tv [untitled] October 30, 2022 5:00am-5:31am EET
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well, in an insane asylum, you won't be offended by people who have lost their minds. i don't belong here. i'm very tired of hatred. i just coldly and calmly do my work in captivity. by the way, it was interesting. and as a psychologist, i observed the behavior of executioners and in of the prisoners for the transformation that took place with the prisoners and for how the executioners reacted to the reaction of the prisoners, well, this is such an analysis. i'm still analyzing, i'm thinking of publishing
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a book. for the military and for civilians separately. i think this will be appropriate the inner truth is on my side and they perfectly felt it in any case, even if they declare something else. they still feel that they are wrong somewhere deep in their soul, if there is still someone's soul left somewhere, i would like to look into his eyes later when- don't do anything, just look in the eyes when you are there, they tell you that you are enemies and you will be immediately judged there, immediately on the cigar post, or ukraine considers you all traitors, that is, even after the exchange, you will immediately be judged there, put in prison
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of course i didn't believe it and i think that 99%, thousands did n't believe it either, but even if you don't believe it, you know it 's a lie when you're told that 100 times a day, a little hmm makes such an adjustment and i've seen guys turn around and this is the look well, that is, they expect that in addition to them, it is necessary to show that everything is a lie, or that they were expected, that they are loved, that they are respected , that they are heroes for all of us, and only then, well, a difficult period begins after two months of return, it is such a break, and somewhere after the third month already it is possible for a person to sit down and talk, but i do i am now coming to the guys from the exchange and we are
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talking, well, absolutely without restrictions due to the fact that i went through the same thing as they, as a whole, who released me from the hospital. i immediately dialed the number of the organizers of the games invictors games and asked if her place in the national team was free ukrainian valerkins team, because i passed the selection and at the time of the beginning of this large-scale aggression, i was a member of the team, and if my place was free, well, so that i would not disturb anyone there, if there is a place, then i would like to participate, of course, it is not guaranteed no result too much what is weak, that is, in fact , three weeks after the release, training began . i did not think that i wanted anything there, so
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far, some result, but the result exceeded all our expectations. i took two gold medals in swimming and a bronze in powerlifting, our team members all one for each other, it's just fantastic, it's like a unit in the war, they practiced the same way, trained , performed, of course, there is a place for a woman in the war , i have never once experienced any discrimination, but not every woman has a place in the war, there are such girls who are not suitable for this, but they must hold the rear and pray at least for the soldiers who protect us, that is, like men, not all are suitable
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for the front. i do not see a gender difference here, in general, i know girls who perfectly command units, very responsible and very well-rounded, very and i have seen men who are completely incapable of cleaning a machine gun. well, gender is not relevant here at all. i always thought that if in the rear, people can live a normal life, they don't suffer, they don't starve , they don't freeze, but they go to cafes and visit concerts, it's very cool. you know why, because we do our job awesomely, i'm very proud of our army. in fact, i don't regret a single moment about my choice, about the fact that i made my way
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, so it's cool. well, i'm not part of the norwegian army. but i think there. over this, as soon as i feel that i have recovered enough physically, i will return to me, i have no doubts that there will be a victory, let's see who is very twisted, i see it as a picture, spring is blooming lilacs and chestnuts, spring is somewhere in may of what year, i do not know. i hope that the next and everyone is so crazy that is, there is no treatment for the masses of the people, they are exhausted and are perceived as, well, finally. that is, it already happened in general when i went to pick up the wounded
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or, um, for others, in fact, they were transported somewhere around mariupol, which was destroyed every day, literally before my eyes, the city is dying, just like a person dies little by little, well when wounded, for example, when blood flows out little by little and so on and on and on and on and on, and at first there were several in the first days there were several destroyed buildings and by the end it was already a practically destroyed city and uh, i looked at all this and in addition to this sorrow and pain, i saw the future like this . that the russians themselves destroyed this scoop, because
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there were a lot of soviet such surrenders in mariupol, and because of this it was perceived as a post - soviet soviet city. this is the architecture on the site of which we will build a new country. this is public and this is maria takhtaulova, a historian, the head of the department of the institute of national memory, which works in the east in the north of ukraine, and also the coordinator kharkiv toponymic group everything is correct yes absolutely maria what should be the fate of the monument to pushkin in kharkiv i stand by the fact that it should be in the museum, i believe that it belongs there
