we can play our game with them, we can't, but belarus can because they are still investing in belarus, protecting belarus, they will still perceive it as a part of russia, so simply a more obedient part of russia, in which you can play against russia itself, but still they will clearly understand that belarus must be in this orbit, their common orbit with moscow, they are calculating something for themselves there, so we will not receive support, of course we have to go back and until then we will have people who will think that they are something there with china will decide and while we will be conscious of part of the political elite who will think that the chinese is such an alternative that it will be possible to take money from china and spit on european and american conditions, we will be in a state of almost classical impasse. factions believed that it was

possible to build a communist regime like china in ukraine, at least they said that their party should learn from the experience of the chinese communist party, and i don’t think that they have changed theirs even rhetoric, and my views, that's why i think it's incredibly dangerous, you understand, you can win any number of wars, but if your policy is determined by people who like the chinese communist party, they think that your state is doomed, but they like it or don't understand, it's just that when you earn a lot of money, you don't know how to earn otherwise , because you understand that the business of such countries depends solely on how you are treated, if a certain official treats you well, you do n't even need all the bells and whistles where he knows it not even jesus christ, but god the father, you will never see him like this, and i just see myself as the second secretary of some gaussian provincial committee of the party, if he treats you well, and you produce some conventionally speaking paper clips

or some metallurgy or something else rollers and he thinks that his region should buy your rollers, or a friend, a businessman from a factory located in the territory of his region, should cooperate with you, and i will just call a friend, a businessman, a friend, a businessman, or a friend that a businessman from a wonderful country needs our help sign a contract with him you will earn millions of dollars if this is the second time the secretary will suddenly be arrested for corruption immediately your genius businessmen will go to waste there will be absolutely no need comrade businessman will tell you that he has never seen or heard of you and there is no contract and everything will end well and here but if you can't do anything, if you're a random person, a rascal, then you've got such a business. by the way, why did these russian oligarchs always go here, what's a honey prayer, well, no the rules of the oligarchy of corruption were clear to them here, and they could compete here, and now you see the protans are introducing sanctions, by the way, let’s remember this topic, mr. vitaly, the nsdc

introduced sanctions against e russian oligarchs, and president zelenskyy put them into effect, in particular, among such high-profile names is abramovich fridman’s family e rottenberg and others p vitali well, i understand that our main goal is not just to publicly blacklist them there, but to seize their assets in ukraine for the benefit of the state. well, of course this is absolutely obvious, but the question arises as to whether it is not too late and what assets they have left after the western sanctions. it seems to me that this is, first of all, today just a gesture in favor of the western countries, because the western countries, the united states, first of all, could all the time ask it is absolutely logical for us why. tell me, please. and why are you at war with russia? we are introducing sanctions against citizens of the russian federation who are oligarchs in the

building blocks of the putin regime. and you are not. and why should we read in the periodical press in the press? the message that you are going to grant them ukrainian citizenship so that they can bring their money to ukraine is kind of strange. it all looks strange, either we are allies or they are allies . well, i also think that this is quite serious, and this situation has been for a long time. vitaliy what do you think , why was it underestimated, what role did this whole oligarchy play from the point of view of building putin's regime, and their motives were underestimated, because even now, among those against whom sanctions have been imposed, there is no novel by abramovich, he somehow with some conditions under these sanctions, although, as far as i understand, roman abramovich does not have a big business in ukraine, but maybe there is an opportunity to have something here for a certain time because

roman abramovich is involved in the process of exchanging prisoners in russia, but with some condition in any case, it is absolutely obvious that these people should have come under our sanctions a long time ago, and that we should treat them like the civilized world. the idea was that they could somehow influence the future. i also thought about it immediately, but it was wrong. yes, absolutely, i said that 15 years ago, they gave all the power to the chekists politically, this is a huge mistake, huge. i don't even know what scale it is for them. for some reason, they all decided that it would be convenient for them. initially, boris yeltsin's family and the oligarchs close to her decided this way by the way, they were paid for it. some quite seriously then decided that all these oligarchs who remained, in principle, are all quite small people who

earned all their billions precisely because they will be on good terms with either the kgb or the komsomol, there are two groups there are people who tried to earn money more or less independently with different ideas, sometimes adventurous, like berezovsky, sometimes connected with some media business, with some innovations there, like volodymyr hosynskyi, sometimes connected with the ideas of the oil business, eco, of mikhail khodorovsky, they are all who died who expelled, and who was imprisoned for a long time in these others - these are simply not businessmen when they tell me about the enormous abilities of some friedman chavin well, i saw him, and he was the minister of coal, gaidar, if i were the minister of voters would also become a millionaire a billionaire i apologize when you are in the government that distributes billions well, it is somehow strange that you do not take yourself, measure yourself a billion well, you will go there because you can put on the smartest

