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russia scare with it the west sold engines for russian attack helicopters justified russia's attack on ukraine the sbu published the records of the telephone conversations of the president of the motor-sich plant, vyacheslav boguslaev, what does this revelation mean, the former finance minister of great britain, rishi sunak, the main contender for the post of prime minister british government. what is known about him, look at svoboda life. congratulations, this is freedom lime. my name is vlasta lazur. we pray live on the pages of radio svoboda on facebook and on youtube, as well as on the air of the espresso tv channel. if you watch us on the internet, do not forget to subscribe to the pages of radio svoboda and put likes the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine dmytro kuleba officially invited the international atomic energy agency to send a mission to ukraine to refute

moscow's statements about the alleged development of a dirty bomb for the past two days, russia has been persistently scaring the west , in particular, that ukraine is allegedly preparing to detonate a dirty bomb, russian defense minister serhiy shoigu said over the weekend that he called the defense ministers of four nato countries about the alleged plans of ukraine , he did not provide any evidence, but this whole story raises the question why russia is spreading this information about how the world reacted to shoigu's calls and how his statements about the dirty bomb were received in the west. this is a dirty bomb no, it is not a projectile smeared with mud, that is what they call an explosive device in which , in addition to the explosive charge, there are also radioactive elements, and when it explodes, these particles spread with a shock wave over large areas, which contaminates the territory with radioactive dirt, so

here is the minister of defense of russia shoigu made several phone calls to his european colleagues during the last day, in particular, in a conversation with the french minister of defense sebastien le cornet , the russian minister accused kyiv of a possible the use of such a dirty bomb, similar accusations towards kyiv were made by him during telephone conversations with the defense ministers of great britain, the united states and turkey, immediately after these conversations, the minister of foreign affairs of france, great britain and the united states made a joint statement , the defense ministers of each of our countries spoke with the minister of defense of russia, sergei shoigu, at his request, our countries made it clear that we all reject russia 's blatantly false accusations that ukraine is preparing to use dirty bomb on its own territory, the world will consider any attempt to use this accusation as a pretext for escalation, and after a conversation with the secretary of state anthony blinkin, the head of the ukrainian foreign ministry mitrolyba wrote in his twitter dispersing

the wave of disinformation, the russian federation may be looking for an excuse for false flag operations, meanwhile, the minister of defense of ukraine in the same twitter he wrote that he spoke with the colleagues with whom shoigu spoke and responded to the accusations of the russian federation; colleagues informed me about their conversations with the russian minister of defense, i answered all the fake accusations, this is an act of nuclear blackmail by russia, i repeat once again ukraine is open to all monitoring missions, the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi also answered the accusations of the cage in his next address when today the russian minister of the crown arranges a telephone carousel and will call foreign ministers with stories everyone understands everything well about the so-called dirty nuclear bomb. who is the source of everything dirty that can be imagined in this war in the american institute for the study of war? shoigu's statement about the dirty bomb is intimidation and

a continuation of russia's long-standing information campaign, according to researchers, it was the russian state media that first disseminated this information. the analysis also states that russia is resorting to such actions against the background of the kremlin's military failures on the battlefield. of the political leadership of the kremlin, in particular , we will talk about the dirty bomb , taras zokhtenko, an expert on national security problems, candidate of political sciences, joins the broadcast good evening, more information every hour and more recently, the press secretary of the president of russia piskovska told journalists that there is a threat of using a dirty bomb and he says it to his face. this is how he commented on the statement of four countries that did not believe his words in connection with all this rhetoric about dirty bomb, what actions can russia really take

, what is it preparing for when it spreads such statements, well, of course, these statements perform two functions , in fact, in russian politics and propaganda strategies, the first function is a continuation, so to speak talk about the old narratives about the fact that ukraine is trying to restore its own nuclear program and because it is impossible to get access to the appropriate technologies and regain its nuclear arsenal, so to speak, whether tactical or strategic, the ukrainian leadership is considering another this is for ourselves, this is, well, working out the technology of the dirty bomb, and thus regaining our nuclear status, we could still celebrate all these things before the beginning of the russian full-scale invasion. that is, it was one one of the meetings in which he allowed russian propaganda, including to justify this aggressive policy in relation to the ukrainian state and in relation to the ukrainian government and the ukrainian people, on the other hand, now

starting from the situation that exists on the front, which is developing for russia in the first place in the southern direction, it is obvious that the russian military and political leadership needs to avoid those political mistakes that were made during the retreat of russian troops from the kharkiv direction and during the fiasco of the russian army in in the lyman direction, when in principle, in the information space of the russian regime , there were no compensators of any kind that could adjust the negativity of what is happening at the front, so for today, these moments are in order to first of all divert attention the public of its society from these failures at the front, on the other hand, it is obvious that it is being tested. thus, the reaction of russian society itself and the reaction of the west, including to such accusations and accordingly the russian regime is considering various options for action because well, in uh, well, in this, in this accusation

