now, by the way, i am watching the video posted by all the technicians. it shows how it is claimed that this su-27 is shooting down the shaket 136 over odesa. yesterday , uh, four cruise missiles were also shot down, that is , not all of them flew during this attack, so i understand it absolutely, absolutely that's right, two rockets hit the corresponding object of the energy structure. unfortunately, these are the injured people, but they were three men at once. i was provided with appropriate medical care. they are now in our medical facilities, and they are feeling well. as normal as possible, of course after the injury. but i hope that in the near future they will return home and go to work and continue to work. the situation is really not easy. we had more than 10,000 e-e

citizens who were left without consent. emergency rescue teams and energy engineers promise to restore all this, although it is quite difficult to do, the enemy knows what he is doing, but on the other hand, our response is also such that we know how we will respond to the missiles, really not all flew in. thank god, four were destroyed. by the way , there were calibers, and we say that we are constantly withdrawing the black sea. those ships that have calibers. this group is changing water. it was shot down and they immediately go to the temporarily occupied crimea to replenish their ammunition. that is, this mechanism of winged death is working today, but it runs into the actions of our air defense forces. well, and the reaction of the population, you know, the more they hit, the stronger the words sound, and to god's ears. well, in general, the mood is not good.

there could be no panic, although we understand that the information garden is trying to create this, and look how bad it will be for you. well, it will be 100% worse for you. well, this is the understanding. well, you are talking about the storefront and also the problems with the electricity supply with the electricity, uh, hmm, how are the people of odessa preparing for a difficult winter now, are they burying any generators, or are there also from the authorities? maybe i can help with that. some heating points or something steps for this year's heating so they will be developed scheme where these points opened here are located er let's say this algorithm was developed not today not yesterday as for the generators, of course if we rushed to buy them today, we would have stayed well, sorry, more dances yes, uh, we prepared everything, we understood that the enemy would be

this terror tactic specifically against the energy sector appropriate works are being carried out to apply objects, and with regard to sheltering such objects, of course , a rocket is a huge threat, but we understand this perfectly, nevertheless, these works have already been carried out and you know, there are no limits to self-improvement when we talked about our defense system that it is self-improving literally every day, we say the same thing about the energy front and what kind of experience is certain also appears, we calculate accordingly . we were so happy, we were glad that people heard us and we informed ukrenergo on the eve of this that what was put in place by one of the regions was not able to achieve a reduction of the energy supply, the level became less

thanks to the action of the population and the enterprise, you see well , today, this is the situation, there is an algorithm of actions, there are attractions, people are advising each other what to do. there are volunteers who help and this issue was raised not today not yesterday and they didn’t even work, i see that the famous seventh kilometer market is now just uh people are attacking and buying up all kinds of possible uh heaters that will play gas burners and in general how does this market work during the war, did its work change in any way? well, of course, it could not , the situation did not happen in all our markets, look for me, these are markers, it is possible, the privoz market, it is more of a brand for me personally, but the fact

that the seventh works is also not bad because it's taxes , it's replenishing the budget, and there are people. actually, yesterday i heard on the street that people bought a warm jacket. well, maybe they didn't have time earlier. the situation is quite difficult in terms of salaries. we also understand this perfectly. although all social payments are described well, it just happens for hours and hours, uh, i looked, but actually i’ll reveal it’s not a secret , of course i went to the import to see how the most important thing is to listen to people, what they’re talking about, you know, i won’t see it. the most important thing is that someone walks there and cries, of course, the prices weren’t like that before the war, that’s understandable but hmm, the mood of the people is the most important thing, you know, and making imports, as they say, remains a tradition here in odessa even during the war, people smile, people get to know each other, talk and ask when we will finish this beautiful thing, they say about that or maybe we should go to the negotiations negotiations

they can only be on our terms, well, on the terms of the natural market, uh, well, the privoz market is also famous and famous for some of its jokes , which are jokes that were born already during the war, this is what helps us not to let go of our hands and somehow hold on, uh, regardless of for what come, you know , maybe a special book will have to be published about what people say, you can say which ones should be named. about other things, you know that the most important thing is not the heat, and the main feature of odessa today is a smile, how strange it is, people are smiling, they are telling a lonely joke, and they are following what is happening in the moscow swamps, they are also happy