face for yourself, but the question arises and what did you do after that what's wrong with your business, what did you develop, well, you have this money, well, i have a bank that enjoys state patronage, they say that this bank even has some fate of putin . well, of course, all this will grow because you can all this is to be used, and what is the business, we know, like the business of steve jobs, we know what business musk was sitting on, you can’t help but like your passport, but he is full of ideas, we know what business henry ford had there, we know what business billieta a i apologize to friedman's business, it 's the bank's fault that they did such a thing, and what kind of business did some scumbag have? they gave him the state combine and the sixth combine, well, that is the question. well, that's what i'm talking about, they're just drones who have attached themselves to the former state budget everything and of course these people needed to be deprived of these absolutely not not not in a normal

way received shooting ranges by a real assessment of who they are that they are not businessmen but in fact ordinary state officials and agents and that's it and that's it, they can call themselves whatever they want - a person who buys a house in london can say to himself that he is the duke of kanderbirsk, but that does not make him a duke for dukes, to be born or to receive this title from the queen. well, it's the same thing. well, it's just the same thing. these people can't even be called rich soon, it's just the bureaucratic mafia and the fact that we didn't understand this for so many years and now you can see at least these 8 months in two days it will be 8 months because those of them who simply did not develop enterprises

it's just that there aren't many of them now. when these enterprises disappear, what will be left of these tpp owners, they are capable of some business idea in another place, because if a person could earn billions in ukraine, he can, in theory, earn in the czech republic and in poland, but somehow i can't imagine somehow it will not be possible to steal money from the budget, so that only those people will remain who have really developed their enterprises because they will know how to do it, whose enterprises were prepared on the western stock exchanges, passed the ipo, these people can imagine at least the tools of business development, but if there are, relatively speaking, some the owner of the airline, who closed it down in bankruptcy, created a new airline simply because i had the opportunity to connect with the state, and then when it disappears, he will not be able to create a third one because he lost the opportunity to connections, i'm not a businessman. it's not about business and the russians, it's definitely not pro-business, so i'm just very surprised. to be honest, we didn't

understand this. and these numbers that we reached this topic only 8 months after the attack, yes, in the end the hope is not the same, mr. vitaly, that they did not have time to withdraw their capital from ukraine for the first time during this time, i think that they had such an opportunity and that western sanctions did not block us from the opportunity to nationalize their assets and transfer them to state ownership. about the head of turkey is reprimanded because he is making statements again. let me organize a meeting for the president of the russian federation , the president of ukraine, you and i. i want to organize a meeting of a person because he cares about his

interests. look at him soon. the presidential parliamentary elections are not very high . this is the person who created the turkish economic they did a miracle at the same time the turkish economic decline he needs something to show the voters his role as a global player he wants to sell it er istanbul bazaar but i don't have it now i don't have these wonderful ponytails now i don't have these wonderful suits and these boots now i don't have anything it didn't come, but i will sell a mirror, do you want such a small mirror, you will look at it, you will see how beautiful you are, and you will come to me all the time to buy a mirror, the fact that you came for a handkerchief is irrelevant, but why do you need this handkerchief buy a mirror that's how it is and so are you. your lira is falling, your economic situation is difficult, you're losing your job, and i'll stop the war, who

else can stop him? now it will be enough, listen, and if i voted for the president all these years and now i lost my job and i have little money, i thought , but he is a great politician, we will heat the world and get paid for it, you will return to your work and be able to sell uh handkerchiefs, benches, not only alfalfa. this is so-and- so. i don’t see any reason to believe that president putin wants to talk to president zelensky about anything, besides capitulating when people say that the president’s actions become more lenient, they don’t destroy civilian infrastructure. i see that putin confidently, without any hesitation, without any semitones, moves like a train along this line that he drew for himself, perhaps after the blitzkrieg, and so i say, if you and i see that this line is connected with the destruction of civilian

of infrastructure was outlined by us back in march-april and is happening in october, so nothing has changed with putin, he did not choose another option for himself. i am not saying that he will never choose it in his life, but we are right not. the decree that he does not want to talk to president putin, i sincerely understand these intentions of president zelensky because one day you do not want to talk, we will wait for the next ukrainian president, well, president zelensky should say well, i will wait of the next russian, there is logic in this. why does he, why does he have to humiliate himself, and in this sense, i think that the president is simply creating such and such an illusion, such an illusion does not need to be taken seriously, on the other hand, if thanks to this illusion, let's tell the president to continue the grain agreement this will already be a victory, that is, for turkish

