all of this was destroyed, including by the hands of some of our politicians, but they destroyed it, that's why we gave them the opportunity to make all possible compromises in order to live with the neighbor normally. what was putin's answer to this, already, it's a war against ukraine, don't believe him, it's because of powerlessness the fact that he says that is a good sign, it means that no one listens to his arguments anymore, a bad sign is that a person like him will never get out of this predicament, he will die with it. convince us we will not change it no way, these are elements of a psychological approach that you will not change, these people stop only in front of strength. there will be no more games because any of your weakness will be perceived by him as an invitation to

his actions to aggression. i used to say, in the 90s, i worked trying to find some normal relations with russia, it's not ukraine , it 's not. he loses ground under his feet and it is necessary to knock this ground out from under his feet, mr. valery, about the world's strongmen, about china, about the united states of america, yesterday signem reported that cia director william burns visited ukraine in early october to meet with zelenskyi and others officials, well, there are various comments of military experts in ukraine, er, no one was present at this meeting, but they are trying to at least assume what exactly the

director of the central intelligence agency could have said to the leader of the ukrainian state, they say about the fact that he came simply to warn the ukrainian leadership that russia could use nuclear weapons , er, you said that it is unlikely to happen because , er, the way they are doing now and the way putin is speaking shows that he was both a goblin and will remain a gopnik, well, briefly summarizing what you said, after all, according to you, did moscow refuse to use even tactical nuclear weapons, or is the argument of the americans to putin that we will kill you so that they will not talk about it anymore, several questions were immediately raised first of all, the visit of the head of the cia, they uh well, i won't say that this is something extraordinary, because these visits have

been made before, although the goal is absolutely clear to transfer some uh, not just confidential, but really very sensitive information directly to the president of ukraine. well, and instead, get first- hand information about the situation, about our capabilities, and in order to simply adjust the tactics of actions in the near future, i don't think that hm. we'll say that, we have to guess. and what was discussed there, well, what's the point for us to guess come up with what was discussed there, that is, it is clear that the whole range of issues is being discussed there, now that's why i would treat it well, not until such an event that emphasizes the nuclear threat, that's for sure , there is absolutely no connection here. now, regarding the threat

, i'm not saying that the gopniks don't use any means no, they just don't use them in case there is an answer to threats, nuclear blackmail was not the first time for us. i remember march. it was the maximum escalation of the situation with nuclear blackmail. those channels which are used by the states literally the other day it was said by the secretary of defense of the united states what why is he talking to shoigu well because the communication channels must be maintained sorry you didn't talk for five months and everything was fine and now the channel is in communication it is necessary to maintain you have a direct connection to the nuclear threats, especially the selection, that is, it is clear that it is not only the manifested threats of russia, it is necessary, uh, i can make a guess to what i already said, that this is an effort, uh, to push as much as possible to truce

i think that they are still seriously talking about what to do with the large group on the right bank of the dnieper, now they are rotating it, they are trying to somehow hold on there, yes , the number of people there has increased, but they understand that strategically they will be forced sooner or later... it is necessary to come out like this in order to save this group, that is, i think that if the military talks, they talk about such things, well, i don’t think, i know, they talk about such things that, well, they will save life there, what is it called, that is, they have their own the conversations that you have in the editors, that is, in short press releases, no one will tell you, well, after that, the calls go to kyiv and we have an exchange with our partners

regarding these conversations. he also mentions a bunch of threats in the near future, for example, let's predict like this, in the coming days they will say that ukraine is planning not just a dirty bomb, but to detonate something over chernobyl or even chernobyl to do something or another day, that is, they will still be to tell about it to the manuals that we remember from 2008, even earlier, after er, 2005, er, such maidan of the orange revolution, russia began to write all these manuals and this scenario about the dirty bomb , about the explosion at chernobyl and about the iskander, which pivdenmash made a mockup of and then it was blown up specially in the chernobyl zone to blame russia and so on, but then it will be visible in poland and over this europe, read it in 2008, the