about it. sausages by this m-m mobilized chumbik uh all of odessa laughed and said for some reason there is no sausage come and bring you a present only don't touch us anymore but it sounded a little different in other words, it is repeated let's not talk about the stick, especially about the sausage. well, our sausage is much tastier. well, you won't remember the joke. but i think that if you suddenly remember, write to yourself in social networks on facebook. well, we will keep an eye on whether there is any new odessa humor or has appeared some new odesa humor about kateryna well, the petition has already gathered all the votes, they are already telling her what's up with pope kateryna, bye, uh, well, i think that uh, the issue will be resolved in the near future, what can be, let's say, tools for delaying this uh, historical time i think that

everything has already been tried, the opinion of the odessans has been revealed, it has manifested itself, so again the ball is in the hands of the polish council, that is, there are no problems in order to make the appropriate decision, you know, there are all kinds of players who tell you that the company can remove the wound from the mundians and give this place to ukrainians well, this football is political, all the more so. everything will be fine. i'm sure the pedestal can be left. we read the historian e. odeska and it turns out that karl marx also stood there, and the head of karl marx stood separately, and who will i say more? such data. i also talked with historians that during the first days of the occupation there was even a bust of hitler or a monument to hitler, which is a certain time of downtime , yes, that is, the place is

like this. so that there would be a contact fountain, well, the victory fountain is good, we already did yesterday too, we were already joking yesterday in lviv, there was a fountain in the center, but uh, lviv residents decided to put a statue of the mother of god there , so the fountain, we stand for the fountain now , so what's more inherent lviv people want to was the mother of god there in lviv there once stood the mother of god and then there was a fountain for the soviets and the fountain was surprisingly beautiful, it fit in nicely here, not everything that the soviet government did was necessarily bad, oh well, but even more so, it is also native to me the city, i studied there for some time, but by the way, about the mother of god , it’s catherine. well, definitely not the mother of god, because of the anecdotes, uh, my wife looks like the

mother of god . a little odessa humor for you from lviv oblast, you might not know humor like that. now you will know. well, thank you, mr. serhiy, for the mood, for the humor and for these smiles during the war. we hope that the galicians of lviv are not here are thrown with slippers for the fact that we are talking about the fountain that was the fountain of the master the mother of god, it is irony - it is also good, it is what keeps us from losing touch with reality, because people who lose their relatives, like putin for example, turn into some poor unfortunate people who want to hear only what they want hear and don't want to hear, the truth is that there was a wide

discussion at that time because there were fears. in particular, i remember the late, er, director of the lviv national museum at the time told podnakovich a little bit that it would become a place where everything would be covered with towels. well, that's how it all happened in the beginning for several years there was really an object of such local worship of all such old, er, grandmothers who, despite traveling with guns, and there it was all taxed. well, it became like this. all the same, this rural culture of ukraine is very important, it penetrates into the city, it does not always completely dissolve in it, and it is also very good because, well, all of them, in fact, all of them, the majority of modern nations, they still have rural roots, not all of them , but let’s say the same koreans were still a

rural nation literally there a few decades ago and well, now i have to talk about south koreans because north koreans, you understand, they are more northerly, of course, so the only thing is that i don’t like what i don’t like, what is the trend there was no such thing. well, now somehow it is starting to appear, since people at some time, until putin came here with a war in the whole country, since more money appeared, then people, well, at least there in galicia, where there are figures, not only in in lviv there is a figure of the mother of god standing somewhere in the villages and towns, people started to make such dashkas above them and all these dashkas are terribly gilded , i don’t know, i don’t want to offend anyone at all, the song golden domes, she is not

ukrainian, she is from there and this no no not ukrainian tradition, well, this and that is terrible. when they all, for example , put new baths on the old church or there, well, they had some absolutely noble ones there, or dark brown paint or green. in fact, they are ugly, and it is precisely because of the mongolian tradition with such bulbs. well, it is it, it always looks very, very terrible, and i don’t know how to get rid of it. some from the church must be well, i understand that there is a community, that is, there is a community and it is the

community that decides how the church should look, there are couples, which is also there, somehow it designs all this, but it is very ugly and that's all, all such images of this russian orthodoxy, which are even in greek - the catholic church is being penetrated here by these golden domes, well, it's just somehow terrible, please, well, i understand that it will pass someday, pshonka style, and people will want to return to something normal, well, but for now, we have such sometimes terrible games, they could leave for something completely different, for the restoration of some kind of authenticity, well, but we have what we have, in some period, ukrainians, er, having a lot, despite everything, despite a difficult history, but preserved wooden churches, er, and in some villages, where were these small wooden churches 13-14 - in the 15th century and even in the 18th century, even in the 19th, they thought that it was a small