diplomacy. well, we have a victory for turkish diplomacy. and what is he doing for this, because now he just says that i hope that he destroyed the agreement will be continued, i can say that he is doing it agrees with putin's idea of ​​creating a gas hub ugh, this hub is not clear who needs it but putin wants to show that he means such a solid partner i want to supply gas to europe, so he also needs to create this illusion if putin speaks well well, you know what therefore, we will not continue this grain agreement because explosives were transported on the grain truck for the north stream, one in the nord stream-2, so as a reminder, you know that i found out that explosives were also transported on the gas truck and there will not be any of the gas hub, vladimir and he drags putin in this way. this is a difficult game of two combiners. if

you want to talk about gas hubs, please do not cancel the grain agreement. and if you cancel the gas and grain agreement, i can say that we cannot now build a gas hub and you too you won't be able to play the game with the europeans that they blew up the nord stream. but you can transfer gas to them through ukraine, of course. and you don't need to sell it and they don't need to occupy it. you just need it. why would you do this? well, you can do this the move of this chess game only if you don't interfere with these pieces, that is if you can't say that it's stupidity no, it's a chess game he made this move , we'll make gas haps and organize meetings from here and now i'm waiting for putin's move , if putin goes his way yes, we continue grain agreement well, let's move on, if not, then it means this is a different move, we are taking a step, giving up the gas one, or even so, you can play for a long time and not necessarily judge at the table of zelensky and putin , at the same time, you can simply promise, of course, for this

there is no need to put zelensky at putin's table at all. i think that there is no such thing in the head of a good council. he already tried to put the minister of foreign affairs of russia and ukraine and russia serhii lavror at the table for negotiations. when i was sergey lavrov in antalya, nothing came of it. he is a person who can to draw conclusions, he is already an electoral politician and maintains power all his life by winning elections, such people from election victories, such people are able to draw conclusions from previous experience, he does not need a meeting with zelensky putin, but it is necessary to show that only he can organize it. this is an absolutely logical question for such a person, and again, one should not harbor unnecessary illusions. but if we can continue to transport grain, now the president said that it seems to be the turn of 150 ships of montenegro and they are playing now in the ozoon, the russians , that is, the inspectors do not let a large number of them pass,

they are playing a game, it seems that they do not have time. well, this is such an italian italian strike, so you must understand the logic of erdoğan, that is, maybe it is not the best political logic, but at least it can be calculated at such a chess table, the only thing is that it will not allow to stop the war, but it will allow to earn some money on the further transportation of grain and postpone the prospect of famine in this world in the global south, this is also it is very important because this famine, as you understand, can completely bury all the possibilities of europe to help us, and not only us, as you always say, man, putin is counting, of course. because putin always counts only on blackmail, energy blackmail hunger, nuclear blackmail, i'm already confused by the number of these blackmails, he's a merchant of terror, you know, he only trades in those that the ordinand trades in various political tools, putin can only scare you, you know, like a maniac from the sub-

servients, there are always terrorists, too, that must be destroyed liquidate if they have one of the world's largest nuclear and arsenals, it is not so easy to do as we wanted, although your logic is absolutely accepted . and vitaliy portnikov, we thank vitaliy very much for the professional answers. literally in a few seconds, iryna koval will tell you the updated news release. wait for it. good evening. we are from ukraine. vasyl zima's big broadcast. my name is vasyl zima. two hours of air time and my colleagues are with you until 9:00 p.m. time, we will talk about the most important things for two

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for many those two hours were, well, at least one can say not for everyone, because dynamo kyiv lost and there is something to criticize the kyiv team, the mir team or lucheska perhaps it was possible to distract from what is happening in our country, especially what is happening in ukraine in recent days and weeks, so today i think that the lion's share of our project will be devoted to confrontations the main duel in ukraine in ukrainian sports, shakhtar vs. dynamo, well, at this match we had a film crew led by kateryna oliynyk and she prepared such a story, let's start with it and then go into detail about today's match as part of the 7th round of ukraine meeting the lviv arena came to the lviv stadium, which recently became almost home for

the orange-blacks. the last time the kyivans met the miners was in october. last year, the match ended in a draw before the game. ukrainian defender kateryna polishchuk with the call sign bird touchingly fulfilled them and you and us, ukrainian brothers , fate will smile also at the match, the marine mykhailo dianov was released from captivity, he made a symbolic kick on the ball for taras stepanenko , this match became 450 at the club level, the players and head coach ihor jovovych did not they forgot about the congratulations, the first half ended with the score 1:0 in favor of shakhtar for the miners , oleksandr zubkov scored in the 32nd minute.

