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and for nato let's say so and in general for the countries of stable democracies, it is enough to mention, for example , the famine in the country of the factories there, until now we have not been able to break the opinion that it is not ukraine that is to blame for this famine, and russia is actually an informational work about what and how we need to act in an informative and informative way on the territory of russia. i will say that there is no recipe now. why because russia is currently a completely closed country, we do not know the quality of the composition of russian society. we only see some isolated outbreaks. rays where there are supposedly so-called good russians , this is how he promotes again the imperial narratives where they were not in russia or outside of it, this is a
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huge complex problem that can be solved , unfortunately, through physical er-er through physical action until then there will be a dismantling of the current political system, and this is not only putin 's political system, it goes down in history and into the soviet union and even deeper into tsarist russia and so on, and the political system has not actually changed all these years, its form has changed now it's called the russian federation de vla and putin's regime is dictatorial in its essence eh now even we still have hryhoriy and mr. hryhoriyovych do you hear us correctly so we understood that way explain what is currently happening to russian society or can we now talk about what now the main task of the putinists there is to create such an ideological
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basis for a new holy war, as they call it, well, first of all, let's talk about the fact that practically in the russian federation, under the leadership of putinism, there is no society, so there practically, there is a corporation, a corporation with statuses of different levels, that is, putins of different professions, we will say that why because precisely what is public has become for them an internal and external weapon, they use publicity to mobilize, incite and force to go to any aggression anywhere, and we can even see it with you people, what kind of people will we say, they do a lot so that they are not human and here
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to ukraine to kill with obsessive absurd theses, but they do it because there is no social action, no substitution, no analysis, no there is no understanding of the reality of the real world, and the world in this regard is a small enough group for the realities that exist in the world to know about it, and the citizens of the russian federation, by the way, we are talking about the fact that it is a conditional federation because there is no possibility and statehood that would hmm, i worked with society and this society was the essence because many social groups have left and those that exist practically perform the functions that were prepared for them by putin, so the question for them from us is that, first of
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all, we have to return to the historical basements for example, first of all, it is a matter of freedom and dignity, which orthodox muscovy of grundyaiv banned the sprinkler, they banned it and says today that it is necessary to replace his sacrifice, i.e. dying for what for what the regime dictates to them, on the other hand, there is no need to talk about what we are dealing with russians, russians or russians, we are dealing with a regime that today is already a terrorist regime, although we have been talking about it in our center since 14 years ago, the issue of the regime is the issue of the corporation that planned the social structure of the state
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all problems are at the level of weapons of mass destruction , so all issues require an adequate scale , as well as the issue of heimers or mlrs for the physical killing of putinites in ukraine, mr. valery. are trends such as religious or ethnic divisions in the russian corporation significant now ? as mr. hryhoriy says, because against the background of the mobilization, we saw problems in one component, both ethnically and religiously, and in what way these divisions can briefly shake russian society or a russian corporation or such hopes are actually whimsical and premature such hopes are it is not surprising that the current russian government, because on february 24, the vast
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majority supported the special military operation at this moment, we see that the mobilization led to great changes in russia itself, the most intelligent as it is customary to say that they left, and those who remain express their dissatisfaction with the fact that the religious factor is included now, why is it included in order to consolidate society, but you need to know that the russian rpc church, headed by it is not gundyaev's faith, it is a form, it is such a barracks in russia that has always existed, therefore, too much attention should be paid to this aspect, er, i would not become one, but the russian government is aware of the changes that are taking place now, and it is afraid of them, so it was literally er yesterday or the day before yesterday in sochi, a
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conference called dna of russia was opened, the name is very clear . during this conference, there will be a search for a new russian ideology, that is, what was it and what filled the minds of russians . new russian ideology will have several aspects, and in particular, there are four such a doctrine, where there will be a historical aspect, and this will be dealt with by medinsky, a figure who, by the way, there was a cultural code at the negotiations, the so-called director and tax collector petrovsky, by the way, a person who eh, lately she has been quite equal in favor of putin's dictatorship, such
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russian nazism. i would say that eh, then russia in the world, such a political scientist karaganu takes it upon himself to form and eh, the fourth block is an image of the future future of russia, one of my friends putin's kovalchuk will form it, that is, in all educational institutions, and knowing the inner workings of psychology, it can be assumed that mom from kindergarten can carry it to universities and so on, special disciplines of this program will be introduced of a new ideology, that is, the world from the kremlin's position is already sinking, it is necessary to form its new basements, and here i have already drawn attention to one more aspect, a decision was made at the department of journalism at
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the department of journalism, what about what do you say about it it is obvious that those er powers, although they are insane powers of putin's media propagandists, they no longer satisfy the needs of the kremlin, and there is a need to form new fighters, new units, and so on. you know that there are so-called military personnel . from various media that accompany the military units on the front lines, they are usually in the operational management of the authorities. but all the same, they sometimes allow themselves to say some things, especially related to the mobilization in what do you know? light criticism slips through.
