a laptop e.e. a generator and access to a mobile or internet connection can work for itself in its place during the day there, for example, if it is not blacked out, the stations will work, so it will yes, because when the lights were turned off in lviv, for example, it did not work at all for me mobile communication yes, well, it's like that in different devices. thank you, before the covid academy, we had no idea how to work remotely, thanks to this pandemic, we wanted to work as a doctor. and it helped us a lot during the war, by the way, before the war, we didn't understand how we will we work during hostilities or during hostilities, but i will tell you that for example , the head of a private lyceum has a wife, so he worked not a single day without stopping

for remote work. i was sitting in a bulb storehouse, the main thing is to have the internet. if a person adapts to this, our people are smart enough. i think they will adapt to such options, although it will not be easy , it will be difficult, but i do not think that there will be any, well, such energy armageddon such an hiv shutdown they will be thank you mr. igor igor zhdanov candidate for political when the minister of youth and sports of ukraine was on the way we were on the phone because you can see that in kyiv now there are problems with the light too much too much unfortunately well the expected problem and we will be back literally in a few minutes and continue our conversation in general vietnamese balm star the first step in the treatment of colds a proven medicine and

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hijab revolution in iran, an accessible and interesting topic, how it can affect the domestic political situation in the country, why china helps iran and condemns the sanctions imposed by the european union and great britain against iran. well, there is also a good topic of sanctions against russian oligarchs and sanctions against artists who were citizens of ukraine but now support russia's war against ukraine, we will talk about all this in this hour and i suggest that we start after all with kamikaze drones, which are attacking our country the most at the moment, and what do you think, vitaliy, what can ukraine do or do we have any means of influence in this sense on iran, well , about the military part of history, we were already told about kryvonos. i think that politically we do not have any means of influencing iran, and moreover, i think that no one has any means to influence iran - this is

an excellent example of a state that has adapted to sanctions have shown that it is possible to live under sanctions and maintain power for ten years , that is why i am very surprised when now many people say that russia will change its policy in connection with western sanctions. the president of the united states, barack obama, once spoke about the cumulative effect of sanctions. i absolutely agree with in this opinion, the cumulative effect of the sanction always works, for example, when in the 70s the united states introduced the jackson broom amendment against the soviet union, which limited the possibility of supplying the soviet union used technological ones until the soviet union does not allow free migration from its country. by the way, it was only about citizens of jewish origin . of specific former soviet republics and

the soviet union is really incredibly technologically backward, technological backwardness creates the possibility of the decline of the state, the question arises in how many years 25-30 45 the more the soviet union had another big problem, it was the country with a planned economy, and iran, russia is a country with a market economy, so they always asked how effective is market authoritarianism, so market authoritarianism is so effective precisely because it gives people the opportunity to survive by themselves, even under any repressive regime, that is, the regime does not prevent them from surviving it does not give the opportunity to live, but to survive, please, when north korea allowed its citizens to trade in black markets, even when it leased public canteens to some party officials discovered that it can also exist, that is, the problem of the economy, it is absolutely

obvious that the market will create, i would say that i hear absolutely incredible things, and the problem of the communists was that they were afraid of the market, and now we have a rather interesting situation: market authoritarianism against market democracies, and market authoritarianism all the time he is afraid of the market democrats because he has another sailing that did not exist in the soviet union, he cannot fully control information and he understands that somewhere there is an end and that this end he came to the conclusion that market democracies need to be destroyed. communism did not come to this conclusion, at least according to stalin’s. did he control the information? did he think that he could completely peacefully coexist? iran or russia ? existential is not only a conflict between russia and ukraine, because the conflict between russia and ukraine is not just a conflict between a state that wants to regain its territory and do not return to russia belarusian conflict belarus is also, as it were

, an independent state, yes, but it is the authors, but it is not part of the territory of russia, the russians can be said that it is our part, but it is an authoritarian state, it is a state that agrees that we and russia will fight against civilized education. as you can see, russia is very interested in that that annexing it to itself does not show, and ukraine has a different history, this is not just a conflict with the former soviet republic, which should become part of russia, this is a conflict with the former soviet republic, which does not want to be a part of the empire of the imperial view of the world of the democratic european, yes, this should not be canceled, it is also a huge goal, and in this sense, in this sense, we can immediately say that iran has proven that it is possible to exist under sanctions, russia also has to mean that it is possible to stop this, there is only one recipe , unfortunately, it is the overthrow of the regime in the morning, they have already

