the driver, no one even approaches her, that's why only these scraps stretch, stretch, stretch russian churches and stretch second world war, actually, which somewhere is mixed with the period of lenin , stalin, oh vse it's such a wild mix, and i think that in the case of restoration, well, in the process of what they are rebuilding, we we will see. well, separately, of course, in all the houses that they will rebuild, they are building now and putting some playgrounds. i.e. nothing new , we see all the spiritual scraps they sprinkle in the form of monuments, but again, yes, monuments are monuments. and today in mariupol, it is plus eight, the wind is crazy in the mariupol monsoon, and people are freezing at home. that is why russia is what it is . yes, we can see it with our own eyes. unfortunately, now listen, but in addition

to the monuments in mariupol, they opened, built, opened a large morgue - this is also what they brought to the city. why is this morgue in mariupol, this is an unanswered question, why, because 7,000 m² is a morgue hmm it seems that it can be serviced in the donetsk region due to its size. why did they rebuild it at all? it’s not clear. it probably wasn’t. i was scared from the first days of the occupation, when they saw the number of dead people that they let through these terrible bodies on the street when they were putting people together. well, they built and built next to it, they built it on the same site, and in principle, what they call a diagnostic center for 69 color, but they built it already a month or a half ago, they opened it, arrived there, it was freezing cold turned on all this equipment, went for a walk, went for a walk, well,

he is actually dead, because the monument is really because the power of electricity in mariupol is not enough for this diagnostic center to work as it should work, it seems that the same story will happen with morgan, because for the morgue, the need well, we do not understand yes, there is a need for the appropriate amount of electricity and the city simply does not have such power. therefore, this is another landmark, this morgue. i think it will remain until our deoccupation. or maybe it is preparing for the counter-offensive in this way. of our armed forces and are already preparing places for themselves where they will process good russians, and before sending them home in plastic bags, let's hope for that and there is by the way this story what are the russians moscow has developed a plan to rebuild mariupol by the 35th year where in by the year 35, there should actually be half a million people there, that is, almost as much as there was before

the invasion, and that's what you think about this plan, and uh, well, this plan is a separate, interesting thing, you know. well, first of all, let's say two-thirds of this plan all that you used by the russians is all our work, in principle, since last year , which was added to the development strategy of mariupol 2330, even including the world color scheme proposed for the city, for the historical part of the city, this is simply stolen from our materials and in the old, in this development plan, so on the other hand, well it's really delusional , naturally, it's simply impossible to even imagine, god forbid, that by 2040, as they plan there in the 35th year, mariupol will remain occupied for natural reasons, but growth and construction is impossible. is it possible in principle it is possible that we see such a thing, that is, look

at the 130,000 local population with a tendency to decrease both due to emigration and due to natural death , because the majority are pensioners, already at 130,000 there are 15,000 civilian occupiers in the city - these are builders, given the recruitment of the military there - there are 1500 to 3000 military corps , the situation at the front is changing, it is clear that by november 1, they have to bring in another 15,000 civilian occupiers, that is, out of a population of 130,000, there will be only 30,000 almost russian citizens who are actually permanently already live in the city of mariupol and the locals say that they are not going anywhere, they like it very much, in fact, they mean the climate and the buildings that are directly built for them, and these are only men, that is, if you add their families - it is at least 60,000 out of 130,000 population, almost half yes, full ratios at such a pace, of course, uh, i don’t know, i came from siberia, you can bring

half a million russians, because we understand. yes, in mariupol, summer is summer and plus the sea. somewhere beyond the urals, two weeks of summer is clear. that probably who will change that climate is among the tegians yes, but the mariupol team settled these lands in the 20s of the last century after the 45th year, this reminds me of him most of all, if you take the history of mariupol, it reminds me of the history of the 60-70s those years after the second world war, yes, it was so in mariupol, in these areas, which today are the 23rd, 20th, 17th, they are simply heard, and that’s why they call it that, somewhere now, natural life arose, that is, these panel buildings that were built during the soviet season, they were built and imported the so-called khimkiv, yes, these people from the settlement colony who were convicted, they built these houses and it was left to think. this is exactly how they built

new estates at the combine, for example, ilyich, that is, in this way, the population of the city of mariupol, in particular, is unnatural. now they are just trying to repeat what is prescribed. that had already been rolled back to them by the soviet union, but well, the other situation is worse. yes, in another way, that is, at that time, at least the people of mariupol were shot down in the city, well, most of them were enough. and we see that if to start such a trend now, then in two or three years, the native mariupol residents will not remain in the city at all, in fact, and there will be exclusively russians, and this is a completely different level, such a thing has really never happened before, and this is a new level of this genocide, in fact. yes, let's call things by their names and the extermination of the ukrainian nation on the ukrainian territories but i think that a very large number of those mariupol residents

