hmm, again, what logic will overcome the pressure on ukraine not to shoot at the ships of the black sea fleet, or maybe more than once, and in the course of the war, in the process of deoccupation of the territory, these courts, which are the courts accompanying the grain agreement, the main threat to it can simply be simply removed out of order or to sink, but in these two extremes, in my opinion, there will be a dialogue, because i already find these insinuations from the un and not only them frankly annoying. in what sense is it when they say that there are ships provision or escort of grain ships or the grain agreement, for some reason they are silent about the fact that they do not need to be provided or accompanied, they do not need to be shot at and there is no need to threaten to shoot at them. regarding the history of

sevastopol, he said that he knows where the grain truck that transported explosives for the podryvokerch bridge and when they know it, if you know, it will be a device to stop the land deal, that is, they are running all the time with the grain of the agreement so that no one thinks anything and so on, now, well, a new stage when, well , it’s very convenient. let’s say that a certain ukrainian operation fell under the kremlin’s motivation. get out of this very agreement or blackmail with withdrawal or suspension . by the way, you reminded me when it was absolutely on odesa, the minister of foreign affairs of the russian federation sergey lavrov said we are not going to stop any military actions and the grain agreement is not a reason for us to stop military actions and change the priority of the objects on which and now that ukraine has essentially done the same thing as russia did in odesa, and

ukraine accepted the rules of the game, and i will repeat the game of chess , you can play together. it doesn’t grow here maybe someone wants to see just geographically look where the sevastopol bay when where are they uhu a safe place in quotes from the snake during its occupation goes the route of the so-called grain agreement from odesa and beyond that is, all the tsivoks, nor the bands and companies, well, they are completely inadequate in my opinion. everyone understands this, but they do not always respond adequately. well, when we talk about general syrovykin. by the way, uh, and his current actions. i also want to address this. we understand that the syrovyks are not you can probably give something voluntarily, because the fate of general lapin, who was simply removed from his post after he surrendered liman, will be waiting for him, so it is absolutely obvious that despite the fact that the russians

say that everything is going according to plan with them -e big there are no plans observed, of course he cannot afford to be latin, at least considering the fact that special tbiliv grandmothers say that he is in another group around the kremlin, he is together with the kadyrov and the beautiful cook of putin, who seems to have passed and there are signs of this, trends of this are in tough, let's say, the opposition to the curve there, shoigu gerasimov and the military in general, and considering even the sharp ones around lapina. of course, this is a certain ipso or sketchy fan that he was taken out there, their body was fished out of the moscow river, but it is so of course, these are rumors, but the appearance of such rumors is also a symptom. well, they can mock each other, well, you know these people. they already have such boyish customs, and this is also wonderful. and we support both teams. that these two teams are also a

fiction of the kremlin to a certain extent so that everyone thinks that there is such a real confrontation well, in the end, who is so beautiful, who is who, what is his putin, what is he resting in you, and has been stealing him since the 90s russia for as long as i can remember journalists, this is what i mean all the time, i hear that serhiy, i stole something here somewhere, or as a minister, of course, situations, or as uh, he was the governor of the moscow region, the minister of defense was denied, after all, it was in the past tense, i agree with you what could it be an element of the game in the style of a professor of nightingales that will not bury putin from a terrible disease in his feet , i agree here, but on the other hand, there are trends and the opposite , because well, for example, it's not a secret for anyone what, for example, the same beauty in the logic of this yes

of the so-called partial mobilization, exclusively instrumental, without relative motives, you can not surrender the formation of your own vertical control of armed groups, you can say that it is alternative, with all that, snacking , pressuring the ministry of defense to receive equipment from its own units, this was also difficult, and surovitin is considered to be his man. well it has already become so common for jesus to say that assertions from the other side, i agree with you, well , at least now, to remove from the public the fact that his or hera, well, it is zymydzhy for image reasons with the kremlin will not do any information losses. and how it will be derailed internally, we will contemplate and this by the way, this situation as well. by us, and now we will turn to oleg ustenko, adviser to the president of ukraine on

