yes subtleties in order to catch those whom she considers her enemies all over the world, at least to get them to cause some discomfort well, i do n't know if you know that for the last 5 years countries of the european union when i crossed the border and it was at the request of the russian side, there is a problem of an obviously systemic nature , it would be good if our partners with whom we are united in similar organizations should also think about it thank you, mr. rifat abstract chubarov chairman medzholis of the crimean tatar people was in touch with us in a few moments, i broadcast the television broadcast of the espresso channel, our colleagues from radio svoboda continue, you can also continue to stay with us on youtube with our authentic content my name is khrystyna yatskiv were with you the usa has a new defense strategy in which

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us on the internet, do not forget to subscribe, like , and, as usual, write your lines, comments, remarks in the chat under the broadcast, let's get started from donetsk region, in the part of the donetsk region under the control of the ukrainian authorities , four people were killed during the past day as a result of shelling . where the heaviest fighting is going on and where the russian army is trying to advance , here is what is happening in the city of bakhmut itself.

i want it, i don't want it. the house is abandoned. you understand everything. honestly, i don't understand why they are here. because here i saw people with children, because, well, the argument is that there is no money. well, there are centers there that provide, let's say, help to refugees, everything and at least well . there is also no light, no conditions, but here they are still shooting there. at least i, well, i ca n’t say, well, for me, it’s illogical. thank god, everything is fine this morning. everything is fine

, but in general it is difficult. thickness fighting is going on, today our boys took a prisoner of war from russia, it is called a one-time operation, their task is to get out and reveal our rotten positions there, how lucky will they be if they survive, well, they will not be lucky, so they will all stay there,

it was donetsk. the burial of at least 17 people was buried there in april , now the bodies of the dead are being sent for examination, the police of the kharkiv region told about the mass burial, residents of the village of kopanka reported that the russian military took the bodies the dead were gathered all over the district more precisely and on april 13 they were brought in on two trucks and how with an excavator they dug a hole about 3 m deep and dumped these bodies there. now we see pictures from this village. civilians and military of the armed forces of ukraine, and what is happening now in the liberated kharkiv region, let's talk further with us on the phone serhiy bolvinov, head of the investigative department of the main department of the national police in the kharkiv region good evening good evening, if permit me to ask you about this last case. the police reported that there were 17 dead people. perhaps they have already managed to identify someone. what kind of people were they? indeed,

we received information about the mass burial of the military armed forces of ukraine. we were informed about this burial by local residents, it is our military . who were in combat positions, uh, did not leave the place of service, so as a result of a combat clash, they died, the russians buried our soldiers in this way. as you can see now on screen they dug a hole 2.5-3 m deep and put everyone there threw them down and covered them with earth local residents on easter they know that there died our soldiers installed a cross they arranged this place as best as they could since yesterday since the day before yesterday, today is the third day we are working at this place i want to say that the investigators who work there are quite in such dangerous conditions because not far from this

place there are russian positions guarding the contact line, so there is a real danger to the lives and health of our workers, however despite this, we are carrying out our work the day before yesterday, we recovered three bodies of our soldiers who died today, so far one, at this moment it is known that four more of our servicemen have been recovered, we are conducting standard investigative procedures for the recovery of bodies, in the future, a forensic medical examination will be scheduled and each of the dead will be identified, we are really in contact with the relatives of the dead so that they receive the bodies of the dead in the shortest possible time and all of our fighters have been identified and properly buried, this is our job and we are doing it constantly with the time of de-occupation. is it even possible to have an approximate idea of ​​how many people

died in kharkiv oblast while it was occupied in the occupied areas of kharkiv oblast, civilians , military, or maybe all of us together, at the moment we are working with the time of de-occupation and this number, this figure is increasing unfortunately because the russians have caused a lot of disaster in the occupied territory , since the de-occupation we have removed more than 600 bodies of dead civilians. unfortunately, we also set up massive security sites, such as the city of izyum, where we 451 bodies were removed and today we are already working today in the kupyan district, we inspected four locations, we are removing the bodies of dead civilians there, a woman was killed by a sniper, a man , a man died as a result of a mine-explosive injury, other civilians, what kind of people are they from their own citizens they guarded their neighbors simply in the yards in other places, this is all not a legal form of

