it's detective work when the ministry of related affairs accepts all compensators of belarus in the morning and it went to bars, but they show the video, you understand, and then you already see such a form , that's it. quite correctly, it can

be a signal. well, i’m saving myself for the next one, that is, it’s visible in him that he has some er, let’s say a portion of something from putin. he has to react to it somehow and then reassure the belarusians that it’s not so bad. thank you, mr. serhiy . the president said to us alone. thank you, god , we hope that we will be able to pass between the drops. well, the belarusians themselves, no matter what they are told there, they will not want to and will not take weapons and will not go with these weapons against the ukrainians. this was serhiy vysotsky, a belarusian oppositionist . we remind the actor what's going on marto nayspresso work in this studio for you stay with us further we still have a number of

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will this country exist or not, this is also a big question. it is open. we hope that this answer will satisfy you. if not, then write some of your questions in the chat. i will track well, in the meantime, i will introduce our next guest, mykhailo kolisnyk, professor of the kyiv school of economics and the president of club ukraine . today we have a two - way game, some kind of ping pong. we have a good connection, and the guests can't hear well. we can hear you very well and we see you say that you have problems. is today's attacks as a result of air alarms announced for such a long time, they say that

their scale even exceeds what happened on october 10.12, eh, respectively, how quickly can we recover, i mean the country after these attacks, you understand here, you can look from two points of view, how we can fully restore the energy supply system in our country , but this will take quite a long time. and for how long can we temporarily keep it in the working capacity system, here it is. as they say, i bow my head in front of all energy services, both private and state companies, which are doing everything possible to ensure that we are not left without communication, without light, without electricity. well, without this production in general, recently, sometime yesterday or the day before yesterday, i heard such an opinion, it seems or from a dream - it will not happen now it is even possible to remind, one of the deputies simply said, simply said, the deputies will ask almost

differently, they speak almost differently. is there a possibility or does it make sense, for example, understanding that we will have attacks, it is obvious that in the colder season and during the winter, do already now there are some strategic reserves there, i don’t know the substations, somehow they should be reduced, what they have been doing, for example, since the beginning of the war, the ukrainian armed forces have come to the point that we are mobile. energy, for example, students in the first year, the first thing they study is the peculiarity of energy is the impossibility of making reserves of electricity. now, of course, i mean some modules that can easily replace damaged ones, for example there are some substations and so on and so on , you know, look at one question. when we have, for example, statistics of which modules fail

in accordance with normal operation, then we can calculate the optimal stock values ​​and even make an economic justification. what funds it is worth spending to keep such a module , when a gift flies in quotes from our northern neighbor, the aggressor, then what will fail. we cannot actually predict that it could be the whole station, moreover, people die at the same time qualified specialists in this case and in general, in such a case, to calculate and keep a general set as they say, well, it is not represented at the current moment of time, maybe these are events that are called in risk management black swan, so it is mostly impossible to insure against a black swan, well, think about it a few years ago who could have imagined that there would be a full-scale war in the xxi century? well,

such attacks are good. like today. repeat them there, i don’t know once a week or two until the end of winter, will ukraine’s energy system withstand such a development, or will we still be able to survive this winter and recover quickly, it will be very difficult. the test for our energy system can make us happy. the situation is that they cannot do it alone shelling, but it is many times stronger than those that have already happened, there is enough of a simultaneous output, it would actually be an even worse result. and yes, well, in fact , we must beware of a long repetition of such events. but i hope we will act, we must lead well, and in addition, let's hope that some temporary man-made solutions

will also be proposed by our allies, which companies will suffer the most as a result of these uh, these attacks on the energy system, good question. i raised the numbers a little here, just to see who consumes how much electricity, unfortunately cannot operate, for example, to the numbers of a month ago, are they fresh enough because now everything changes almost every day and even in september, for example, our factors of energy management declared about the fact that we have a surplus of electricity that is produced at this moment in time, but it turns out that the population consumed approximately 1/32.5% of the electricity produced in the last year. industry industry consumed 40%, respectively, transport about five percent, agriculture about three

percent, communal household enterprises about 11%. but all of them will be proportionally affected, in fact, since industry consumed the most 40%, then already now on consumption of electricity in this branch of the government, certain measures are being introduced, again, if we take from the industry, it is interesting that the food industry consumed three and two-tenths of percent of the electricity, mechanical engineering 3%, the metallurgical industry consumed a lot, we consumed about 22%, but a large part of the metallurgical industry in general, it has been brought to order in the south and east of ukraine, and these industries will actually suffer very much, but the consequences i am most afraid of myself to feel small and medium-sized business, it does not have

