they defended the triplets, well, it's the same thing, in fact, that is, i'm interested. well, there is a discussion about why they did it, someone says that it's not corruption ties , they owe each other. i don't think so. because it would be profitable for the corrupt to drain him, you drained him, you diverted attention from yourself, they got rid of themselves bread place head grater who with whom i where for corrupt officials this is an opportunity i think that among those 18 and three there is definitely more than one citizen of the russian federation in your opinion what should happen next and is it possible to bring bohdan lviv to justice, what kind of responsibility is this responsibility should be this great question. why am i happy with the final on the semi-final of the story because he was fired by the chairman of the supreme court, yes, the

economic cassation. he didn't do that well, you could put a cross on the supreme court well, because they sneezed illegally, it would have been if they hadn't fired well, and they didn't understand the constitution on the constitution on the law profiles and and seeds are the norm, but thank god the problem with his judiciary was resolved within the supreme court, that's all the court could do. thank god, we are moving on. it seems to me that the president would have citizenship against him. okay, there would be an option. well, because this is the first precedent, it is not clear whether to take away or not to take away , since the president took away citizenship in similar situations, there is already experience. well, that's why you can't take it there and leave it here, that's why it seems to me that the president, i would not look for his place while the petition gathers votes, there is quite a bit left. yes, i think. well, this is a matter of two or three

days, and then i think it would be right to take away citizenship for a long time, but to punish for, well, in fact, for entering unreliable data in the declaration this is another story of information. you are right, this is a parallel track that nabu is currently engaged in regarding the actual failure to enter information in the declaration and this is simply a separate criminal story already in the criminal process, but let's summarize lviv everything, that is, it already affects the person, yes , bohdan lviv, eh, two things are important to me right now, half of the economic cassation. well, we understand that this is an inadequate story and they are there. it’s up to the judge, why is this economic beauty so important, because it is the most important for business, because everyone is new this is where all the raiding takes place. this is where a little bit of cassation advice is happening. but mainly this is where the last instance is. there is no one there yet, and it’s about business. if half of the court is going to sneeze

directly at the provisions of the constitution, then what kind of investor is here? something will happen. that's why we need to deal with this, we need to clean up these guys, and secondly, the sbu should understand itself. how did it happen that they left a citizen of the russian federation at the head of an entire section of the court, he is not the only one there and not only in the supreme court, that is, if there it is a hole, it can be assumed that it is in many places , that is why the sbu should repair the process so that it does not happen again and check other officials. another interesting epic ended at the end of july. almost two years with the appointment the head of the specialized anti-corruption prosecutor's office, and i remember in one of the interviews with one of the publications, you put the responsibility for delaying this process on the head of the competition commission for the election of the head of the sap, kateryna koval, and then

you even had a post on social networks about the fact that we in the central committee that is, in the anti-corruption center, we will not forget you, ladies, when we forgot, we forgot, we had a fair war , we had it once for six months. to find out who continues to order services from a person who buried the reputation of the whole country for two years. thank you for reminding me honestly because of the war, because of the service, we forgot. thank you. thank god, thank god that we have an active body and we are not asking the ukrainian authorities not to repeat the history of the anti-corruption bureau. and what should be done to avoid repeating such delays with the competition?

the optimist specifically, the procedure in the law must be changed and it will be done. it seems to me that by the end of this year it will be one of the demands of our european partners. yes, i foresee the second story with the anti-corruption bureau there is calmer because there is a commission of six people not 11 - 6- three of you are internationals - this is half of the commission with an impeccable reputation and they have the predominant voice , that is, if the three three from the ukrainian authorities somewhere behave inappropriately, i think that this will not happen, but if suddenly they votes will calmly hold the contest less, however, the contest was held as the new head of the specialized anti-corruption prosecutor's office , oleksandr klymenko was appointed as the newly appointed general prosecutor, mr. kostin, and what has changed in the work of the specialized anti-corruption prosecutor's office since the appointment of klimenty, if

you would evaluate the results of these few months of his work. it seems like a month and a half, i'll tell you, see rotterdam plus one of the biggest corruption schemes in the history of ukraine, 40 billion in short what is rotterdam about plus you and i overpaid for utility services because they wrote a formula according to which the delivery of energy carriers was calculated as if it was from rotterdam and it was from the occupied territories in short, this case was closed four times four times four times we fought back in in the courts in a different way, the former general prosecutor e.e. defended the prosecutor who closed the case with one word, a new head of the garden came, the case went to court, full stop, the investigation is over and now in court we will figure out who is wrong in public hearings, first of all, in front of the whole country , but the epic is over with the closure of the case, the

