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to understand sports in september slaughter house at 9:30 p.m. on espresso welcome friends on the air program saturday political club angelika season vitaly portnikov greetings so in the first hour we will find out what to do next with critical infrastructure because russia continues to strike directly at the energy infrastructure, which, of course, cuts off electricity in the whole of ukraine and many regions are already forced to be in the middle of visible blackouts. well, we will also talk to you compatriots from the light in connection with these raids, and it also bothers us. the truth is that we will also talk today about the

mysterious the defense plan of zaluzhnye according to the new yorker published an interesting investigation, we will talk about the main theses of the statements made there and how much they will affect the course of the russian-ukrainian war, many others where there will be interesting discussions today, so follow the broadcast and now we have the first speaker serhiy kryvonos, reserve major general and the first deputy commander of the special operations forces in 2016-2019 , greetings to mr. serhiy good evening glory to ukraine glory to the heroes we see you in the semi-darkness it's like this an intimate atmosphere i understand that due to the strikes on the energy infrastructure, these are precisely the consequences of the fact that we need to do certain things in a timely manner, which will then allow us not to sit in the dark and

use what we have recorded on the site to directly use the available means of civilization, it is very calm, so i apologize that such lighting is precisely the lack of light in the place where i am now, so the question is not how we see, the question is how we still hear, so i am happy to communicate. well, let's try to understand what the goals are are being persecuted in russia when they are already systematically destroying the ukrainian energy infrastructure, it cannot be said that this is news, we have been talking about it since the first days of the war that before winter vladimir putin will to try to freeze ukraine and not only ukraine , but also the plans for europe, and they remain in effect. by the way, how far-reaching are these plans, what are their military components, what do you want, the main thing is that this also applies to the military component , we are planning what russia will be to plan strikes on

our infrastructure, i said even before the start of this great war, i understood how from what means will we do it, unfortunately for me and people like me. they did not listen to their speeches then, but the question is no longer that it was a question of what will happen, the russians will respectfully, continue to strike critical objects of our infrastructure, primarily energy, because energy is primarily light and heat in the houses, as for large cities and water in these houses, and they clearly understand that the bigger the city, the easier it is to put him on his knees and first of all, these strikes are aimed at the fact that large cities will freeze in the absence of electricity , the lack of water will lead to major disruptions in the work of sewers and, directly, in the future, the lack of water, heat and normal sewage

will lead to public dissatisfaction and this will be one of the reasons for the investigation of the situation for the russians , in fact, as far as the military component of the center is concerned, it is very simple . e mobile communication companies, they are not mobile in the sense that we do not have our own electricity, they are tied to working power grids, and any military man who studied in normal educational institutions knows one golden thing the rule of war is without communication, there is no control without control, there is no victory, the russians are trying to steal our victory by depriving us of control, therefore it is necessary urgently and as soon as possible to carry out certain measures that would provide our country with communication, because it is precisely the lack of communication that the

russians hope for will lead to chaos and the fact that panic may begin in ukraine. to be honest, i do not particularly believe in such forecasts, but in the meantime , our government must urgently take these measures, as well as those measures to combat drones parts of the devices that we see now, because losing huge expensive missiles to shoot down relatively inexpensive drones, as we have already called them, and the whole country means like flying mopeds. we will eventually reduce our arsenal, our ability to shoot down more important targets, the russians hope that when we use this arsenal, then they will fly over our heads with impunity and deliver more accurate and more massive air and missile strikes on our cities and state infrastructure facilities, this is

so far-sighted from the point of view of military rules and our task is to clearly understand what our priorities are at the moment and what we need to do urgently to disrupt and make their plans impossible serhiy, could you be more specific about how the government or the general staff should do to prevent power outages? because i understand that, you think maybe something was not done before this and now what can we do to ensure that the mobile connection always remains is this some kind of secret information well, er, certain proposals i have already submitted to the military leadership of ukraine what is needed exactly to do, and it does not require a lot of money and does not require funds, in fact, the things that we have to do were once done in other countries