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because a poet in russia is more than a poet and uh this discussion that unfolded in recent months in ukraine regarding russian culture we talked a lot about the communists, now we are talking about russian culture, which in fact is quite intertwined with the same communists in the sense that these are the same markers of propaganda that the communists also promoted the empire, according to the position, is such that the monuments to pushkin and, in general, everything related to russian culture from the public space near our schools should be transferred to personal interest, this museum already exists, what should be created, what kind of museum it can be, i totally think that it is comfortable for him will be within the walls of a historical or literary museum, a museum of the history of totalitarianism, a museum of the history of propaganda, well
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, totalitarianism, we talk a lot about it, so far we have, as far as i know, at least what concerns the east and the north - this is a museum of travel. here in sumy oblast, busts and monuments to communist figures were gradually moved here and there. there was also talk of creating such a museum in kyiv. i don't know how realistic it is now, at least if we're talking about kharkiv and pushkin's relatives, he would be quite comfortable somewhere in on the walls of already existing events, but this kind of museification is more like a storehouse to remove, as you say, from public space, this is not perpetuation , no, and a modern museum is a modern approach museum it is precisely based on the fact that the museum asks questions he does not give ready-made answers as in soviet times as a tool of propaganda, but he specifically asks questions to his observers. well, the same question why pushkin was moved from the central street specifically from the museum is also a question for which
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the visitor must do some intellectual work to give the answer to this question is important to explain the context. today's ukrainian society treats this heritage like this, it preserves it and studies it, but it does not glorify it, that is, it does not create idols and from these people and pure events that are dedicated in ukraine, well, post-colonial studies somehow well, they exist, they work, but we have not yet worked what kind of optics do you have to look at our imperial heritage, your assessment, your explanation, why removing pushkin from pushkin street from the sclera of poetry is not yet discussed at the level of the will of the political will of the city council, one important thing must be understood that this
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the ongoing war is an existential war, it’s either us or them, and i’m absolutely sure of it, and even if we look recently, the russian president signed their new humanitarian doctrine , is it a humanitarian strategy? to protect the russian language and russian culture everywhere, according to the stepushka on kinsky lermontovsky street and so on, this is an obvious marker that invites to this very occupation, first of all, to the russian language, russian literature, russian writers, singers , pop culture, and then russian tanks, when it comes to renaming streets with any toponyms , about such changes, a democratic path is possible when people decide by the majority, but this path is to some extent populist, and you are talking about a public debate
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, but it is still public and it was not. it was a discussion in a certain circle of conscious, uh, educated and interested people. well, this discussion is obviously not over, because we don’t have a result yet. pushkin stands because the result is based on that. what i said about the war for survival. yes, it should be clear. we have to realize that we have a lot of self-defense and this is also an example. wagner is a great composer, but in israel they don't listen to him publicly because they have dignity, they have their national dignity, he is a symbol of nazi ideology . and pushkin is also a symbol of the spread of the russian world, remember the same billboards in kherson these days against the background of pushkin and his poems and kherson, a russian city, here you are, please, this is for those who need arguments and who can make them
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to perceive, there are people who are simply not interested in it, so they have another area of their own, they are interested in this one. maybe it is possible and it does not seem possible from the other side. well, i am also deeply convinced that when we, for example, approach the renaming of some object there toponymy, we have to work out some options in the future, we can discuss it, it cannot be absolutely such a desert, and choose what you want, after all, experts must work on offering some options and already from them around of these options is to form some kind of consensus. yes , by way of discussion, the action when the pushkin monument was covered with red paint. how do you feel about such actions? we will remember such mechanisms lenin shoveled to the maidan and
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everything that happened later, that is, it raised the question let's do it in a civilized way . yes, there is the same museum and so on options for the masses, but this did not happen, then this wave affected shot down these lemmings, uh, here's an example of chernihiv, well , literally as soon as the terrible shelling that chernihiv experienced during march and april stopped. literally in a week, the issue was resolved with them. similar to the kharkiv monument, the same bust of approximately the same time of creation, so it went to the historical museum there the same was the case with the monument to zhukov and the same - the mayor of kharkiv resisted as much as he could the renaming of zhukov avenue and the removal of this monument by those who realize that this war is not easy there either according to the territory there or what kind of resources no, this is
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just the extermination of ukrainians, yes, the final solution is now the ukrainian question and the presence here of everything that is one way or another related to our cultural and political space. god forbid with russia, it works against us and we must defend yourself as long as there is pushkin. by the way, there will be no lesya ukrainka on the central street of the city. this moment is important because we expect ours somewhere on the periphery. well, i think that a kharkiv resident will ask us where pushkinska street is. he will find it without a map. do you know a kharkiv resident, let's say hrushevsky street without a map , or if from the literature, kulish or kurbas, i'm sure not. and that's the big question , what do we nurture and how can we make it so that ours is primary and this is such a complex our diminutiveness is certain because this empire, yes , it is a planting of the marking of space, an empire, and it is
