now is a struggle and we would like to thank the president of the united states joseph biden for the fact that he clearly keeps the line of support for ukraine yes , at one time we criticized him a year ago maybe yes, but now we understand that he did not betray his convictions and did not betray the interests of ukraine, he does that what can he do, on the other hand, we would like to receive more help, and this is also logical, as we are talking about haimars systems, we are also talking about armored vehicles, the same abrams tanks. well , accordingly, we would like to help somehow to president biden, so that he would come to such a wise decision, in your opinion, how should we solve that story correctly, because the kremlin is undoubtedly threatening with obvious military solutions, and we don't even know at what level, uh, something. they didn't mention that kremer's events. and when they attack, i

would mention that this is the biggest influence for president biden every time there is a crime. it is necessary not only to support ukraine, but to support ukraine more, and i would say for president putin, how much he would not like biden to increase this aid, he can leave ukraine, but the biggest advocate, i would say for arming ukraine, is this russian attack and the same as we hear from the ministry of defense in ukraine that ukraine received the most tanks from the enemy, the more gunpowder there is in ukraine, the more these crimes are, because here we do not spread this information to the whole world, the more the whole world wants to help ukraine

п andriyu e please tell me how the americans react, well, in america they react at different levels to these statements of russia, in particular lavrov says that putin is still ready to talk with the west, but uh, on his own terms, about respect, he says something about the equality of ours, they know what is it? well, he assures that in the last six months, there have been several initiatives by the americans and some other western colleagues who asked for telephone conversations with the russian leader . well, but putin is waiting there, waiting for some kind of respect worthy of himself, well, that's what they say, like in america it is do they perceive them or are they even theoretically possible? at least we don't see any negotiations, we watch tv when i watch conversations from politicians, and some have the opinion that support for ukraine is curiosity in ukraine it has weakened a little, but i can

tell when such scandals come out from e-e medicine or e-e mention from the republican leader what, apparently, so much support is not needed for ukraine and when you re-read the message on the internet about- from ordinary americans, and i am not talking at all from work, but we can see the conversation that exists and we hear that there is support for ukraine from ordinary americans, and it's not the same way you hear oppressive leaders, not those in the house of representatives or in the senate, but we hear from our city councils because from our governors and from our state assemblies there we hear monthly announcements about support for ukraine and we do not do it so that they are stars, they do it because ordinary americans will turn to them why don't you

support ukraine and i think this is the most important thing that we see that there is no support for ukraine only from president biden, but on a general level from the head of the country to the head of the country, that is, a simple american, this to me raises our thoughts that this support for ukraine will not disappear even if there is a change of power, dear mr. dobryansky, i would like to ask you about the other side of the coin. maybe we are missing something in ukraine for example, if we are talking about the reaction of the american political elites to the events in ukraine, what is not liked in washington, if we talk about both the public part of this and the backstage non-public conversations, so what is not liked i can say that when someone reminds me of your tonya or political leaders that they are not

interested or do not like something, well, i will simply turn to crime, and i know you are asking how ukraine can help, but really all the work is from the enemy is this whole list of books full of crimes. what else should be helped in ukraine so that they follow what happened there? this is the most important thing and it is the most influential. as i mentioned , the most important thing is that more and more americans and that is, government officials visit ukraine and we are ready in cooperation and it started with america only three weeks ago, the head of the president's office, mrs. yarmak, to a meeting with various leaders via zoom in america, and he is ready to transfer any information or, er, probably even transfer his own tanks to america the russians so that they personally see what it is that

american weapons are helping ukraine right now, it is an interesting moment, and the prospects are that the russians are destroyed. i don’t know if there was a parade or a certain parade . everyone will not see how many bodies there are, that an army of tanks that were bombed exists now in ukraine, and i think that not only we need to send american government officials to ukraine, but the more uh, such exhibitions, we had a very interesting exhibition russia's criminal e-e here in new york and during the e-e un general assembly but we need to expand it to the whole of america and it should not be only in one, the main wars in

your country were over, each and every center should have such a pogoryansky with new york to us joined the communications director of the ukrainian congress committee, well, really, it should be diplomacy and cultural diplomacy, uh, just to hold a parade of burned and destroyed russian equipment, for example, in texas. well, what could be cooler, and let's see the interview of our colleague yuriy fizer with the member of the european parliament, viola von kramon trau-badel how the european union reacts to mass attacks on critical infrastructure of ukraine and to what is happening and what russia is doing on the territory of the sovereign country of ukraine, watch the interview yura-fisera it was antinburkovsky with you today we stay with the press congratulations my name is yury fisera relations between ukraine and the european union

achievements and what we still need to work on in order to form this union between us and for ukraine to come out to the european family as soon as possible about this and other things. i will talk to my guest today. this is ms. viola von cramon. a member of the kenyan german alliance of the 90s, the green party from 2009 to 2013, she was a member of the bundestag and in 2019 was elected to the european of parliament congratulations ms. vonkramon thank you for joining us today i sincerely thank you for inviting me again let's start with the fact that on october 10 we saw another change in the nature of the russian war in ukraine russia fired missiles at us and it was the largest attack since the beginning of the war in february