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but it still slips through. it is obvious that the government wants to close this moment too. that is why they are looking for new forms, new approaches, new principles, and in fact, this new ideology, which is now called the new scientific communism. in russia, it is aimed precisely at this, mr. hryhoriy, and valeriy talks about what he asked about the warlords, but i have the impression that these warlords are beginning to serve various military clans there, on the one hand, there is wagner, all the beauties, then the ministry of defense lapin is another company, can we say that there is some kind of conflict between the security forces around putin , or are we exaggerating reality when we interpret what is happening in the russian federation precisely in the context of generals, putin, putin's entourage , military personnel, etc., etc., your accent is very correct, we exaggerate thanks to their power of this
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communicative commune of dominance, all these characters, when the conversation is about the fact that you are beautiful and forty, we will be able to talk to each other or, uh, conflict or fight there with the same kovalchuk will i soigu - it's all so that we are at the bottom because we talk about the fact that they are so big the first aspect the second aspect they adapt valery hryhorovych these are all the names valdavyte urology this is all a public weapon about the fact that putinism supposedly has a perspective for the millennium it's all a lie because and why it is now because they are on the verge of failure. and when we perceive what biology for a very long time and so on, we strengthen them, it's all hysteria because everything you are talking about
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now, they are doing it with warmongers soldiers - we will say this again, the question is the retention of attention and precisely the attention of fear, because the question of this generative monitoring of that technology is that, by the way, we have not transferred dynamic from linearity to dynamic processes, when we dominate, we generate, we impose, and in we have something , but it turns out that we look at what they say and refute it, and this is a big problem. well, mr. game, i will ask you then, in continuation of your thesis, here and there, we have to generate our content, our narratives , our agenda, so you can show how it is to make it clear to our viewers why we go on and on about russian propaganda when we
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talk about a dirty bomb, there is a wave and other examples of our actions that can be taken as a basis for the actions of our authorities or our partners in the fields of meetings with partners the usa is very simple, very simple. thank you for the question. the question is very accurate. see the question of the dirty e-bomb. the question is not correct at all. it is a question of nuclear materials that are now spreading around the world under the auspices of ukraine. or is ukraine not a bomb? not one action, but a process, the second question. why do n't we talk about what the goal is - it's a structure not for peace. how was it created, but already? practically today, the global light, therefore, the megatheme should be military units and special forces, e.e. these special response forces and the month
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of nuclear power in these nuclear facilities is not at the level of one or two, as we are now talking about pivdenniy yegor in zhovty vody and er, this enterprise where there may be nuclear technologies a on all of them, including, by the way, the chernobyl nuclear power plant that is, the question of reformatting what is. this is our problem, we have to talk about it, that the un should be in a state of war, the security council should be under the conditions, we will say, of the modern confrontation of civilization and outside the forces of civilization, that is, uh, he should draft proposals of a public content nature, so that it would be us let's talk helped expand and clarify the problems that
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only you and i see from the middle of kharkiv kyiv , or will we talk today about the raisin of this because everything you can understand that content, that is, communication means, we are content means of the constant process of modernity, and modernity, what is it daily because the pace of the day and not the week or the month, why? because the medium of content and communication today is air and it should be at the same pace ukrainian democratic and only putin 's, which we spit out or refute, valeriya, if i understand, let's say yes, well, these are the clear messages of mr. grigory what we are now living in the air of russian propaganda, this is how it turns out and when, relatively speaking we are talking about the nuclear bomb, other things, we are walking in the fairway of these topics produced by the russian federation, at the same time, i would also like
