it is in our strategic interests to focus only on one center of power, let's say so and not conduct a dialogue with another, but gentlemen, you mentioned a very small technical error , so our percentage in the structure of china's foreign trade is less than a percent, and in general, what can china be interested in ukraine, well motor sich we have already passed. this is all we have with complementary economies. this is the main factor that works in favor of ukraine. china works to ensure food security, but this is the country that lost russia. by the way took away from her the lands where she grew food crops and actually ensured her food security. china remembers this in eh, even territorial claims are not shared anywhere , when in 1978 i asked the eh chinese whether they would they will win back their territories. they told the russians that as long as you are strong, we will not have any complaints against you , that is, they honestly answered how it will be if they are weak, which means that this issue will be

raised so, er, talking about food safety, in fact, ukraine can be one of the important factors as one of the food bases actually for china, there is definitely australia nearby, other countries where there is diversification of food supply sources in china, but we are an important important country not only from the side that we can supply food, we have a free trade agreement with the european union , here we can create joint ventures . crimea before the war, which has now begun. we actually planned to create joint enterprises on the borders with the european union in order to produce products for the european market . oh, one train, one way to

actually make it here and hap e-e, which would supply , store and supply products to europe, but correctly. i understand that lukashenko seized the initiative, so lukashenko continues to mean this big stone, this technopark. literally not recently, an article somewhere in a belarusian publication, as lukashenko stated. my friend also said lukashenko. well, and so on, and this is the intercession of belarus and china, to what extent it threatens or harms our interests, and it is different. in fact, belarus ensures its sovereignty, sovereignty . because of china, belarus is very dependent on russia, she understands that in fact now belarus is absorbed by russia and the only single grant and guarantor and knot that keeps belarus from being absorbed and becoming a province of russia is this in fact, direct relations with china are so large , chinese investments in belarus are so large, and that's why i

think only this barrier is holding russia back so that she officially came and said all this, you are our province there, we have joint military committees, we have political common borders, let's say it honestly, i'm straight, but still belarus is holding on, lukashenko is holding on to ties with china also because china, giving investments, is actually giving money, and he doesn't ask how much longer lukashenko plans to stay in power, true. and this is confucianism not political interference, political autonomy is your business, you can deal with your country politically, and our relations are established at the highest level, they continue to develop . internal politics, it is at the basis of confucianism, confucianism is also laid. well, i also added that belarus really is simply its

advantages in that it develops its relations with china, we at the expense of the fact that we could not implement, after all, this is a thesis. it must sound like a lot, and in fact, when the chinese even went to belarus, they said that belarus should also become, then, if ukraine did not cope with it in a certain way, it should still be a hub for the entire region and belarus she also made a possible mistake because she closed everything to herself, she was not able to implement, for example, the idea that was discussed and trade with europe, for example , belarus through exactly poland is a bigger hub for chinese goods than belarus, in my opinion, yes, eh p. oleksii belarus came from the trump cards of its time, you remember lukashenko's statement that he is now building a china town in the center of minsk and a statement like come to us, that means bring your ancient culture and so on. in our country, this is impossible . i can't imagine it. i will also add that if we get it

, for example, on the chinese military forces, the chinese armed forces, everything that china defines now as the most modern, its weapons were actually created with the help of ukraine, strangely enough, maybe they forgot about it and it is not popular to talk about it now, but in relation to the fleet, this is all ukraine gave, yes , in fact, well, that is, you mean the engines for ships, cruise missiles, radar systems, and aircraft carriers, then, then transport planes, this is all over the last 15-20 years, eh, fighters, that is, all of this is actually it was all technological cooperation, yes. is our cooperation military, military, military, technological cooperation, and even now, let’s say that this potential is not yesterday. can i ask you carefully ? did ukraine provide it? did china take it , and so and so it was ? you if him it was necessary and i took it, of course, but in fact

the first scandal was not the current one, but the first scandal surrounding the sichi motor, an investment, and then an international lawsuit from a chinese company for china. it was a normal business, normal business. uh, on a political scandal, this was exactly the problem. look at this, this opens another turning point for us, if in the topic where our diplomacy ends and our internal and external security begins. how careful should we be with china, after all, this is a very old one ancient culture with such, so to speak, with such techniques. i'm sorry for the word so that with them you have to be very careful and very as you rightly said understand them and know a lot about them, well, as the chinese say, in order to forge steel, one must have a steel m' that is why ukraine must be strong in order to communicate with a strong country. and if we

talk about motor sich, it is the consequences of a number of government decisions that were not wrong from my point of view. the first decision was that the meaning of this plant was underestimated actually we we didn't develop our helicopter program, we didn't have any strategies if it was necessary to develop aviation, the fleet, we didn't allocate funds for this, we said that we are not at war with anyone, we are a neutral country, we don't need to fight at all, we were cutting the army all the time and the air force was being reduced, that is, in fact, the company was toss it to the side of the road the first moment the second moment in the 90s we gave the opportunity to privatize a strategic enterprise to a private person so we will not name names everyone everyone knows everyone knows because the next person at their discretion how is she she was able to save herself, this enterprise is undoubtedly a private person looking for the one who could pay, the one who could buy, where can these engines be sold, the

