because they have fears, but the majority of the population. i think they are waiting for a return. well, because for them it is real to get back civil rights, get back political rights, and the most valuable thing is to get back your human rights, because under the conditions of occupation you don't even have human rights, well , they can kill you with absolute impunity to devour, to rob, and you will not go anywhere, well, to complain, i don’t know how to establish justice, you were taken away , shot, buried, that’s the end of your story, that this statement about their retreat from kherson and the possible undermining of the kakhovka hpp from the side of ukraine, which sounded the sound of surovikin, it also appeared in this text that he read out for a reason , that is, it reminds me very much of the story of the crimean bridge, when the russians themselves planned this story , when they implemented it, they created a very bright media picture and then, covering themselves with this, they began to organize this infrastructural terrorism in

ukraine and explaining it again to their internal consumer that this was ukraine's answer for what they did, you understand, because there was a key the phrase is not simple solutions and what does this mean for once again we can forget that this is an interview with rosie this is not an interview this is just a reading it's just a speech with a teleprompter so that's all there it's not even visible that he is answering someone there how many takes were there i think that was probably not enough, but i wanted to say something else. that there was a key phrase intended specifically for the russian audience, what does it mean for simple decisions and how should they read it? it means that, as you know, 30 is not an advance, that is, a retreat if you take it as a basis . the opinion that you expressed, of course if it was a normal person speaking to a ukrainian audience, for example, it can be read that way, but

let's not forget that the russians are absolutely indifferent to the ukrainians . in public, when kiev was bombed here on october 10, there was such a holiday in general, such a thing was happening, they were so happy , they mocked us so much because of these bombings, and that's why i think that for them, we need to somehow explain some excessive cruelty so that they, god forbid, don't they started to feel sorry for us, no, that didn't happen. but at the same time, they started a large resettlement of peoples from the kherson region, they are already taking people away, and this picture really struck me when on the ferries, well, as if i don't know in which age, in which century, this happens in the cold. frost special certificates are issued, people with these certificates get on ferries and go. and where do they go to siberia? that's why they publicly talk about the fact

that surovikin is right. what ukraine is planning to blow up the kakhov hpp, so we are evacuating people from the right-bank part of kherson to the left bank. and i suggest to the audience to show the topographic map that we have prepared, which shows that you can see the height differences from red to blue on and you can see that on the left side this is the right bank the heights of the dnipro are high there, and from the bottom, where the left bank is almost zero, and in the case of the explosion of the kakhov hpp, the left part of the bank of the dnipro will be flooded. on the map, yes, nova kakhovka, that is, in fact, the russians,

by announcing the evacuation of civilians from the right bank of the dnieper to the left bank, are actually exposing them to the danger from which they seem to be saving them, and here are these difficult decisions, i understand that, god forbid, of course, but the russians can arrange a terrorist attack by blowing up the kakhov hpp , retreat before this from the right bank part of kherson, our armed forces will go there, they evacuated civilians to the left bank, blow themselves up, then flood because there was no network there entrenched and they are trying to keep the enemies there , valentin said that they don't consider people as people, they don't take neither the living nor the dead and they will say well look look what a terrible, what a terrible terrorist act the ukrainians have staged against the civilians of russia and we will be forced to respond in some way otherwise, it will be very difficult to

sell this story, because it is, after all, as you rightly said a little earlier in this program that the people of russia do not care about the kherson people and you can try very hard to tell the story about what it was already our novoe novoabrioni live lilo russia but i don’t know how it is, how can it still be submitted there, there are no such normal conditions in the ukrainian language, there are no words, they say. it's a pity for those people who stayed forever, just like in the history of the crimean bridge, as for me, they are very, very outplayed in the media, how then videos of the truck explosion immediately appeared, a bunch of videos from all surveillance cameras, videos of the investigation of the truck, who are they ? they won, please tell me what they handed over , they did not win, they created the basis

for explaining to the domestic consumer their next actions, that is, how to sell to the russians the shelling, not of the ukrainian military, but the shelling, but the week-long shelling of peaceful cities and the destruction of our energy movement. they were waiting, they shouted that you are calving here. let's shoot these hated ukrainians already. why did they rejoice at this surovikin, because he will even announce defeats ? this is what you know with the general's bass, this general's roar will testify that we are winning, let us retreat, let us not conquer anything and not occupy any new cities, but we are still winning, they can put this mission to rest, he will roar with his bass, they will say that in response to the flooding of the russian the lands of the kherson region, and the destruction of tens of thousands of civilians there, we