that ukraine is preparing some kind of action with the detonation of a so-called drinking bomb in it, well, it is quite good from the point of view of the russian logic of uh, terrorist for example, a sabotage of the kakhovsky hpp is being invested in order to stop, relatively speaking, this potential act of ukrainian tourism, that is, it is obvious that russia is now monitoring the reaction of its own society and ukraine and, first of all, of western countries, and is choosing for itself a course of action which way to her it will be the best and the most extreme to cover up your fiasco in the southern direction from the point of view and the policy of propaganda actions of the russian regime can be clarified once again dirty bomb is what is meant this is this atomic bomb is a weapon a number of types of weapons are meant there, can you explain uh, if you speak in simple words, uh, a dirt bomb is, well, uh, an analogue of nuclear weapons for

the poor, yes. that is, relatively speaking, it is an ordinary explosive device, but with a fairly large power but in addition to ordinary explosives, it also contains certain radioactive elements that can be either spent nuclear fuel or other remnants of even civilian use of nuclear nuclear energy, and accordingly, when detonated by an ordinary explosive device, these are those of an ordinary bomb, the effect of radiation is achieved contamination of a certain territory, well, due to the spread of just an ordinary explosive wave of these radioactive elements, which are also, well, let's say , added to this device. well, that's actually what it is a dirty bomb is a condition that has been considered for ten years as a so-called dream of international terrorist movements that do not have access to modern and more traditional nuclear weapons technology, and accordingly, dirty bombs are one of the ways that non - terrorist movements can relatively speaking, to compensate for the lack

of such access and the lack of the ability to carry out terrorist attacks with the help of nuclear weapons, which can be depending on the power of the explosive device itself, that is, everything here depends on how much is available conventionally speaking of conventional explosives and also how much is available of this radioactive material that will have to be spread, so to speak, through this explosion, that is, well here it is, depending on the availability of the first and second components, the radii can be very different in russia is told that when russia says that ukraine is going to use a dirty bomb, and judging by their rhetoric, they say that ukraine will do it and the civilian population will suffer because of it, they say we are warning you, so they are scaring us. it is possible. you should be prepared for the fact that they can use this so-called dirty bomb precisely in some such location where there is a civilian population with the russians. you must be ready for anything. especially

since it is obvious that their stay, for example , at the chernobyl nuclear power plant is theoretically possible . to bring with them the fact that they took certain samples of radioactive material from there, and in order to later prove, conditionally speaking, that in this potentially dirty bomb, which they may be planning to detonate, there were traces of those radioactive materials that er well, it can be traced back to a specific nuclear plant in ukraine, that is, theoretically it is possible in practice here. i think that a lot depended on what i heard in response er, well, during my conversations with western colleagues, primarily with the american colleague and it is obvious that well, there were two conversations, in fact , he had a grudge and it was after the first one that he rushed to call other western european partners of the united states, that is, it is obvious that the head of the pentagon well, just as in response to the usual nuclear blackmail of russia, yes, the threat of using tactical, non-strategic, nuclear weapons in a more traditional, traditional format.

i think that this is the same as the fact that he was voiced by certain warnings and certain rather harsh and rather straightforward warnings. well, accordingly, this forced the minister of defense of the russian federation put pressure on the european partners in the united states so that, relatively speaking, they put pressure on washington . kuleba invited the megate mission to ukraine, but in addition, he also mentioned the fourth paragraph of the persian memorandum, which precisely provides for a certain algorithm of actions if ukraine suffers from the use of nuclear weapons there, let's talk about it a little , first, what does this fourth paragraph mean in more detail , and secondly, to what extent it is realistic to sign the budapest memorandum of dispersion, we leave it in parentheses. the united states and great britain will mention the fourth point and in the event of such an attack, well, they will remember it and there will be some action, something the problem with the budapest memorandum

lies in the fact that all the wording contained in his article in several other articles are about what ukraine expects from security guarantors . none of the articles refers to the obligations of the signatories to any direct action, i.e. to, for example, the sending of troops to ukraine or to the provision of some well- defined financial, material or military-technical assistance, i.e., all the points that written in the budapest memorandum, they are reduced to the use of the un as an international platform, we are actually the un security council, and we undertake to sign, undertake to raise all the problems related to the violation of the security of ukraine , to bring these issues for consideration -e of the un security council, and we perfectly understand that well, in principle, eh, without eh, it is essentially blocked by the russian federation, it is the right of veto, so here i

think that of course it is good to appeal to the budapest memorandum from the point of view of the fact that it is a formal a reason to raise these issues and a formal reason to draw the attention of at least key western countries to these moments, but with regard to practical actions and practical steps of western countries to protect our country from such a threat, it is more likely that individual countries should be appealed to individually to our allies well, accordingly, i consider it absolutely correct to ask for a key organization that can now, at least in a formal moment, put all the dots over and taras zoftenko, an expert on national security issues, a candidate of political science was on radio liberty. well, then we have roman's report on the street from the front line. what does the daily work of the artillery brigade look like in support of the troops on the front line in donetsk region ? artillerymen use polish self-propelled guns? look, please run back.

