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fear for fear, including before the war but there is one very small thing, but let's look at the balance of power of the legislative yuan in taiwan, the wine from which he advocates for taiwan to become an independent state, but let's look at the seed coalition , which has 40 e-e, if he recovers, eight seats all 113 there are the key 38 or 39 seats - this is the kuomintang party, which acts in line with the concept of the 92nd year of coexistence and gradual unification of the two countries at the beginning of the 20th congress of the communist party of the communist party of china, the communist party, namely the kuomintang from taiwan, that is why, from the point of view of the war, the aggressive rhetoric will continue , so they will talk about increasing the start of the confrontation, now clearly transfer the format of the confrontation between washington and beijing, but
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neither one nor the other side will start a big one i want more . why is it china when, after certain prize phenomena, the greens will most likely win the 25th election, lose the majority, respectively, and we will be more likely to fall for the coalition that once again advocates one country d-2 systems and china is enough, i.e. wait for 10-60 years to finish the process peacefully, simply political settlement, yes, i look at these uh, tybers . wave i would still like to join in china, having all this well, but this is already such an area, but the question is that taipei was created, among other parties, humidan, we can talk about babakhans, but we must take into account our place on the economic ours and taiwan under the starting conditions, so it is possible from a height
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we can evaluate our own achievements from a height, but from the point of view of economic policy, well , i apologize. you know, it seems to me that there are some supporters of the kuomintang in our verkhovna rada, because every time they try to create something or a group, for example, friendship with taiwan or to condemn, for example the politics of the judiciary is always this kind of invisible majority of the kuomintang in the ukrainian verkhovna rada. it begins to block everything. well, seriously, if the world is really moving towards a bipolar division and a new cold war is ahead of us, one way or another. in ukraine, it is necessary to decide today who it is with the liberal world, which today supports us, without which victory over the russian federation would be impossible. do we still want some kind of to be with the smart with the beautiful and somehow avoid wandering and be friends with china even after this war. what do you think,
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mr. bohdan? look, first of all, we have already decided that we are part of the liberal world and, in principle, our strategic partners are our western partners, but as far as foreign relations and diplomats are concerned, sometimes difficult situations arise. but on the other hand, at the same time, just yesterday there was news that we received humanitarian aid from china, there are tons of products there directly, that is, yes. and again, this means that china definitely exists and will remain the center has a serious influence on geopolitical relations , we are unlikely to be able to influence any
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processes that take place there, either in china or directly in the region, but on the other hand, the position and foreign policy must be really balanced unequivocally but again, this is not our vector , let's say it at this stage, to be a part of the auto- critical world there. that is, we are all equal and already a part, we gave everyone a fight for the autocrats directly, that we are part of the liberal democratic world, in addition to that. really forecast as much as possible in advance to work out various scenarios because there are many factors that affect the position of a particular country and sometimes not even publicly, but through diplomatic channels it is necessary to work out at least for, you know, a temporary period those things that are within the framework of our national interests should be ensured, but from the point of view of political orientation
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here, in fact, ukraine has already made a choice and does not have to turn around from the point of view of the future . they expected that russia would weaken in order to eventually invade its sphere of influence because it actively buys russian energy carriers, it actively trades with russia, and supplying not very logically complex goods, but china actually blocks the supply of the same same same microelectronics, you on the same semiconductors in any case, the world after the war. yes, it is most likely a bipolar world, but the question is whether it excludes a certain cooperation with the other pole if we are in the conditions of the western world. i don't think so, because even the values ​​of the question well, nothing prevents us from cooperating with turkey today, although it is very difficult to call turkey a democracy, agree
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. nothing prevents us from working with arab monarchies of absolutely monarchical influence, although they also cannot be called a pure democracy, or a part of the western world. one valuable question, who for us, there is a key partnership, we are building plans for development, and the second issue is to cooperate with someone in order to become more protected, more powerful, and to make it impossible including war and cooperation - this does not mean that either or it is possible with each other, it is just a question of who is the priority. about the fact that we can be somewhere there with china, even if it will be beneficial for us at some point in time. moreover, it is very easy to discover the situation after the war