will respond to ukraine tactically, tactically , our rivalry is absolutely indifferent, it must be said that a classic once wrote that in the conditions in a democratic regime, information performs the same role that violence performs in e-e ceramic regimes, the russian regime does not need propaganda and information, that is, it is an absolutely auxiliary tool there, everything is based on repression well, just like in the soviet union, that is why we see that the successes of russian propaganda are directly proportional it is a measure of the ability to use the repressive apparatus. well, that is, where propaganda is reinforced by the kdb, it is very effective, where the influence of the kdb or repressive bodies is significantly reduced, then, accordingly, the influence is much less that is why today's russia, that is, you believe skabeeva, you don't

believe skabeeva, it doesn't matter, please , you are talking under the blanket with your wife, you are sharing a special military operation, you are not sharing it, it does not escape anyone. on social networks publicly, then you will be killed like an ugly fly, well, that is, absolutely no propaganda methods, that's why this spiral of silence takes place. in ukraine we ignore this fact, we do not know how the russians really feel about the war in ukraine why because we only see what is articulated and made public there and we understand that the system of power relations itself makes what is articulated with greater probability is what is called the strengthening of the megaphone well when would it be better

when some mouths are gagged and others, on the contrary, with megaphones yes, so that they shout louder well, then, realizing that all the russian public will be happy to bomb uh-uh there, they kill peaceful ukrainians here just to finish the thought, ah, no one is interested in how others behave, but silence as a sign of consent, that is, the russian regime, like all dictatorships , is built on the principle of teaching consent, despite the fact that silence is not always a sign of consent. well, we understand that yes, that is, sometimes silence is the absence support yes, people are simply silent because, well, due to certain reasons, they do not have the courage or the ability to speak against it, but the khstalputin regimes, like all dictatorial ones, they live by the principle, if you remain silent , then you agree to everything, if you speak up, everything is not i agree, let's see you from the beach. that's why they don't need to explain. putin doesn't need to explain his actions. putin of the people because there is another aspect. and

what are the feedback mechanisms? well, satisfaction , but the dissatisfied people support, they don't support. it doesn't matter, it does. it matters in ukraine, it matters in germany, in the states, yes, because there the real attitude of the people to the decision of the government is important . simply, that is, putin decided that everything is supported by me. but why, on the eve of the war, was it important for russia to start shelling donbas and arrange a map of the destruction in donetsk and the cities adjacent to donetsk , and use it as a pretext for war to say that you see, we had the basis of history? well, anyway, no one i believed so, that is, the joke is that it is so much to listen to. this story is about him , this russian comedian, who he told that

there was a man standing in the tambor full of shit, the whole bur was in shit and he was standing all evil and also saying to the guide and you prove that it's me, but understand, but understand correctly that when well, uh, this person also has a machine gun in his hands well, he looks you in the face well, in principle, you can say that yes, it is probably someone else, he ran to that uh, this neighboring car, you know in this joke about how a man runs home, well, the night broadcast, to greet three people, a man runs home and thinks that somewhere his wife has a lover, so he runs, runs everywhere, looks and looks in the closet, and there is a schwarznegger and such well, what he found, he says opinion i'll go to the kitchen and look for it. that's why you need to understand that it's one thing to not eat your tongue, well, go, you just need to understand that everything they do is not a question of truth or not, it's not even a question of whether i believe

or not. this is a completely one-sided movement, we stated on this statement we put another statement on top of another statement and everything we are building is completely parallel, well , roughly speaking, this pedicle universe, you don't believe in this universe well, we have bad news for you. well, we have an inquisition that will deal with you now. do you think that you not smarter than she is after all well, in principle, you can if you do n't say it publicly, so i will repeat all these complex schemes that we are currently drawing, we are drawing as ukrainians who live in a completely different society, a completely different information field, in a different political regime, and there is all this, why are you roma, nothing to explain the discussion because simply to say also that for the crimean bridge they agreed with for this terror that they unleashed first. they started doing that before the crimean bridge and not after. that is, it is called storytelling. yes, when you took an arbitrary at some point he began to push away from it, they