russian intelligence leaked its plans, well, they will suffer because of the article well, you can google this one the article is a mechanical orange, it seems they were called 2008, they just take it, i say that it is most likely a pso informational psychological operation that they take those things that have been lying around for a long time and think that they have already forgotten them well, let's use them again and i'll tell you again if we have the national security and defense council, the apparatus of the national security and defense council, threats are analyzed there, i would work there myself, i know there is a hierarchy of threats today, the threat of destruction of ukraine's economy, deprivation of opportunities in ukraine is normal i don’t even want to function. no one is perceived as intimidation there, but this is reality. if you destroy, for example, the electrical system more than

today . make a reserve for three days a week let you gradually take your time , it will be another month, it will be another month, they will not make it so quickly, but make such a reserve for yourself so that you are independent from these unexpected changes in the situation that they won't be able to bring all the water to kyiv from europe. yes , it is necessary. well, we can go further, but it is obvious to the enemy, but for us, i wonder why. until now , we have well, some things are not done, i don't want to talk about it anymore, i don't understand why us why us we only react, why do we have a reactive position, why do we not think for a month or two ahead, why did our partners not

give us air defense when we asked? your transmission is our official one representatives do not make mistakes with air defense when we are now given popov it is too late and already half of the infrastructure is broken, well 30%. give us planes operational-tactical missiles now so that the same thing does not happen again and until these strategies are changed we will take a step back a step behind our armed forces came took a step forward kharkiv they made this strategic initiative we need to support it at the level the entire state should be not only the military cabinet , now the prime minister should sit together with everyone involved in determining the situation, how not to simply react, how to close holes, and how to beat the russians, how to beat them for this period of 2-3 months tactically, these should be strategists, institutes, strategic institutes we have analysts in general, we have someone

who is now analyzing two steps ahead or we react only to each blow, the next one. sorry for the emotions. well, i just know. there are no such discussions that would talk about the strategy for the spring. well, about the strategy in our conditions, at least for the spring , planning what scenarios, how to react in what way that is, everything from the wheels, yes, it is a war, and it is obvious, well, a large-scale war, no one is ready for it, but i am emphasizing the priorities now, again, not a nuclear threat. but there are threats, and russia will put pressure on it first of all, and you will not put the light on us alone for approximately well, look, they are the same as us, they don’t want to just pollute us, just like this is about a dirty bomb, so that they are the same, and in these conditions, we will simply be crushed by our economy in this. we should not allow valeria when we talk about the future scenario about opportunity scenarios about the strategy that

the current ukrainian government should make public or at least at least discuss. the question arises, what is the cat going to do with russia in general, because it is not clear? well, for example, this topic with a dirty bomb appeared. they immediately want to discuss it on on the podium of the un, there was a topic about some kind of biological biolaboratories, they downloaded this topic, if i'm not mistaken, since the 14th year that the laboratories of the united states of america are located on the territory of ukraine, they want to consider it at the radbezion when the world will finally tell putin to listen. well, we've had enough of the urban fudge because what's happening is, well, he just has all the fools on this planet. when he's weak, it's not him, but his

regime that's so weak that they'll be brave and so far, that's all you think. they don't understand, they understand very well, they don't want their countries to directly enter this war, and they understand very well that the war will end, well , the russian war against ukraine a week after the entry , uh, not even too much, but a coalition of countries, for example there the united states, great britain, poland, there will be no war in a week, but from the point of view of their country's interests, their citizens and voters say that it is impossible for our country to get involved in a war, that is, direct participation in our community . i mean the coalition of countries led by the usa and a week and there is not a single russian boot on our territory because

we have a component of the armed forces of ukraine, and they have what our armed forces lack: strategic aviation, precision missiles, a nuclear component, and then the whole and putin, putin will simply retreat immediately, well, all attempts will stop, i will tell you more, i believe they said and will say the country well, countries like our neighbors there and poland, the same is possible, some may be the usa, britain, they will not avoid a direct collision, they will not avoid that that all of putin's logic leads to this, that is, what he is doing. he certainly does not want this collision, they will not be avoided, but he is 100% sure that it will not happen, that he will intimidate and it will not happen. only he,