. it is currently proposed to mobilize all electric motor aviation, retrain people quickly, equip these planes with means of shooting down, and using these planes, you can shoot down these drones on the approaches to our cities, to these objects that are critically important to us. it sounds simple enough, but it can also be done, the main thing was the desire for these light-engined civilian aircraft, it is enough for us if we urgently solve the issue and get, e.e. corporate rotorcraft of the tucano type, that is, an even better one will improve our ability to shoot down these aircraft in due time e- eh when submarines eh reich crisis marinas began to bother the united states of america they just

connected a huge amount of the local population who used light motor aircraft and boats to search for these submarines in the same way and we can use only change the elements. we are not looking in the water, but while we are looking in the sky and knocking down in the sky, we can do this plus using the availability of shooting equipment , weapons that we have and creating powerful mobile fires groups and rights, a detection and notification system has been organized regarding the approach direction of these aircraft. we can also improve our capabilities, it is not worth a lot of money, it is worth the laundry organization and the laundry management system about which i said from the very beginning of our broadcast how much, in principle, can we now fear that the russian armed forces may use some, let's say, apocalyptic methods of combating ukraine, i will even say now not about nuclear weapons

. what can happen outside of the use of nuclear weapons, there was the use of chemical weapons, bacteriological weapons , er, detonation, er, dam here, now it is very relevant against the background of what is happening in the er situation with in kakhovskoe and the destruction of infrastructure by means of a conventional war. well, as for the detonation of dams, we already had examples during this war when dams were put out of order and water flooded a certain territory, and this greatly complicated the movement of troops, and this especially applies to the dullness of the year when it is cold at the moment, it is clearly no longer cold, so of course they can make it difficult for us to move forward, so the russians have previous experience from the times of the second world war, when the

zaporizhzhia hydroelectric power plant was flooded and blown up. and the flooding of a huge territory of the south of ukraine led to the fact that they, the red army, lost a huge number of their troops, and this emphasizes that they can flood their troops in the south, like the russians, as well as an example when the explosion of rapid platinum near moscow stopped the advance of german troops near moscow - this is clearly remembered by the facts, and as they show the experience of this war, they very often use the experience of previous wars to overlay the nuances of modernity. advancing on the left bank of ukraine in the area of ​​the kherson region, they can go to this, let's say west, and plus the fact that then removing the cooling system of the reactors of the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant

will also be problematic and there will be two ways out of this situation, or at the moment our political leadership is diplomatic and the leadership of the energy atom absolutely let's clearly and consciously raise the level of this issue to the level of paramount importance in the world. and secondly, if it fails to do this and they still blow up platinum, then there will be a stoppage, a huge stoppage of all rectors of the zaporizhia nuclear power plant forced shutdown, we see that such a prospect may be what concerns the flooding of the territory of the kherson region and huge losses among the local population, which is there now is available, it will also be necessary to be ready for this, plus a big enough problem, it may be ecological disasters in the south of ukraine due to the use of these wrong methods, but still the way

of waging war, mr. sergi, it is not profitable for the russians, because their groups are also on the left on the banks between the dnieper and the ingulets river, they will cut themselves off from the supply in the same way, they will quickly run out of fuel and lubricants, they will be able to transfer equipment or it does not matter to them, they are ready to cut off their groups in the same way in order to harm ukraine plus water for crimea and it won't be like that either. well, what directly concerns the issue of the right-bank group of russian troops in the territory of the kherson region, tanya stands, what will they be able to do when you withdraw your troops to the left bank. as for the issue of water for crimea, i will honestly say that, in my opinion, the russians are absolutely not concerned about water for crimea, because

their military bases located on the territory of crimea have been located there since the 14th year and are actively developing their own structure they primarily provided these objects with water, and what was related to the provision of the population, what was related to the provision of the vineyard fields of the crimea, and was not at all interested , therefore, for them, the crimea was always interesting only from the point of view of military and political, and the military as simple as this is a bridgehead from which you can absolutely calmly blackmail europe by taking off on planes that carry nuclear missiles with nuclear ammunition and this is probably the most important thing for the russians , that is why there will be no crimea for water, this will be another factor for them. is waging a war, because of course they will blame that it was us who blew up the

kakhovka hpp and not the russians, as much as i already wanted to the next topic, so you give them finality, i really want to understand in general hmm the very plans of the russians regarding nuclear power, you said about the zaporizhzhia npp. and it could be a situation that the russians are not targeting the destruction of ukrainian nuclear power at all, it was to control other nuclear power plants, maybe that is why they are gathering in the north . they are very simple goals - go up to rivneskaya and even to khmelnytskyi , install there, and then it is really possible not to knock down any chp plants, you don’t need to destroy any more, you just have nuclear power plants and everything is absolutely true, this option is very important and the task of the russians is to make us, first of all, an economically weak country, and without energy, we can become one, for sure, at that stage, the