started doing it from february 24, 2022, they hit infrastructure objects. that is, we can do it in 2014 , they did it in uglegorsk agea, starting with that. that is, when they captured the zaporizhzhia npp, the united states had numerous shellings . there is nothing new about the donetsk region, there is nothing more, because i don’t even look at the number of shellings. well, again, there is a question , yes, that is, regarding their effectiveness, they were previously much more massive and shot down much less now, after all, air defense is working much better, but there is also an optimistic moment, it’s just that we should send revenge. died and the one whose son is likely to die, the attitude to this war will be different, even if this war is a thousand times just

and good, yes, always to justify why she hid her son and sent him to georgia , well, my mother will not say that my son is just a coward scoundrel and ran away from the fact that zaha will never say correctly, she will say that putin unleashed an absolutely barbaric war, that my son will not die for this absolutely barbaric interest. therefore, in short, that is, the wheel will turn in this analyzed, the more people will pay the side will spin, that is, on the one hand, the more victims there are, the stronger will be the zeal of some. also play because when is this the head of the department of the security service of ukraine yes cyber security yes how his ilya er-e vityuk says that we will carry out asymmetric strikes well , we have already moved on to counterattacks - in cyberspace, that is, we don't need you to launch missile strikes

in order to make some russians think that there is no light in opa in bellarad, but i still have light , so maybe i shouldn't tempt fate for a little longer, because i may not have it either. well, you understand why, that is, this phenomenon of cognitive dissonance is a double-edged sword well, because there is a lot of time, 10 minutes left, and i want to ask two questions, well, in some ways i agree in for some reason, it seems to me that they are trying to sell an important internal audience to putin, some basis for certain actions, that is why there is this story with the shelling of belgorod and the explosion of the crimean bridge yes of course, they shelled us in the 14th year, but if you break down the events into episodes, then the episode with the massive shelling of our tez began wrapped up as a response to the explosions on the crimean bridge, but this is not the question the question is real in russia, even for what you

say or write in social networks, some alternative opinion you get several years in prison, but if your last name is not strilkov gorky, why can this person be told what she says and why can she be openly criticized criticize the ministry of defense to criticize well, he is already going beyond direct criticism of putin. yes, he is allowed to do that. and he is creating a certain alternative reality for the russian community that is said to be a person who criticizes and speaks. that the mobilization is not going like that, he mocks the government, he mocks the state leadership and nothing happens to him for it, this is the answer - this is a classic of the genre, this is the so-called gypsy hypnosis, this is when you go to the bazaar, and they tell you whether you will wear pink pants or green pants. well but the question should be asked differently, whether he will

choose trousers at all well, that is, horking does not pose the finality of the necessity of conducting this war against ukraine. in general, he does not pose, well, that is, well, i have, well, you want. not even in green, let it be orange ones, whatever, well, in that context, it’s just that he supports certain theses with his theses. well, that is, he supposedly supports certain theses with his criticism, but at the same time he supports certain theses and he is oriented towards a certain part of the audience , and he is precisely the most radical set up for them is nutritious information, i.e. despite the fact that he criticizes him there. well, why are you criticizing him so much for all these radical elements? well, he honestly calls it a war. well, because a war is a war , because he hasn’t received 20 years for it. well, that’s why that he is so because he is you so he performs a very important function there is a wonderful book by charles claver where he writes about the relations between the putin regime and the russian nationalists, how

ambiguous they were and sometimes even antagonistic, that is, they did not disappear anywhere and slides, well, that is, if you want, it’s a kind of bridge or , er, mortar, cement that tries to cement some people together with others, well, that is, for some, there are more liberal propaganda there, yes, er, there are propaganda to eat, but the thesaurus is the same, you have to understand what the hell i didn't go to berlin at all. well, that is, he clearly said what he said, but in fact he worked in the interests of the complete opposite . my grandfather once said that not everyone is your enemy, and not everyone is your friend, and not everyone is your enemy pulls, yes, it’s about the player, the cow and the cat. this story is old because girkin is now lurking. well, you have to understand that he is not pulling against putin ’s regime. he criticizes the methods in some way. he criticizes individual characters, and we don’t

know if he criticizes arbitrarily. is there a certain order as a media character. that is, we do not know all this, moreover, he gives us again such an illusion and a picture. look, they have something there, some processes are happening, but these are controlled processes. he is not a non-systemic element. this is the key point that we must understand. there is for those for that category of russians for whom putin is not enough, putin yes, that is, he is simple and he pushes putin, again, he is a kind of legitimizer for putin of certain steps, yes, that is, he opens up for putin look, girkin is already in ox-ashes. the voice of the people . look, this is what the people say in short and we can not leave this island. this is what some liberals say rudely, who are being gagged. well, we don't hear, but girkin says this is his own family, and we watch yes, and we think that look, and the days are hard and the second is hard and wanted to be hard, sometimes there is still a drag , this graduate of the third grade of the khasayur