, e. lived in ukraine and they accepted this country as their own. well, it was not theirs. they already considered it their own. well, everyone who left mariupol is like that. well, i can definitely say that everyone who is evacuated on the territory of ukraine. everyone who is evacuated there on the territory of eu countries or other friendly countries . that is, these are all people who, first of all, really want to return to mariupol for any reason, who want real retribution, but the main thing is that they are the carriers of the ukrainian nation, it does not matter what ethnicity they are, what kind of games they are, and jews, and germans this ukrainians are also russians, although they are already russians and apparently no one identifies themselves by birth, that is, people do not have any disputes. what language, what culture, what kind of

education should be ? they did not bring it to the people, but it was the decision of the ukrainian nation of ukrainians who want to return and rebuild the ukrainian mariupol themselves. in mariupol, even in the 14th year, there was no such policy, which , unfortunately, was supported in some places by our state and politicians . and it is fighting there, it is very radicalized today. believe me , there has never been such a radical from the very identification and ukrainization inside, and the main question that arises and which is addressed to us

constantly is that let's talk with the government, let's let's do something. let's do something so that the consequences of the 14th year are never repeated. that is, everyone understands who brought the war to our house and that the quality also partly became a defense of what became possible . i just want to ask, it is somewhere around 100 or even more kilometers from mariupol to the front line, and you mentioned that there are 3,000 corps garrisons of the mariupol military at all times. that is, it is actually an occupation garrison, what are their functions? the garrison of mariupol directly, yes, it is 1,500 people and russians, we know that some of them are up to 500 people, it is all kinds of disarmament of the academy in this so-and- so, and everything else is the garrison that, in principle

, conditionally ensured the safety of mariupol. about whom and so on. we observed when the first phase of the kherson offensive took place, the garrison was generally reduced, currently we observe that it is growing, well, in mariupol, whether through the shell on the crimean bridge, it turned into a very large logistics transshipment base, and 3,000 is practically non-garrisoned mariupol these are the ones whose nitrogen they don't hear, then they stay for a few days in mariupol near mariupol. by the way, the training ground is the same ground that you used in your time . because of the fact that all the logistics chains of the military, in particular, yes , even fuel refuelers sneak through cities to russia and vice versa. this is precisely why such

unnatural activity of the military, in which we had not seen before and the functions of the garrison, well, yes, we we observe that after kharkiv they began to build a revision of the ukrainian fortifications that remained after all of them, they began to repair them, began to entrench themselves and began to really build a line of defense, this is not very pleasant news for us in principle, because it will complicate the occupation, of course, but we are watching and cooperating with our respective services, our military needs, what is being done, i think it will make it a little more difficult, but still, the issue of occupation will definitely be and it will definitely be much sooner than expected, the occupier still wants to be in mariupol to mobilize something up to 10,000 men there, how is the situation now? these men are staying in mariupol, or are they still

trying to avoid this mobilization of the russians? listened to what we said, believed in this russian propaganda, and in fact men almost cannot get out of mariupol. of course, in the territory of ukraine, it has long been complicated to send a letter through the basilisk due to the situation on the basilisk, and now even more so the letter is complicated and through russia on the border of ukraine with russia near novoazovsk, the queue is growing there, the waiting time was up to 8 hours as of today, so yesterday morning it was around 14-1 in the evening, we talked to our sources, they say that the waiting time there is increasing to 18 hours, but the situation is worse in another, there is actually a roadblock already there, very tight checks, which already from mariupol are starting to return the registration to the city, they say go home, wait for me and you to see if the military commander or military matron will contact you because at this checkpoint, in addition to the police, there

are guards, yes, the commandant and representatives of the military committee of the occupation corps are already present, therefore, in fact, the men of mariupol are already locked up in the city, and indeed, according to our information, the task for 10,000 mobilizations has long been received by the occupation administration, all ahead of that, all the chains there are ready ready for that, and well, in principle, we only need a team and 10,000 well, just for the sake of understanding, somewhere and through men, the russians can mobilize according to the speed there, not longer than there for a couple three days ago, as everyone knows, some live, some work. it will happen very quickly. that is, we understand that this dissatisfaction with the waves of mobilization in russia will subside a little and mobilization will begin in mariupol, and here are these men who, er, who do they want to mobilize, and they do not want me to mobilize them those who did not want to fight on the side of russia, but russian peace, in principle, did not interfere with them. they are

just men, just people, of course there is a part of the pro-russian population, not a large one. yes, what are the ratios? well, up to 10%, as in each category, it is the openly pro-russian category, all the others, the absolute majority - these are just people who know how it was before the war and when they said, "yes, i am not a politician, this is partly these people and people who believed in russian propaganda, partly people just went to check that they are at home to leave the windows uh there to take things away and in principle remained hostages in the russian federation to this day in mariupol there is also such a person, that is, in fact, people who hesitated, they did not about uh, this is not true, but people who did not listen, let's say to the ukrainian authorities, who how i said for a long time that you should not return to the occupied city, it can be a one-way road,

