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. putin did not succeed, that is why he chose a strategy to freeze, but this time he will not succeed despite his infrastructural and energy terrorism, but how to prepare to a difficult winter and what you need to know how to provide for your life in conditions when the light and water and heat will be turned off. you need to know this, you need to talk about it, that's why this broadcast of the night watch this is exactly what maria vasylivna yevhen kuksin is talking about in the studio. i am yevgeny plinskyi. we have an energy and housing and communal services expert oleg popenko as a guest. we are glad to see you on the air of good day. well, ukrainians are such a nation that you cannot call very confused in principle. we are here. we have such cases

when a banker with cucumbers was shot down by drones, although this is of course a fable, in fact, it was tomatoes, but is this confidence until you are in your own home, so suddenly you look around? and it’s not just that the switch does not work, so then you you go to the faucet there to wash yourself for some reason the water doesn't flow and for some reason it suddenly gets cold so you also open up and you wonder what is going on and what should i do tomorrow this is a little upsetting and it is upsetting even more than any the prospects of the apocalyptic scenario that we have here literally discussed almost every program actually discuss let's immediately draw for us this this this this thesis about a difficult winter for ukrainians, what it can be, how can we understand it now because we understand that incomprehension and darkness frighten us the most, but

when we start to understand something, it becomes a little easier , i wouldn't even say what a difficult winter is. no , it's not just difficult. it's extremely difficult. teplokomunenergo is extremely badly repaired, because, well, for the sake of understanding, we have 18,100 km of heat networks, of which about 14,000 km need immediate capital repair, and they were repaired very, very little because they did not invest money from local funds in them and somewhere around 85-87 percent of the water supply networks also need immediate major repairs, we are always arbitrarily talking about this absolutely accurately, and now there is nothing for this whole problem, that in our state

, the equipment needs everything else for all this, constant shelling and training were given from the side of the russian federation, rockets, bombs, these are all kamikades for drones, they destroy, well, in addition, they destroy not only teplokomunenergo there, but all others, they destroy the energy infrastructure, in fact, we are currently producing electricity but we can't redistribute it, the problem is that they destroyed uh, well, according to the data of the ministry of energy and according to the data of what they call the minister's office , 18 objects are called there, uh, that's actually our entire majority, our entire electrical uh, ukrainian energy system that is why there is a problem, and the same water supply without electricity cannot work, heat supply without water cannot be a residential building for them, and electricity is actually the only backup source of power , that is, if there is no heat, the person who walks turns it on

an ordinary heater and in this case they are hitting the electric grid to completely er leave us without electricity and how apocalyptic this scenario can be this winter if they continue these attacks we see that not at all not at all not everywhere 100%, but still they manage to knock out significant capacities for our energy industry, or could there be such a scenario that the whole of ukraine will one day be left without electricity , without heat, without water, and so on. well, all of ukraine will definitely not be left without electricity. i want it is impossible to pacify everyone so that the entire country will be left without electricity, there will be partial outages today as well as tomorrow as well as the day after tomorrow these outages will be in a month or two in six months it is possible and more because i do not think that the russian federation will stop with

its shelling, they will continue to strike on transformer substations for production, it will not stop in them, they have installed a network, if we remember the last speech of our neighbor, not to the president, what did he say? we have 29 objects, we didn't hit all of them, but the task is set, we will destroy them. i think they will not stop, so we, as consumers, must be prepared for the fact that the situation will be extremely difficult, but our energy system can quickly replace some components that were damaged with these attacks, what security margin do our energy companies have, or are they only trained for such planned work and simply will not be able to quickly replace it? are destroying which are destroying russian missiles drones all

the others are in order to replace the transformer substation repair it replace it from time to time and some stock of transformer substations we have ukrenergo and oblenergo which spare parts are available but you understand that there is no such scale physically that is why there is an appeal and funds are coming from japan from other countries in order to build a new transformer substation. it will take about six months, at least, so there is a question of destruction if the russians continue to hit our infrastructure even more in this the situation in some region may be without electricity for a week or more, that's it. well, the bitter side of the war that the russian federation has unleashed against us, and we must be ready for this, there are many more recommendations. when such theses,