this year the european union somehow will react to this , if so, what will the reaction be? i think it was a well-planned strategy that did not arise at one moment, because it is obvious that putin will seriously lose militarily on the battlefield, it looks like this what the liberation of the territory is going much more successfully than anyone could expect outside of ukraine putin is in a very tense situation, especially inside the country, so the only way to defeat ukraine before winter is of course to attack the civilian infrastructure, the heating system and the entire

material and technical base necessary for wintering, what is the eu doing we are preparing another package of sanctions and of course we are still discussing the so -called price threshold for gas and this is not an easy discussion, there are very difficult questions about how carry out this procedure situys and audi a how to purchase gas on the international market and on this issue i still do not see agreement yesterday the heads of state discussed it very intensively next tuesday in luxembourg there will be a

continuation of the meeting of energy ministers and i miss that there will be another summit on this issue i would like to remind you that for quite a long time we lobbied for an increase in military support against air defense, tanks, various weapons, everything that helps ukraine protect civilians, protect of our own citizens, to protect cities, energy facilities, help, which is very relevant now, and i hope that we will be able to respond more quickly to this challenge, in principle, become like this, you started talking about weapons for ukraine, in one of your interviews, you talked about supporting ukraine and i i will quote weapons and money. this is what matters today. this position is shared by the ukrainian authorities,

or everyone in the european union is in solidarity with this phone. there is a lot that can be done to help in poland, for example, there are still two and a half million people forcibly displaced from ukraine and more and more people are coming from the eastern regions of the country, some people usually return home, they also need support because they are hoping for a decentralized heating system, i met a group of advisers of the kharkiv city council at the regional level, they are developing a plan to survive the winter in them there are many homeless people and of course we are trying to activate assistance at various levels, is this enough? of course not, i

mean that people continue to suffer from military there is not enough support in places where it is needed, of course i can imagine how much money ukraine lacks, in particular, it is about 5 billion euros per month for managing the state, there are fewer bilateral contracts of the eu, individual member states contribute to a large extent to ukraine winning this war, but this is not the end of the story this war is not over ukraine this war is not yet won - this is not a short-term sprint this is a long exhausting marathon and we must make sure that we can activate the necessary financial support others types of assistance also and next year after the winter it is important not only for supporting ukraine now but

also for the reconstruction of the country and military support in the winter so i agree unfortunately it is a long marathon and thank you very much for your support and help during its passage let's get back to what we started with to the shelling of ukrainian citizens and ukrainian infrastructure immediately after that german chancellor ofsholtz convened an urgent meeting and this was done at the request of the president of ukraine volodymyr zelensky how do you do you think that the world leaders will somehow be able to put pressure on putin or at least influence him to stop what he is doing now i think there are certain signs that putin is really politically isolated in the summer we saw the shanghai cooperation organization ourselves and recently we saw another so-called summit in astana and even from his

best friends, dictators such as kayiv rahmon and others, he did not receive any financial, moral, or political support, which he expected, instead, they openly criticized putin in front of the television six months or 8 months ago, they would not have allowed such a thing, and i am also not satisfied with the whole situation. we watched the impressive vote at the un general assembly and the support that ukraine received there. 144 votes for the resolution condemning the annexation of new regions of ukraine, so i think that it is important now not only

support from us europeans, but also countering disinformation about russia's hybrid war, which still continues to hover in remote regions. yesterday i had the opportunity to talk with several human rights defenders at the conference on alternative security it was people from the middle east africa and asia they have no idea what is going on and why we have changed our security paradigm and we need to explain to them that we have to invest in africa i spoke to some of your fellow citizens now they are going to go to africa explaining in nigeria, sudan, ghana, in other countries, what is happening and what is this war of fasting, they are mainly fed with this russian disinformation, so we must support them. there are a lot of vulnerable groups of people

they are starving they are affected by the food crisis we have to make sure that they are of the same opinion with us then putin will not be able to win the war because he will be completely isolated but it is a big job and for this we need to stay together in europe in the european union will it be possible let's wait and see let's to work together to try to do everything possible but i see how much has already been done in support of ukraine putin cannot win this war he will not win because we have our own army and we have your help and support thank you for we are debating about putin's threats to use nuclear weapons and other weapons of mass destruction, do you personally

think that he is serious, amen , putin's style is to destabilize our societies, he knows exactly what is needed for this, he knows what kind of reaction to expect, in particular, from german society after nuclear threats, or is he that seriously let's see if we should listen and retreat oh never and we should stand firm especially watching the situation in ukraine and not let his words stop us really the potential consequences for putin and russia will be

