and these, for the first time, are the autumn days before the water supply situation will be important, so to speak, in order to pass the heating season, all these are absolutely obvious tasks for the russian occupiers. allows him to counteract this, as i said, the elementary actions of the buffoons who do not stop, nanny, before they can only perform their inhuman tasks, but there are of course other tasks related to the fact that changes in the russian federation itself must also lead to changes in the war, if of course we can expect some changes in the russian federation in the coming months and years, you will talk about it with the russian oppositionist, a former member of the state duma of the russian federation, and iliya ponomaryev ponomaryev

, he will be in touch with us now , uh, representatives of the russian position are trying to to coordinate among themselves in order to understand what the political situation is in their country, the more it becomes obvious that vladimir putin skillfully uses his war against ukraine in order to in principle, to exclude any opposition actions on the territory of the russian federation itself in order to force people not to be silent, but to be afraid to think that his political steps somehow do not correspond to the national interests of the state he heads, and it has been like this since 2014, we can say that the post crimean russia, which appeared as a result of the annexation of the crimean peninsula and the start of an undeclared war in donbas, from the point of view of human freedom and the opportunity to express one

's own political views, is nevertheless serious differs from this russia that we saw before 2014 , of course, russia before 2014 was also an authoritarian state, but after 2014 it acquires more and more signs of totalitarianism , that is, a regime in which, in principle, a citizen cannot in any way be responsible for his words and actions and this is a serious problem for everyone who in one way or another tried to oppose the authoritarian rule of vladimir putin, at least by working with russian society, at least by trying to defend the rule for the existence of opposition political forces honest media, human rights organizations, all this in one way or another since 2014, and after february 24, 2022, the russian reaction was the most terrible, almost nazi-like in appearance. i would say

that it imitates the worst practices of the regimes of the twins joseph stalin and adolf hitler, these idols of vladimir putin, it passed in the real offensive, now it is not even about the fact that you may have different political views, you may have the same views as the president of the russian federation, but you should not name things as you know, now they are really trying to do everything possible not to call a war a war, only representatives of the closest circle of the russian president vladimir putin can call a war a war, here we saw what the first deputy head of the presidential administration of russia sergey kiriyenko said about the war, however, he emphasizes that russia must win this war , that it must become a nation for russians, well, from the rostrum of the state duma of the russian federation, the head of the russian communist party spoke about the war gennady zyuganov, who also called for winning this war, but some other person who, let's say, does not

want the russian federation to aggressively win the war and at the same time does not want to call vladimir putin's adventure a so-called special military operation. this person is doomed to failure. this person is doomed to arrest. a person doomed to persecution this is what is different from the point of view of the law in the statements of a kyrieyan or zyugane who say that this is a war with ukraine and in the statements of a russian oppositionist whose are arrested for discrediting the armed forces of the russian federation, there is no difference, war is war, both in the interpretation of the kyrieyan and in the interpretation of this oppositionist, however, when you have a mafia rule, when the country is actually ruled by a criminal group, it itself decides how to apply the law and one person for the same

phrase for that the same statement will be rewarded with applause by activists of the bandit party united russia or deputies of the so-called state duma of the russian federation, and another person will be arrested and receive a long prison term simply because she emphasizes that the russian armed forces are carrying out no special operation on the territory of ukraine, that it has turned into a real war, we will now turn to valeriy chalov, the extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine to the united states, from 2015 to 2019. he headed our embassy in the united states . now the chairman of the board of the ukrainian crisis media center, let's talk with him about the situation that is developing today in the international community. i would say to the community. congratulations, mr. valery. we don't see. are there any? well, you know, yes. and these are the consequences of all our situations, but you know

, in reality, they will not achieve anything, but one point must be taken into account that it seems to me that the impact will not be on the citizens of ukraine. but it must be admitted that ukrainian business will suffer from this because there is no complete readiness for inspection for such extraordinary situations, that is, additional generators are probably needed, and precisely for business in hospitals and such there are critical objects, but in such as those that serve the population, it should be done now and probably quickly, as you think. but how much is the situation changing for ukraine now after what happened at the congress of the communist party of china, these are of course expected events, it is impossible to say what something unexpected happened, however, the factor of consolidation of power in the hands of the general secretary of the central committee of the communist

