therefore, i believe that now it is important not only to support from us europeans, but also to counter disinformation about russia's hybrid war and which still continues to hover in remote regions. yesterday i had the opportunity to talk with several human rights defenders at a conference on alternative security, they were people from the middle east, africa and asia they have no idea what is going on and why we have changed our security paradigm and we need to explain to them that we have to invest in africa i have spoken to some of your fellow citizens now they are going to go to africa explaining in nigeria sudan ghanaians in other countries what is going on and what this war is all about they are just basically being fed this russian disinformation so we have to

support them there are a lot of vulnerable groups people are starving they are affected by the food crisis we have to make sure that they with us of the same opinion , then putin will not be able to win the war because he will be completely isolated, but this is a big job and for this we need to stay together in europe in the european union and it will be possible, let's wait and let's see, let's work together, try to do everything possible, but i see how much has already been done in the framework of supporting ukraine, putin cannot win this war and the synod he will not win because we have our own army and we have your help and support thank you for that talk about putin's threats to use nuclear weapons and other weapons of mass

destruction, do you personally think that he is serious about putin's intention to destabilize our societies, he knows exactly what business is needed for this, what kind of reaction can we expect, in particular from of german society after the nuclear threats, will he seriously see it or should we listen and step back oh never and we should stand firm especially watching the situation in ukraine and not let his words stop us but

the potential consequences for putin and russia will be serious and significant and they will destroy not only him, but also many of his allies in russia, i think that the head of the people's republic of china also told putin about this and, er, air of the publish i believe that there is a certain red line and this red line is indisputable the use of nuclear weapons seems like tactical nuclear bombs against ukraine i am almost sure that this is a line that he will not cross but of course he is playing with it now grasping for the last straw but i

very much doubt that he will use nuclear weapons against ukraine or against any other country mrs. let's talk about another threat coming from russia, and i mean gas blackmail , bloomberg recently wrote that germany has no plan to deal with the russian energy threat, so my question is how germany overcomes this energy crisis and what does it plan to do in the future russia no longer supplies us with gas so we are already completely independent indeed the energy price crisis is very serious and obvious and as a result the industry is suffering we try to buy many cubic meters of gas from

other autocrats is also moral for us the dilemma of not trading with russia is one thing, but getting gas from azerbaijan, qatar and algeria is not much better either, so at the moment we have to replace part of our gas with fossil gas from other suppliers in prospects we would like to switch to hydrogen, the chancellor together with our energy minister robert habek went to canada to sign an agreement with the canadians on the construction of wind power plants and then the transfer of this energy to hydrogen, which will be transferred to europe. as such is not at a high level

to be able to use immediately we also need to find more potential energy saving measures and i mean that even though a better situation compared to ukraine, we still use energy, it is possible to save on an individual level but not only we have developed a broader program of energy saving measures that need to be implemented it is one thing to have something on paper to vote and ratify it, and another to put it into practice for this we do not there is a lot of manpower and materials, in fact there are many things that have a lot of support from berlin and a lot of political will from our ministries, but in the end at the stage of exploitation

we cannot deliver because it does not depend on us , that is why we are really fighting the crisis, doing everything possible even at the european level . all over europe, prices are now rising, the supply is in short supply, and the demand is too high, we will also probably have to help ukraine with gas and energy, i spoke with the representatives of moldova, who have suffered greatly from this energy crisis 100% depends on russia, they still don't know how they will survive this winter. so, if you look around, this applies not only to berlin, not only to germany, but

indeed to all of europe and our closest neighbors. i have to ask you this question. in ukraine, germany is often accused of not gives us enough weapons to fight against russian aggression , how fair do you think these accusations are, in part it is true, i think that at some point we have to decide whether we give ukraine western technologies, including leopard tanks so far there has been no official request, but i hope that the federal security council will give the green light if such a request comes, at the moment we have 2,192

leopard tanks throughout europe in 13 different countries , none of which has applied at the government level for permission to export them yet that it is about circular agreements with various member states and then they supply old weapons as in the example with slovakia with greece and other states i think that in order to truly support ukraine at the military level we need to make this decision regarding tanks leopard as soon as possible, since they, together with other systems, can radically change the situation, i would like the chancellor, his consultants and his advisor to have a different position on this issue, we are

pedaling as hard as we can because we understand that this would be a powerful help for ukraine, because your country is technologically developed enough to deal with with these weapons but at the moment it is still not clear when these weapons can be exported to ukraine secondly regarding the air defense system i think that germany would export and will export more it is more a question of the availability of many of these systems , we simply do not have them in stock, they are now being manufactured and will therefore be transferred to ukraine thank you i hope it will be as soon as possible mrs. von kramon at the end of september ukraine submitted an application for accelerated accession to nato how do you assess ukraine's chances

