instrument of russian influence, there are a lot of undefined ones, that is, people can no longer say that it is a good influence, but they still dare to say that it is a bad influence. statements that this action, that the russian church is playing into the hands of russia, russian aggression, that it is playing into the hands of ukrainian defense, and in this way they can take some intermediate position , so on, but what they do not positively talk about the russian church, it is already like a big break. that is, we see that these attitudes will gradually change, moreover, i will tell you, we saw something similar from the 17th to the 21st, when people's views about the assessment of the war in donbas and about the euromaidan is 20-219-20-21 years old and in the east and south people

gradually changed their attitudes and their assessment that the maidan was actually a revolution of dignity and not a coup, this is what russia says that the war in donbas is russian aggression, not civil war, once again insisted on russia, that is, gradually these changes took place, and i think that here we see that and now the russian peace in ukraine is completely destroyed, we see the final extreme institutions of influence on ukraine and this is already irreversible there will be no changes, you conducted this survey from the fifth to the 12th of august, right this year, i guess in this time we already have october and something happens every week and every day that we cannot be ready for anyway, because russia each time somehow it can be said that it raises the bar

of this cruelty, if it is now against or if such a short time can also change something in the views of people radically, if this survey were conducted now, it would already have different indicators, look, i will tell you, and here there is no need to make assumptions, you can rely on the results of the survey are quite accurate, we conducted a study, we will present it again now. mykolaiv oblast and then it was constantly shelled now from zaporizhzhia it is being shelled very heavily then it was fortunately for every day now unfortunately more than what we saw we looked at the emotional state of these people and we asked very clear questions about what people feel when they hear about -e unfortunately, the losses during the shelling of their native cities, what do they feel about losing from the

shelling in other large cities of ukraine, there, somewhere there was kharkiv, and somewhere there was another place where unfortunately , there were vinnytsia and vinnytsia zaporizhzhia they asked about vinnytsia, and in mykolaiv about kharkiv. that was the question of what people feel when they hear about the losses among our military who are fighting for the aggressor, er, about the losses from shelling, the dominating emotions are anger and hatred and the sympathy of the state, so you can simply say that russia acts. that is, it seeks society does not experience completely different results. i don't feel confused. i don't feel hopeless. yes, there are people who feel fear. anxiety is natural. mobilizing anger, hatred and compassion, that is, people are civilians who do not fight, who work, these emotions will make them mobilize so that they

support each other, support their relatives , support the army, work for victory, that is, the russians do not achieve anything by this, on the contrary, they only bring their end closer constantly with their actions, everything after all, everyone is asking about these last pillars, and again, returning to the church of the moscow patriarchate in ukraine, here there is a certain preservation of this territorial division in whether or not moskovskyi can say that there are discrepancies in the results of the answers, that is, in the west of ukraine, we have 74% of people who believe that this is a church or an institution that promotes russian aggression in ukraine, while in the south, only 26% of people think so, that is, the gap is in three times what to do with that, again, you said that it is necessary

. also, the information company, is this company not able to, or is the government not afraid that it can play the opposite role, that is, it can only uh, well , if there were some such sentiments - that's the case that we have the rights of the state and that we will not uh. the last thing we need to do is engage in persecution solely on the grounds of professing one or another religious religion, visiting one or another church, this is not the case and it is the fact that the church is not a state organization either a public organization with a special status that must comply with all the requirements of ukrainian legislation. this is especially true during martial law. these are the same citizens of ukraine who do not have the same privileges as the rest of the citizens. they have the same

freedom of conscience as all other citizens. during martial law they must take a clear position with whom they are from the minsk state, how they treat representatives of their church who side with the enemy, openly participate in the activities of the occupation administrations, hand over people, hand them over to be tortured to death, that is, we are talking about terrible roarers, these matches will be at least convicts, and at most such an institution should cooperate with state security agencies in order to prevent such cases and save people. because the first purpose of the church is to save its flock. they should take care of their direct duty to regional division, in fact, the ukrainian orthodox church is very strongly present precisely in western ukraine and in central ukraine, and there it is actually a sentence for them, a sentence, people will leave them and they will have