question is, do you know the politics, where is the helicopter program, where exactly is the flight, where are the flights, these chinese are absolutely as if something is lying on the floor, what are the walls, why don’t they raise them and please tell me, the chinese are generally famous in the world. china is famous in the world for such a player who does not hesitate to climb the floor and even look for it on purpose. he can even throw something on the floor in order to later this is something to raise and the question of taiwan and the conflict, a possible conflict around taiwan and it is directly related to this, you understand that microprocessors are the main thing now, as the author of the book said, or part of the book that came out literally on october 4, the new one is an american journalist, god, what is his name, i have it written down somewhere a-a hmm in short, he claims that semiconductors are the new oil and

that includes international relations and conflicts, including taiwan, which is known to be 60%, if not more, of production of the world's chips, and the newest ones, because the technologies, namely, the technologies for the production of e-e machines or these machines for lithography, and they are owned by only one company in the world, this is a dutch company in cooperation with this one, with german and chinese, such machines will not be sold e- in view of the trade war and a number of laws that the trump administration has also adopted, if you remember what do you think china will do or will it resort to such desperate measures in order to take over e-e technologies? he often made his history, he will close and spend some time there, i don't know, 15-20-30 years, in order to develop his industry internally, what do

you think is the option of our type, everything was driven around china, there were two ways, according to me, i will now give my personal opinion on - first , china's international policy and international actions, as we said, they are based on chinese culture, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no , no, because of the conflict, we know the art of war, which he wrote, so what if you have already allowed a direct heated conflict? both sides are losing potential. you have already lost because you are losing potential. the path is not aggressive because of influence, that is, china had a way to become, in fact, the number one country, the number one country that has economic potential in the world, and because of this influence, it is not set this as a goal, so we should not forget that china became the second economy as much due to efforts as due to the fact that japan lost the 2010 championship, and

she actually built her economic power thanks to such an informal agreement by the united states of america in 1978 , this agreement was concluded that china receives innovations, receives investments in return, it will balance the soviet union, which pursued an aggressively aggressive policy, china agreed to this , they put donets opi on the fact that he said openness to reform and innovation and that's all, and they went along along the way, enterprises received investments, were transferred there, and this was the basis for the fact that china gave such a push, and he supported this push until before this congress due to openness innovations, reforms, etc., this is one way to become , in fact, the number one economic power and chose to spread political influence in the world, you resolved all issues without conflicts, that is, everyone came to you for money, for investments, for the

resolution of some conflicting issues, that is, because of this, as before and was decided by china when it implemented the concept of tiansha before the so -called peace of westphalia in 1648. so, the second way is confrontational and many factors depend on what china chooses. to cut off the middle that is in confucianism yes, and that this is included in the basis of the development of the concept of development but look at sindinh he is a representative of the military class and the military component cd -pin came and said at the 20th congress, well, first, he is strengthening the power, he is being re-elected for a third term in order to implement long-term tasks, it is clear, but a military man is the only power, and how, what will it be, what will be the direction of development?

to strengthen the armed forces well, there will definitely be a desire to resolve some conflicts, it is possible to resolve some conflicts by force, i do not rule out these two ways. are you becoming an economic leader ? poetic, which is constantly, including in the speech of the ringing bell in the results of the congress. and this is the rejuvenation of the chinese nation on all fronts of the chinese path to modernization, and so on. and so on, what is on do you mean rejuvenation and does it mean that now, since what needs rejuvenation is old or outdated, does this mean that there is still a certain time for the rejuvenation of china until it is not threatened by aggression from china while china rejuvenated in the 80s years ago, there was a concept of building the development of

socialism, there were three components that were laid down by the wise chinese, so the first is a realistic approach to things, so talk less, do more sometimes it's like a movement keeping up with the times, these are innovations that they believe are the spirit of reforms, and reforms give development in a stable situation, so if you draw this algorithm, uh, one line, you will see that in fact, the rejuvenation of getting rid of everything old and getting rid of what is not realistic has already been chosen by the party back in the 80s and until now, it adheres to this algorithm. therefore, it means innovation, it also means it means to give an opportunity to today's youth, which is actually a new generation with a new vision, and

to give them a way, so it will give an opportunity if there is a stable situation, if the government manages to ensure this stability, then under these conditions of stability, they will provide development, and development will provide all the goals set by the party and the matter will be achieved. well, i agree, i think i would add even earlier, as we know er, more the market guided the development of the state, yes, that is, there was an emphasis on the market, there was nothing, that is, jobs were created by the market, and the youth were involved in the market, and now i think that just after the 20th congress, the state will play a big role, and now state enterprises will play they will have a greater role than commercial enterprises, they will provide this technological advantage, or the rejuvenation of the cadre, that is, they will create, attract more young personnel, on the contrary, that is, i even hear it from people who work there, because before, if the chinese were offered in the west, yes