party of china, the chairman of the people's republic of china, sisinfin is not only about his re-election on the third term about how today the observers are commenting on the new composition of the standing committee of the politburo of the central committee of the communist party of china, which consists of almost all protégés, all jumpina, this all creates quite serious nervousness in the world, and we see that now high -ranking american officials are directly saying that there is a war in the taiwan strait it can happen, it's not so long ago that it changed the world's attitude towards what is happening here, that is, the question is whether it is a fragment of such a world confrontation or they will try to end the war here as soon as possible so as not to fight for several franks at once. well, what i see on the public plane is the information i have. because we are actually the first question, do we have an understanding of what happened, what is happening because i even saw the reaction of people on this the pictures of the former agency, when

he went out, did they take out the congress hall there, and how different are the interpretations of this episode? that is, of course, we need to work more actively with those structures that would have reliable information about china's new approaches and will china really be more authoritarian and more ready for war, what we can see now is similar to the speech of sinteine, who extended his stay for 5 years. as it happened twice, only it was a little dedun and e- let me literally, you know this, mr. vitaly, it means in the history of china and uh, now well, there will be a solution in the conditions of such an authoritarian regime, so the conclusion for today is this, if we discard a lot of factors that will appear, my conclusion is that this russian tiger is ready

before jumping to taiwan, and he is ready to do it as soon as possible, it takes a while to firstly justify such approaches of the communist party, more individual leadership, and secondly, to show the results of remaining forever the leader of china, so he will do it until his death. i have no doubt now, secondly, whether he will be allowed to do so, i think that everything depends on the results of the russian-ukrainian war, if the united states and its allies do not help us as much as possible for our victory, they they are helping now, my grateful ones, but they are helping to weaken russia and prevent the victory of russia. if they do not inflict a crushing defeat on putin and russia, it is with our help, with our participation in this war and attention. it is possible that

some group of countries, not nato, but a coalition, will not even enter the war on our side then, er, china's hands will be untied, then an attack on taiwan will be inevitable. can i clarify this point? do you think that the former director of the united states central accountability office, generator petraeus, is talking about the fact that the united states can really take part in the war against russia against ukraine at the head of some international coalition and not as part of the armed forces of the nato bloc. both boris johnson and lis taras have always emphasized that their countries are by no means and do not want to be a party to this conflict, and i do not yet see any hints that someone in washington or london has changed their position on this of a fundamental approach, how can this happen, you are absolutely right, i am not talking about today's mood

, i am talking about strategy, if you just try to look at this whole situation from the outside, the usa cannot lose, they already, uh, well , in principle, they have clearly stated their position on the side of ukraine but not participating in the war and other allies also now everything depends on the development of the situation if the threats from russia will increase and they, let's be honest, will do it to prevent our victory and it will drag on for a long time, then i do not rule out that such a thing could happen, and the paradox is that even now it is possible that they do not think about it, not in the white house , not in other political offices, but intelligence , the military, such scenarios, i know it is exactly like this

there are scenarios, that is, and that's why russia now understands that it's not just that he is calling all the ministers, starting with lloyd austin, the minister of defense of the united states, the minister of defense of france, the minister of defense of turkey , we understand what we are talking about. well, i am sure that it is about the withdrawal the russians are ready on the right bank of the dnieper and they just want to protect themselves from defeat and are looking for a solution to allow them to leave without shelling , but at the same time this moment is also being discussed and because you think just like that in kursk they are making three lines of defense russia has gone on the defensive russia has actually already gone into defense, they are perfect, are different scenarios possible, and so? well, in defense, i mean the preparation and this scenario, well, besides, they are trying to attack, that is, to put it briefly, i do not see the readiness of our allies now partners to bypass the war on our side, but i see

a lot of circumstances, max, several options that can lead to this. and tell me, please, you are talking about mood changes in the american elite. of some leading republicans, they are different, of course what these leaders say to the republicans in the house of representatives mr. mccarthy is different from what the leader of the republicans 18 mr. makonov says is completely different political positions, however, one way or another, we understand that the republicans now have every chance to emerge as winners in these negotiations, they can control the house of representatives, they can even control the senate, and this will significantly change the attitude of the american elite towards direct participation in the conflict. maybe i'm wrong. you you are right that the dynamics are uh, first of all, the dynamics of public sentiments. they are really. let's say this, if

we speak in comparison with the previous period, it seems to be not in our favor because the voters in the usa focus on the fact that it is necessary to invest funds to solve the internal problems of the united states, but on the other hand, the number of those who support sending weapons to ukraine is still quite high there at the level of 60%. the only question is that in these states, in which these numbers are not the same and there is a lot of confusion about the current leadership of the country, it is profitable to talk to the voters in precisely such words that we will cut foreign aid not only to ukraine in various directions. well, let's call it the rule of wings, someone calls it trumpism but there are completely different groups, they are really now using it in their election campaign, so i will say yes, the split