their main shepherd present. survey, that is, it is not about the south and not about the east, but about whether such a church will exist or not yet, well, the question shows that they are also digging their own graves and people will simply leave them, so here is the question also about self-preservation and about the awareness that the situation has changed. and you have to take into account the new organization of your activities, taras, and the second thing is to comply with the laws of ukraine, and in no case is this about oppression or persecution on religious grounds. thank you very much for this conversation petro burkovskyi executive director of the democratic initiative fund, i am ilka kuchereva, god did not talk with us about how radically , absolutely radically, in a year, the views of ukrainians on such things as healthy nationalism, the

figure of bandera, and the attitude towards ukrainian of the orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate, where ukrainian in this word combination still remains under a big question. and this still needs to be carried out to such radical changes, in fact, and it is the war that incites, besides, the great war opens new and new heroes among ukrainians, they put the interests of the country above their own, they liberate the occupied lands and all for the sake of returning the life that was taken away from us - the russians take away the story of a marine who from the first days stood on the defense of mariupol and passed the russian our anna morozova is ready to tell about the captivity and with the beginning of the russian-ukrainian war in 2014, maksym has been a marine for 8 years , his main profession is military now, this is my full strong profession, i am proud of it during his service, he performed many combat missions, visited

different points of the front 24 in february 2022, maxim was near mariupol. it all started at 2:30 in the morning. i woke up immediately and i realized what had started. it was completely different when the aircraft barrages over you. well, damn it is completely different. the second war began, maxim and his comrades were ready, the task was to hold on to the last, when we could no longer hold the enemy at the positions near mariupol, we retreated, we occupied the outskirts of the place, and there continued the defense, street after

street, they pushed us, it was very difficult in the gates, we remained 15-20 men in the formation held on, then there was the defense of ilyich's factories, after ilyich's factories, part of the people went to break through. and we decided to unite with the azov regiment and continue the fight for the city. what did you do then? what kind of debt was it, well, it was an organized army, they came in their uniforms with white bandages, that is, it was easy to identify them and every

seven minutes they threw something at us or fired rockets or dropped an aerial bomb every 7 minutes and about once a day there was a massive air raid when heavy bombers arrived and dropped heavy bombs of the fab 3000 type on us weeks turned into months of defense the enemy dominated in the amount of equipment and personnel but the ukrainian military still systematically resisted and kept in line, faith, the real thing is that we are on our land, this is the main thing. we didn't come to anyone, they came to us and they fulfilled their duty , witnesses, and another feat was the combat and humanitarian support of the ukrainian military

. they brought in reinforcements of the old girl, e-e ammunition and took away our wounded comrades, who were heavy, but unfortunately, on the last flight, these two helicopters were shot down, unfortunately, the guys died, and after that, the communication with the big land disappeared, the pilots probably understood all of them. well, they were by suicide bombers, it was a one-way road. and the real hero was that they were returning back, it was a long run. when did you receive at what point of your

service during your stay there, you received certain messages of understanding what was needed? should you leave mariupol or surrender there? i don't know how it is. was correctly formed by you and the leadership when it happened in the matter of surrendering to captivity, we were not at all ready to fight there to the last, but the command received an order to stop the defense of mariupol in order to preserve health and life to go to the russian troops well, how about surrendering as a prisoner but we didn't seem like we left azovstal with weapons in our hands, then we surrendered them, but we left the factory with weapons, we didn't leave them, we didn't even raise our hands up like that we didn't raise white flags for you, well, we didn't

give up, we carried out the order, going out to the enemy, the defender of mariupol, we understood what could await them in captivity. well, we thought about what would happen next . you could with yours only with those who were in the same location as me. unfortunately, in the end, it was difficult to communicate, well, i will not tell much about the captivity. well, i will say so, it was very difficult, morally, physically , someday, you will tell about it, but not now