experimented many times, let's have a moderate regime, there were presidents who tried to somehow make this islamic radicalism by convention, because i believe that it is generally just a dictatorship that covers itself with religion, well, with a human face. well, then everything ended, this is what has ended now, that now in iran, the radical regime is shepherding this special police, their guard corps, the slam revolution council, and this regime understands putin with all its heart. that this is the union of the guard cargo corps of the soviet revolution, the islamic revolution, how many people absolutely understand each other and they are destroying people now , just as in the 79th year, i was already destroying them smoothly i want to move on to the hijab revolution. right now, this is the topic of big, huge, direct mass protests, but vitaliy, but it’s not just about the hijab itself - it’s about freedom - it’s about

rights and, by the way, not only women, because the phenomenon of this revolution is that men supported women, well , you understand that as long as this regime exists , it still creates a certain illusion of choice for people , by the way, a big problem is that it distinguishes iran and russia from china, china, there are no elections, there are elections in the eu for the congress of the communist party, that is, it is like in the soviet union is the union, and in iran or in russia , elections are allegedly taking place all the time, so people have an illusion , by the way, in 2020, she played a bad joke with belarus that people decide something, and here the question always arises whether people can really prove that they are they meeting with pravda, or were they just part of the scenery, or is there really a power apparatus, and in this sense we are of course with

you we must do everything possible to realize that this is such a real struggle between people who believe in their capabilities and the power apparatuses that have to prove one's capabilities to the authorities, because why does it exist, is it maintained, receives huge amounts of money, then we need not just iran, well, the iranian government to be destroyed and somehow reformatted and the rank of a more democratic state and china, but we cannot do this, only the peoples of iran, russia and china has nothing to do with it. the russians think that it is possible to change something in some country through external intervention. this is not true. the russians came up with various conspiracy theories that scared putin for the rest of his life that the arab spring was organized by the us state department and the us state department sat and looked at what was

happening in the arab age. countries, of course, people can overthrow a dictator, but this absolutely does not mean that they can create democratic states in egypt , it all ended because the army returned to power after a short period during which it they expected when they went to the revolution in the left, it ended with the fact that there is no state there, it turned out that the entire state in the left was based on the authority of the dictator. and by the way, everyone says oh, how did this happen, libya will catch fire, what a horror, but the question is that before the appearance of eh in eh tripoli of the royal

regime and then we live for you, the dafi brand is the only one of the lviv state, there were also several territories that the colonizers united into a common state, as soon as it turned out that it was holding on, it fell apart and they are now looking for ways - they need to reformat the state, but they don't have any turkey or the united states, you don't want to, you know, be citizens of the left, for sure you like it, we like it, we want them so much, it can't be like that, and here the iranians have to prove that they are capable of resisting the regime themselves if they they will prove it, there will be another cancer, they will not prove iran, they will not prove it, it will soon remain a tyranny and i will supply weapons to russia. end the revolution. it can end. if you want to consolidate the regime, because the regime has existed for 33 years. well, i have to say that a lot of people

are interested in such a regime, you understand , and these people are absolutely not ready to voluntarily give up their role in this pyramid of the regime. will apply to russia to no less extent, russia over all these years, you see, has become a police state in the literal sense of the word, it is a caste state in which the main role is played by bandits, well , you can call them, they are also connected with business there they can be businessmen playing uh-uh-uh, police officers of the fsb special services and so on and the army, law enforcement agencies and those who are close to them who use them as security or as tools for obtaining money well, of course, the state apparatus and then the question arises how many such people a million when you know that you wear a uniform and you can

do anything you want, you are practically the master of the countries, but also your wife and your children, and you are proud of that in the socialist world in which russia existed in 1991, the imaginary master of the country was a worker he could be proud of it, but it was a comedy because he was a nobody in this country. oh, there was a desk clerk, it turned out later that there weren't so many of these pairs of devices. and then more of them wanted to become businessmen, not officials, and there are really many of these people. they live better than theirs compatriots and they can afford more than their compatriots and they give up certain i would say opportunities to live like this, but you know that the employees of the russian security forces and until 2022 and until 2014 could not go abroad in they didn't have such a right to such opportunities. they have never been abroad. well, let's say you know you, the exam for work. you will receive a good salary, but i'm sorry, vacation