as you know, a full-scale invasion seemed to many are fantastic and at the level of forecasts that were there last year, but even then they started talking about the fact that basic strategic things must be protected from shelling, and in particular hypermarket in ukraine yes, they still do. before this invasion, they equipped their entrances with large concrete blocks, we even saw that, well, i'm sorry. this example is not from russian energy facilities, so all around there are concrete blocks that take at least a little bit of impact when you see the official photos that we have. well, according to the results of the damage , yes, there is an ordinary construction fence around, and this fence is an ordinary mesh, and that’s all. i kept the second question, because, well, we understand that the question is more rhetorical, and

now the thesis is being raised that in general , it is possible to look at the experience of the same european countries, so the distribution systems are stored not on the ground, but underground. which of these options is more appropriate would be for us, but taking into account the condition that it is already necessary not for tomorrow not for today i was yesterday yesterday we definitely won't do it let 's be honest because for today we have to disconnect the transformer substation and put it underground, how is it done? well, in switzerland, there is not a single transformer substation on the ground. they are all underground in germany. the program is to completely put all transformer stations underground by the 32nd year. by the 32nd year, all of poland is completely underground. the czech republic is currently going through the same stage. they are all that. that is, it is a multi-year program, it is a multi-year program that basically works in other countries, we will not be able to do it now, install the blocks well,

for sure it would be better to decide there as an option yes, today, if we are repairing a transformer substation there, then we should put out blocks, uh, whether they will save or not, that is better said by the energy experts themselves, but as an option. well, as we can see in the russian federation . it may be closed as an option, but we should have thought about it 15 and 20 years ago. by the way, in ukraine , the program of transferring all transformer substations underground has existed since 2006. no, wait , write a program for ukraine, and also a strategy the results of the development of the program are allocated money. let's have a military discussion. unfortunately, these are very irrelevant today. moreover, we have

entire libraries of these programs that you know about. and even before the war, preparation for the heating season, especially in the localities, yes. it was a great stress, great sorrow for all the communities in the localities, because in recent years, mayors in personal communication said that we are just hoping for a miracle because the same worn out in the network so that it is only a matter of time when they could even well, i apologize for the word explode by themselves and under these conditions i just think it is very important to emphasize now yes when we have and without russian aggression yes we have a great threat to these heating network here. you know, this is again a rhetorical question, but every person wonders . and what should i do in these conditions when there are so many factors, such as a rocket attack, a drone, worn out networks, all this does not depend on me, on a person who simply lives in his own apartment or

well, so many people ask the question, what do you tell people to do in these conditions, what to do first of all, and we divide several categories of people who live in an apartment building, who live in the private sector. if you have savings in the private sector, you can now , by the way, the prices are very have really increased for generators for everything, but having funds, i said this three and four or five months ago, buy a generator, buy a solid fuel boiler, a stock of gasoline or diesel fuel, there is a stock of 30-50 liters of firewood the program is good through the otg or through the regional through the district military administrations, because the district there is the state administration, there is a program, you can order firewood and, in principle, a person in the private sector

can survive this heating season normally. they handed it over to people in 2015 without capital repairs, they gave it like that, they dropped it, as if it were a reform in the housing stock, they actually did not comply with the law, well, by the way, we return yes to the programs to the laws that were not implemented in ukraine before the war, it is fundamental, but it is necessary to understand that the housing stock is the second level of security, together with water utilities , together with teplokomunenergo and everything. but no one even returned to this question. bomb shelters and shelters in the city of kyiv for 8 months of war, and the local authorities suddenly found out for themselves that we do not have a lot of bomb shelters in kyiv and people really have nowhere to run because they show it on video. tape

the red one is written mmm tell me yes yes storage there is a barn lock and it is written sports sports hall private long ago privatized you understand yes and here is the question of the private multi-apartment fund they have not been repaired this time why are they not repaired because the person who lives in the apartment has lost heat that it needs to be done, it goes, it includes, well, the wind, the air conditioner, well, what does it have, heaters in general, does it feel like you have experience , it includes, and further, that there was a fire even last year, hundreds of fires during this period can be seen statistics, hundreds of a burned down in their apartment, and he is a doctor of science, she is also a doctor of science, some very prominent ukrainians. unfortunately, i did not remember

the last name. and people are on fire at the doctor’s office because the network can’t stand it. and how can it stand anything now when i’m sorry, first of all, are they turning off the heating right now? has the heating connection just started? the coldness of our kyiv city administration said that this is why they turn on the heating, that people started warming up with air conditioners and heaters and the consumption of electricity for the economy increased sharply. well, we are exactly the opposite because people are freezing and they don't want to freeze and they don't even want to know what i'm waiting for because ahead everything can be much worse than the apartment yes, the light goes out in your house, well, it would be nice to have a light, you can sit there, yes, that is, for a while there, for a few hours, but your water supply stops working, yes then you open the faucet, nothing comes out, and i'm sorry