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when, for example, some authorities, those others there, third, fourth, tenth, may be beneficial to cooperate with china. what, for example, is the imf zabobva for our reforms oh-oh-oh there we actually want to take a little photo of the elections, and here they don’t smell like chinese loans. well, it just seems to me that there is a good thing for the future for all of us. the level of cooperation is different because, i will remind you, recently we were ready to sell one of these enterprises to such chinese people at the time when we had a war, if the other side had not gotten involved, then who knows who would have been the owner and that's it, that is, it is very necessary to approach carefully to china has definitely made its choice, we have seen it. well, we have also made our choice. thank you very much to our interlocutors and we are now an international candidate of political sciences and
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arteshkevich an analyst at the ukrainian institute. igor eidman , let's talk with him. lesya kryuk and i speak german poorly, we just admit it, we taught it, but it was a long time ago, and so on, so we will speak in russian. hello, igor andriy cooper - this is a ukrainian writer and translator, he wrote such a post about the fact that in russia, which turns out to be abroad, now they do not want to say that they are from russia, that they are russians and most often introduce themselves as ukrainians, and this is so strange the moment when how would people who a-a introduce themselves to the topic of who was actually a colony er
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-e how humiliating it is for russians hostess igor well, i honestly say, i have not heard anything about it, in my opinion, here are some fantasies that russians present to ukrainians, i don’t know the first once i heard about it without fail, uh, russians who live here in germany, they are uh, that is, russian people. among them there are very many well, that is, there are quite a lot of such putinists and putin patriots, they have never actually come to russia, these are the people who came here, for example, to tell the state, some part of the russian germans tell as a matter of fact, there are many jews in germany, russian-speaking israeli republics, from russia, from
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ukraine. you said, “we are all mixed up here, and now, if they walk around berlin, and you hear russian speech, then in 90% of cases, or 80 refugees from ukraine , i am like that.” already my personal observation, i have lived here for a long time and the situation has changed a lot, much more russian became spoken in berlin after the refugees came from ukraine in large numbers. mr. sikorsky’s business and he has a test . how does she determine , uh, russian-speaking people - are they ukrainians or russians anyway? he approaches them, says glory to ukraine and waits for an answer . russians, who are um well , who are condemning the
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war in ukraine, which was unleashed by putin, who is supported by the majority of the population of russia? yes, you really are, by the way, in berlin there is a rather powerful party lesa общество россиянные в разное время из россии, which more actively supports ukraine, hold their actions regularly when the russian embassy, ​​when the chancellor is sitting, salt, yes, with the requirement to increase, increase aid to ukraine, er, introduce sanctions against additional agents, against the russian authorities, against er , russian машини венный предметод всего помогатья украине оружием и против проч so что если перелимымы задавать вопрос glory to ukraine but that many of my friends are not an isolated case, how about questions of total support for the putin
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regime and the war in russia, this is the result of the conviction that everyone in russia totally supports the putin regime and the war, this is the result of russian propaganda that actively tries to instill to all the europeans that russia is united around putin, what does it mean like sorex or opposition to russia? people are against the war, and this can be seen even from the official statistical statistics. but this official statistical statistics is dark to me, it still distorts reality. putin and the benefits of the war are used by putin and the benefits of the war. they just don't give the answers of the sociologist they say excuse us someday and leave or russian fascists yes putin patriots quilters away
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what is that name only they are happy to call they report that they will go to war for putin, respectively. with pleasure, more than 90% of people participate in polls and refuse to answer the questions of sociologists. this is like official statistics. so we need to be more careful with these figures, because we are therefore under putin's game and the kremlin 's characteristic in their dishonest needle, when they ask, presents itself as an expression of interests or in the parents of a teahouse . to become from the very beginning of the war we have many discussions, there is a discussion about who are such good russians, bad russians, how should we relate to this is it necessary to consolidate, as they
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say now, the abolition of russian culture, is it a taxi for ukrainian identity, do you understand that this is where you yourself этом you say that very often ukrainians who are looking for asylum in germany, for example, they are russian-speaking, this is also a big, big problem of ukraine, at least until this war. here's how you really think is this a war for identity, identity, identity, this is the war that is happening now, and is it possible for a ukrainian independent, strong state with a ukrainian identity, and on the other hand, an independent free democratic russia with its own money and identity, and will it be an identity? imperial type yes, i think that this war is about freedom for freedom and ukraine for the freedom of the whole
