i use them on batteries. i say, listen, i'll go deaf while you warm up , we have such problems, everyone gets out of it in their own way, but in fact, it works poorly with neighbors, as well as bourgeois apartment owners, well, what other things should not be done, should not be given and what , on the contrary, is worth giving a series of your advice, considering that fortunately in our country, the main source of additional heating in the apartments of apartment buildings is essentially electricity is it for heating with the help of an air conditioner is it e for heating with with the help of a single, well, if only an electric heater of some type, this is no longer the case a-and it is important a-and it is forbidden to use an open flame, we can make things worse for ourselves and others. then at least this is the issue of heating and maintaining the temperature inside our apartments, it will be

at least partially possible to completely remove it, and then we have the main consumers, this is essentially an electric boiler, the main thing is installed so again, advice if you have a centralized hot water supply system to use it instead of using an electric boiler so that we are talking about saving electricity and power uh-uh this is uh-uh there are correct dishwashers or they are there again they can be postponed uh- washing there for different times, it is possible to use modes with a lower temperature, that is, at the same time, there will be less consumption of gas for heating. a bad option because, again, there is a certain amount of harmful gases, that is, the most careful so-called gas, which can lead to uh,

very in a number of cases, even long -term cases, uh, the same thing can be said about the use of a gasoline generator in the apartment and some kind of electronics for electricity and for powering the sea of ​​its own network well, again, coming back, how can we look again, yes, these are power banks, these are uninterruptible power supply systems on batteries that is, in principle, let's assume the pace of the apartments and allow order there. let's say that the consumers are brave enough to hold on. they are unlikely to save a few hours there. in cities, that is, it can work well. thus , that is, again, if we are talking about

some type of preheating, most of our houses have a certain inertial so-called this nominal heat will be enough there for a couple of hours, that is, just the peak to pass, that is, if we either manually turn on these things or set timers, which are relatively inexpensive, in order to eliminate the human factor and if we do not miss the moment of switching on and off, that is, it is allowed and the system is unloaded and who has a two-zone so-called electricity meter? well, even save a little bit. by the way, after all these events, we have to talk about energy efficiency and modernization again, because the system can't work. since you have repeatedly said that everything works in order to burn my gas as much as possible, that is, now we have to save electricity, we have to somehow redistribute this resource, but in fact we burn

more gas, like my neighbor who lives in fans , this gas has been in the room to warm up for a long time but let's start at least now it's a specific case well, it applies to i think it mainly applies to entrepreneurs because if you take our consumers as ordinary ukrainians in houses and apartments, well, we're warming up, you can see right away because they buy there from the same retailers, and they specifically say that in recent weeks the demand for power banks, candles, gas cylinders, sweaters and blankets has increased in recent weeks, that is, we understand that ukrainians are trying to keep warm by all available methods permitted by law p vadim thank you for joining our broadcast er vadim lytvyn, the chairman of the board of the association of energy auditors of ukraine was with us via skypez, but

he remains with us in the studio er maksym gardus, i will remind you that maksym is with us er expert forum cabinet of ministers of ukraine so we will also add information on regions and reduction of consumption , i.e. saving electricity, that is what ukrenergo called the regions of ukraine that save the most in the last day. the volyn region has reduced the use of electricity by almost 17%, and khmelnytskyi has managed to save 15% there. »

or outdoor lighting at 5:00 p.m., the city already saves electricity, our colleague valeriya holodova went on a raid from the city inspection with public works to find out if everyone follows the new the introduction of turning off the outdoor lighting in restaurants, shops and cafes at 5 p.m. the employees of the public works inspection give the employees of the establishments another hour and then go on raids, mainly in most establishments they comply with the new requirements, but there are also violators and savings. you turned off your support, please tell me how it happened that you have a violation here, we just forgot about it , we turn it off every evening, i'm sorry, it never turns on

today, only uh, right now, it turned off directly in similar raids, the city public works inspectorate has been carrying out since october 20, during this time, it identified almost 70 violators, and all of them were given requirements to turn off outdoor lighting. find it is necessary if this advertisement is not legal and there will be e-e in order to save electricity, all street lighting in dnipro is turned off at 7 p.m. maxime, the question is, if at the beginning of this block of conversations about power system work, we talked about the fact that it was a recommendation to turn off the lights, the consequences of this raid could be something simple. hmm, calls and

appeals to the conscience of entrepreneurs. only to advise people in apartments to save money , because well, we are not a totalitarian state, we don't have uh, uh, 20 million inspectors who will go around the houses and control the kettles . business, this is more of a normative act. and for example , then with consumption in the regions, we see that some industrial objects also apply to educational ones, for example, the rivne plant of nitrogen fertilizers . at the level of people, it’s just not very convenient. well, at the level of industry, it’s a big loss for the economy, because this is a loss. people