of joining to the north atlantic alliance it is difficult for me to make assumptions. i believe that we need to make sure that ukraine will receive real security guarantees from nato or individual security guarantees from certain eu member states and nato, i think that this issue requires a wider discourse and discussion, for example, there was an article written by the former secretary general of nato, anderson fograsmusin , together with the head of the president's office, andriy yermak. i believe that such contributions and debates should be started. also, here in berlin, in addition, we

need to explain to our citizens what this means if ukraine becomes a member of nato, because many people are either in favor or quite skeptical. however, i think that we should open the space for debate on this issue, and for now we are lagging behind on this and my last question to you for today, mrs. von kramon, in june, ukraine became a candidate for membership in the european union, as a country we need to build our diplomacy, both external and internal, so as not to remain a candidate for many years to come, we must live up

to expectations everywhere. i think that the window of opportunity i am watching how my colleagues in the verkhovna rada and throughout the country are really working in an extremely disciplined manner on all the issues that the eu commission entrusted and handed over to the government of ukraine. this is a really serious signal and proof that ukraine wants to join the eu that they are taking all the necessary measures but what will happen next we will see already in the first progress report maybe at the beginning of next year in march april what is the next stage and next steps about the internal market something for example

including roaming and other types of access or about that what would be important for your citizens or more political deepening of relations and other things is extremely difficult to judge now, but of course we in the european parliament will do everything we can to help our colleagues in the verkhovna rada and others institutions, if they need support and with some specific questions, we will be there and help them find their way to the european union. thank you very much for joining us today. thank you for your sincere answers, and most importantly for all the help and support we receive from you

personally and from all european institutions , especially in such a difficult time for ukraine as now. thank you very much. thank you very much to ukraine and soon i will meet with you personally. of the european parliament is also a member of the alliance bloc e.e. the green party of the 90s from 2009 to 2013. she was a member of the european parliament and is a good friend of ukraine who comes to us and helps us both inside ukraine and abroad. we talked with her about the relations between ukraine and the european union. our present and our future. my name is yuriy fedor. see

you later. thank you . we have the right valevska is with us and his chirida but let's switch to him now a little later the latest operational information from the ukrainian occupied sevastopol explosions are heard there the occupiers blocked the bay in the occupied sevastopol they report the explosions allegedly russian ships repulsed the drone attack now it is possible video we we will see. the video reports about this, as we will see there or not , the telegraph agency of the soviet union reports with reference to the occupation authorities and the telegram channel here is a video of the ships of the black sea fleet , there is an attack by drones, no objects in the city are undamaged because of this, it seems that the raid in sevastopol is temporarily closed, ferries and

boats do not run, and movement between rayo is possible only by buses in sevastopol, the raid through the sevastopol bay provides a connection between the north and in the southern parts of the city. this is the story. we will check it. well, the further story is there. there is another video. editors. look later, we will show how people simply run away in the park, hearing local people. these explosions that are heard in sevastopol, this is the video . well, there is profanity, that's why we turn the sound on. it is necessary to approve how you don't want to stay in sevastopol. that's right. well, now the address umland is joining us. let's talk with him about the position of germany, which seems to have crystallized more and more after of the visit of the president of this country to ukraine, we remind you that on october 5, 25, frank walter steinmeier, the president of germany, was in kyiv

after the start of the full-scale invasion of russia, and he addressed the ukrainian people there in particular said that ukraine can count on germany . well, his last speech, which has already been called a historic one to the people of germany, he delivered on friday with the program his speech to the german people and there he stated that, quote, russia's brutal war of aggression against ukraine trampled the european security architecture steinmeier to whom his opponents blame the long-term efforts to establish cooperation with russia he clearly expressed his opinion about vladimir putin, says that in his imperial madness the russian president violated international law questioned the borders, began to seize territory, well, finally, this position completely crystallized in words, and germany's position is now clear. well, canada

introduced sanctions against lukoil, trance oil, and the management of russian gazprom. on october 28, the country added to the sanctions list against rf-35 persons who are higher management of energy companies that are already under sanctions and six companies involved in the energy sector, the ministry of foreign affairs of canada reports that they were included in the sanctions list deputy prime minister of russia denys manturov and oleksandr, the new executive director of gazprom vitaly markelov, his press secretary serhii kupriyanov, among the companies are lukoil-transsoil, the national people's company of the russian federation and sogaz, the canadian prime minister justin trudon announced the new sanctions at the congress of canadian ukrainians in the city of winnie-the-pooh, do we have the sumland address with us? please tell me the analyst of the stockholm center for eastern european studies. we welcome you on the air. espresso is glad to see you. good morning. please tell me how to understand these

new messages from the president of germany, can this already be considered a completely clear stable position, i was also a little surprised because he is now such in the german context, at least he was more radical pro-ukrainian and the tone of his expressions has changed. but it must be said here that the federal president of germany does not play a big role, he is an unrepresentative figure, it is not, it is not the equivalent of, say, the ukrainian or even the polish president, hmm, it is rather the equivalent of, say, the british king. therefore, it does not play such a role a direct role, but here it is important, of course, that mayer is part of the party, which is now the most important part of the