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world from uh -uh that gold, that threat the leadership that is represented by putin, his power, his regime, this is the war for freedom , that is why he dresses free countries in the usa, european countries, nato countries, that is, countries that are democracies and protect human rights, and in which in fact in public opinion is the main factor in the formation of state policy if the war was about national genetics and i will tell you the same europeans americans would not support ukraine because national childishness in europe is considered to be something since the 19th century, in general, the term is used here as if it is considered, well, in general, yes, of course, there is a right-wing party about putin's alternative, which is exactly what it is, with german
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national ethics . they are categorically against such formal formulas, well , it was agreed. so where do i say, they accept the struggle of ukrainians, exactly how they fight for freedom, their own freedom from imposition by the russians, this is putin’s empire, it is terrible, yes imposition of her own will, because today she is trying to impose this will on ukraine, and tomorrow she will try to impose it on other free democratic countries, and that is why such a consolidation of all the so-called people is good. libertarians of human rights around ukraine, well, we are somehow at the beginning of understanding that mr. putin is his entourage, including his voters, most likely somewhere from the 19th century, if not even earlier. on the one hand, i agree with you, on the other hand , this moment is also very important
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. it seems to me that we can not fight for any ethnicity . including for and identity according to the words i agree with putin - this is all of his psychology, all of his constructions that he periodically voices his crazy er-er things, yes, the 18th-19th century is the time of the spectacle and the conquest of crimea, as griboedov wrote in the beginning of the 19th century that is he thinks how such a terrible echo to a passionate orgasm, these imperial categories are good for him. the leader of the country is the one who ensures territorial growth, the history of the seizure of foreign territories is how people reasoned in the 17th-19th centuries. a leader who gives his people freedom, an opportunity for self-realization, economic well-being, and so
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on and so on, putin can’t give anything of this , so he goes into some kind of historical and he is trying to engage in historical reconstruction and to reconstruct some successes of the territorial conquests of the russian empire that were 100,200 years ago, but he will not succeed with them because time can be turned back, as they say in the song, an archaic army that will suffer and will suffer defeat from the ukrainian army from the ukrainian people that embraces the idea of ​​freedom from imperial aggression that is helped by all civilized free countries, therefore, this course for the 18th and 19th centuries is putin's, it is due to the end of catastrophes for russia, a new turmoil and russian times, putin likes it. so, historical comparison, it will be something like what happened in the 17th year of the 20th century, mrs. igor, in addition to that that we have been
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resisting for eight months with the second world army , we are defending our country. we have been waiting for eight months for the patience of russians against what putin is doing. eh mobilization for now this is a partial mobilization. we see a video where a woman is riding a bus somewhere in samora and reports that her son died. he was newly mobilized or whatever the mobs call them. who writes an address to putin, they say that we are not against our sons defending our country, but why did someone there organize this mobilization so
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unfairly? to happen that so that the russians became against putin, they said that enough is enough we can no longer tolerate more of this on the territory of their colonies , such as poland, for example, the first world war or the crimean war or the afghan war, they ended, eh , and the russian polish war, they ended with global upheavals within russia's revolutionary reforms, troubles ,
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etc. and today, the role of the population here is so important that at the beginning, as we say, the first world war, patriotic hysteria begins during the transition period, and so on and so on. losses, people are starting to read what is called a turnip, yes . and why do we need this war? why do we need it? in that case, during the first world war, constantinople was paralyzed, and in this case, melitopol is a beautiful city. why do you need russia ? they knew where melitopol or berdyansk or kherson is located - these are completely foreign cities to them, why do they need new ones and this knowledge will definitely come but it will come only together with new military defeats with new victims with new by the weight of this war the war has been going on for six months and about the fact that somewhere within a year within a year russia
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will lose this war and the schism that is already being planned in the elites and in society will only intensify and end, as i have already said, in the collapse of this regime и новый русский смоты и i'm almost sure that this uh-uh event is not far off, it 's only been a month. well, i once asked dmitriy dmitriy bykov and dmitriy bykov if it's possible that uh-uh this will happen someday то время что russians will live and think for themselves the problems of their country and for them there will be no such thing as here are the ukrainians with whom we sang songs and ate dumplings er er borscht will be itself by the way, i don’t know the names of all our people’s deputies there, by the way, i don’t know much about the