a fundamental match for everyone, therefore, of course, it was difficult for us because without our self-sacrifice, a hundred percent attitude to the match, you cannot be a winner in such matches, at the beginning of the second half , it was hot, the teams exchanged goals with a difference of a minute, at first dynamo equalized she knocked down the score with her head after a cross from the standard shakhtar quickly reciprocated mudryk brilliantly sent the ball into the bottom corner of the goal god, let's give it to those who work if you practice such shots, sooner or later they you will have a lot of trouble, i added fuel to the fire, a red card for ilizabarny after an assist by the wise man danylo sikan scored the third goal in an empty crowd. please tell me, are you taking master classes on scoring goals? people play more high-quality football and in the top championships you do not match

anyone personally. i never match . i just follow myself. who do you consider to be the biggest competitor in the ukrainian premier league dnipro dnipro is a very good team and they have everyone see that now they are beating everyone and i think this is the main specific moment of the victory, they left the arena lviv happily. what can you say about the team of the section in the next match, shakhtar will play in the champions league with celtic, and dynamo will meet with poltava kateryna oliynyk oleg palamar of espresso tv channel here is a sketch from arena lviv and now let's go directly to the match, well, the favorite was shakhtar clearly here, we understood that dynamo, although such matches could always be an outsider to win

earlier, in fact, kateryna told almost everything, so all the events are in chronological order. now we suggest that we analyze the game, so if we start with the one who speaks, then well, let's be honest, the last few have already seasons, several matches in a row, shakhtar is the favorite even well, let 's start with 3:1 in the final result of this match, which took place at arena lviv, this arena lviv katya said that it is almost home for shakhtar is also home for dynamo, so even without spectators, this stadium was definitely neutral for the team due to the result against shakhtar. however, we can see that the statistics in kyiv dynamo have an advantage, for example, possession of the ball. well, here, er, there are different data on the plane hits, there are even those that, well, now we see that shakhtar has it in our statistics, but i looked at other sources there, and dynamo kyiv even had a greater number of hits and the total, and it is directly the plane, well in

depends on who is expecting who is counting , and the expectation of goals here is definitely shakhtar's and shakhtar's performance was the maximum. therefore, it definitely affected the result. well, perhaps the most important factor that did not play in favor of dynamo, on the contrary, made a huge form for shakhtar this is the removal of the leader of the defense of dynamo kyiv and liz barrny, and here it is still worth personalizing eh in this match that, after all, once again the leader of shakhtar donetsk played his role, wise, he influenced everything, he did not score, he gave an assist, he gave an assist in front of the goal , or when he gave a goal pass from a corner, he gave it to the winner, he threw it to zubkov, who opened the scoring in this match, he earned a penalty and despite the fact that he did not implement it , theory, but leadership qualities . there was no real effect - there was no effective one, there were effective

shots, but there was no efficiency and productivity from him, and the game was played in the same way by a barman from under whom he gave er and mourning and from under whom all kan who earned a red card just ran out well, it was already clear that it will be impossible to pull out this match after the withdrawal of ilizabarny, here we see this goal by zubkov in the 29th minute, where he throws a mourning and then at the far post, it's just an ovcharenko, well, he overslept, the wise man gives the banning, he loses the mourning duel, look how simply the grass scatters and zubkov empty scores an empty corner, that is, not one reed , there are no questions, despite the fact that this is the third goalkeeper of dynamo kyiv, but here there are many chances, the shelter just shoots the goal, zu, who is now on fire, we know that he regularly scores for real madrid and now he also scored against dynamo kyiv. the kyivans had to use their advantage to

a great extent. initiative on himself and to a large extent impressed because he, unlike bcdin, scored a goal the only ball in the active vanat and looked promising enough in this match. well, shakhtar, but again, we see the productive shakhtar here, well, absolutely senseless penalty 600 that they are sitting took it, but the penalty was a var system, worked on this match, kateryna monzel appointed the theory, began to implement and not shrek pulls the ball away from the corner. good chances for dynamo kyiv with these chances, initially there theoretically in the dressing room, the coaching staff helped and then practically immediately after the break, dynamo kyiv won this ball from the standard and revived the status of the club and velika mira, everything started from scratch because after all after all, the psychological initiative was on