secondary school. well, the whole story is all the politics, but they emphasize what i would like everyone to understand from them in that is to say, you will write about this plan the test that they are promoting, they are all blowing the same pipe, the war is necessary, we are fighting with the west with a collective action there against nato, in short, all the rest of this bullshit that the enemy is very dangerous and poses a threat to our interests. that is why we have to fight to the end where he decides with putin with putin because of that, and only in the fact that well, there are some corruptors, corruptors, not putin, well, that is, putin the handsome putin allocated money to the army of thoughts, the handsome united russia, all the guys, in short, but just some scumbags stole everything on the ground well, of course we have to clean up these scum, so please, now this door is opening for you so that we can commit great terror, well, in relation to certain subjects, well, now he will

poke his fingers, he says, and he is a corruptor, roughly speaking, well, putin is not corrupt, nor putin it is not possible , that is, putin is also you. if he removes himself, it is possible here, how about this general, they appointed him to make the general should make unpopular decisions, well, they are doing their job in the same way, i do not know how i am visible to the opposition, it is even it is said out loud that he is a systemic person, a systemic person, it is necessary to understand that he is a part of this system, his presence in this system does not threaten the existence of this system, it is, moreover, a forming system, that is what we do not want to understand all of this, well, how should i say it, how it is right is left, yes, that is, but so is right, left. two wings, yes, they form roses and grapes there, beautiful, this is a classic example, you can see shit and urine there, and you know the ugly. i just wanted to make one small remark literally today i listened to an interview of timati snyder, this is a very famous american historian, he explains for our

viewers, who maybe not everyone knows, of course you all know. and here he introduced a beautiful term in one of his articles, he talked about him today. i just heard him call what is happening in russia, schizo-fascism seems to me to be a very good term, you know why because they ask him why schizo-fascism what does it mean, he says very simply because it is absolutely clear by all criteria the classic fascist ideology that they profess but at not only do they call themselves anti-fascists, they also mythologize their history in every possible way, trying to prove even where we admit that we are aggressors, we are still right, we still do everything right, he is in that and calls it schizo-fascism to confirm what you say let's show the audience a fragment of them on a show on russian television, where a military expert came, not knowing that the broadcast is already being recorded, that he is on the air

. everyone already knows that these are iranian drones, but the authorities don't talk about it, so let's not talk about it. let's just listen to a fragment of this schizo-fascism. that they are iranian, you did not recognize the real, true description of today's russia. yes, but then at the moment the ether is actually still for fascism. well, not in these statements. it's just the same crisis of the genre, the problem is that it's what said that their fascism is a degeneracy of fascism, well , that is, this is the final phrase of bringing it to full caricature and the divine ether and talking we

will say that russia is the aggressor, but well, everyone understands that in fact it is liberating us, but let's not talk about it well, that's about the same yes, that is, i will tell you that during my career i have repeatedly seen similar situations when people sat on the air and said one thing and then left the mountains. do you understand what you are doing? yes, and the presenters are the same on some channels, yes, that is, which are now , unfortunately, so it’s just, well, how would i say ? they deliberately lie cynically and deliberately act as it is beneficial to them. this is not because of ignorance. yes, i did not fall for

stupidity . frankly, i am not an exculpatory fascist. god, that is, but in fascism, as correctly said yesterday, podervyanskyi has aesthetics. well, the russians are fascists . he is absolutely anti-aesthetic. under that immorality, they found some ideological foundations, they invented this white-haired bastard, to put it bluntly, he took skulls , that is, some people do it, that is, they have everything hanging in the air, and i emphasize, uh, hitler's children were not married to jews. well, i exaggerate yes, that is, they did not study in jerusalem. well, i will get it again . there was nothing then, in contrast to the russian elite, who say the same thing at the same time

with their entire lifestyle. after rasism, fascism is impossible no, i really liked it - i liked the thesis schizofascism, what kind of fascism is that, let's put an end to it natali ostrovska, maria vasilievna, i'm yevgeny plinskyi, valentin glykh was a guest with us and we ask in every broadcast, friends we save electricity, we consume responsibly, we help our energy workers in these difficult times . see you on the air. night watch. unconquered cities of ukraine. odessa, a picturesque city on

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