court will deal with it . let's move on, suspicion has been handed over to the poor guy who didn't have time to go to the forest, he is a deputy who is the voice of the people, a very influential deputy, by the way . went to court or the biggest season, the case will go on saturday. what happened next? kolomoiskyi rotterdam plus trukhin. there was something else in addition to the current cases in the center of energy . 35 i'm sorry, they are fighting and they need to be returned

to work now, because this is a third of the prosecutors, and this is the best prosecutor, and now this is a separate story, imagine they will return 10 best prosecutors, the dynamics will be completely different, believe me completely different is even better well, the position of the chairman of the nabu director of the nabu is important, after all, this is a law enforcement agency and in such organizations, leadership is important, there are procedures, corporate culture is a strong structure, a strong institution, but leadership is important , that is, is it possible to conclude that these two months that mr. klymenko in the position of a-a, you characterize the positive dynamics in his work , in general, in his work, he is a specialized anti-corruption prosecutor's office, extremely effective, now it is obvious to everyone why was he blocked for so long appointment and this is only the beginning and we have already seen several attacks on the powers of anti-corruption institutions. i think they will not be the last, they will continue, what are you waiting for? well, besides what

has already happened. in these two months, how loud are possible investigations? i like the anti-corruption prosecutor's office, they are not they speak until the moment of implementation, that is, we will learn about their investigation only when the suspicion is served. i believe that this is correct. there are many abuses of corruption around you, and this is often abused by the authorities of the republic of belarus. he is abusing the price baby, he is abusing that they have already charged the suspect with billions of schemes, that one is guilty, that one friends, come on, if someone is guilty or you think so, it is your right to suspect communication and this is the right strategy of law enforcement agencies. i simply call on everyone else to get over this practice until there is no suspicion, then open your mouths there is a suspicion , it's normal, because there, why can you talk about the suspicion publicly, because there is a preventive measure and it will still be a court, that is, this is already a public part of the case. before

that, dear law enforcement officers, i'm sorry, shut up because you haven't collected anything yet, and someone's reputation has already been destroyed. let's go without this, are there any investigation cases on which, in your opinion, the corruption authorities are stalling? suspects because it is done through the prosecutor general and i am not yet certain about the prosecutor general's ukrainian, we are still looking into why what worries you, i don't have any markers in him. when he did things and what is going on contrary to the will of the political elite, i am not saying that he is bad if i don't know. we have several marker things, events for which we will evaluate the prosecutor general, so far they have not come to them. i remember one of the markers that alerted you, it was also

for the position of prosecutor general they appointed a deputy from the ruling faction of the ruling party, this is a marker , it is wrong in principle, that is, it is a marker that at the start gave a person a minus in the reputation of trust, even if kostin is cool and i hope he is cool, we assume that for his colleagues on in the west, he is perceived as a political protege , even if he is not, he is so pro-government , he starts such a beginning. this is the beginning of the content , and we need now a plus to the prosecutor general, not even in the history of corruption, in the history of crimes, reprimanding russia for war crimes. therefore, this is a bad story in principle, a bad story when the prosecutor general is a political appointment, it must be a competition, the best does not win. and then he won the competition and he starts with a plus, he is the winner, he does not owe anything to anyone, he is a professional, the position itself needs such logic

it's not about the last name, it's about the logic of the position , so in the anti-corruption strategy, which is a law in ukraine, it seems to me that there is a clause on changing the law on prosecutors' offices, which will include a competition . of the national anti-corruption bureau, and this is one of the requirements of the european union in order for us to retain the status of a candidate for membership of the european union, and there is another requirement - the introduction of the reform of the constitutional court of ukraine and the provision of a transparent process for the selection of judges, in your opinion, is everything smooth now with these two issues with the nabu contest and the contest for the member of the susu, uh, there is some such commission, we know all the names, it is moving somewhere, in the next week or two, the start of the collection of

documents will be announced from the candidates, i.e. honestly from the nabu i am calm so far there was one attempt by the authorities and to make the contest controlled by not the authorities part of the ruling team it seems to me from what i see in the field that the president hit his head and this story was there, international partners got involved, the media got involved, the president got involved, i was forced to, it seems to me that i am calmer here with the ksu, it is more difficult because there was a law that seems to regulate this procedure for the election of judges, the draft law , i apologize, my dear, what is the problem with this draft law a-a it is not bad, it is not bad that is, it is better than now 100%. simply , the european union will assess whether we have fulfilled this point based on whether the adopted law will comply with the recommendations of the nazi commission, the conclusion of the committee on the integration of ukraine to of the european union in relation to this draft law, the draft law does not contradict international legal obligations in the field of european integration, i am