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primary, and our kurbas kulish lesya is somewhere there, or lesya ukrainka street is also very modest in kharkiv , well, in 2012, when kharkiv was expanded due to the addition of certain neighborhoods just then was and these iconic figures for ukrainian culture were used precisely for the nomination of these peripheral streets, i do not in any way want to offend the residents of these streets, it is very powerful for them that they have such people under their names. yes, they are immortalized in the names of the streets, but in the end, here they are again - the question is because their place, which could theoretically be occupied by kurbas, is already occupied, but conditionally pushkin. for example, if we talk about renaming , there are several methods. the modern ones that we have today are on the agenda or such neutral kashtanova street, sadova street,
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which will not tease anyone's feelings, well, conventionally, it is called neutral, positive names for gardens, there are gardens, all these eyes are cultures, and herbariums, well, it may well be, for example, in some districts of low-rise buildings but still, still , since the middle of the 19th century, there was a clear awareness that toponymy is a relatively inexpensive tool for the formation of a certain marking, just the placement of the formation of a certain, well, a certain order day of a certain identity, even so that they started to talk like that, so they started to use it, well, the communists were here . they absolutely destroyed everything they wanted and put their e yes, this
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was also in our history, so when we talk about renaming, of course, we must keep calm and common sense and use already developed methods of forming the toponymic space, and these should not be exclusively names. yes, so-called anthroponyms these can be symbolic names, er, such as there independence, there sobornosty, that is, which symbolize some er aspirations, the history of ukraine, these can be even today, it is popular, it is obvious , er, those military units that are currently defending our country, in fact, there recently, the cold war our 92 brigades or there are others, although the numbers in the names are also such a problematic story, the strategy is such that we must realize that we are cleaning up and then offer what we can offer at the moment, according to our calculations, it is 530 us that need renaming if we talk about the return of historical names, firstly, the historical
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city was smaller, therefore not every street has a historical name. names have now and which should be removed their historical and reaction was also contradictory my belt question you can deny because these names also seemed to a large extent during the times of the russian empire they can also be imperfect with from our modern point of view and completely irrelevant. well, of course, the city was absolutely right. less, some names can be duplicated, by the way, we offered 60, but in principle there were a little more of them, since there are already such, so we deliberately did not offer them so as not to duplicate their sound may resemble some russian surnames and so
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on, but the names are mostly connected with the names of the residents who lived on these streets. we have a writer johansen, yes, michael, uh , what does that mean ? the street was offered, uh, lermontovska, as far as i remember, he lived there, and it's consonant, too, the surname is similar. yes, it was historical. of course, we don't want to impose it. it's historical and remove the opportunity to immortalize the translator. well, there lived a person with a similar last name on a certain street. that is, it was a discussion in literary circles that we were a little accused of the fact that in this way we want to enslave the possibility of an eternal topic, what is it, and what do you see as the optimal way the selection of these names, who should participate in the final decision, not in the development of these options, and by whom the last word, well, obviously, it
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must be some competent group of people who know in this history, local historians, philologists , necessarily yes, so that we don't have here they are cute mistakes that we made during decommunization a-a not a bad way. i think kyiv went in this sense, that is, a working group of interested specialists was created. five variants of the name, electronic voting was launched and, accordingly, you voted for the one you wanted, the winner was determined there, the same working group worked to prepare a decision for the deputies , they voted there, that is, the residents of the city must decide it. well, first of all, we have a law that we provides prescribes that any renaming is possible after holding public discussions, it is also stated that as a result of public discussions there is no end er-e must be embodied yes, that is, we talked, we can
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prostatin the authorities can agree to the opinion and can to say well, i spoke well, so it is also possible and the law allows it to be done, but in the end , it still requires public discussions in any case, so without the community, there is no way, er , can such a vote be considered er, the same public discussions, because when terekhov offered four options for renaming moskovsky prospect he offered these four options, none of which personally suited me, but technically the vote took place, this is a separate resolution that regulates the holding of such of public discussions, the cabinet of ministers also approved, and the problem and fatigue is that i am in solidarity with you here, son, that i also did not like any of the proposed options, in the sense that it did not reflect the specifics of kharkiv history. it is difficult for me to say where these options came from, who generated them, but if this we don't