easiest ways that they can choose, including this attack from belarus, which i also said about in the 21st year and just one of the objects that may be interested in this is the netishinsk station, or as it is called the khmelnytskyi and rivne nuclear power station . especially since there are not such great distances from the border, directly about why not to publish the locations of the shooting down of drones, why is it dangerous? well, in fact, any information that the enemy can use against us plays into the enemy's hand, so the less the enemy knows where they are going, their unmanned aerial vehicles fell, the

better it will be for us and it will be calmer, of course, their intelligence that exists on the territory of our country is still active and is conducted, including by agent methods, because the work of the fifth column is strong enough on the part of the russians, so it is very often surprising to me when local leaders are at the level there in in the area of ​​the regions, they tell us where they hit, or just hinted at whether they hit there or not. i think that it is not necessary to immediately advertise and say. and where exactly the enemy’s missiles or unmanned aerial vehicles hit, this should not be done unambiguously, and the less the enemy knows, the better for us, but in the meantime this does not mean that we must remain silent for the time being in order to solve a successful task for our country. we need to solve three issues, that is, to strengthen the training of our reserves and special forces even before they come to the ranks

of the armed forces, and it is necessary to prepare the male population, first of all, so that as soon as possible they can become, with the continuation of certain waves of mobilization, the second thing is to raise the question and remember what our capabilities are in terms of military economic potential and remember what the effect is spaer and still start using it and the last thing is to prepare it for our territory, because any village must have its bunkers , its bunkers, its dug-out positions, taking into account the interaction with the military, and this is not a panic, it's just pre-prepared defense lines from 5 km from our border to 300 km from the border, and this should be done right now, and it is necessary to raise the question that in any building of ukraine

, on any street, there must be people armed with trained and high-quality weapons to defend their their family, their house , their street, their city, their village, this is what can stop the russians, because they understand that if the resistance is truly total, it will not work in their favor. therefore, it can significantly reduce their desire. and just then, the technical problems began but they heard mr. serhiy everything they wanted is important, they heard serhiy kryvonos, reserve major general and first deputy commander of special operations , was with us in 2016-2019, and we are moving on, we have further international topics, in particular, that the seat-stump can continue to rule again and to china, the united states has midterm elections, and we will also talk about the fact that the war in ukraine has split some

republicans, that the aid to our country continues after the elections, yulia rashkin, a political and public figure in the united states communication welcome greetings panel hello good day glory to ukraine i draw forgiveness i speak in russian i understand let's apologize continue let's continue yes let's start with what anzhelika was talking about just before our conversation began let's talk about what with a republican it 's completely appropriate a personal story when the leader of the republican in the senate and the leaders of the republican in the house of representatives are panicking, it is difficult to present . the americans establish control over two houses of congress or over one of them, even if the leaders of the majority do not have mutual understanding on one of the fundamental issues of american foreign policy, такой вообщее может быть well, this was in a very rare situation, or i can't even remember that there was a precedent because yes, you are the absolutely right-wing head of republicans in the

senate, the sword of makonov is in israel, mccarthy, who should be the head of the republicans in the lower house, they are from the same party, this is the main thing, but here in they say different things, although at the same time trump poured mud on both of them, but one is somehow able to live and work in this mess, and the other decided that it is all the same, as if he seems to him that america and national security are more important than party affiliation so we see that the republicans in the senate, according to their leader, want to continue helping ukraine, and in view of what trump wants. to save him from prison, but we see that the situation is simply heating up because now all these november elections have arrived, for example, now there are complaints from voters in arizona because this is

one of the most unbelieving states that the result was not rigged and he really lost there, although a lot of others won by a huge margin. but trump lost, and they sit and take pictures of people who come to vote for the council. now, if you voted, it means you were free , how can it be because we understand that the elections are rigged, there is such a stalemate in general , but it is not very pleasant. tell me, in principle, what do you think of president trump if he returns to the white house, but in fact will radically change today 's political course well, on the other hand, this is the president who gave ukraine a javelin theo, jewels that he did not want to give to president baba, and this is also not necessary to say i know, i don’t even understand the details, the jewels could have flown and they were used, or it was