serious and significant and they will destroy not only him but also many of his allies in russia. i think that the president of the prc also told putin about this. i believe that there is a certain red line and this red line is definitely the use of nuclear weapons by ukraine. i am almost sure that this is a limit that he will not cross. but of course he is playing with it now, grasping for the last straw, but i very much doubt that he will

use nuclear weapons against ukraine or against any other state or other threat that comes from russia and i mean gas blackmail bloomberg recently wrote that germany has no plan to deal with the russian energy threat so my question is how germany overcomes this energy crisis and what does it plan to do in the future russia no longer supplies us with gas because we are already fully independent indeed the energy price crisis is very serious and obvious and as a result the industry is suffering we are trying to buy many cubic meters of gas from other autocrats is also a moral dilemma for us

not trading with russia is one thing, but getting gas from azerbaijan, qatar and algeria is not much better either, so at the moment we have to replace part of our gas with fossil gas from other suppliers in the future we would like to switch to hydrogen the chancellor together with our energy minister robert habek went to canada to sign an agreement with the canadians on the construction of wind power plants and then transfer this energy to hydrogen, which will be transferred to europe, this is of course a good project, but it will take time to develop planning technology as such is not at a high level

so that it can be used immediately we also need to find more potential energy saving measures and i mean that even despite the better situation compared to ukraine, we still use energy, it is possible to save on an individual level but not only us developed a broader program of energy saving measures that need to be implemented it is one thing to have something on paper to vote and ratify it, and another to put it into practice for this we do not have enough a lot of manpower and materials in fact there are many things that have a lot of support from berlin and a lot of political will from our ministries but in the end at the stage of operation

we cannot deliver because it is not up to us so we are really fighting the crisis by doing everything it is possible even at the european level, at the european level, some states managed to secure themselves even before the war and they did not fall into an energy trap, the way out of which is the search for an alternative to russian gas prices for all of europe now the supply is increasing, there is a shortage, and the demand is too high, we will also definitely have to help ukraine with gas and energy, i spoke with the representatives of moldova, who suffered a lot from this energy crisis, because it is 100% dependent on russia, they do not yet know how they will survive this winter. so, if you look around then this applies not only to berlin, not only to germany, but indeed to the whole of europe and to our closest neighbors

, mrs. fund. i have to ask you this question. in ukraine, germany is often accused of it does not give us enough weapons to fight against russian aggression. how fair do you think these accusations are? it is partly true. i think that at some point we must decide whether we will give ukraine western technologies, including leopard tanks, so far there has been no official request, but i hope that the federal the security council will give the green light if such a request comes at the moment we have 2192 leopard tanks across europe in 13

different countries, none of which have applied at the government level for permission to export them so far it is about circular agreements with various member states and then they supply old weapons as in the example with slovakia with greece and other states. i think that in order to truly support ukraine at the military level, we need to make this decision regarding leopard tanks as soon as possible because they, together with other systems can radically change the situation, i would like the chancellor, his consultants and his advisor to have a different position on this issue, we are pedaling with all our might

because we understand that for ukraine it would be powerful help, because your country is technologically developed enough to deal with these weapons, but at the moment it is still not clear when these weapons can be exported to ukraine. these systems are not in stock, we simply do not have them, they are now being manufactured and will therefore be transferred to ukraine. thank you. i hope it will be as soon as possible ms. von kramon at the end of september accelerated accession to nato how do you assess ukraine's chances

of joining the north atlantic alliance it is difficult for me to make assumptions i believe that we need to make sure that ukraine will receive real security guarantees or individual security guarantees from certain eu and nato member states i would like to remind you that this issue requires a wider discourse and discussion for example, there was an article written by the former secretary general of nato, anderson fograsmusin , together with the head of the president's office, andriy yermak . but i believe that such contributions and debates are necessary start also here in berlin, in addition, we

need to explain to our citizens what it means if ukraine becomes a member of nato, because many people are either in favor or are quite skeptical. however, i think that we should open space for debate on this issue and so far we are lagging behind on this and my last question to you for today, ms. von kramon, in june, ukraine became a candidate for membership in the european union, how should we as a country build our diplomacy, both external and internal, so as not to remain a candidate in the future for many years, we have to live up

to expectations everywhere. i think that there is a window of opportunity. i am watching how my colleagues in the verkhovna rada and throughout the country are really working in an extremely disciplined manner on all the issues that the eu commission entrusted and handed over to the government of ukraine. this is a really serious signal and proof that ukraine wants to join the eu, that they are taking all the necessary measures, but we will see what happens next in the first progress report. maybe at the beginning of next year, in march, april. what is the next stage and next steps, whether it will be about the internal market , something, for example, including roaming and other

types of access, or what would be important for your citizens, or more political deepening of relations, etc. is extremely difficult to judge now, but of course we in the european parliament are all for we will help our colleagues in the verkhovna rada and other institutions, if they need support and with some specific questions, we will be there and help them pave their way to the european union, where i am a case in the ukunion madam thank you very much for joining today thank you for your sincere answers and most importantly for all the help and support we receive from you