guarding, we call it self- burial, because the investigators and policemen must rubber stamp this body, experts must examine it, everyone must to establish the cause of death and after that the body will be handed over to the relatives for proper burial. and tell me about your work, what is the complexity of it. if we are talking about law enforcement officers, i understand that this is all the work of the police. you go to a liberated settlement and your task is ... it is really possible to find there, although perhaps to discover some crimes that did take place, but also to find the bodies of the dead, what is the difficulty of looking for them, yes , the police really carry out this work with these forces available , and we do it not independently, but with close communications with the prosecutor's office and the security service of ukraine, the difficulty lies in the fact that these territories, on which we work first, are now

contaminated, i.e. mined, there are a lot of landmines , anti-tank mines, and anti-personnel mines, there are a lot of such contaminated the territory on which it is very difficult to work, in this regard, we created on the basis of a forensic laboratory, which is mobile in the working area, which includes, first of all, the explosion of equipment so that investigators can start working and other people can start working in this territory and it is necessary to inspect after the work, explosive devices begin to work where necessary, we involve the ministry of emergency situations, where necessary, our investigators work, the investigators include a group of forensic scientists who have special e-e knowledge to extract trace information to extract all parts of ammunition debris that may be in this place in order to in the future, we gathered a complete picture and could work with the component trace information

in order to establish what uh entered this place, what is the cause of death, together with us, and the prosecutor and the security service of ukraine and what i want to say that these places are the closest to the collision zone and these places are constantly under fire from various types. these are the closest places to this place. there are already cases when our criminalistics laboratory is on its way, targeted by the russians, that is, they associate police officers with our law enforcement agencies and do not let them rest of course, working in this is a danger to the life and health of police officers, therefore all police officers work accordingly in protective vests in fairy tales and

we try to do our work very quickly, but according to the requirements of the current legislation, we record all our actions on video, photo recording with witnesses that's all we do it quickly and efficiently, and we understand, yes, we also understand what the challenge is for us at the moment, in order to remove the bodies as quickly as possible and hand them over to the relatives of the dead. i understand what happened and we want to work very, very quickly to first hand over the bodies and record this event so that this event is properly reviewed and described and trace information is preserved and removed in full serhiy and please tell me how you identify those persons who cooperated with the russian forces in the occupied territories a-a and maybe there is a number. and how many such persons have already been identified, maybe they have been charged with suspicion. and what kind of people are these people, what rank are these

people, these people, the law, the criminal code of ukraine qualifies as collaborators, there is an article in the criminal according to the code of ukraine, what is called collaborative activity? we, the police, will repeat the work on the de-occupied territory from time to time. territories, in fact, when the police work in these territories, all local people understand that there is a government in this territory, and there are representatives of law enforcement agencies, whom you can turn to, tell them what happened, declare about a crime and this crime will first be properly registered and investigated and you will not be punished. as for collaborators, we really do establish and find a lot in these

territories, but compared to the population, well, they are much smaller and most people meet and law enforcement agencies and the police and the armed forces of ukraine with joy and they understand that finally peaceful life will return and it is returning to these territories, as for the category, these are different people, i want to say that the main the mass of those collaborators who occupied top positions, top officials of the occupation authorities, they passed, however, there is a middle echelon, a low echelon who remained, who were also accomplices, cooperated with the occupation authorities, these are different categories of people, they may be educators who introduced russian e-e into the education system with the russian education scheme these are also

employees of communal authorities - these are also law enforcement officers who worked in the so-called kharkiv people's militia of all these people. well, you are also deputies. there are cases when judges moved there alone on the side of the enemy, we establish all these people, we work with the local population, who provide us with this information, who inform us. we seize their documentation we scrutinize it we draw information from these seized items and this gives us the basis to identify people and further fills all of them all their actions are given due legal