come for part-time wages, no products are produced, they don’t even get exported, they don’t get foreign exchange earnings for experts anyway other a hm, that is, the inconvenience is not only that it is not possible. in the morning, you spend a kettle on conveniences , that electricity is needed for business to make money, but unfortunately, this is such a time that it is a joint responsibility distributed to everyone and to people and to business, well, you said about joint responsibility, now i would like to add to our broadcast volodymyr omelchenko , director of the energy programs of the razumkov center, vladimir. of ukrainians, because when i looked out the window during peak hours, the house is different from the house, in fact, well, as for solidarity, there is an opportunity to say

such calls for equality, but there are technical nuances , yes, is it possible for everyone today disconnect evenly throughout the country, well, of course , there are no such technical possibilities, that's why it is included. well, for example, if some institutions there or some houses are located on the network with strategic objects, yes, that is why they cannot be disconnected there or not in the first place those objects that consume the most on those lines are turned off. yes, and because this is important in order to reduce the peak load . well, i think what should be done, because i, as a fan of the cause and effect relationship, want to explain to people why is it impossible when they together decide to use several

electrical appliances in their lives why is it impossible to stop everything very quickly because an atom, let's say well, it can not stop in a matter of minutes right let's explain what produces energy and what is more difficult to adjust because it is clear that these peaks i want, especially at this time when 30% of the power system is damaged, i want to somehow adjust and forecast their work, let’s give the basic things, i understand what for you as for a quiet person, these are such things well, maybe funny things, but if the population understands this , then maybe they will be included in this process of saving, well yes, the consumption schedule is already uneven throughout the day. everyone understands that. yes, and especially the consumption burns occur in the morning hours and in the evening hours, as a rule, from six o'clock there to 10:00 to 11 o'clock. what happens that in this period people come home and turn on their

electrical appliances and the percentage increases by 10-15 there by 20% of its consumption of electrical energy, this means that more power should be supplied to the electrical network and more work should be done in energy units yes and er in the conditions when 30% of our infrastructure is damaged, including heat generation and power transmission line substations, it can be said that such a situation will occur when the system simply cannot withstand, it will not have enough power and as a result there will be an emergency shutdown, this is the first thing and why. because we cannot, for example, we have a base load, nuclear generation can withstand nuclear generation, nuclear generation provides nuclear generation, nuclear generation

is not flexible in our country, it cannot flexibly buy to increase demand, and that is why it is necessary to include thermal blocks in order to ensure this peak in the morning and evening hours. and it's warm. and you know that the problem with heat generation is walking on them. at the same time, it must be said that the russian troops. they are probably they are consulting with some russian energy companies , they are not fighting so much at the thermal stations themselves, because they are difficult to destroy, but they are fighting precisely at the power delivery points, which are open, yes, yes, yes, which are easier to destroy, but it is not easier for this consumer to become in order to ensure normal energy supply, to provide an additional load

on thermal generation, which, because there is currently no surplus of this capacity, citizens are asked to limit consumption precisely during peak hours, because if citizens do not do this voluntarily, then they will be restricted simply in emergency mode, and this is much worse, it is better to plan your day, your daily routine so that you use your appliances, e-e heaters, but we do not know washing machines, boilers in the right way, so that to work and then there will be fewer emergency shutdowns. i think absolutely everyone is interested in this, both energy companies and consumers. it is difficult to achieve because a very high level of self-awareness of citizens is needed here. but i think that we are gradually moving towards this, and in principle, in

principle, such a big global apocalypse of some kind is not foreseen. now , mr. volodymyr, the energy industry is working on the apocalypse, this is even taking into account the situation with blackmail by nuclear blackmail of the russian federation. in particular, i will remind you that we have problematic objects are the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant - this is the kakhovskaya gs, these are also types of electricity generation, and the kakhovskaya hpp. is presented in connection with the spill of water and we forget that the kakhovskaya hpp also generates electricity, including well, yes, the kakhovskaya hpp is important because it balances this

southern node and is located in the largest zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant in ukraine, and as you know that this nuclear power plant is not maneuverable, and in order to better maneuver before such an application, the kakhovka thermal power plant has a total capacity of about 340 mw , it is not so much, but it also allows so somehow we have to maneuver the power, this is such a very important case, yes, but again, the destruction of the kakhovskaya dam is, first of all, i emphasize, not so much an energy problem. well, it's much more

of a problem - it will be ecological, it will essentially be such a world-class disaster, if god forbid it happens, i hope it won't happen . hundreds of thousands of people live here, it’s really a disaster here, so to speak, not balancing electrical energy here is not the same as savings here, we need to somehow save people in the first place, and the problem is power maneuvering, we in this case will already move to the second floor when we are all the time, but within an hour we are talking about what ukrainians should save there is industry industry it consumes more or less stably enterprises, that is, the question is still the same. well, it happens that