in sochi in russia, well, that's strange. and in the xxi century, i limit myself in real life i met tens of hundreds of such people who didn't even understand why it's bad, well, there are some logical fools , some in turkey, egypt is here for us and in crimea. it's good that we're there because it's krym. why are we here? now we'll rest, it's consciousness, it's consciousness millions people. they will defend themselves, unlike those people who can go out on the streets in russia. they will have weapons. they will kill these people. i don't know how much these people will be willing to go under these weapons. in belarus, you saw that there hundreds of thousands of people wanted to fight the regime but the security forces showed no , i'm sorry. this is our country, not yours, and i think that exactly the same thing is happening in iran, this is the country of the islamic revolution guards corps, one time of the iranian army, this is two. in 1979,

the iranian army essentially betrayed the prospects for the development of its own country, if the army opposed the revolution, woe betide me. i am not saying, not even just a revolution against the mullahs in general, if it entered the mosque and stopped this whole process, you could have just reformatted the regime, it has already taken place, the last step appointed the prime minister of ukraine the chess reformer was gunpowder, then, by the way, representatives of the soviet special services killed the army, you just had to say no, we don’t want to, but the army wanted to because it believed that this new regime would give it the opportunity to not just sit in the barracks to earn money and attack, because then the war with cancer began. she decided that her time had come, and indeed the time has come. she became the master of the country, but the country itself. she turned into an unknown, what is the answer to that? i think that they will defend themselves and the russian army with the fsb will

defend themselves from the people, when i said that to start the war, give interviews to moscow radio stations, i said that you and i will live to see how the russian army will bombard russian cities like the spanish army once did. barcelona and madrid, we are surprised by this. this is what we say when we come to spain, which did not participate in the second world war, and suddenly we learn about the bombing of madrid, the storming of barcelona , ​​about the destruction of a miner, who did it and who did it, the spanish military themselves did it, and i think that and russian cities that will have to die under the bombing of their own military and iranian, and by the way, who bombed their own government and its allies for a month and a half. i think that will be the case and who will win in this war. i don't know, but it's a long process. i'm all time i say that we should not count on him. vitaliy, i want to talk about the role of china , and first of all, china condemned and supported iran by condemning the sanctions against iran that were introduced by the

european union and great britain separately for the supply of kamikaze drones to the russian federation of those drones who are now killing ukrainians and p vitaly , on the one hand, this is supposedly the expected solution because china constantly helps iran and condemns sanctions against iran, on the other hand, now china is supposedly trying to be neutral and say about the need for negotiations between ukraine and russia only in the fantasies of some of our politicians and experts there or people who have some business interests in china. china is absolutely interested, like iran, in russia winning this war, and winning seriously. and when we say that sitze-inping during meeting in samarkand, vladimir putin told putin that he should end the war, i am absolutely sure that he said that, i was not at their meeting, but i have no doubt about it, he meant it, he did not mean surrender, he meant yes, yes, surrender

that you have to speed up their surrender because we have economic problems here and china's economic problems will only intensify and i have to say that this is a rather serious problem related to the future development of the situation in china itself. but why does china need to russia won because, in principle , russia's victory opens the way for china to a military solution to the taiwan problem, at least it can be considered so, and russia's defeat closes this possibility. of the central committee of the communist party, for him this is a moment of truth because until now no officials have been elected to the third term

of the general secret party, this is a huge event from the point of view of what, angelica, you understand why in principle it was for two terms because the founder of modern china is talking about him absolutely rightly believed that if there are no real elections, then one should at least try to limit the power of the first person to two terms, because when a person sits in office for 20 years, he turns into a monster, this is how we see this moment in uzbeks, all these people, they will be there somewhere in 10 years, a person begins to change his mind, a person stops hearing criticism, not even his own criticism , he stops wanting to read in a report something that does not correspond to his idea of ​​the world, decay begins in a democratic world, this does not happen , why angels merkel was so many years as chancellor , because you are open to open, say newspaper journalists and that. look at how many mistakes were made in the last period of the reign of

merkel's angels of strategic mistakes, this is also clearly in place of germans now we thought it might be worth a legislative act to see the length of time one person has been in the post of federal chancellor, it's just that the person is really there. well, he's an outstanding person. let him work somewhere for a few years and continue doing business. he can then return to politics, but this creates a certain vacuum even in a democratic world, not a democratic one. creates a disaster, whatever he wants salt of the earth, he wants to prove to his party comrades that they did it not in vain, because they will all still think why and why did this happen? comrade den, it is no longer a coincidence that this is all done, why did this person cross this red line, what does he want to achieve, many members of the central committee of the politburo and so on will think so, but if uh shizen pin returns taiwan to the control of the people's republic of china, that is, he will do whatever he wants do maus zadun what he couldn't do densiapin what he couldn't do hudintao what he couldn't