, there are unlimited opportunities, get an education and you will use it yes yes and he used it, that is, but the chinese studied english all because they knew what kind of prospect it was now, in fact, we see the reverse processes, in fact , now english is not the language to be successful in china , yes, that is, you most likely need to have some er ability to do something really new for china . there is a social ready package, that is, for you, that is, it has changed, it is changing, let’s say it has not changed, it is just in the process of changing to this, that is, the attitude to potential, yes and now a person, if we say yes, a cog, yes, that is, a person in the system of such a state it is a cog in the socialist state of the communist country, but in china there is such a phrase, everyone, everyone, it even seems to be in the statute of the communist party, everyone is written according to their skills, but everyone has

their place. the state sees your abilities and it already determines your place for you in this mechanism of this great state. this is what i think is what completely distinguishes the system, let's say, from this, which will have a little vision of a westerner or, er, a western person, it is generally similar in the 84th throat, but you understand. but nevertheless, this is china, and some things and mental and worldview constructions exist more than some countries put together, i would even say that we should approach this carefully, i think that if we now to start summing up our conversation, i think that the main thing is that the main thesis is valuable, as i like to say. and it is that, first of all, ukraine understands very little about china at all levels, both at the level of ordinary people

and at the levels of the state mean diplomacy and so on. something must be urgently done about this, in particular, appoint an ambassador, open trade missions. i understand correctly. and what else can be done, perhaps some cultural exchange , correspondence and information in the information field is generally underdeveloped, this war showed that we are underdeveloped in the information field, we lost china, he actually is located in the information sphere of russia due to the fact that we do not have a car that works there, it is not a representative office when you can not convey with broad information the events about what is happening here, that we are being bombed, that civilians are being wiped out from the face of the earth, and there is no such information in china, who will pass it on to one or two correspondents, they are not able to tell billions, and at this moment the truth is that there is a joint tv station there, joint

joint studios with china, there is absolutely a lot of the information sphere is still broken, there are still many cooperating units we do not have this at all and we are not working on it, we actually underestimate in the modern world in the 21st century the influence on formatting people's brains is such a synthetic sycentric war where ideological and information direction play the most important role. i don't know , open a ukrainian house and there were such initiatives, yes, gentlemen, you were in the deceased, you remember very few russian ones, this is tashivan, the embassy, ​​yes. and from here, 100 m or 200 m, there is a russian cultural center, songs, dances and matryoshka dolls, you know, all the chinese go there to sing there as now i remember. it's russian. of course, soft power is needed

, let's say soft power. yes, so that it can develop and ukraine can offer it. i understand that they are already the editor here . one conversation, so we will definitely return to it, you have already asked in advance for the next series of caretakers, i am very pleased to talk. i hope you were as interested as we were. i understand that there are three chinese there in general, and it says something about the fact that nothing is clear but that's not it less is oleksiy koval, a member of the board of the ukrainian association of china studies, and ruslana stepenko, an expert on international issues, and if the executive director of the chinese trade association , these are people who understand china, if not everything, at least a lot, and i think that this conversation was not only interesting, but also useful for all of us we will return to the topic of china because it is simply impossible to generate this topic in the modern world thank you for your attention and the marathon single news continues

tell me honestly how are you holding up now such an answer for it is relevant to me because you have responsibility for your family, for two children, you have work to do, we survive and we are obliged to go through it and we will definitely survive, focus on your feet, lift one of them and make an active movement as if you are trying to shake something out of yourself, well, it is as if the dogs are shaking themselves just after getting out of the water. at the same time, try to relax the leg with which you are making the movements as much as possible, then do exactly the other one . from yourself all the negativity that you have accumulated add this

technique to your self-help first aid kit more here this year's winter promises to be the hardest in the years of independence of critical infrastructure, so we have to prepare for the most difficult scenarios. a safe source of heat this winter , everyone should be responsible, invite relatives, acquaintances from the regions that have been destroyed together and be warmer and more fun at the apiaries with flashlights and charge them with power banks and stock up on food, water and warm clothes for friends of this neighbor, it is easier to beat the enemy in a group and to winter. all the more and most importantly - support the armed forces thanks to them

. together we will win the winter together the rules of a warm country this winter no house is safe from the edge the state and cities are doing everything possible to give cheerful warmth it is our job to keep it unite with neighbors insulate your house and your apartment check the electrical wiring take care about alternative means of heating, to make an action plan in an extreme situation, to help each other , we will overcome the winter together

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