church, so unfortunate, ugly, that a brick church had to be built, and so it happened that these churches, if they did not have a good or some such fire protection, all churches suddenly flared up, and then a larger church was built in their place. people did not understand what value they had in their village, having some 13th or 16th century church there, and that this value, on the contrary, could bring some tourists to this village. it would be possible then already in that village to make some small shops or small hotels or not yet anything or some recreational area when you tourists came and left this village without money and people would become richer but there is no such understanding of the cause-and-effect relationship and because of this because of this we are losing some part of our history part of our identity eh and the same eh the same neighboring countries for example romania use wooden churches leaving them with their devices in order to

make some tourist routes these churches so that people can visit to look at what the past has left us and leave at the same time some money in those settlements where these where these ancient churches are well, but this understanding is also something, some kind of trauma after the soviet union because the soviet union said that many of us do not know the history of who our grandfather or great-grandfather was, because if suddenly our grandfather or great-grandfather was a nationalist teacher or someone else who defended ukraine, then he ended up in siberia or something happened to him it is not known what could have hindered your career in the future. i once talked to hrushevsky's niece, great-niece. she said that for a long time she did not admit who she was in the

world, that would be abnormal. family that has a name, you were proud of this name in us , you had to be ashamed of your origin because it could cost you your career or your freedom. of the troops of ukraine in 1998 and 2005, a participant in the hostilities in kosovo, we are now joined by mr. ivan , good day, good day, glory to ukraine, well, first of all, let's discuss the situation now in the southern e-e in the southern direction on your what is

your opinion now and how is the situation developing there? yesterday, the armed forces of ukraine took two points from the population, what does this indicate? what is the situation there now ? the fact that mobilization has been carried out in russia and they are manning their troops to the front in order to resist more and fill them with more personnel and in this way raise the level of defense capability and these are investigative facts that if we used to take eight there are 10 hryvnias of populated areas for mining for two now you said two two populated areas ago definitely this affects the fact that they carried out mobilization and replenish the ranks, but the situation there is difficult and even their military leaders openly state this and take some measures to evacuation but there are not only measures of preparation for evacuation or regarding the body units there of the

national guard and other means that do not take an active part in hostilities there before that there is such a problem - this is the expression of the population with the city of kherson we all know this in order to supposedly prepare a place for street fights, which is very dangerous for us, but i want to say that despite the fact that our artillery means famous farmers broke the crossings and did not cross them sorry bridges and communication routes with the western bank of the dnieper after all, they have established a certain level of communication there, and now the barge bridge is working there, they are also working in the meantime, maybe you can see the ferry crossings, unfortunately. for some reason, we do not manage to effectively fight with them for that to destroy them, what is the matter here? in society, the main

thing for us is that they understand that it is possible for them not to hold this region, they hope to make us bloody in the city of kherson, turn it into ruins like mariupol, and in this way er, it means, how do you say to keep a very large, significant number of our troops and allow them to fight in other directions, because the battle in our city, such a big city as kherson, needs a five-seven-fold advantage in the yard in order to be able to perform there more or less because i am her task for this, you understand , there will be a very large number of people there in our soldiers. in addition, we are ruining this place with their and our years ago. i am a military expert and professional military. i think that our

war political leader should e must find another way to liberate kherson than storming the place itself. and as for the fact that the russian federation is already planning to evacuate the right bank of ukraine, i want to say that if we allow any advance to the dnipro by this group of troops, which to come to the dnipro, then we get very unpleasant eh means then eh positions in other directions of the front, first of all in zaporizhzhia, donetsk and where and so eh, it is going to be a tense situation now, what should be done in order not to give an answer so what to do in order to prevent them from escaping. can we prevent them from escaping and crush and destroy on the right bank, you know, it is difficult for me to answer this question, can we, because i do not have

complete information about the strength of the means we have available, but i want to say that e- and some features as well as the creation of such a situation. we already have and experience where to first destroy any possibility of crossing troops, including ferries, although ferries will cross mobile crossings, they can be equipped in any place that is suitable for being located in order for the ferry to enter on the water well, there are also ferries - they use them mechanized ferries, non-stationary floating ferries on the basis of mechanized troops therefore, uh, they need to be destroyed anyway in these cities where they gather, where they prepare well, and destroy them in some way this barge bridge that they equipped will still be of such importance, the second question is that you are there, there are definitely other ways to evacuate there, small-sized vessels and the like, but they are also in contact, they will be