but today they unfortunately see that it really turned out to be a road not just one-way , but it may end with the fact that it is a road to the front, but lies to the front on which it was worth going yes from the side of ukraine and which treats completely differently to well, we all treat our soldiers differently to our heroes than the russians do to their mobilized well, what can they do to those people who are there they went to see what to do with their houses, how to insert windows you can understand because you somehow worked all your life and earned something, invested your soul, money, health, your life, well, you somehow planned your life, and then russia came and bombed everything. do you think maybe i will at least repair it and then leave? well, but, i don't understand if these people had already found the occupation and saw what the russian emir had done, what did they think or could they imagine that well, that is, how did they somehow safely dare to return to the city, which

is still under russian occupation, here somehow, well, complete disorientation after what happened well, we are among ourselves, we call it the mariupol syndrome , if it is the stockholm syndrome, it is something really strange in our centers, a lot of people have worked with it and are working with it psycho uh, we talked to them, they say it is true, well, you say psychological disorder in people because of what they experienced they don't even compare their life, let's say, with uh, well, for example, with january, yes, well, it's a disease before the war, they compare it with this hell that they experienced and with what they have now with uh the territory of ukraine has a lot of problems with housing. yes, we all understand that it's difficult, in fact, with e-e, they are squeezed by intimidation from the russian side because

it is constantly happening, people keep trying to maintain ties with mariupol, which means that they receive a large pile of pro-russian empire russian information from there and they are trying to find from themselves, they are trying to cling to some treasures from the past and that's why they return or that's why they don't leave - this is really a really big problem, we're trying everyone work with this as much as possible, but there is such a volume of people, such a number. well, not with everyone. unfortunately, you have time to talk, work, and it is called a hug, that is why there is such a category of people who return and who are hostages. i really can understand everyone on the one hand if you point to a specific a person, well, in general, this is the trend. well, it’s a little bit strange, in principle, you can imagine, because everyone says don’t come back. well, for our part , now, taking into account the mobilization, we are working and it is known that we will develop a separate mechanism and will

prove, try to prove people if a mariupol citizen ends up at the front from that side . first of all, it is very easy to surrender as a prisoner if these people suddenly end up there, who are even members of the resistance. yes, and we will work as they can fight for the benefit of ukraine. the occupying power can be and that is why the occupying power can gather a very large bunch of saboteurs inside through this mobilization. apparently, this is one of the reasons why this has not happened so far. by the way, thank you mr. peter, for these details about the life of mariupol and the everyday and psychological petro andryushchenko, adviser to the mayor of mariupol, was with us . those who are in the territories want to return

to the life that was before february 24, but as psychologists say, no matter how you are, how has this war on you affected your life, as it was before february 24, unfortunately, it will not happen with ukrainians. it must be accepted military expert director of the company defect express is already in contact with us for november and now mr. serhiy good morning i greet you first of all let's ask about kherson some satellite images show that it is actually possible to evacuate the russian military to the left bank course and under the guise of evacuating the civilian population, everything is really so possible that the withdrawal of troops has already begun, it is beginning to withdraw part of the troops, but given the pace and capabilities that russia has planned, we can say that this

the process can last somewhere until the middle of november. i think not earlier and in parallel. i think that the enemy will withdraw the child's more ageless units, and perhaps some of the newly mobilized ones will be transferred to the right bank in order to maintain the line of defense that is now in place. so at home it is such a process, what will happen to continue for a certain time, but according to our estimates, mid-november is the period that the russians need to move to the left bank, that is, mid- november, at the same time, it seems to be about uh, hmm, british intelligence said that it remains about 3 weeks, when the armed forces of ukraine can still demonstrate some serious successes in offensive actions. do you agree with this

assessment that in the future the frozen offensive actions will be slowed down to a certain extent ? in fact, it is really up to three weeks of a decisive period of validity, and we see that in fact the ukrainian army is currently conducting one regarding the destruction of enemy equipment and personnel with long-range means and not offensive actions on land, although in fact there is currently a period of such a complete information blockade on the ukrainian side, but we see from the side of foreign publications and analytical structures hints that right now the ukrainian side is taking measures to push back the enemy much faster than those plans about which i said earlier in mid-october. i think that it is actually possible to ensure such a panic retreat and then actually this defense on the right bank of the operative