, you can't flush the water in the toilet, you can't, uh, cook food because you only have electricity in the old houses, in the new ones, everything is electric in the past, and you look at your apartment like that and what do you think i'm doing here and what am i supposed to do and there are many multi-story dark towers around stoyanci and you understand that these are some kind of apocalyptic movies that you see when people open their apartments everyone goes out into the yard together and looks, well, at the same time, i see all the time from my windows, how they burn with bright light at night, the inter-floor transitions, where there are stairs for common use in 20-story buildings , so, so brightly, these candles stand and burn all night, these stairwells where people do not go because when there is electricity, the elevators work accordingly and

no one goes to the 20th floor just for the sake of sports , it would be possible to turn it off, but i don’t know the local condominium or some manager in this house is not considered necessary. there is also a school across from me, which is just like new year’s eve for everyone tree it shines with all these lights all night and i see it all night everywhere through the window because i don't know maybe the watchman there is scary at night he is afraid of the dark why is it turned off in the classrooms, but on these hidden stairs this light is burning brightly everywhere and despite the fact that people turn off traffic lights in kiev, i think it is very dangerous. but at the same time, they turn on oil heaters, it is at the level of each of us, and they turn on the lighting of these completely unnecessary interfloor spaces where no one needs it, because well, probably because you just have to think and go somewhere, press some kind of switch, our summary is so long to the question of whether it is

really possible to prepare an apartment in a multi-storey building for this winter in conditions when you will have no electricity, you will have no water, you will have no heating and you have to be ready as of yesterday, again, it is absolutely true, this is an absolutely clear thesis , we had to prepare in the spring because this scenario that we are discussing with you was understood by me personally in the spring that they are admissions yes yes they heard who wanted to rest let's go in order. by the way, the important thing is that they said that the sewage system will not work without electricity, and this is the main problem, not even the lack of heat and not the lack of water. there will be no heat. they drained the water from the heating system, shut it off, and left the house. you will not be able to stay in the house because all this will stop. that is, it is a huge problem that must be worked on by water utilities, but at the level

of others, you need to think about it. these are pumps that they work on electricity, which pump this substance and ensure its movement, and there will be no energy, it will not work, the second thing you said about the lighting of common areas is a huge topic . well, no one wants to listen to understand that the lighting of public places is, on average, one and a half to two percent of the total electricity consumption in ukraine, if only a little bit we started investing in energy efficiency at the state level, just like that with a real program, these ilyich light bulbs that are in old houses were replaced with led lamps, we uh, by 20-25%, we would consume less per year. here is the saving of electricity, the load on the network and

on everything else, but unfortunately, we have at least 50,000 houses in ukraine in which there are these old ilyich light bulbs and incandescent bulbs and which consume a huge amount of electricity for which they pay, which in principle well, it could be less and these, well, these i do not understand, but honestly, they are odes, i have no words why this is not done why on the level cities of management companies, why not transfer these buildings with communal ownership to the states into private ownership, let there be a competition in all cities and to put control, well, now there is no energy supervision. to conduct energy supervision in all countries, there is energy supervision in ukraine and the will, in fact , it does not exist, and this is also well it is in volumes, it is tens of billions of hryvnias annually, which opa is enlightening, it is not clear what these are, here are two such important theses. you see how we are solving the issue

of communal economy, the economy is catching up with us in war conditions, another huge thesis is that we we didn't decide, we didn't prepare because, well, it's like a security question, but it's not a question that hasn't been asked. well, then i decided, and now they are completely in putin's hands today, which he is trying to pressure the ukrainians to raise their hands, which i'm afraid, you know, besides the fact that we all obvious inconveniences await. i'm still afraid that somewhere they will simply burst en masse. these pipes, as you remember, the terrible story of volchevsky happened and now. it it's impossible, you can do it in any way, at least drain your house, i don't know, drain the water from the battery there, or do something if such a situation occurs. well, in order to avoid such a scenario, then let's start from the very beginning, the first thing you need to do is to make it in the house