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feel that there was an approach, that is, if there was definitely a historian there, there would be some kind of izyum or chuguyiv road, tract or avenue, whatever you like, but it was definitely there, that's why i'm asking about the strategy. do you have one? it is a good opportunity for sen to offer his work to be included in this process. well , first of all, i don’t see the process yet. we were talking about processes back in may. they would have asked me to create such a working group with mary and apply there. let 's work there and create some kind of project. it's a great idea. i support it. i'm ready to get involved and work for it. it's good. we'll call you. yes, it's good. i've been waiting since may. the question is: to what extent will these proposals be implemented in real life? that's enough for me. worried last time, we mean the decommunization of
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two hundred. well, about 270 names were renamed, 40 of them were proposals put forward by the kharkiv toponymic group. that is, well , we have less than 20% of such a result. do you consider it a success? well, i think that this is at least a step in the right direction. i will offer an explanation . it may be that, uh, now is not the time for such toponymic changes from the point of view of the city hall, which need to fix communications and solve problems with the settlement of people with the humanitarian sphere, i don't see contradictions absolutely none and you know, let’s remember the photo that went viral on the internet, how quickly they changed the name of mariupol, mariupol to mariupol, yes . that is, pay attention now. from the de -occupation of our cities of the kharkiv region, what we
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see there is the russian tricolor everything has been repainted, everything has been repainted, and we are also quickly restoring ukrainian names. well, this story is what our raisin-occupiers called 15 yum, that is, even without realizing it, they do not understand, and it is correct that they are not at home here, because until recently that in kharkiv that in but in belgorod we could feel approximately the same, well, from the point of view of the tuponymic space, now decommunization - it changes a little , but still, there are still many moments like that, which are such chains, some of them connect us. i said at the beginning, either we or they, i don’t see the need to use any propagandistic techniques, that is, for us, for ukrainians who see death, there is no sense for foreign audiences, we need to
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show quality ukrainian films, mr. vasyliovych i welcome you to the first channel of public broadcasting. thank you for visiting us. we will meet right after the first showing of your film glare in kyiv, so i congratulate you on the premiere . fortunately, neither air pollution nor electricity restrictions prevented me from watching this film. these two hours everything was calm in kyiv this film i want to ask you a little bit about it i could serhiy vitaliyovych i melnyk serhiy vitaliyovych 78th year of birth of the donetsk people's republic with the purpose of committing of a terrorist act, such a specialization is general
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surgery, why was he detained today by the employees of the mgb of the ukrainian people's republic of ukraine, i fully admit my guilt, the device for the conditions of obtaining hydrangeas is not available since the name day, it can be conditionally divided into two parts, so the first part is the tragic experience of the main character in the war, and the second part is his relationship with your daughter for you, is this film more about the war or is it about some kind of intimate personal family things and experiences, so really the films consist of two parts this is the first part - this is the story of getting injured, the second part of trying to return to a peaceful life, of course, from
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the very beginning, the impetus for writing the script was an event that happened to me there, with my daughter, a large window flew into a pigeonhole, crashed and died, of course, but it left an incredible imprint, you could just see it there every feather was fantastic, graphic like that, well, i don't know , it was a masterpiece, and they saw it, of course. my daughter was 8 years old, and she started talking to me about life, death , whether i suffocated the body, what happens to the body after death, well, all these important things that we , children, are interested in. at first, they are interested at about the age of five, and then at 8:10 it is already at a different level. so i had to formulate something for her and at the same time for myself , because these questions, well, in general, well, there is actually no answer well, it is, but it is a debatable question, there are many answers. so, while talking about it, i decided to make a movie because at this age, children using games, some kind of game experience , they are trying to understand it, and i thought that it was
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visually very cool. and i started filming a documentary the movie filmed 5-67 fantastic scenes there, but then the story was stopped. unfortunately, it later formed the basis of the creation of this film, parts of this film. so i thought that it was really necessary. well, what to show this story of the relationship between a father and a daughter, yes, actually, me there with her daughter, the hero needs to give an injury, which is the most severe injury, which one can i think of, and which one, from that moment, the prisoners of isolation began to return, among them were stanislav oleksiyev, igor kozlovsky, and many others, and fell asleep information that is terrible information that is there is really happening, it was about inhumane torture and well, and that's why i was, of course, impressed by this information and decided to simply combine these two topics in one film. the episode with the pigeon is in the film glare.
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