will crumble because so far this defense has not it is pouring out because there is such a gradual withdrawal of both equipment and personnel, so we think that this is just in addition to the fact that these main parachute units that form the basis of this group on the right bank there are about 20 btg 10-12 thousand personnel of kharkiv oblast, as he said yesterday the deputy head of the operational department, general e.e. gromov, is there 45 kherson oblast and actually, the general said that this direction remains strategically important for the russian side from the point of view and in those expected, according to the plans of the russians, at one time, the plans of the offensive on mykolaiv, on, on odessa , the creation of an overland corridor, but we see that these plans are being destroyed and the retreat of the russian troops is taking place, and because of this, all these

conversations about the creation of some such e- a precedent of some such provocative precedent that will be able to distract the attention of the world community or the russian community itself from such another failure of the russian army but i repeat, war is too complicated to clearly assess and make forecasts for a certain period of time, yesterday's information from the general staff that the threat of an attack from belarus is increasing, said brigadier general oleksiy gromov, saying that the direction of the offensive to the west of the belarusian-ukrainian border may be changed, in fact, to cut off some logistical ways of delivering weapons to the front to the front line to the

south and to the east of ukraine, how should we evaluate it, it's a simple risk assessment, now there is no reason to say that this group has the ability to carry out the following, we are talking about what is there now there is a build-up of the russian group, in fact, this is exactly the transfer of the forces of the second motorcycle division of the first tank farm, which is actually the main backbone of this conditional russian group of the belarusian group. groups for recovery at the training grounds in belarus. at the same time, i am ready to admit that for two or three weeks there, the number of russian personnel is definitely more. i think that these figures are up to 9,000.

the russians will be transferred to the territory of belarus , but they will first of all be engaged in the restoration of their combat capability at the e russian training grounds because all the other training grounds are already filled with burns and now another call for the beginning of some offensive actions in the territory of belarus is already taking place in completely different conditions, we know that such a threat exists, we have prepared in terms of engineering those areas where an offensive is possible, where it is possible to actually pass, and the saying of balta remains an obstacle to the politics of it is quite difficult for the russian belarusian group to overcome, and such actions are only possible again in february next year, when there will be some kind of freezing of the ground and the possibility of moving equipment. but all the same, this is still

a long enough prospect. or belarusian troops to cut the supply line to lutsk or lviv region before that, and in fact it is, as i think, the process is also complicated and there was a report today by the institute for the study of war, which is correct admit that the system of logistical support from the nato countries in europe is wide enough, and actually these movements to the west are up to 30 km to the nearest road there, and it is unlikely that it will be so easy for the russian group, which, i repeat, does not yet have sufficient forces to carry out any repeating such breakthrough actions, it is also imposed on our countermeasures related to the engineering arrangement of possible lines of attack, and the presence of our forces and means that should protect against such a scenario of the development of events. and if they after all, they dared themselves, so what would be the effect of such an offensive obtained by the available forces, well, now we are

talking about the fact that the belarusian army has 10,000 personnel there, who must also be mobilized there, we will add 9,000 russians who have been transferred but who are not capable of combat. yes, several months of preparation, when the russians were advancing from the territory of belarus, there were 40 btg about 30 thousand hours through belarus, it was torn to shreds and then they were forced to flee , so that at home now the situation is fundamentally different. from the point of view of the ratio of the strength of means and new weapons in the composition of the ukrainian army, which will actually ensure the destruction of this group at the stage of deployment, it is very good, and then there is another one. then the question is if we allow this probable undermining of the kakhova hpp, there are very different estimates of what can happen how can the russians use it, who

would dare to do it? well, they mention again that they really like to repeat different scenarios and mention the zaporizhzhia hpp during the second world war, what is your opinion about what it is said, according to the current power, it is better to flood the left bank in the event of the detonation of this dam, if this is indeed done there, a significant number of russian forces are located there, the command of this group is located there, artillery is located there, which is shelling the right bank of the kherson region and in fact provides support for the russian troops on the right bank, an explosion there would spill water on the left bank, in fact, it creates threats directly to the russian grouping itself. therefore, so far, i am puzzled do not add up to a clear picture, why should they carry out such an er with er hmm provocative measure

because it actually does not hold back the advance of the ukrainian army but rather the complex actions of the russians themselves on the left bank, so let's expect probably more complex scenarios there connected with the fact that the embankment is being undermined, the water in the kakhov reservoir is flowing down there, and problems are beginning related to the functioning of the nuclear power plant, which needs to be cooled. the format of such scenario development becomes much more critical for the entire european community , then it is possible that this is just one of putin's restraining ways to influence the west if he does not use tactical nuclear weapons and try options for intimidating europe with such

scenarios in order to to force er europe to come to kyiv for the time being to start negotiations again or to slow down the process of the offensive zgurets, a military expert, the director of the defense express company was with us on this, our second hour ends marathon, and it is at this hour that we always remember with a minute of memory all those who lost their lives due to the offensive of russia, we honor with a minute of silence the memory of the ukrainian military and peaceful citizens of ukraine who died in the war that was unleashed by russia