sincere to our committee, to the european union, to our committee. i am very sorry, our committee is much less important than the venice commission . -e civil society there was simply a tool e-e drg of public integrity involved in the competition commission should be did they recommend because i watched the conclusion of the nazi commission and they use such phrases, i could also include and you can also use the experience, well, look how i think it would be better to include this recommendation in one form or another so as not to open a discussion, because when you open a discussion, a field is created for opponents. my advice would be do not, in principle, create a side for discussions against our european integration, the parliament is not obliged to fulfill this

advertisement verbatim. they gave several options for the office of the president for the parliament. how can it be done? my advice should be taken into account in one way or another. we will see if it will be taken into account. it has been several months since the law was passed that allows the confiscation of the property of russian oligarchs located in ukraine, but this is the first such decision. heard at the beginning of september, when the higher anti-corruption court made a decision to confiscate the assets of yevtushenko, one of the richest people in russia . months of a full-scale war of russia against ukraine look, i'm an optimist, i already remember it because we didn't hear, we didn't hear media society society media western apartments began to write waiting for

these cases waiting for this when the appropriate decisions will be made they started asking the authorities and where are the friends and since good last friday, the national security council adopted the first, well, adopted a large package of such sanctions, it tells us about 1,300 entities, among which there are russian oligarchs, who have a lot of property, friedbenderibaska forests, it is not a lot all, but the majority, if it is true, well, sources tell me that it is really true, then we are waiting for a presidential decree, which puts the decision of the national security council into effect, it will be in this decree. well, maybe the end of this week, maybe the beginning of the next. of justice and where are they and the corruption court takes away property and there is property if i include it when the nsdc includes everything, then it is approximately 2.5-2 billion dollars with us, that is, this process has begun, we will see which of the president or there will be

names clear well, they confirm to us all sides what is really the most interesting thing under sanctions is the first step, because 2 billion is a lot, there are 300 billion lying in the usa for which we have to fight. to take away among them the property of russian oligarchs in the west, private property that god himself ordered to take away, and one of the main obstacles in our advocacy in the west to take away this property was friends well, you take it to yourself so you take it to yourself first and then tell us, oh glory to god, this confiscation has begun, if everything goes well , we expect that lawsuits will be filed in the anti-corruption court in a month, in a month he will be there for another 20 days, the development of 30 - that's two months, we will have a whole lot

of confiscated property, and now that we have these information devices, we returned to the discussion with our western friends in the eighth month of the war, will there be anything to confiscate considering the fact that the russian oligarchs had quite a lot of time to decide what to do with the assets that are in ukraine, this is a great question and we forced this question with this question power to move in this process because i also do not understand why it took so long the law that is allowed to be made is the fifth month, the fifth during this time, neither the subjects of the sbu submission, the national bank, the office of the president, the verkhovna rada, the cabinet of ministers did not hurry with this story, because who to submit was already done and not this one was conducted legally they did not submit they submitted at the end or during this time the assets could change

owners could the assets of murayev changed a few more we can already see what we changed but here it will be difficult to catch up but the optimist will take a lot well we recorded for ourselves which assets we found, which ones changed owners, and we will ask these four subjects of the submission what happened. the assets will go to the ukrainian, there is a great question, what is the logic, the court says we will take it away after that, the cabinet of ministers determines who deals with the assets, it may not be a specialized agency, we have an agency for the management of seized property, now with what bunch

problems, a lot of problems, i would not give them the property. now i will tell you frankly, but it does not depend on the fireplace, or the fireplace can give the property to the state property management fund, which was headed by panomer and to whom i have great respect, and whose results say that it seems to me that he will be able to manage us effectively what about this property depends on the property, on the asset, for example, the huge ocean plaza in kyiv, where the lease has already been bought, where the constant profit is already dripping, it is opening, just the other day, literally, if we probably sell longer history well, because it is necessary. well, this is preparation for sale. they sold it. they drip into the budget. we don't want to sell. they froze it. they gave it to the army for storage . and it will be a separate communication with the

cabinet . on february 24, as of the beginning of september, ukraine already received international aid for 17 and a half billion billion dollars, and we understand that this is not the end. in your opinion, how effective is the control over the use of this aid now? it is a good question. historically, as an organization, we have difficult relations with any - by which government is it normal for us to talk about the bad and not the good , our institutional function, from what we see now, i will be as frank as possible. the government does not steal from the budget, because 60% of it is formed there is an understanding with western money that if we start