do no one then says everything well, of course the third term is justified, it is necessary to choose for the fourth, that is, he will go to a-bank through this is of course but to him the chinese need an opportunity for this, they don’t just find a bank, they are not russians, and they have such a bank that should er, er, be er, i would say yes, and he is now watching it carefully, but he understands that putin is alone against the civilized world, he needs to somehow help china, but i can't help him just to the face, because if secondary sanctions begin against chinese companies, well, i 'm sorry, this can accelerate the fall of the chinese economy even more, and the chinese economy will collapse even not in connection with some there these resounding actions because this very policy of zero tolerance to the coronavirus is already creating quite serious problems for china and the

possibility of social tensions. china is not exactly a communist country, but the reality is that now 20% of chinese youth are without jobs. in the soviet union, there were no unemployed people in the socialist there was actually no china either. there was some rural population that didn’t know what to do. well, it did everything for itself in the villages under the protection of comrades from the people’s witness army of china, and hey, it’s urban population and there are people, in such a large number of young people , they do not know what to do. imagine how many there are, what is 20% of youth for a country with a population of 1.5 billion, this is a traffic jam. ugh, and of course there will be many such problems. deep into the economic confrontation with the united states, but he is of course happy when at least someone can help in the russian federation, here iran is supplying drones, which means it creates opportunities for putin to fight for the surrender of ukraine,

mmm, that is, this is a problem that should be solved like this or not otherwise for him, and when there is a rank, he falls under sanctions. of course, the chinese do not like it, in any case, these countries are in solidarity with each other, russia, china, iran, north korea are gray, belarus is the axis of evil. such a world, but china is not the first year to be a part of such a world. it has been a part of such a world since the time when the communist army had judona defeated the kuomintang army through chiang kai-shek supporters. i would say not even democratic, i said national and non-communist development

the chinese were forced to evacuate to taiwan, this is the tragedy of the chinese people, we simply forgot all about it. because we see china through the lens of its economic success, how everything grows, how high-speed trains go, how people have turned into a consumer society, they can't , but that's all. exchanging money for rights, they still travel a lot, ours also pay attention to this, the chinese are always everywhere in european countries, somewhere in exotic countries. the thing that sometimes ukrainians cannot afford so often yes a lot i wouldn't say so i think that ukrainians can afford much more than the chinese the situation is quite simple for the chinese there are many if even one or two percent of the population travels even this you have to look at the statistics imagine how

many chinese are abroad in general but the vast majority of the population of china does not go anywhere because there are no opportunities for it, it is possible and there is a desire to travel people again how much will 1% of 1.5 billion new europeans europeans not because they are all left, and because there are enough of them so that even in small numbers, the japanese travel much more, the japanese travel much less. domestic tourism, from the point of view of the number of people, japanese people travel all over japan, it is just customary for them to travel with a japanese person with a camera, who takes pictures of the eiffel tower all the time there, just like he behaves in his native country, and they probably drink coffee japan and this curiosity about japan creates curiosity , the experience in china does not have such a tradition simply for this

simple reason that chinese society is different, although taiwan is a society like japan and the inhabitants of taiwan also travel much more than the inhabitants of mainland china, it must also be understood that and again if you will talk to the chinese who is in another country on political topics, you will see the same effect that when communicating with russians, the chinese do not want to talk about political topics, even a young person the chinese will ask you questions that he has encountered quite often. why do you start condemning us for tibet? why do you believe this propaganda? a person is basically in an open world. she sees different sources of information. she does not trust them. who even moves to some united states or european country can

live absolutely peacefully in the world of his own information, he can read i would say the classic bourgeois newspapers of south china morning post newspaper published in hongkong which looks better than some uh new york student or washington you see just a quality newspaper just perfect absolutely completely which professes the line of the communist party of china and when you read it every day it is written in good english by serious journalists according to analysis not like the russians do it bach translated everyone yes you are starting to think that it can be so it is no you ca n't you just left china and just opened a western newspaper in the western newspaper for the chinese everything is written the same, so it means it's propaganda. it's just what they do there, it's just there, these people do n't like us, and it's just objective information. by the way, we have an interesting video that's a bit trashy, like the communist party of china, when it supported the sit-in and

expelled its predecessor from the podium look, yes, we're just watching. well, this is one of the strangest scenes i've ever seen in my entire life. when i see a scene at party congresses when a person who lives lives who is next to the general secretary of the central committee the party is also a person. the friend who is bothering is the chairman of the standing committee - this is the chinese assembly of people's representatives, the chairman of the parliament and the person are being removed, and you can't even understand what is happening to this person, as you can see, no one