they will shoot only your ears. cover the results. hmm, so far, we still don’t know what else we were working on. look, it’s free, it flies, we run away from them, when we shoot, i’m there, don’t hear the pilot somewhere, there’s no time to look at him, so we heard, we saw if outside the city the transfer is better if the free ones didn't let the rains be for us, it's better if the weather is like this, well, it's like you're

inside, and inside it's a bit bad to drive through the swamp once or twice, and it's going to them, it's charging gasoline , then he threw it out five, that's all, let the mood lie there it's warmer now, you can sleep and you often have to sleep all the time. well, we live there. we change there after

a couple of weeks, a month and a half, more became less , less because they wore a little, how much is there , one cucumber left ? the president of the motor sich corporation vyacheslav boguslaev , who was detained by the security service of ukraine two days ago on suspicion of collaboration and

aiding the aggressor state, has had russian citizenship since 2000, since then he has been elected as a people's deputy of ukraine four times and was a member of the verkhovna rada committee on national security and defense, which involved obtaining access to state secrets, this is evidenced by documents that are at the disposal of journalists of the radio svoboda scheme program, according to an extract from the passport system on october 15, 2000, vyacheslav boguslaev applied to the passport and visa department of internal affairs in moscow to receive a passport of a citizen of the russian federation in exchange for a soviet passport from 1979. vyacheslav boguslaev also has an individual tax number of a taxpayer in russia linked to his passport of a citizen of russia, this is confirmed through the website of the russian tax service. well, the day before the sbu detained boguslaev and the head of the department of foreign economic activities, motor sichi, both of them

a suspicion of collaborationism and assistance to the aggressor state was announced, according to the investigation materials, the suspects acted in collusion with representatives of the russian corporation russiah, which is close to the kremlin, which is one of the main manufacturers of weapons for the russian armed forces, and established channels for the illegal supply of wholesale batches of ukrainian aircraft engines to russia, received from motor russia used sichi products for the production and repair of russian attack helicopters vyacheslav boguslaev 83 years old, he was a deputy of the fifth in the sixth, seventh, and eighth convocations of the verkhovna rada, in particular, he was a member of the faction of the party of regions, and in the parliamentary elections in 2019, he again tried to enter the parliament, but in the constituency in zaporizhzhia he lost to a candidate from the servant of the people. listen, iskander m fell on the territory of the

plant, we are without any malicious ones, this is a 700 motor, absolutely everything, the press service of the department just claims that these conversations prove boguslaev's cooperation with russia, well, judging by the telephone fragments of the conversations you just listened to boguslaev, boguslaev justified russia's attack on ukraine well, in addition, there is already a statement from the motor sichi labor team they made a statement on the official website and it says that they consider the accusations against boguslaev to be outrageous motor builders are deeply disturbed by the detention of our manager on such outrageous suspicions, we believe that this is not the way to treat a person who has devoted his whole life to ukraine, who lives and works alongside us under daily shelling,

risking his own life, we sincerely believe in his innocence and have always trusted him as our leader , who cares about the bright future of unconquered ukraine, the domestic aircraft industry, about the fate of the enterprise and every engine builder. chooses a preventive measure for vyacheslav boguslaev and the judge has just decided to hold this session in closed session well, nevertheless, what does the case against boguslaev mean and can he for example, replenish the exchange fund like medvedchuk, or maybe some other prospects are waiting for him, let's talk about it. volodymyr fesenko , a political scientist, joins the broadcast. incidents from life or conversations involving boguslaev that took place there many years ago and even then they testified that he has very close ties with russia and rhetorically asked why

right now the sbu paid attention to boguslaev. well, today also information about his russian passport appeared, and indeed, why now? well, here are the versions. there may be different versions regarding relations with russia, i don't know if they will surprise you or not, but eh i just know about it because of some, i won't name the companies now, but the companies are big companies, and related, for example, to ukrainian aviation, and not only connections, well , until at least 2014, there were huge joint projects. well, for example, our aircraft manufacturers was built on well, they hoped to build a transport plane for russia, the russians refused this, but the connections were at different levels, that's the question, well, did the sbu monitor or not monitor the scheme that the sbu reported about, as