government of the social democratic party. he has experience in both the ministry and foreign affairs, and therefore it can be expected that it may also have quality consequences . and what happened? why this steinmeier's position has changed so much . i mean the gas, the reason or what exactly happened. because he came to kyiv and saw how everything was happening there and was there. there was an air raid when he was there and he was in a bunker . it seems that they caused this i changed my position a little bit before, because he was one of the figures who

developed all these russian-german relations. well, he used to have a completely different role. the count sat in the basement, in a word, as they say in donbas, and now throughout ukraine , the german economy unexpectedly grew by as much as 0.3% in the third quarter of the year, despite analysts' forecasts of a 0.2/10 percent reduction in gdp, according to bloomberg, according to the german statistical office, the growth is mainly driven by private consumption germany's output unexpectedly rose in the third quarter, delaying mid-session but analysts are still predicting it due to high inflation and the war-induced energy crisis, these figures are absolutely stunning given so many indicators that show the economy has slowed significantly for several months, said an economist at one of germany's state lenders, elbi w jens oliver niklash your forecasts mr.

andreas regarding the gdp of germany and when the recession will start or whether there will not be one please, well i have to say that i'm not an economist, and as far as i know, even economists can't predict it. it's so clear now because, for example, so far, it seems that the situation is not going to be as critical as it seemed . about a month ago, when were people still talking about the energy crisis that will happen in the winter? now it doesn't look like that anymore, gas prices have fallen and the storage facilities are full of gas, and now i'm in germany. it's very warm here too, and that's

probably why it won't happen. such and such a crisis, well, now all these numbers are very small. that is, there is also a minus plus, this still determines a lot, but now there is really hope that there will not be a decline, er, with a real recession, but there will be just, er, small, er, such consequences . these er, er, these embargoes, which we will say on the part of russia about gas and what well, now we will survive this winter and then we will completely withdraw from er russian er energy, let's talk about the economy, you wanted to receive an address to the people of

steinmeier about germany? steinmar basically said that germany is confronting russia, now there is a war going on. well , in principle, this reflects the general state of german society. there are no longer any such, well, such pro-russian statements, and people sympathize, they really see all this . all these terrible things from russia and well, i would say that russia has lost most of its so -called soft power and is now using hard power, energy, weapons, nuclear weapons, that 's what else has an impact, if on german society is the main argument here and right now

let's say against more intensive aid for ukraine and more intensive sanctions, this is what, well , for us then to celebrate there a third education in war, a nuclear war, and people, oh, people are afraid, they are afraid of putin, no one likes or respects him anymore, and people are simply afraid of him and well, russia knows that this is the position of many germans and such a psychological war is being waged to say that if you help the ukrainians it will be worse for you, well , we have to fight with this now, there is no need to explain to someone that putin is bad, sir andres how do you assess the situation in ukraine ? ukraine has been under such energy terrorism by the terror of russia for three weeks now. how do

you assess the ability of the ukrainian economy? and without heat, if there are frosts, how can it affect our ability to earn money, because the west does not fully help us, does not partially finance all our expenses. we have half to earn at least half of it, we have to earn it ourselves, your forecast, please, what do we need to do now, what are the priority tasks for the government, for business , for the private public sector, for the people, please ? new minutes and so russia. i was on the left bank of kyiv and i saw how there rockets

were flying towards the bank and this is now a new tactic of russia so that if it is not possible to get a military military victory, then just engage with terror and er press on er on er it's civil for the citizens, it's just ukraine here, yes, here we have to adapt to this situation, well, it's difficult , of course, when there are energy problems, but i hope that the ukrainians will find ways to continue working in such a situation you introduce economic activity. i think it's very difficult, but we don't have any opportunities here. well, we don't have

the experience. to say something, how can it not be and how to do it, but i've seen it before. this is what ukrainians are very good can and predict to adapt and and it probably helps now too, it helps, you rightly said that there is help it is not complete but nevertheless, there is a principled position of the west that the west will be as many as three need to help ukraine this was the official statement, the first point, hmm, the last statement of the big seven, er, here are the seven the most development of the world economy, who said how much is needed, it helped so much and it will be, that is, there is a prospect and now, perhaps, we just

need to survive this energy winter very briefly, the restoration of infrastructure and europe i'm ready to help us, i'm asking briefly. i think it 's understood now. again, i'm not an energy expert enough to know how to do it and do it quickly, but this problem is clear . this is about this attack on the ukrainian energy infrastructure, and i hope that there will be quick and large help. thank you. well, the first help has already arrived. lithuania sent us equipment worth about 100,000 euros to ukraine specifically for the repair of the electric substation and gas pipelines damaged during of these attacks. thank you for your participation and