stealing here now, we simply will not keep western money, and without this money there is nothing to pay salaries to military fathers. that is, it is money that allows us to live and fight. does this mean that they are not stealing? no, it does not mean that they are trying to form parallel financial flows, so that they can be sprayed in something. but the most important thing is the large schemes of theft from the budget, which producer is filled with western donors, there is no highest level, at the highest level, we are now talking about small-scale there will always be a lot and this is good news, this means that in the political elite, at least in the key people, i understand what cannot be done, what is the problem, we see that these attempts to create parallel streams are difficult to reach, i say so, they have not yet become systemic, but they are difficult in that on the other

hand, i have a request for political ethics, friends . stop. now, i am not even talking about any valuable stories. it is impossible to explain to congressmen that this money was given and stolen. well, it is not exactly from the budget, it is cash flow generated by a state enterprise part of the property of which is not state-owned, you take a loan to yourself, that’s why, friends, i’m begging you directly, don’t do it now, it’s not necessary. i mean parliamentary control , it is possible to strengthen public control, to strengthen it, to give more powers to civil society to control this money , western control is possible, let's understand together what kind

of control we have, for example , civil society society in the media and she was, well, in the law enforcement system, we see a crime committed, civil society sees what is happening on the ground anyway, and i don't mind that when we already see a crime, it's all a problem because we saw it, we have to talk about it and not we will implement it and it affects the country, what can be done in order to use these powers to prevent this crime as openly as possible, this is our long-standing discussion about the format of the security service of ukraine, why is the service not effective in its current format because she combines two worldviews of different functions, they are law enforcement officers and the special service, and there is a difference in outlook between

them . at the level of having planned a crime, that's the job, he was not doing it, but it should have been done, and the reform of the sbu was needed two years before the war, when he talked about it, they quarreled with the authorities. to be like this all the more the clinic is fighting vitaly , forgive me for calling you that, but for me, in a certain way, you are such a horseman of the apocalypse in the fight against corruption riding on the center of anti-corruption but how did you just get to the point that you are engaged in the fight against corruption, what does that matter to you it has been a long time, such a value and discussion, i did not plan, in short, well, no one planned anything, i did not plan to be a tv presenter, i worked for a long time as a consultant for the ukrainian polissia

about this or with people's deputies, helping them in fact, in how to convert political influence into real changes in that work, i saw that in ukraine there is corruption in all countries, this is true even in the usa, it is simply somewhere, it is an exception in ukraine, it was not just a rule, but a goal with the means of politics. politics was for the sake of corruption and by way of corruption in such a history, the country did not survive, well , effectively and it will not be accurate. well, it so happened that i realized that part of the realization of my vocation , why i am here, why i live, is to work in this field. in short, i did not plan. i understood well how difficult a task it will be because i was inside the process, i saw how it was all built, we were the same, they, we were so sick in the head that

in the 13th year, at the beginning of the 13th year, we initiated cases against the peckish people against the peckish people at that time in austria, i will tell you that they did not kill us, that they did not understand who is behind us, some kind of football , who is behind them, and while they were dealing with the revolution of dignity, and everything went through, i understood that you are not going to leave this battlefield yet, let's fight until end well, so far there is a lot of work unfortunately, well, then i wish you success in that. thank you vitaly for this conversation, it was very interesting. thank you. glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes. glory to the third hospital in mariupol. darkness is around and spring will be a golden sea of ​​rye. barefoot children will be grass. we

will live with you because there will still be a lot of work. by day, let them burn with the fire of the dreams of those who will sprout from the enemy's pockets, we have many plans, written wars, we will live for them, we will live remembering everyone, this year itself promises to be the most difficult in the years of independence of critical infrastructure, so we have to prepare for the most difficult scenarios . it will be difficult to keep the heat in the heat and the houses, but

do not borrow the fighting spirit from the ukrainians, think about the conditions, a safe source of heat. this winter , everyone should be responsible . charge them with power banks and stock up on food, water and warm clothes for this friend's neighbors as a group it's easier to beat the enemy with azim support the armed forces thanks to them we have the opportunity to meet this winter and so far no well, neither enemies nor the cold are scary, we hold on to each other, we will overcome the winter together, the rules of a warm

country. this winter, not a single house is from the edge of the country, and the cities are doing everything possible to give cheerful warmth. about alternative means of heating, draw up an action plan in an extreme situation, help each other, let's beat the winter together a-a