each other what is meant by instagram, well, it is a cool tool to change for those who are mobilized to the thesis that we are going seize the territory of ukraine, change it to we are going to liberate russian lands, that’s not how they liberated russian lands at the very beginning , or for them, the entire territory of ukraine is russian lands. and in the hypothetical, of course. well, the thing is different, when a conscript dies, he is brought to
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package, well, he is the path himself, then they paid for him, and when a boy who has already been mobilized and did not want to fight is brought in a package in russian, yes, a russian contract worker. package already and er then the russian society will think and what did he die for, but the war is already a war in us this is how to work er because there is a theory of cognitive dissonance yes festinger aronson who just researched this phenomenon well not a single soldier never admits that he died there, well, it doesn’t matter who he is, but that he is crippled there in a completely indifferent war, that is, the majority in order to somehow justify the price he paid , the more losses there are, the more he will look for arguments to convince that this it was not in vain, this is an artificial matism, we are an excuse for russians
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, it works like this, it works in principle yes, homo sapiens is like that well, just like, for example, this mother yes, her son died, do you think she will one day admit that she died with this as a criminal, scoundrels scum, absolutely taking part in an aggressive war of aggression, well, no, he can’t do it like that. well, some can, but for that, they have a very sufficient level of spiritual, if not worldview development, most, no, most will say that my son is a hero. well, when everyone else was afraid. in short he went to protect mother russia and died heroically, not in a spirit like a pokie with a toilet, when he ran away, he gave rudely and blew himself up on his own stretch marks, well, that is, ani heroically , they will still give him some titles and she will tell to their children and grandchildren well, they will only contribute to alcohol intoxication, that is, there is no need to deceive yourself. well, and make some illusions that now they are suddenly
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changing things with a click. look how much this process took place in germany after the second world war. well when the majority of germans saw all this, well , they paid a terrible price, and they still believed that hitler was right, we just didn't have enough talent, everyone turned against us. it took decades to fix it, there is a video the other day that appeared on the network when in russia they call my mother and she is riding on a trolleybus and they say that your son has died well then we missed it and she said damn ukraine you are to blame for everything there, the reptilians are to blame, and whoever is to blame. well, that’s how it works, that is, you have to understand that the more you invest in it, the more difficult it will be to abandon it, but this festing himself he noticed it when he was researching one sect that testified about the end of the world. well, he is interested in how
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i had a social psychologist to investigate this phenomenon. he enrolled in this class. well, he went and watched. that is, what processes took place and then when, well, many people understood that the end of the world sold property, quit their jobs, left their families, well, he was interested. that when the date comes and the end of the world will not happen, how will they react , the order was that the more a person donated, the more he was inclined to think that he was not deceived, that everything is right, what exactly well, because the people of the sect said that precisely because of that that we they warned that the end of the world was coming because you were all ready to die, so to speak , but that didn't happen, and those people who sold the apartments got divorced there , i don't know, lost their jobs. are sure that they committed an incredible heroic act, a feat of faith, this is a super concept, if it is a working concept, if you rely on it, then they can now explain to the russians
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why their troops will retreat, they will liberate the territory of ukraine, they will return to russia they will give us the crimea and the donbass and the luhansk region and explain to them that you are now friends of the winners, you are now well done and right now nato will never attack russia, we did everything to prevent it well, so it will be, whatever will be told, a mythical story will be told about that that they repelled the attack of the martians, the reptilians who were hiding , and the nazis who were hiding, does that mean to you that the gift of the ukrainian military is anything, because mr. valentyn mentioned a very important thing, by the way, this is really how the human psyche works. i also read it once a whole book about how human brains work in such situations, if and not only in such situations, even in everyday situations, it was an example of marketing simply in shopping in a store, if you convince a person to invest money, you know, there is such a thing well,
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i can’t name a marketer, but there is such a marketing where they steam you some kind of pot for a huge amount of money , and people will be stupid, then they will change with all their relatives. they will not talk to their relatives there, because if they have doubts that they paid that money for a reason, they will prove that no, this pan is really kind of magical, it does something there that other pans don't do, and all because of what they paid, they really understand that they paid a high price for an ordinary pan and now they have to defend their choice for any the price of what they are actually doing and p. valentin is right, despite the losses , these losses will only strengthen their conviction that they did everything right and that their sacrifices were not in vain, because you can imagine what a moral and psychological trauma this is, god, what my son died for an unknown reason but they do not differ in this in life, they will be
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truly family legends until the end that their son died in some heroic situation, saved 100 million means his comrades and and and and and in general whatever and never and never they will not agree with the fact that they were wrong, you are waiting for pots and i immediately remembered our next hero, who we wanted to discuss with the pickpockets of this war on the part of russia. things uh, again, our kinship of our approaches , yes, look at this mr. syrovykin. now we will hear what he said about uh, russia's plans in kherson, but it's also very interesting there, just his appearance and the way he speaks, this is a russian sex symbol. i understand the news, please , let's listen to these symbols, it's true. i think that in relation to the city of kherson itself, it will