if it happens, only then everything is coming to an end because the logic and plans of strategic russia are completely broken. well, but for now, i say that the danger is not to go to it, and not only to it, but many people suggest that in this paradigm, that's why i rely very much on the meeting between china and the united states at the highest level i hope that it will take place in november in indonesia, and then we will see possible changes. even india is not reacting as well as before. brazil is not reacting as well , that is, some steps are already being taken, but very slowly . our problem is that we are all happening on in our territory, our biggest problem is that we had to stand first at the outpost when i say to us i am talking about the armed forces first of all, but i am talking about the ukrainian people who are also suffering

from this war, who are also suffering and enduring this attack. and this is what we do, well, that's what happened, we couldn't do it any other way. because he went after us, even though he could have gone after putin and the whole top of them. they could have gone to another country, so it happened that they went after us, although this was putin's biggest mistake, he went to ukraine who pushed him to do it? i think that if he hasn't figured it out yet, he will have to seriously figure it out, that he perfectly understands that this is the kind of trap he fell into, and the only way is for him, you know, to get out of the trap, which is not yet closed . at first he tries to jump out of this, uh, some kind of box and stand on the heads of others to look for a hole , but when he already understands that the rats will

jump until the last one, he will not give up, he will jump until he falls powerless to the bottom of this box, this is the only way, let's hope on this and on this note, i wish the rat to fall to the bottom and not get out of this trap, we will finish our program. thank you, mr. valery. this was valery chalyi, a politician-diplomat, ambassador extraordinary and plenipotentiary of ukraine to the united states of america 2015-2019 , friends, if you watch us now on youtube and facebook, like this video so that it can be promoted in the trends of youtube and facebook , and there is a special button on youtube called sponsor, you can click on this button to help develop our youtube channel just click, select a sponsorship package and you will help our great work, our joint

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we are leaving the reserve studio and let me remind you that there is an air alert throughout the country, but we follow the safety rules, we must find a safe place and watch espresso , a program on self-government. my name is anna valevska i congratulate you, i remind you that it is in this program that we talk about what kind of cool ukrainians you and i are, and i am convinced that it is strong local self-government that became the basis of ukrainian resistance. yes, they took kyiv in three days when the first communities met the enemy and continue to hold the main a blow because volunteer formations were formed precisely on the basis of tergromats, that is, ukrainians themselves decided to take up arms and went to defend their village, city, settlement from the enemy, this is a solid foundation of our statehood and our

self-defense of our survival, we will continue to talk about territorial communities, about great ukrainians from small villages, towns, and how now they have taken on new functions, new responsibilities and are trying to respond to new challenges, which undoubtedly makes us all stronger , today i would like to talk about security because this word was of special importance after the war, it was security that became the most important thing for everyone. well, this is exactly what was not there before at the level of communities, remember there the state emergency services and fire department, district police department, all this was at the level of the district of the region. and now, after the reform of local self-government, the communities themselves have been given the opportunity to take on the security function, and it is very important how they do it, because they can implement some new initiatives. i

will remind you that self-government is a special feature and talent of ukrainians is that we are trying to make the system the basis of the state system, because there is no such thing in russia, for example, ukrainians can come together to agree and make russians, each for himself they are waiting for the tsar to give the slaves an attitude of what to do , that is why we develop our knack for self-government survival and talk about important things, such as security. i would like to look at the example of cherkasy region . in one of the communities there, the fire fighters project started, or have other communities continued this? today we will ask our guests of firefighters - this is when residents of communities voluntarily become members of fire brigades, we know that now firefighters

perform a very important function, they start human conditions because all arrivals are not accompanied by fires and limitless thanks to the firefighters for doing their job. i invite serhiy slynka to the conversation - he is the head of yulia's regional office from europe in the cherkasy region p serhii, i congratulate you, i will hear you now and i hope good day once again good day, you see anxiety in us that's why we in reserve such bunker studios, we are leaving, but no anxiety will prevent us from talking about reforms and how we , how we have already become cool, how we should develop in the future. the communities are now taking over the project with the firefighters of the zolotonissk community. is this a pilot project or the first one, how did they start? and what now, anna? you