concentrated somewhere, you can take them it will be difficult for us to further tighten the ring around this group of wax on the right bank of the dnieper because it is decreasing, the area of ​​defense for the enemy is decreasing and its forces and means are being consolidated tanks, mechanized troops, artillery are concentrated in these directions and thus increases or the generosity in this regard, we must find a solution to this issue. i think that our war leaders must understand this very well. and you say that we should not storm and lead to street battles in kherson. yesterday we also heard the opinion that the russians do not have many people left who are trained and ready for street fights, while the ukrainian armed forces have just

enough trained fighters for street fights and motivated fighters, and that is why the russians themselves will probably avoid real battles in the city, what do you think of such an idea , well, i understood your question correctly enough, but there is one thing here, no matter how trained they are , and we are over-trained, they will still be supported by artillery from the left bank of the dnieper and this means that the entire infrastructure will collapse and the whole city will be destroyed in response. we will have to fire artillery at that fortified point at the houses that have been turned into fortresses, where their defense will be concentrated forces and in this way we are all equal the city is destroyed to well to zero let's say this and firstly and secondly you take into account the losses we will suffer there in the city street people

are afraid of big losses, for example when you soviet troops took berlin it was only for and they approached berlin at the end of april, do you remember on the seventh there was almost a victory on the sixth, even before this period of time, we lost 600,000 soldiers and officers, our russian soviets studied the troops, then you understand e for that to be in the garden to win you need to have a very big advantage but all the same it will not save you from losses because they are hitting from all sides from the front from the front with phalanxes and style, including, you understand, this is a very difficult situation and i would think that such a cool city as kherson should storm it is not appropriate, but what is the current situation in donbas, in your opinion, today we heard that we spoke with

roman vlasenko, the head of the military administration of the north donets region, and he says that in general, it has become more difficult to advance, because, after all, there is already an influx of mobilized and russian troops have increased in this direction, as i said when earlier, when only these situations began for those demobilized in the russian federation, i said that yes, about 25-30 percent there will be . the rest will be more capable and it will eventually come into a suitable combat condition and will lead, well, let's say, more or less prepared combat actions will learn to enter. who the demobilized will remain. and this will be a

large enough number that if you count the total of all mobilized, then the russian army is definitely strengthening and in those places of manifestation, say in the dnipro in the donetsk region, definitely there now they are strengthening their whiskey group with these fighters and thus e-e is raising its combat possibilities er mean and count everything that russia has called for, it will be pure cannon fodder - this is nonsense in the images of our mass media, which cannot find another word to express this hatred of enemies flavored meat, this is a street perception of the concept and the distraction of our population and our society from the really complex issues that arise before us, therefore definitely this is also felt in donetsk now, if they attacked in two directions there, sometimes three now

in a day, they are already attacking with seeds, that is, they have received reinforcements and have the appropriate forces to go on the attack and we uh surrender certain positions there, although not uh not such a great distance, but still they are moving slowly forward, and this is very dangerous for us, not very bad, bad, and i would like to add that the results of their mobilization allowed them to go to our place in other directions, for example, in the kharkiv direction. let's go to kharkiv region and luhansk oblasts, they have already gone on the offensive and are beginning to conduct active hostilities. in this way, it is possible to draw a general conclusion from the situation that happened on the russian-ukrainian front that thanks to the deployment of massive missiles on the missile strikes on ukraine on populated centers.

they are trying to break the moral and psychological state of our people and our defenders, but thanks to the replenishment of their troops at the front, that means mobilized, they are trying to intercept the initiative at this time, intercept the static initiative and turn it again, as they say, to their advantage, that is why we have before we are facing serious problems now, these problems will continue to arise because the number of mobilized troops will increase and the number of missile strikes will increase strikes and uavs on the territory of ukraine, if we only know who from the 10th, 156 rockets flew to us and 176 drones, the plan was to start shooting down 50% of uavs. and there are more. and the missiles are about 30. that’s all . for us, it’s m- with serious consequences, but

but in our country. as they say, there is no dump. so there are no other options but to shoot down and fight everything that comes and flies. thank you very much. ivan yakovets, expert, reserve colonel, commander of the mobile forces of ukraine 985, how was he with us? thank you for this conversation and these clarifications our second hour of the marathon ends and always traditionally at nine in the morning we remember all those people who died as a result of the full-scale invasion of russia into ukraine