, the ranks with him are the moment of captivity when we returned to ukraine, it was euphoria, we cried. i was so bad. well, how bad the moss was, i had problems walking with my feet, and when i was brought into my brother's room, we saw this inscription: welcome to ukraine, we were in tears. we just couldn't hold back. hugged each other and sobbed when we crossed this border, our people met us. it was very bad. they provided first aid there, fed us and gave us cigarettes. oh, it was something

. was she building? what was the first thing that they gave us hot sandwiches, but they were already cold, and it was not very, very tasty. thoughts about the family supported maksym both in exile and in captivity. i constantly thought about my family, how they are without me, how i will not return . maxim is not going to ukraine. i would very much like to thank the people who met us. first of all, i will never forget those girls from the ambulance who did not feed me there, tied me up and gave me a

phone so that i could talk to the woman. these were probably the best moments of my life and also to all doctors, to the ukrainian people who support us, that is, to all of ukraine glory to ukraine anna morozova bohdan proskurov tv channel espresso otaki our indomitable defenders and defenders and we thank them for what they do every day every second for us unbreakable is the same name as the choreographic composition with which the irpa team took fifth place at the world dance sports championship among formation teams. this world championship was held in the german city of braunschweig. and the team itself had very little time to prepare more part of the costumes burned,

let's see their performance. well, let's talk about the participation of the ukrainians, it's not easy , it's a difficult time with the coaches of this team, but first, a piece for your attention of their performance

, mr. kateryna vasyl mikheeva, vitaliy solomon, leaders of the adagio dance sport club from the city of irpin, who

, despite all the circumstances, were able to take part in the world championship with us at the contact of mrs. kateryna p. vitaliy, we congratulate you on the fifth place. congratulations to you on our air, please tell me the circumstances of the participation, of course, it is not an easy month to make a new composition, that is, you had some other composition that you were probably preparing before february 24, with which you were supposed to be at this world championship yes, absolutely, that's how we prepared, we already had a ready -made program with which we already performed, we had costumes, but unfortunately, many of our dancers suffered damage to their homes, their homes burned down along with their shoes , costumes, etc. yes, because we had such a drive, er, everything was so painful for everyone that we decided that if god allows us to reach

this world championship, then this must be a program about what we feel, er, each of us about what we experienced. and this is exactly how we saw it. this program was sent out and it was called nezlam. these dance collectives are dance sports. that is, this is a sport with us until february 24 and even earlier. there were discussions about sports outside of politics . your dance composition eh, the sound begins. to the sounds of eh, a duck swims, which is what ukrainians already associate with this old lemki song, but it is now associated with the revolution of dignity. well, in the end, with this music, we say goodbye to our heroes who made us they still defend it outside of politics or not outside of politics, sport cannot be post politics, no way if we all live here the same athletes

are simple people and the war touched each of us each of us each of our dancers experienced a very difficult situation, our city was under occupation because 50% of the dancers are from irpin and 50% of the dancers are from the city of bucha. yes, our dancers are now defending , part of the dancers are defending our ukraine. unfortunately, part of us has one boy who has already graduated from sports. few years ago, but he was a rope, he served in the territorial defense, he was unfortunately killed during the military operations in irpen. therefore, it cannot be a sport, not a politician - this applies to everyone, how were you accepted in germany, how were you asked? well, after all, we are now ukraine everywhere by ear and came so i remember we were received very, very well, it was very nice that after our first

performance it was the 1/4 final several teams made a live corridor for us and applauded us it was the first such a pleasant impression and come out again well, from the floor, we saw a lot of people in the hall, well, directly, it was mainly the germans who wanted to put our country in good standing and show the whole world that we are a strong nation . we had the conditions, we didn't have the time, we didn't have the financial means, that is, there was no financial support, but we were able to prepare and decently present the fifth place - this is the highest place for many, many years of ukraine in this kind of sport in a team sport and did we participate in this championship the russians did not take the world, and it happened, well , if there was russia, we would have refused, first