or, better yet, the ride was older, that is, people should unite among themselves, that is, understanding the problem , unfortunately, people do not unite in the house, well , it is not only in ukraine, uh, in most countries, people who live in apartment buildings, so i united there in a cooperative in germany it is 12%. we have 100% of people who do it in private property, but they don't understand the responsibility for their own. that's why you need to be late or choose an older person at the entrance. if the house is small , in an older house, why is communication information ? she will not understand for a long time how many days there will be no heat, then the plumber is called there, the plumber is called, the plumber is the management company, because the water drains, the communications are blocked, people leave the

house, but at the same time, all the communications of the house it remains vital, the winter is over. people have returned to the house, moved in, filed for those , electricians and plumbers have arrived, checked the condition of the house, and we are starting to turn around. and i can already imagine my neighbors who will start screaming, and i have nowhere to go. and so on and so on and this will not be the end of the year, questions to the local authorities have provided the power to submit housing codes to ours , here are the codes written, what else do we have, and the housing code of the national economy, but that's all decommunization is a really good question, but even at the level of the kmda, they recognized it and told people directly that the quote of the week is that we may not have the necessary resources for life from the point of view of civil danger - this is already a threat, which can already

be interpreted as what if in your at home , your house in the winter is not what they are for life in theory, you said yes and you evacuate and here is a good question, who should do it, when and where ? the routes must already be prepared, the evacuation has been agreed upon, and by the way, for example, there was nothing in kramatorsk back in the spring, and i already wrote kramatorsk, get ready . met that is, it should not or where they brought a person sat down at the station should be cities where if it is in kyiv please public cities for heating at the level of a school at the level of a club at the level of a

gym where should generators be installed uh, big solid fuel boilers so that a person could stay there for at least some period of time, leaving the repair. by the way, in kyiv, the heating season last year in houses started on december 30, that is, to understand the kyiv problem, uh, well, this is this, this is the process which every year we recorded in the center of kyiv, a building in the podilskyi district. yes, it was right around the time of december. then we made a material, where people together with people recorded with a camera, we went with them to the managing company, the managing company developed by hand i sent it to the district administration, they went to the district administration of the district administration , it was already redirected to the central apparatus, and to the central apparatus i transferred the hooking company, and so on and so forth, but the key result is that the people were also atypical. and local authorities

are needed on the basis of schools, there are kindergartens, we have a large number of sports facilities in kyiv, and some exhibition complexes, centers need to create infrastructure right now in order to local residents who live nearby yes when he says excuse me for a week, there will be no light or water in your area what should people do, people have the opportunity to walk to a certain place and spend at least a day or two there so as not to get cold and not to sit in a concrete box that has nothing, that is to say, to ensure that the authorities still haven't given a damn about the fact that we have no toilets at the metro stations, which have been serving as bomb shelters for 8 months now, so how are people supposed to spend a day and a half a day and a night there if there are none free toilet and i literally caught my eye on the news that people wrote a petition

to our mayor with a request to equip such toilets at the metro stations of the war story, it was allegedly not clear yes, but it is precisely for local self-government bodies that they dream of such problems how is it now in kyiv that there is no toilet, yes , we remember summer, preparation for the school season, yes, where are the local self-government bodies, yes, they should equip elementary bomb shelters in educational institutions, yes, and when the question arises as to how to arrange it like this, the local self- government bodies find out that first of all, who is the owner of this bomb shelter? elementary school prepares the school for the educational institution, but the school does not know from the documents whether it was mandatory that somehow it turned out that way. and the second question arises, and it turns out that there is money in the local budget even elementary to buy there, but i won’t call the city that whitewashing materials for plaster, just put it in order. also, there was no opportunity to buy money, and

it’s not that um, some non-professionals or some people who don't care. they want to. yes, they can't, and this is also real, which must also be accepted. well, the main thing for us now is not to go into such a solid criticism of this problem, because i think that we can remind the authorities and local authorities of a lot of things and reprimand everyone for because they did not do anything, but our task seems to me to look for ways to solve these problems, when you talked about the fact that it is possible to create these points and heating centers on the basis of schools, i can even see that boilers have been installed, some water containers have been installed biotoilets, a person can come and spend some time there, and this issue should be discussed and asked to the local authorities, why this is not done, the second question, we now hear everyone talking, prepare for winter, prepare for winter, and what we see. yes, what are people doing? we have already touched on the topic of heaters, people are bought en masse