of the republicans - it will not lead to a split, more than that. a package of additional funding that will continue this year if there are no such quick decisions in the congress on financial assistance to ukraine, then the ribbon league will be used as a program specially for this was done where president joseph biden can do it. well, it is simply a decision to lend weapons, but the trend is really such that we need to look carefully at financial aid, not military, but the ukrainian budget for reconstruction projects. it could just be the us congress. it is obvious then that the

volume of aid is slowing down, which the office of the president, let's say, has already announced, which you don't expect, so here we have to control the taxpayers. accordingly, the congressmen on these decisions, well, and i will be honest, yes, this is a trend under what conditions when the president says the same as the majority of congresses. well, here it will be necessary to work with all groups. and tell me what is happening now in great britain, this is the struggle for leadership that we are currently observing attempts to return to the political olympus of the former head of the review boris johnson attempts to take revenge on the former chancellor of the treasurer the elder suneka, who today is also considered one of the most likely candidates for the position of prime minister of the great britain, one way or another, when this happens 45 days after we discussed it all on our broadcasts. and when it was all already discussed by the citizens who participated, let's say, when they

were members of the conservative party in virtual voting, isn't this evidence of such a serious political crisis and whether this political and economic normal crisis will lead to the fact that it will be much more difficult for great britain to participate in the defense of ukraine for which we are all so grateful. well, if we talk about the internal situation in britain then for some reason they will be called a deep political crisis, and from their point of view, well, this is a normal process if the party selects the best option for this leadership, well, in this case, there is no doubt that what is being created is exactly what is being led by these babblings about the fact that they do not have the opportunity to lead the government. but yes, for us it is no, not good from the point of view that this or the cardan of changes of the head of the government leads to three consequences. first, every time we expect the level of

aid to change, but it does not change, and i hope so. the second will remain, we are expecting a visit, let's say the prime minister, well, in this case, registration, but now, you understand, it will no longer be relevant , and we need the third. well, this is already my proposal, we really need a bilateral defense agreement with great britain, a nuclear power. this is what could be done in the near future. and now everything depends on who will become the head of the government , that is, the fighter johnson would probably take more decisive steps, and the decision if he. i am not sure about this, because well, there is speculation, such discussions on the posts from the english gdz of british newspapers that he has some, well, through relatives, a long-distance

connection with the business. it's time for russia, but it's due today, so i think the decision will be on our side, but how decisively , that is, to sum it up. for us, this is a story that must end as soon as possible, that we need to work with an active example. it's good that the minister of defense does not change, and this is already a kind of guarantee it a guarantee of reliability that the intelligence of the ministry of defense is working stably, but recently we received a statement from the general secret of the stoltenberg agency that if suddenly finland and sweden were to experience some kind of aggressive attack on themselves before they join nato, nato will protect them without a doubt. i don't really understand how the application of finland, sweden differs in this case from the application of ukraine if nato is ready to defend countries that are not members of the union

and we do not know how quickly they will become because we now we see the positive vote of the parliament of hungary, but we are waiting for the positive vote of the great national assembly in turkey, how do we differ from the point of view of the candidate countries? is it just fear of russia, and it is all a good question. it requires a deep analysis and formulation of this table, which in our opinion ukrainians, there are no differences, yes, today there is no difference, we are talking about what well, if we remove the issue of internal reforms in the security and defense sector, what is the political will in principle, if there is such a thing it can be done quite quickly changes in the parliament regarding the reform of the sbu regarding the law enforcement system well, the army actually is now at the front, in fact, all these issues are quickly catching up in terms of interoperability with nato countries, and from a political point of view, the key question is the politician, why, for example,

hungary is now in principle with turkey? ratifications they only remained to platify the decision in their parliaments on the accession of finland to sweden, but at the same time they will make this decision, we have no doubt that turkey bargained there with the president dan still got his point out of this. well, hungary will also be forced to do it. and do we have confidence that russian influence on these countries and others will not be enough for this country, first of all , in order not to accept ukraine? i am not sure, that is this is not about russia's fears about the russian ultimatum. it is no longer valid. in principle, it will be absolutely completely destroyed in the event of the

deoccupation of ukraine, but later. russia will unleash a war against ukraine in the event that ukraine declares already well, what will she do already or will they say that let's accept in nato, that's how membership or the action plan regarding membership was blocked in 2008 precisely for such reasons now that putin has turned the pyramid upside down and in fact russia has done already a step forward, this formula is already not working well, therefore, in principle, most likely, there is so far no certainty that er, well, in which with what force in which borders and with what result this phase will end, well, for a long time such a russian-ukrainian confrontation, this is a war, they are waiting for the results if ukraine, er, well, when ukraine wins, i think this political issue will be immediately resolved for today