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to ask you a question, how can we shape the actual agenda, and on, on, on, for example, if we are talking about heroes, we suggested that megathet experts visit our facilities. although i think that mg experts know what is happening with our nuclear material and the impression is that this was some kind of half-step on the part of ukraine, perhaps there are more large-scale actions that allow us to put such a barrier in the way of these russian narrative proposals, of course we don't yet have them we don't have russian ensign standards, we are ukraine first of all and the world will also take its turn we will be in a state of war all the time because propaganda is war propaganda is such a powerful imposition that necessarily leads to the radicalization of society and of course leads to war, which we
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see on the example of russia and we see that uh now authoritarianism acquires populism and authoritarianism are two factors which play a big role in the world and this in fact, it can lead in the end to uh big changes to a big uh disobedience in the world emotional surges of changes of governments and so on uh uh that's why uh we must block neutralize neutralize this propaganda of russia in the world uh for we need to join forces with our er colleagues, because when the so-called fight against fakes is going on now, there are many structures that are engaged in the research of fakes, we draw them out on everyone and so on, and so on, we only continue with this. unfortunately, er e kremlin line we only give them the opportunity to become more
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powerful, broad, and so on, so neutralization, first of all, is not to pay attention to their propaganda messages for imposition, and so on. the more we give them platforms, the more we give them powerfully the more we talk about them , the more they are glorified and take the first positions to change the approach in general to the informational agenda and what we said at the beginning should form democratic countries, the democratic west should be formed by the president of this we not should appear three times in two days at the un with russia's narratives. if we stop this at the stage of the application, russia submitted an application. this application is not accepted because it realized that
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it is worthless, it is provocative, it is disinformation, and so on. this is already the first stage of neutralization and propaganda influence in russia. but before that, we need to convince our colleagues that it is necessary to start from this. it is not possible. the more they attack us with these and their initiatives, the more they will lead. information rating in the world, therefore it must be neutralized we must agree that serious and powerful things are being considered if russia constantly raises the same issues that lead to an imbalance in the work of the un in general and the security council in particular, well, this is a deliberate activity for the period of such a structure, we need mechanisms should work that would make it impossible for such a collapse from within powerful structures. well, further from this, go down the hierarchy. can we
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talk about the fact that now these russian negatives are actually connected to the dirty bomb in one way or another connected with the dynamics on the fronts, that russia is creating an informational background on which moscow wants to force there with foreign hands or foreign influence to force kyiv to negotiate or to pause on the fronts p grigoriyu what is your assessment of such a uh such a forecast almost almost exactly but would we in our center added a little higher, practically they now want to drown the military actions in such an international man-made mass armageddon, well, i would say so because it is not just a conversation, we talked with you and we add here that this topic is it is already a crime because there is such a term in international
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law as a nuclear terrorist and there even popularization or talk about nuclear threats is a crime, the only question is who will bring the criminal to his senses and to responsibility and here is the question again why is this this regime that is personified now presented in the repez, and he is already actually yesterday, the parliamentary council of the eu just officially named me, he imposes all the lines on the eyes. uh, all nuclear materials, chemical materials, bacteriological materials, that is, practically what is
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happening on the fronts, and uh, our achievements and this hysterical - this is just a direct analogy of our achievements , now they want the scale of the disaster to increase even more, no one in the normal world can afford this imagine, but let's remember the impending global famine. when ukraine does not supply the russian federation, it does not supply food to the world market, and the question of the world food market cannot be said to be they have fallen, but they are slowing down, and especially the un programs, where the poorest countries are saved with food from ukraine, it is under great question and practically under great another global