noticed very well that due to the reforms of local self-government, the so-called decentralization of power in the people, the communities got more powers, more opportunities to solve security problems issues at their own level and actively began to create as voluntary formations of territorial communities for the protection of security and order, which are now gaining new importance in the conditions of martial law, as well as voluntary fire brigades, volunteer fire brigades, in particular. they work in different forms. somewhere, it is financed very well by communities that have better funding opportunities, and somewhere, it is completely volunteered. these voluntary fire brigades do not replace the functions of the emergency services . they work in close cooperation, we have conducted training somewhere, the emergency department provides the necessary materials, again due to

their capabilities, and volunteers are ready to help professional firefighters and during in an emergency situation or to localize an emergency fire and provide first aid before the arrival of professional firemen or professional medics really anna, this topic is very popular in cherkasy and in particular in ukraine, it is very popular and more than 2009 - there were communities willing to take part in the fire fighters program that was mentioned, but in the process some communities were weeded out, some communities were more motivated, more active, so currently 20 communities are receiving assistance, including financial and practical training within the framework of this project, in particular, two of them

in cherkasy region, it is clear that it was already mentioned and will be in schenka now, it is funding from foreign donors , they are helping, it is mainly funding from poland, cherkasy region tylova seemed to be in the region, and on the other hand, everyone is under threat, and the drones of these kamikazes and missiles ago recently, 5 days ago, you had arrivals there, you can already say, how did these units justify themselves, or are they just starting to work, uh, anna well, they have long shown their effectiveness, they have shown their effectiveness because cherkasy is an agrarian region and the population density is not so high, because of that it was a very long road to some settlements, it is more than 20 km, sometimes before the arrival of the fire brigade from the district center or with one

community center, so they are just voluntary fire brigades, they were just protecting the safety of the fire department in their localities and also performed a preventive function. if we talk about how they work, well, we know that the fire department comes and deploys this ladder in them there hoses and how do the volunteers work, what do they have, what are they, they are buckets, but it is definitely a question. i will say a few words about the experience that i saw for the first time in poland when i came there and we talked with the head of the community, you are pus there in their case and the siren worked i asked what it was, and the head answered that it was a fire siren. everything is fine. now the volunteers are converging. they are going to put out a forest fire, because now is the season of forest fires. it really literally passed. well, a maximum of one and a half minutes worked. another siren that signaled that the fire brigade

had left to put out the fire in them. it was so that part of the staff was on staff. these are mainly drivers, those who took care of the cars, those who took care of all the necessary equipment needed for the fire, and the human factor is volunteers who got together and got lost there in a minute and a half and quickly got into these cars and went to localize the actual fire that we have now for an operation on a similar clip where there is an opportunity to finance in communities in local self-government bodies part of the staff who will be attached to all the equipment, that is, the main staff who will be on 24-hour duty and will be able to quickly inform the volunteers to come together and help the professional firefighters put out this fire. there are also cases when these are completely volunteers, for example, this is literally the latest

news good ukraine, because in cherkasy oblast, the first firefighting team of nuns was created on the basis of one of the local monasteries, where three nuns became volunteers working with them in a team two drivers, and they ensured the safety of the fire station. let's say so, and their area of ​​responsibility was 9 neighboring villages, since the nearest fire station was about 20 km away, that is, these are people who, you know, are not financially motivated , but motivated to save and the property of their monastery and are ready to help residents of neighboring villages in localizing the fires that

they have . in mantiagasyat e-e in case of a fire, the task here is for the volunteers to know not to start a fire. it's clear that they have safety devices, but sometimes you don't necessarily know. well, it's enough to start a fire right there. well, it's great. this is a great example of such initiative. and how do community residents actively participate in to that point, to the point that you have to go and help, if in poland this system of volunteer firefighters is very popular and it is very prestigious to be such a firefighter, then it is still gaining popularity in our country, but in the context of the great activation of the population during military actions to protect their territories. i see that

local authorities are actively working on the topic of voluntary fire brigades so that the activity that people have now is directed to helping the military with the help of volunteers so that it is further transformed into squads of volunteer fire brigade teams when the war ends and also of stable territorial defense teams on the ground that will ensure public order already in the peaceful post-war period, that is, the main function is to start something before the professional ones arrive to do correctly, which i know, then, if we are talking about a distance of 20 km, then by the time the professional firefighters arrive, they will already record the facts that the fire is localized, what