much to protect itself and if it does not work, fixed expenses very often remain the jobs of people and the opportunity for us to live comfortably in the infrastructure of that can be, uh, in recent days in social networks such a struggle for who saves more, who more who consumes without uh, irresponsible uh, there even appeared a map of ukraine, who how consumes electricity, right away they started complaining about uh, photos, uh, they started looking for who didn't turn off the sign in the evening after working hours, see responsible and economical attitude to electricity should be in general and if i am honest, i would give the position of those business representatives who would say yes, i have nothing to turn off anymore, i save electricity and in good times and in good times, the

owner says the military at the moment that is, i am an optimal consumer, i do not consume electricity and consume it rationally. now a little , for example. in general, in business, if you take shops , cafes and offices, electricity consumption fell. well, why is it hot in the summer? they consumed split systems we have electricity now temporarily, it is a little quieter period, then it will be winter when it will be necessary to heat it all, and in fact there will be a lot of it, and in general, i must also note that the issue may not be so in the saving of electricity, especially in the ostentatious saving, which is made out with photos somewhere on facebook or in on social networks the question is that in order to be a rational consumer, it is clearly enough to follow the schedule according to which you are recommended to turn on high-energy devices that consume a lot of electricity and actually not

to create energy consumption peaks that require additional balancing of energy capacities at critical moments that produced much more electricity than we needed, and even from august we were exporters of electricity to romania and poland. we can find in ourselves as our place in the world division of labor now the truth is that we have to temporarily stop talking about it or simply decide to estimate 35 whole two-tenths percent of this population it also consumed 32.5, i'm sorry, yes, but now people are saying that in these peak hours there should not be loads, accordingly, do not use any electrical appliances there, if you

explain in your own words, it's because we don't know how to store well yet electricity well, as elon musk says that he can build there large stations with e-e batteries that can, strictly speaking, be balancing capacities. people consume more electricity, more sources that generate this energy should be turned on at the moment when they consume less energy, some of them that can be stopped can be stopped . in the summer, but in fact wind electricity is also either there or not. so, it is a great science and art, so at the level of the entire state, to balance the situation so that when the most electricity is needed

there were three capacities ready to put them in. well, now russia has deprived us of parts of these, mr. mykhailo, for the future, the question is for the future, more precisely if you imagine again the situation that this war will end in what way - in what way, and but this is the way of our victory well, of course i definitely definitely i mean that it can end, let's say russia will disappear, russia will give up its plans and so on, and having this aggressive neighbor who may seek or almost certainly seek revenge for such a development of events, yes, and we will to understand what is possible here tomorrow in a month in a year in 10 years there may be some kind of aggravation ballistic cruise missiles may fly again in our country what exactly will be the recommendations for the construction and development of the energy industry there maybe

we need there i don't know start more wind turbines more some small autonomous stations, again , this is the moment, or vice versa, to start more nuclear power plants and when to open the ppo well, you see now, if we take last year, about 55% of our electricity was generated by nuclear power plants energy this is again the military data in this case, the text that is currently under attack was 29%, and what we know as renewable energy, wind energy, solar energy, it was about 8%. i think that in the future we will simply follow the world trends in electricity generation, it will be a single system, since we have already become ukraine part of this single european energy system, it will still be a priority for the

newest energy sources, maybe even something else . ukraine as a country that has such an aggressive neighbor well, to be a car actually to keep some er let's say reserve power both at the individual and corporate level, that is, people will call it more generators , in fact, there may be a larger number of small stations, including solar and wind in this situation and at the state level to be well, as they say , the concept of the energy security of our country has been implemented. well, sometimes we learn from our own mistakes or from the fact that our enemies force us to move somehow mistakes, you know, just like protecting yourself from a meteorite, yes, we are already acting on the situation. but nevertheless,

we do not ignore those calls regarding the conscious consumption of electricity. thank you , mr. mykhailo, for the conversation. thank you for the advice. mykhailo kolisnyk, professor of the kyiv school of economics, president of the si-fu club ukraine was with us . reforms, well, now the urgent thing is, how can we not overload the electrical systems and remember to listen? well, if you need to iron, boil water, turn on the washing machine at the same time, and there's something else. well, maybe we'll just dilute it in time and everything will become

your life er and then we will talk about er again life forces us to do something these circumstances in which we find ourselves also force us to move somehow and here is ukraine tactical equipment and body armor sevarionam dangadze, he is in touch with us , er, severion is correct, i did not confuse anything with the name, i pronounce it well, thank you, yes. good day, mr. mr. svirion, actually, how did you get to that, er, good day, dear, good day, studio er, first of all, war when they started buying vests from me and they just gave them to everyone who needed them, because there were no vests at all, and