assessment in the case if this person's actions fall under the signs of a criminal offense , such people are clearly brought to criminal responsibility, this is our task, this number of people is constantly increasing, and the number is constantly increasing, but this is our job and we perform it in full we publish information in the mass media about the number of people we are talking about, we have checked more than a second, we have already checked more than 3,000 people and we have already sent more than 30 cases to the court, well, the number of suspicions it is constantly increasing, 30 people already from kharkiv region, these are already cases in the courts, so who cooperated with the russian military, about 30 people in cases, we announced a notice of

suspicion of such people. was on radio svoboda, thank you very much. in the european commission on the language of the president of russia, vladimir putin, at the valdavian forum, they called it orwellian, if you did not watch this monologue that lasted for almost 4 hours. so we made a short review and a spoiler. in fact, nothing new was said by putin in one form or another. it was already heard before. and you definitely heard his theses , no less what he said and most importantly how the world reacted to it, listen девушка такая i was a little out of my depth, my mother had no education, not even a middle school, but just worked. i always very finely

feel the pulse of what the person lives in. the transfer of the person who pocketed our gold and currency reserves and europe. that ’s exactly what the so-called west put on the con- in its game, but the game is definitely dangerous. bloody and i would say dirty. it is the sovereignty of countries and peoples, and the very ordinariness and uniqueness do not matter. what is interesting about other states, the adviser to the head of the office of the president of ukraine, mykhailo podolyak , responded to these statements. which putin's speech is put into two words by freud, a person who invaded a foreign country , annexed territories and arranged genocide, accuses someone of violating international law and

the sovereignty of other countries, one truth, who sowed the wind will reap the storm the storm is coming and how did the minister of foreign affairs of latvia react to the transfer of responsibility for the war in ukraine to the west, it is almost like rehearsing a defense speech at the international tribunal in gaza or nuremberg. about the fact that they are preparing some kind of incident with the so-called dirty bomb, more, just do it, they loaded it into the point u or where, they gave us somewhere a nuclear device, tell me that this is russia made a nuclear strike, we don't need to do it , we don't have any sense, it's not political,

non - military. talks about the possibility of using tactical nuclear weapons, he is very dangerous. in his approach to this, the guy in ukraine follows a plan, and its purpose is allegedly to protect the people of donbas, and also declared about russia's exclusive right to control over ukraine, the only real and serious guarantor of ukrainian statehood, the sovereignty and territory of a holistic system, could only be russia, which created today's ukraine. putin's imagination is in full control, which indicates that his goal is to destroy the ukrainian state and erase the very concept of the ukrainian people, according to analysts of the american institute for the study of war and add it is fundamentally incompatible with serious negotiations yulia kryuchkova radio svoboda what is

behind putin's monologues and what is he really going on about count on it, we will talk about it further , oleksandr morozov, a political scientist, a researcher at the boris nimtsov center for russian studies, charles university in prague, joins the broadcast. hello , oleksandr. did you hear anything new for yourself in these valdai monologues, because many commentators in ukraine say that there is nothing new about it. already heard here, rehearsed in one form or another, what you will say, yes indeed, if you take the speech of the same person, which was apparently written for putin and his advisers in fact, he directly said, er, there is nothing new in this matter. there is such an old set of er, anti-western theses, which express both hatred for the west and a claim to the west, and in general, this speech is not directed at all. it is addressed to us, as we call the

neutral third countries, what neutral countries call them, that is, the countries of the global south . uh, that's why it's personal in itself, it's interesting how the questions that sounded after the fact that in these questions he emphasized once again that uh, he doesn't consider ukraine to be an economy, this is definitely a fundamental fundamental moment, and his answer clearly shows it once again and the goals of the war, that is, the goal of the war, after all, which he unleashed is the non-union of four territories and the destruction of ukraine as a whole state, and the second important point was in his mind, in his questions