. ukraine's membership in nato, we know that this is a rather large group of countries, first of all, which are close to us, which could be the objects of attack, just as we are from russia, these are the baltic countries - this is poland - this is slovakia, this is romania, but there are countries of the central of western western europe well, they have to be convinced and the most of the armed forces of ukraine, i.e. such is the reality if ukraine wins when the political ones can be removed very quickly . uh, roman abramovich got into this list or he said it with a delayed status, you know, i see

only open sources hmm, well, let's say it, uh, i'm satisfied with the time of making these decisions, it always is somehow it is accepted with a strange delay. it seems that those people who come across sanctions are given time to first resolve all their issues , withdraw all assets where necessary and then they are imposed on them, that is, if god forbid, some people have their own vested interest in this would be absolutely wrong from the point of view of the decision of the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi , a large list was introduced just recently. that’s what they called, yes, that is, from this list. i don’t understand why some people fall completely and some is there any window of opportunity or, for example, some terms? i don’t understand this. i don’t understand why ruslat and the leaders of rosatom are quite

active at a distance. a terrorist group that simply participates in the war. this is a russian energy group and it is located. similarly, nothing has changed there. this western sanctions also applies to western sanctions seedlings they fall under western sanctions and why should we wait for western france we have to be the leader in this we are fighting first of all we have to apply and insist imposed by our partners at that headquarters, and so far everything happened the other way around. no, i agree. i’m just saying that there is another question. why doesn’t the west introduce sanctions against the various things that hold western politicians when they decide that a state-owned russian corporation should exist like this? well, because because this corporation should be is currently building a nuclear power plant in hungary, a nuclear power plant in turkey,

there are business interests there. what do you think? what do you think , that all western companies withdrew money from gazprom? no, i don't think so. well, they are waiting. they are waiting. big business is waiting for the war to end sooner and in order to restore its status, it wants the southern business with russia. let's be honest. they fled and waited earlier. imagine, you know this . in italy, they paid their salaries in moscow and in russia to their employees for six months. it is finally clear that russia does not want to happen , it happened and now the western investors are doing the same, the fund is small, they are running away, they are still trying to wait for the moment until gazprom will again give this profit and give them money and the same thing happens with the registrar here . well, to betray you a little difference in the sense that they cannot have a position, for example

, hungary in the eu or turkey in nato, yes, that is, in this matter. the interest here, to put it briefly, the interest of profits outweighs the interest of maintaining a common coordinated position in these organizations and values, well, such realities are a complex cynical policy. thank you, mr. valery valery chalyn, extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine in the united states, the chairman of the board of the ukrainian crisis media center was on our air, we talked with him about the situation that is currently developing in the relations between ukraine and the united states and in the relations between the united states and the people's republic of china against the background of the probable crisis in taiwan, i have to say that now here are these threats to the people 's republic of china from taiwan, they are quite

serious at the moment that is being discussed today. will dare to go to war against you and what will the sanctions be against china and how will these sanctions be reflected against the economy of china itself, then against the economy of the whole world, this is an important point, which is it ? how the world will support us and whether a war on two fronts is really possible, we will talk about this in more detail in the next hour, because the guest of our broadcast will be the minister of foreign affairs of the republic of china in taiwan, joseph wu - this is the first interview about appointed representative of the republic of china in taiwan, the ukrainian media, in principle , seems to me for the entire history of our relations with

taiwan, which are now special from the point of view of the support that the republic of china in taiwan provides to ukraine in its opposition to russia, and here already with there are also many political initiatives related to the fact that the relations between ukraine and the republic of china in taiwan should take on special forms in order to respect international law and at the same time be close to those who ready in this struggle of democracy against authoritarianism, a long and exhausting struggle that will take ten years, after all, on the side of ukraine and not on the side of the russian federation . i will answer your questions interactively at the end of this hour. i want to give the floor to the news team. anna eva melnyk will introduce you to the news of this hour with important news because

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