the first batch we bought was expensive but good, then, uh, all the following ones were well, just worse, er, worse quality i'm simple clarification, we are talking about the 14th year, yes, no, i said that about 24 years ago, at the very moment, because it started very quickly people, we needed a large number of vests, but they were simply not available, so we bought them and gave them as gifts. we were the first to buy somewhere, well, it doesn’t matter, somewhere around 300 vests. and each batch was worse and worse, and we started making them ourselves. we went to an office in the center of kyiv, which was free at that time, no one was

working and we delivered 10 heavy machines for for sewing vests. here's the first one. i'll put it on myself. next, i put it on the people next to me and just listened to the recommendations and made a better one. well, on our mind, on our mind, and then they made a big one and a big one. the company is correct, these are actually those bulletproof vests, yes, yes, i’m sorry, i don’t see it, but if our editor says that this is a video of yours, we believe her, so tell me, what do you mean, put it on yourself so that it fits well or so that the degree of protection is actually here this one was saved i was with from the first day

on the second day, there was a territory on the defense and well, there they wore vests in the morning until the evening and er well, so that he was, that he was comfortable, it was possible to sit quickly, you could quickly, you could fall, then rise , we bought wherever we could, but then we found the sixth floor of the e-e class , ceramic plates, we liked them, they were also transformed several times, and before the transformation to a very good plate carrier made of the original cordura fabric, american fabric e-e, with 2m reset systems - this italian system reset, which is used in israeli and

american vests, uh, plates. we started to buy ceramics and collect them ourselves, uh, well, collect these plates, each batch goes through certification and protocols, shooting protocols , all of this, all of this work, we certified, we received permits of the ministry of internal affairs for the production of body armor , our body armor is certified as a body armor of the 6th class, and not only as you know, a plate separately, a plate carrier, or a plate carrier. well, we have a certified body armor, and then and then we they started producing helmets because there was also a long queue for helmets and it was very, very, very difficult to import them and they did the production themselves in a

month, we did the press, the electricity, the automation ourselves, and now we can produce 3,000 helmets for a month, panzer, by the way, i had to wear a fourth-class protection body armor, i can say that it was heavy, that is, there is no such thing, as if i put on a t-shirt or i don’t know what and went for a walk, and here is the sixth level of protection, where is it, or is it always here, i know that there is a balance between mobility and security or security, how do you manage to combine it, well, look here, the secret is all in the plates. yes, because the metal plates of the fourth class, the vest, together with the plates of the fourth class, weighs from 10 to this only kilograms, but they earned the sixth class due to the fact that it has ceramic plates weighs

7.5 kg wow, it's cool and how much it doesn't take bullets as they sing in the song, it withstands it withstands three bullets fired from svd 7.62 wow, it's already the highest, how can you say it above well, there is no protection, it's an internationally recognized tool how important are they at the front to have bulletproof vests , because we see these so-called bullies partially mobilized, they complain that they are being sent without body armor, as the mother of one of those bullies said with a meat grinder, or they say that you will be there in battle or they are given body armor, which is as far as i'm concerned, because it's some kind of fake, but i understand that it's real , that there's just a can that bends with the hands

inside in the growth of them, i want to see it. i think that why did we live at all, you don't are needed and they they they use it only to throw away the plate and put a stolen laptop in it we saw it the other day and so on and so on yes but but for our soldiers eh i am sure that vests are needed vests are needed light because eh you know there is such an international eh -e international mm well, i read somewhere that er, in an adult man , his health has increased, he can carry 10 kg on his shoulders no no no no three hours a day a and they don't wear them from morning to evening that is the vest should be light, er, two protections, well, i think that the better

the more the better, we also use side protection, this is also very important, and you know, there are not many, even american ones. well, many soldiers take off american vests. well, for example, companies like 511 put on our bo-es in 5-11. you can't equip it with side protection because the camera bank is not er sorry, i'll even say it in russian excuse me please count you say that even the american military takes our er your your armored vests here the audience tells us that it's good there's another word for vest armored vest

in polish, by the way, their bullet-proof vest is called a bullet-proof vest. actually, is there any interest from abroad in these bullet-proof vests of yours, which you started sewing not so long ago ? well, we were at an international exhibition, this exhibition is one of the three largest in the world we visited poland and we exhibited our products . they were interested. right, because there is a war going on in our country. and we will sell vests abroad by law