just such a beautiful pr trick, but we see that the biden administration allocated more than 15 billion dollars of military aid to ukraine for less than 20 years in afghanistan. 72 billion dollars was allocated over the years, but if you compare it to 20 years ago, it is less than the covenant, and at the same time, as we all know, there were many american troops in afghanistan, and here we are transferring this weaponry to not ours we will not transfer our hands to the future and this is an unprecedented case for the united states, and therefore i am sure that the story of the bidens will not reduce their support for ukraine. -he himself is kilometers away as a person, that's why he refuses ukraine, he doesn't gather, he didn't gather and he won't gather with him for at least two more

years, and after that there is a senate, which, as you correctly indicated, at least the head of it will be republicans for ukraine and still quite a good chance despite the fact that public opinion polls show that the support of both parties has now come closer but this is normal in a democracy before they won always it turns out to be 49 to 49 because this is the way it is the system sometimes we hesitate, but then, uh, we trust the elections less and less. and the population is just there. so let's see what the calculations show, but at the same time, even more than 100 people believe that our elections are fair and no one tampers with them. but here it is the aggressive minority is becoming even more aggressive, that is, the fear that u.s. president biden said about them, that even if the majority of republicans will help ukraine , they know that this is not a political move as

a representative of the democrats, it can really be because the guest department believes otherwise you see, i already stated that, as i said, i marked the future of the possible head of the lower house and will present the leader of the majority, that is, the picker of the house of representatives, so now nancy is dusty, and because there are a little more democrats, and here can be a little more republicans and then their head becomes the speaker and he said that we will not give the winter of ukraine a blank check, yes, ukraine is important, but there are other priorities . parties and a certain part of the left side, these are the same people who support the right centers, and i am a man - that is to say, i respect his politics within the country, but outside the country, these people say no, no, no, we can't, no we need to interfere in what kind of warriors? war is bad , such principled pacifists, again, i consider that, in this case, people are wrong, and so

support will grow, but the republicans, in which the second party controls the party, trump has a controlling stake, trump is in putin’s pocket, and that’s just everything. it is so applicable that when they declare that either the second history shows very clearly that biden helps trump almost did not help, it can be if the javelins were, but they were. there was some additional offensive, that is, there were some very a-a counterattacks, it was not just that, i don’t know if they were ever used until february 26 a-a so that the republicans, yes, but at the same time, people in the united states, this is probably the most important people continue to be pro-ukraine en masse and they continue to support their politicians in some way in personal meetings with others and this is a factor, but on the other hand, i just now spoke with our local poet who is elected to the state assembly, they are not they control as it were international affairs but they

conducted i'm just family and ukraine they didn't even include in the list what is possibly important to the voter a-a so that's a state level they how to say that they have other priorities so that politics and democracy are interesting things but i think that ukraine will be in order for the time being, the topic of great britain is probably because they have such an internal political crisis . do you think that it was possible to avoid it because straz did not hold on to her position, but she left she gave in, and what do you think is the failure of her reforms, first of all, or intra-party pressure? you know, i always look at the general dynamics that i observe, and here i observe that when the leader came out, the very unpopular ideas of this leader were thrown out, and it means eh the apartments that she is in kupala mean that they occupied downing street and the people

solved this problem and the country no matter how it fell apart the country continues and there is a government and there are different institutions . popular and we have elections in all green states . and for now, there is a human election and for 49, then you can make an application to this person. aid package well, whoever wants it from the victims of the hurricane to ukraine and then they declare that this money is helping their district and they ask for this money to be brought, but they have to go along the lines of the parties. how would they reject all of this ? kraimer in england, i'm watching, just tell me the development of this democratic experiment of the experiment. oh , what she proposed in the package, which

helped people who earn more money, and at the highest level. how would this help the economy? this is a reminder. because it doesn't work and they already know all this, we in america had such a president, runet dreygan, who implemented the idea of ​​a three-way down economy. something and you took off that it doesn't work either, that when these rich people from above receive money from them, they don't trickle down, they just keep it and invest it, for example, in panama . people in great britain apparently understood the ethos too. and tell me, in principle, this is the destabilization of great britain. americans understand that who would not become the new prime minister of great britain. can great britain, in principle, withdraw from this cross in the foreseeable future, i do not see that in it society understands the reasons of krista i