of all, secondly, when we had military operations in february in irpin, our specific team shot a video and we showed what was happening. where are they now? our dancers who should be out of politics yes, but our dancers were killed, our dancers were sitting in basements we filmed a video that was sent to the international federation of dance sports since that time i am our uh this video is the last straw and the russian teams uh from now on it is forbidden to take part in international competitions and for russian judges to judge international competitions. we also have a very principled position. if we found out that someone from this country was present at these international competitions, we would boycott them. we would not accept or participate. well, this ban exists at the level of e of the international federation of dance sports, that is, the russians of belarus took away the opportunity to hold competitions under the guido

worldwide dance sport, and also to participate as a team sport and as frommation and the same in individual pairs as well, they can’t take part eh, did you meet there, maybe with the german mass media , with journalists, what did they ask you eh well , first of all, the same thing happened to us on the eve of our departure an interview or via skype with a german television and radio company, and hmm. we also talked about the conditions under which we were preparing, but at that moment we actually didn't know why we were going at all, because there were no signed documents for going abroad yet. the first and the second are the same during our performance and in the process, because we were there the whole day, we were also filmed on german television, interviewed our uh children. well, the athletes were also chosen by us, katya, for interviews, and

everyone was directly interested in how in general you were able to prepare and they don't understand at all how we were able to live like this, for them it was a shock to many that the majority of children, girls, dancing returned from overseas evacuation, let's say so, in order to support their city , their team, represent their country. they not they understand how we live in such conditions. and how we also prepare. especially the day before, there were problems with the light, yes, because there were missile strikes, and we were preparing in the dark, with candles and personal gifts. this is a shock for them. they do not understand, they consider ukrainians to be a very strong nation . very strong in spirit and here are the comments of all the german media because the name nezlamni was really well chosen for our team, yes what despite all the difficulties, we are

really a very country with a very strong spirit, strong youth and this is not the most interesting to them eh a ot actually, you didn't tell us how you prepared, that is, with flashlights. and you did it in some hall, where did you find this hall? yes, our big hall in which we prepared for the war is now broken. we have a small hall left on the site, it is left because it is in the basement and during the occupation it served as a bomb shelter, and it was this hall that saved it, and we have this hall, we train and prepare in it, but there is very little of it and it is not enough also one of the reasons why the germans were very shocked that we were able to show a decent level because, well, how in such a small room such a large number of people prepared a program that is demonstrated on a large platform, let's say so,

more can add that the beginning of the competition, well, the official arrival of the teams was from the first day and from 1:00 p.m., the organizers asked how much you need to serve the buses. i say well, we need to be in the hall at least at 11, they say, and why do i say well, all the teams were preparing in normal conditions, and we we didn't have a big site, and that's why every hour, every one of those 10-15 minutes is very important to us. and they said without question, absolutely, we will bring you when you say, and the organizer also asked what else he could do for our team in order to help us in some way in the preparation, i said this will be enough for you, and we are so big, well, thank you very much. that is, we will always be there in the corridors, we were constantly

practicing . other teams and children had a rest, but unfortunately we had to practice all the time in order to demonstrate a good level. and in general , the attitude of the germans was such that, well, ukraine came. thank god, she thought that we were just taking part. and we were able to take a very high place and uh to somehow get past those teams that trained in good conditions have titles have everything they have or nothing they were able to reach a very high place and we are very proud of that and proud of our dancers we are very proud of you and your result thank you to you because it is again the same cultural diplomacy and sports diplomacy that is important and it cannot be said that something is outside of politics because we, as citizens of this country, are not just some dancers , journalists, actors, athletes, we are citizens of this

country and therefore we must defend it in any way, you can't hug the enemy. hugs with the enemy are impossible. there was a sportswoman. now she doesn't hug that sportswoman in russian like she used to, and i think she also changed her mind. it was kateryna salimon. mikheeva and vitaly salimon are the leaders of the adagio dance sports club from the city of irpin, who took fifth place at the world station championship in germany. that's it. we thank andriy seichuk. we say goodbye. melnyk is ready to tell us about them ecology thank you for your continued work