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catastrophe, therefore, precisely these are our military actions, the putins want to drown in these fears of the nuclear chemical bacteriological order by preparing and practically hoping for armageddon from the position of heat in winter and hunger at the level of the global world, mr. valeriy, as these thesis of gregory regarding what the enemy wants in the monk put our victories on the back burner and frighten the world precisely with the hunger of nuclear chemical weapons, how can this affect the stability of europeans and americans in maintaining such a course regarding aid to ukraine, how can this affect our partners, this is exactly the problem we are facing now because and the powerful support that exists in the western countries, in particular in europe, we feel it everyday, it will now be leveled by the actions
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of russia and, in particular, by public, that is, communication content actions for this so far, there are a lot of capacities and they will use them, the cold, certain inflationary processes, and so on, they will act on the side of the kremlin, what can we oppose, of course we must put forward certain civilizational things that should be it is clear to our colleagues and citizens of western countries that at this stage the issue of ukraine and russia is a question of the world and russia, it is a question of democracy and terrorism terrorism
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this is exactly the aspect that scares the world, but for now it scares the world from the position of the kremlin as a threat and u.s it is necessary to ask this question of terrorism as its destruction by joint efforts in order for the world to move to a promising peace. the 21st century was predicted as a century of peace of security and, by and large, happiness, but we see that now the situation is actually returning to the 20th century when on the one hand there is terrorism and on the other hand democracy and the question of who will win is currently hanging in the air .
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look, yes, yes, she said, there are two minutes left. i would like mr. hrygoriv to give a certain summary of the current reality, what is happening and what we can expect in the next six months and a year, a very long period of six months, a year. let's talk about the month before the new year, the situation is really and in general, it is very difficult with forecasts because we operate in the center with a forecast at the level of the day, these are just very accurate things and they are really effective technological because the day is now a resource and a potential and a goal and a communication content age - this is a very big aspect, just as you asked what we need to do. we need to transform the day of physical communication into a content-filled one with democracy and the life of our ukraine and the life of our military
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with their emotions and energies and uh, this, this, victory , and we will win in the energies of spirituality, we this we are doing but we need to combine in order to get out let's look at the energy in terms of prospects, we still need to look at things er right why, for example , the supply of weapons to us is planned because the energy of this tension of the aggression of the putins only we feel, so we need to transfer this tension, the energy of aggressiveness , especially the aggressiveness of such a multifunctional mode of diplomacy to the mode of e-e contacts of our diaspora groups of our by the way, e-e citizens who are now abroad so that they become these
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conductors of these needs, again of needs not for ukraine, as valeriy said, but for the whole world and for the perspective, and most importantly, hysterics will be from putin's positions, they will continue of an ultimatum nature, they cannot do without it our situation cannot be completely ignored, but we do not have to live with it, we need to produce centers of communication and content generation, and we are also talking about the legalization of civil, military, but normal civilized life of people, e.e., specialists, e.e., we are all who practically work for victory, from children to people old people who , with their pennies or just prayers
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, help us all, and this life practically has the potential to win today, tomorrow, the day after tomorrow, we have hope, a big zombie for in a month, in two, in three, we will still turn the situation around because the situation is at the point of this biturcation. let me remind you that hryhoriy lyubets and valeriy korol were on the air of the espresso channels - they are the founders and heads of the analytical organization, the center for communication content security introduced conversations , stay on the espresso channel, i'm iryna koval, mother, wife, tv channel host espresso and i'm also a volunteer, our soldiers at the front
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need a lot of things every day and that's why it's part of my life today - it's helping the armed forces of ukraine and i'm very grateful to my colleagues that they support me in this sport during the war, what is it empty stadiums without fans in the stands are deserted sports halls and destroyed sports facilities, our athletes lost the opportunity to train at home due to the war and were forced to flee abroad to prepare for future starts, those who remained with weapons in their hands heroically defend ukraine in this war, the second place of ukraine will not suit us, we need victory, each of you is a cavalryman, saving the lives of our soldiers and bringing our victory closer

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