and answers, the following he is very direct and rather cynically said that in russia, despite the fact that people can adhere to different political views, be left-wing or right-wing in view, at the same time, the majority unites them. converges and it is obvious that putin manipulates this threat to his speeches, well, in this case, work with your russian population. well, you said such a phrase that this is his appeal, it was addressed to third countries he wanted to convey and it was a successful summer. do you think it is possible to immediately say that there is no? although there were representatives of india, sri lanka, and

other countries sitting in the hall. latin america only has a long relationship with russia before the start of the war, but now they will not enter into some tight alliance with putin. they won't become what he can't offer but his speech shows that nothing he offers them to give up the dollar in some way evrey 4 is another one like a customs union or a currency union, but the main thing is that he is offering them a completely crazy thing to go to a conflict with developed economies to a political conflict in which he himself there is no, of course, this proposal is perfect realistically and not for whom it is, eh, i don’t

think that here everything is at all, there are any prospects further, eh. putin on the president who is afraid of the president who is confused a-a who is saving for his safety is afraid of the future future because of the sanction we will allow a-a or he looks quite confident in what he does and says she can the situation be like that and putin always behaves like this in this way, he demonstrates that he never makes mistakes, that he is confident in himself, that he maintains victory after victory, but, nevertheless, the fact is that, and they do not doubt it, that he gives an excellent account of the fact that his eight-month military campaign failed where the factor is because of course he considers

both the american and british reviews of those military opinions which cannot be ignored, this opinion would be better for the military experts of the world, he sees it perfectly, he also knows that in his own environment there is a struggle and the fsb is trying to place the responsibility on the army. the mobilization went poorly, he had to admit it himself, otherwise speaking now the totality of the circumstances certainly put putin in a rather difficult position, it is obvious that he needs some kind of success, but it is not at all clear how you are approaching in the foreseeable future even taking into account the mobilization that he carried out taking into account the appointment of a new commander of the entire military company there, how can this success be achieved? you said that putin perfectly

reads everything written by western analysts and military experts, i don’t know. leon read today’s publication in the laws they write there that the russian elite began to think about the future without putin, here is the author so writes that in moscow restaurants and kitchens there are many conversations not everyday and everyone understood that putin ошибся и что он проирывает а-а и ех, here i want to ask you about what are the options for people who in russia it is customary to call now the political elite if they really don't want or plan their future without putin, what can they do now and they have opportunities for action a-a, well, the question is the following, of course, eh , they have to, what a big group of people, they have to reach some consensus, which is not easy, because it requires a common position a-a well, at least in general mines a-a in the consensus

фигуры после путина ето первый момент второй момент is important, people who want uh, uh, such a smart future дальше дал жены will learn in an obvious way with the support of the army , because it is impossible to move through longings through putin to the next to some ruler of russia eh- well, in any case, the army or some other, but very influential and strong, power structure, and here are two things that must be constructed with this cast, it is not easy, it is not easy, it is quite dangerous everything is in this report, but i will understand how the situation will continue to subside . well, with some kind

of delayed effect, their effect is increasing, the isolation of the economy, and the impossibility of winning a military victory in this company, all of which are tied to purchases. people who want some kind of future in russia, let it be with you, the question is whether we can do something if it is to remove putin, but i emphasized that risky things are not easy, and it can be, uh, people who even have the resources to say we don't want to get involved with it. we'll just leave, so to speak. well, the rest of the pants, let's go to dubai or go to the caribbean, eh, and live out the rest of our days quietly. how did the banker pugachev, who was once putin's right hand, eh? or a whole row of other figures who will cooperate honestly with putin directly, not just

the kremlin himself. месяцев well, this is the same, uh, the same, according to the laws, you are sleeping, what is permissible, the western government is also very much worried about the fact that if something like this happens, as you say, russia will become ungovernable and what does ungovernable russia mean ? what and who does it threaten? this is a myth that is generally always supported in relation to russia. it must be said that when the soviet union collapsed, the basic fear of many politicians is the european transport measures, they just revolved around the fact that it's not controllable, and it's understandable