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depend on the composition of the military tactical situation . svoe vremya, not excluding the adoption of the most difficult decisions, pay attention to a person, even such a work of thought can be read on his face, although he is really just reading the text, we deliberately enlarged the picture in order to see how his eyes run over these texts, yes, a little, well, there is he has problems with his eyesight, he can't see anything, he is squinting and his eyes are running, you can see that he is reading it from a prompt, even while reading it, the already written text is ready, ah, you see how difficult it is for a person, in principle, to pronounce some human words, even in his native language, he agreed to this
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the story, that is, there was some kind of casting, let's see who we make the face of this war, who will be the main speaker, and the syrovykin class is what is needed. look, a super dude is afraid in this world , i don't know who is afraid of him, i can imagine how he comes home from work, what does he say wife and how does it all look in the media space of valentina's rotunda what do you think why did he appear before we didn't see who this janitor was there and his previously big 5-7 have already been changed what do you think they pulled out this uh egg for oh really here are a few aspects. well, first of all, you say why exactly him? well, you think there was a big choice, well, that is, it turns out that the entire russian army is excluded. refined intellectuals, intellectuals have all finished the entire point. yes, all tall, fit , strong people can climb the horizontal bar and pull themselves up there. there 25 times, well, no, this is the classic
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image of a russian general, by the way, it is also a very interesting point that if we look at the history of the russian empire, there were a lot of really talented, extraordinary soldiers figures, but if we look at russian literature, then this gentleman is an illustration of the history of one city, sltykov shchedrid well, hey, she said a tooth , yes, that is, to the classical understanding of the general in russian culture, that is, it is something big, eh, stupid, maximally, yes, military they have this term, yes , that is, it is shorter , absolutely. they already don't have a general in mass culture who could speak several foreign languages ​​there
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, he would have studied somewhere, he would have been an intellectual there, he would have understood everything perfectly and while the swans do not survive, he should go to general swan. yes, yes, of them, by the way, we are saying that, well, do you understand what this is in general, this is one aspect, well, regarding whether there was anyone to elect, and we smoothly moved the bridge to the point that and how did you want to see the general well, if it was there i don't know if there's a boy, roughly speaking. yes, there's a promising young man, at least like gaddafi's mother, his time, or at least 500 geese, because they were all military, yes, they all came from a military environment. in short, we will definitely lose in a shorter way. well, because they have a dissonance between what they imagine the generals to be and between those who can actually be a general, that's why they found such a character who couldn't be another,
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why did they bring him into the world of god? looked well, in order to still uh, someone will have to praise probably very unpopular decisions, well, we just see the person's face, then they themselves will say so, he's stupid, he looked, that's why they appointed him, to put it simply, yes, that is, he was not sorry, he once had an idea about what an asteroid is flying to the ground someone has to fly and destroy it we chose you why because i'm the best no because you don't feel sorry for that well, a party of fools won't fly to the sun at night, actually speaking well, yes, but from the other side well, you don't have to underestimate well adversaries, that is, the more people in the army, the stronger our defense is. a soviet proverb, and one must understand that already well, his entire structure of thinking, so to speak, is external, yes, that is, some behavioral points indicate that he is a classic embodiment of this russian principle, which means that we
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need one victory, one on all of us we are for it well, wait, it doesn’t stop in the 40s, it’s the customs officials , it’s their embodiment of the model, there are statistics on the ratio of losses, well, it starts, well, at least from those times, when losses began to be recorded in russians. they the relation to the germans is always one to seven , for example, the types of weapons change, the nature of the conduct of hostilities changes, but for some reason the losses tend to be constant, well, that means that it means that there are probably people who have specific ideas about what we protect, what we don’t take, and how is that bodonov told this story to go to the red army to wash the horses well, he says, this one, he left at ten o'clock, came back at nine, well, i ask , where is your comrade? goods what ladies they are still offending well, yes, i repeat this, well , no, some high-ranking general says, in principle, this is
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absolutely normal, an ordinary position, compare it with the statements from the ukrainian side of the same zelensky when he says that we will liberate our territories. point one, maximally reducing risks and losses among military personnel and the second is so as to minimize the loss of the civilian population, well, that is, because for us, servicemen are also a value. that is, we do not want, roughly speaking, at any cost, to simply cover everything there, roughly speaking, with corpses, but somehow reach the customs office and say kherson will be destroyed, the ukrainian military will come. there completely, completely, the bell tells who he is talking to. well, who is he talking to? he tells the same rhetoric again to the russian consumer. well, that is, those who live in kherson, well, it is clear that there are people who live in kherson what are the reasons to fear the return of the ukrainian government, well, they are traitors, collaborators , criminals, scum, scoundrels, well, it is clear that they have
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fears, but the majority of the population, i think, is waiting for a return. well, because for them it is realistic to get get back your civil rights, get your political rights back, and the most valuable thing is to get back your human rights, because under the conditions of occupation you don't even have human rights, well, you can be beaten, raped, robbed with absolute impunity, and you won't go anywhere, well, complain, i don't know how to establish justice, they took you out, they shot you buried on that your story ended that this statement about their retreat from kherson and possibly the detonation of the kakhovka hpp from the side of ukraine, which sounded the name of surovikina, she also appeared in this text that he read out for a reason, that is, it reminds me very much of the story of the crimean bridge, when the russians themselves planned this story , when they implemented it, they created a very bright media picture and then, covering themselves with it, they started

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