i understand it, it worked long before february 24 and the ban on the sale of hmm engines motor sich she was er, but she was bypassed, did they know about it or not, there are a lot of questions here, by the way, i also want to understand that it is not only about theology here. and here is this letter that you quoted, well, all the people who more less understood about how the following letters appear, this origin was organized by the management of this enterprise, the latter was prepared by specific people, and with a high probability, the management of the enterprise with boguslaev, there definitely worked many people who shared his views, and who may have chosen

to participate in the scheme. all this must be investigated and well, i'm afraid that there were similar cases. well, it's not only related to theology, it's just that sichi's attention to the motor was already great in chinese. so this scheme of alienation was stolen from her several years ago, but what could be the connections with russia, well, because of intermediaries , there were such assumptions, but for some reason they did not investigate, and not only there under the current government and under the previous ones. we also investigated, so there are questions, i think that there was a cover-up or corruption worked, unfortunately, this is the method that works most effectively in our country. different vlads, so this is a very telling example. on the one hand, i'm not surprised because, well, i've also heard about boguslaev's pro-russian views on, but uh, well, here's the question, where am i surprised, why did it only come out now? time for

an investigation was needed but everything is fine, unfortunately, this is just this case shows that the holes in the work of our special services were quite large. i want to add that today yuri butusov wrote that according to sources censor. not, the security service, at least he says since 2019 wiretapped boguslaeva and had evidence of his illegal connections with russia, as well as evidence of the supply of engines for russian combat helicopters, well, if this is true , then it turns out that in the highest government offices or in the highest offices of the security service, well, it was possible they are interested so that boguslaev's actions do not become known earlier, i can assume that in 2019 there were no connections or they were not eavesdropped, well, i am repelled by what yuriy butusov says, he has been saying since the 19th year. well, i understand yuriy, he has his own motives for joining the

current government. i tell you once again, unfortunately, this is not related to the government, but to the system itself, and let's have pro-russian views, unfortunately, they increased their representation in the parliament, well, in general, they did not receive information channels from 2019 earlier, and so on. the problem is more the system, if it's not a matter of political conjuncture, but precisely because, unfortunately, it's not only about one person and not because someone from a specific party was covering him up more and more systematically, that's a shame. and now it's necessary to reveal yes, let's go back to the party, too. i just wanted to ask you. and what might the future of boguslaev's ukrainian prison be like? could the prospect of an exchange like viktor medvedchuk prevail before him, and in general, does russia need such a person and is it profitable in ukraine to give him away? he probably knows a lot, in particular about aviation. well, maybe the investigation should decide

what kind of secrets he is, and how far he can be transferred to russia. i think that now there are not so many technological secrets. well, i think that he is there. well. it is possible if he had some technological secrets or that a significant part of it could have already been transferred, but uh, that's where the turnover is. well , this scheme, how did it work there, his connections at the company, and so on, here it's dangerous, that's why i'm saying here, er, you can't limit yourself to just investigation of the bogoslav case. this entire chain must be exposed at the enterprise itself. who was involved in this so that there would be no repetition of the hello ? to say here it is necessary to give complex zinc for because you know

about the question of whether it was worth exchanging medvedchuk for the azovs, i have an assessment, well, definitely in favor of the exchange according to boguslaevo, you have to see if there i will exchange another part of the azovs, er, for him and er, besides it will be clear that, in principle, there are big risks there or big secrets with boguslaev will not go to russia, well, then why not, you said that there is probably a big chain on the very engine of sich and people who came out in support of him among the leadership, in particular who may have held similar views with boguslaev and there were tangents to some schemes, but boguslaev also had good support in the verkhovna rada as well, as i observe. it is worth remembering january 21st, when do you remember that the sbu disrupted the sichi motor shareholders' meeting and then a whole group of people's deputies came to support boguslaev, in particular from the servant of the people, and among them was gennady kasai, who from the

very beginning in the parliament, and now we are showing him, is called boguslaev's man, and he himself works, for example, in the defense committee intelligence. i am talking about how many people could really be outside the sichi motor, who could be connected to boguslaev, focus on him. well, or whom he can drag with him or hand over to the court now, and these people can be in region, first of all that is why the people's deputy was mentioned. especially since he is a member of the parliamentary committee on defense and national security. and this committee will receive secret information marked secret. what was the influence there? they could, let's say, agree on something there, mutual ties, that's how our policy is built, you me, me you, you help me in

one matter. uh, that's why it's one thing, but if there are common views here. if this person was in this should be investigated, and then there should be a decision accordingly. the fact that some deputies got to the verkhovna rada with a dubious political position , and there were a lot of personnel errors in 2019, and there are even people who are not working in the president's office now, but who were involved in getting on the e-e list e-e in the hearing of the people about russian views or people like shevchenko and it is known what kind of person he is when he is still the first deputy. here the president is close to the moscow patriarchate. so this is a lesson for there were such problems in the future