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deputies . write somewhere on the scoreboard that lutsenko is driving i met someone there, and everyone knew who he was talking about. yes, if you wrote to someone in russian, you would have to explain why he was writing about it in the first place . е какей-то друню какуе-то какуе -то деревянски такой классик живой дос -с-мере такой eh-eh counter eh-eh underground is not literature, let it be so in ukrainian, he somehow formulated that our idea is to isolate ourselves from us , is it possible this is what a russian will not do because dmitry bykov said that we always have будет делать да украинцев всегда i don't know bykov, what kind of humanitarian is he, a writer and
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a philologist, probably unfamiliar with the results of sociological questions, and i have been engaged in this for many years, and of course i constantly monitor the situation with the public opinion of the reality of russians, i have no personal business with ukraine it wasn't artificial, because the agitation around ukraine was artificially created by russian propaganda, massive russian propaganda was created around 2014, yes, in 2013-2014, that is, before ivan during the ukrainian revolution revolution of dignity, there was still the same wave of propaganda during the previous revolution, yes, when, uh, the first time, when yanukovych illegally tried to run for office, the first time, this one, too, was pumped up by propaganda to russians in general , as well as to a bunch of people in the world, 70 percent of them, yes, russians they are focused exclusively and completely on us, their personal social household problems, material well-being, 16 health
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, children's education, apartment questions, who cares very much, this can be seen in all questions which were so that the russians suddenly started scratching their heads and shouting that here the ukrainians are coming and leaving, and they are pumping up television propaganda 24 hours a day, if it were not for this, all of this would also be completely interesting. now, why is this being done? in order to create an image of the enemy and move the interest and negative emotions of russians from their own enemies, who are, by and large, the people who sit in the kremlin, their swindlers, to transfer corruption from the kremlin's corrupt officers. here is aggression, yes, on a false goal, in this case, on ukraine and a ukrainian, and they are brilliant
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. now he doesn't care about everything, they don't think about corruption, they don't hear about corruption , they don't hear the creator, they are all ends focused on the war, all this is by the way. not putin's propaganda, i was there in the night of all authoritarian dictators yes, in their personal inventions , even at the time when the russo-japanese war began, they said that we needed a small captaincy war to distract the population from their own problems. here they are. putin tried to do something similar in ukraine, but as a result, the same as nikolai ii in svoe vremya got not a small victory but a big one and uh lost lost in the perspective of the war that he inevitably regrets the regime as the fatherland thank you ihor edman russian sociologist i am a positioner now he is in he lives in germany and was in touch with us. we hope that we will be there at the time when the russians will get over their problems and forget about us. well, now
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we are moving to belarus. serhiy vysotsky , a belarusian opposition figure, is in touch with us, mr. we welcome you to our airwaves. we welcome you , dear ukrainians. we have been talking all the time for the last few days about how realistic it is that belarus can unleash another front . you can say a couple of words, here are the previous ones statement well, you understand the russian colleague, he says that this is only the dismantling of the kremlin propaganda, the rest of the propaganda means that's why only this is happening only because of the connection, and that's the reason. well, the russian troops are singing and the russian soldiers are fighting,
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and the belarusians are, as it were, 90%. and yes , now there will still be categorically the co-protector of the war, categorically, and the army against this house may be lukashenko, and there is no information war everywhere. here, but it’s a touchstone . it means that it was uh, first of all, it was lukash himself, and uh, you know, it's emotional, in short, more about
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poroshenko and putin, expensive moments - this is a train of properties, lukashenko planned the conversation like this. well, then 500 people asked themselves fantastic nuances and sent them home the trusted entourage there propagandists are playing there because there is no one left, the loved ones were asleep and only then will the story of abkhazia appear detective-like when
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the ministry of related affairs accepts all compensators of belarus in the morning and it went to bed god, they didn’t show the video, you understand, and then you’ve already seen both of them in such a form, that’s how to say it, even to formulate it . well, many people also say that you need help when poroshenko came back. it ’s as if she forewarned, uh, uh, come, that they put him here this was such a person. here, now, now

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