when we talk about the approach to ecology there, they say that there are isolated deliberate cases, they do not affect the general situation, but here everyone's savings affect because consumers provide these jumps in electricity consumption. am i not right ? explain yes, but when there is a jump, as mr. volodymyr said, those objects that consume the most are turned off. that is, it is not only private residences, but also industrial objects, on the other hand, this is also the explanation of why some are not they turn it off because well, of course, the resident will start with whom he is on the same line, he sees geographically. this is my yard. and it is possible under the sanction that goes to that factory or to that military facility or transport hub. well, i know. i think that everyone can see in their yard because this house is on fire in my house, this one is not on fire. but you. well, it seems to us that

we are one yard. and the line can go through that house to that station. because it will be a transport collapse and uh geographically, we are close to the same supermarket , but from the point of view of the energy map, we are different. from the point of view of balancing, consumption must still take place. on energy facilities are part of the genocide of ukrainians, the minister of foreign affairs dmytro koleba emphasized this, he says that deliberate shelling of civilian infrastructure - these are war crimes, and given their systemic nature, they have to be considered as part of the russian genocide of the ukrainian people, according to him, currently

about 40% of the energy system has been damaged, the only way to stop putin is to provide maximum support to ukraine, in particular anti-aircraft defense systems and ammunition for them european energy commissioners cadre simson called on the governments and private companies of the european union to provide more funds on equipment for the energy sector of ukraine, the eu must react very quickly so that the damaged infrastructure in ukraine is repaired, she stressed, simpson reminded that under her commissariat, a fund to support the energy system of ukraine was created, which collected more than 20 million euros, another 10 million euros were provided by private companies, however , more money is needed to restore destroyed russia and energy facilities ukraine recent missile attacks by russia on ukraine were directed against the energy infrastructure and caused significant the destruction of 30% of ukrainian equipment such as transformers, fuses and power lines was destroyed, which led to

massive power outages extremely important for the european union to strengthen support and help eliminate these damages, it is about the protection and well-being of thousands and tens of thousands of households of people from the vulnerable population groups of children and the elderly against the background of the approaching winter, we will discuss this, mr. maksym, a question for you, how did it work in the studio, we understand that we need equipment, materials they are needed now in order to repair a-a in order to restore the electricity supply, but we need to act and more broadly, i am about the recognition of russia as a terrorist country, and in particular, in your opinion, will they go on this, the countries of the usa and europe, ukraine hopes that this respect will be resolved because of the priests, uh, that russia is a sponsor of realism, in principle, the discussion around this is not even going on, uh, now all

the reservations are in order to formally transfer such to uh, the status of russia they are only political and economic, because after the granting of such a status , economic activity from russia will become significantly more difficult , that is, those who are against such a status now, well, no one says openly against it, it is better to say that it is not in time, let's wait and study the issue, they are not doubt about terrorism itself russia they doubt and how will we trade abcde goods from russia after that because it will be banned and but uh, it has already been introduced in the congress, we hope for a vote in the near future congress of the united states of america and finally in in principle, it is enough that in the european parliament , there is also a fairly broad discussion of this, and in principle, the main parties, this european people's party, is the largest in europe, in principle, they

are inclined to vote for it, we hope that this will be resolved in the near future and this will accept this status, mr. volodymyr, the last question for you. when we are talking about the 20 million euros that were collected by the fund to support the energy system of ukraine with andrii geras, and before that they said that we first of all need transformer stations, what are the needs of the energy system at the moment when we are talking and about restoration and pro-synchronous modernization, because there is no point in changing the old soviet system for something just as old, that is, of course, we need to protect this system against air defense. well , unfortunately, we have some of them, you know transformers or soviet times, and we can only change them to old ones; moreover, they put if you put a new transformer on the old system , then this means that there will be a big trouble, that is, they explained, that is why it is necessary to look for these

transformers somewhere in the warehouses of the former soviet countries, the so-called camp and it is possible to find something. there is some equipment there, it is possible not only transformers there and cables there and switches and others, but again, you understand. understand that this is not a supermarket that you have come there took the goods, paid for the individual production of the product, and it must be ordered in advance, it is produced anywhere from three to nine months, so you understand the problem. well, i would also like to make such a proposal that it is possible for our authorities, they are listening, that it is possible to recommend to our you spoke to international partners about the status of a terrorist, if to warn russia, if there is an explosion of a dam there or a nuclear attack there,

that means yes, that means russia automatically declares itself a terrorist country and accordingly, the relevant sanctions are imposed. i think that this would be such a very powerful fuse and they would think 7 more times how or if it should be dealt with. thank you for the irreversible process and delay making this decision because then it will be absolutely irreversible as far as i could understand by studying this the topic ukrainian authorities can mean it recommend your decision thank you for joining our broadcast volodymyr omelchenko director of energy programs of the center razumkova was with us via skypez but in the studio with us maksym gardus of the expert office of reforms of the cabinet of ministers of ukraine, mr. maksym thank you, the broadcast of the general

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