economic issues. greetings, mr. oleg. greetings. i have not seen you for a long time, so let's return to the subject of the grain agreement and still understand with you uh, first of all, what will this country lose if russia does not return to this earthly agreement, the international resonance is understood, the consequences for africa are also understood now, but for us, well, there are many consequences, as you correctly say, for the world and for us, well, in principle, do not forget that ukraine is one of the important suppliers in general on the world food market when it comes to ukraine, if ukraine does not supply its grain to the world market, it means that there may be from 200 to 400 million people and this is not about the fact that they simply will not add, it is about the fact that they may die in general from the fact that they do not receive food in this sense. that is why the

question is so tough now about that you don't dare to block this agreement at all, that is, for the world. well, the consequences are simply colossal. add immigration . opportunities and the opening of their own channels for the sale of their own food, and in this way they will try to work like scenarios with energy. that is, they will simply try to make weapons out of grain, which will then simply hit all over the world with you since they did it with energy, as far as we are concerned, we are an export-dependent country, if we are talking

about our own food security in general, then our needs from the point of view of food are not so great. 20 million tons of grain per year, and we are talking about what we will, that is, we plan or forecast that this year will be collected much less than in the previous year, but we are talking about well, at least 60 million tons, that is, well, let's say at a maximum of 20 for our own needs, 40 million tons is what can go into the world and these 40 million tons, well, this is what will depend on, well, at least in this season, 200 million human lives in the world, uh, that is , we are talking about such a plan of things if we are talking about about that, uh, will it hit ours? the economy, the war is hitting our economy, and everything related to the black sea is hitting our economy as well as everything else, but not because it is

necessary to understand right away that the main argument is not our economic condition, but the main argument is the fact that russia is trying to continue to sow chaos in the world is working according to the same scenario as it worked with energy, if we are talking about our own agricultural companies, well, this means that they will simply continue to use non-sea corridors for the supply of our grain on the world the market is yours, it is more expensive, but it is also possible, that is , we have an alternative. if you look at the month before the war, you will see that approximately 5 to 7 million tons of grain were delivered monthly through the black sea transport corridors, if we are talking about after the war then in the first months there was generally 0, and the share of the former increased by drying

through uh, non-sea corridors, we were able to uh, increase our supply. well, to about one and a half million tons per month, one and a half million tons and 7 million, or five dashes million that we delivered through the sea, the world will not be able to survive without our grain, so it is not even appropriate to talk about our own losses here. i am not saying that the war will end soon, if it ends soon, we have opportunities to store this grain , they are limited, but they also exist, we just follow it we will sell further, he agrees to wait for it, then those countries are those people who will simply be geneticists from hunger. well, do you understand for yourself why vladimir putin did not solve this famine and this migration crisis, to organize what

half a year ago, why did he go to this agreement at all if it turned out that he could completely calmly leave it and count such children because it is not just putin, but russia is playing several cards at once, having in the first place the fact that everything is happening on the battlefield, first they played this card and now they are trying to play it , they are playing a card that is related to energy, they were sure that the energy card would give them the opportunity to simply win any which war already directly on land and the third card they play everything related to food security they knew it from the very beginning 24 by the way, that's why on february 24, when russia's aggression against us began, it was

there two and a half weeks before we were supposed to start the spring field work in our farm is so productive that we have to start it somewhere in the third f third week of march and finish it no later than the end of april, and that is why we were not able to conduct an agricultural company effectively at all. this year they knew and they tried to play this game from the very beginning. by the way, why on the 7th of uh , march uh, then we made such strong statements about this, why uh, at the beginning of march, i also published uh, an appeal uh to the global finanshall time community, this is exactly what the question was about. we warned that this is exactly the kind of plan they will play, and they will try to deploy the

russian federation scenario. it was clear, but it was also clear that neither that scenario nor the energy scenario, nor the scenario related to grain at all. will be able to work energy is no longer working e sanctions that will now be imposed on the oil industry of the russian federation e look on youtube the information they are trying to promote even through such world e-e mass media e c- they are playing they are playing in this direction and they will play also in the direction of food and that is why putin said that we are ready to supply grain to the world market and we are talking about almost 50 million tons because they have collected or i plan that they will collect 150 million tons of grain what by the way, it is not confirmed that the majority of the international expert institutions that deal

with this agricultural issue and in the best case they will be able to supply the world market with 30 million tons of grain, well, imagine our harvest of 60 million tons this year will be 20, this is simply the most this is what we need for our internal use and we have 40 million tons that we can supply to the world market and they did not understand that they will not have money from oil in the future they will have serious problems used funds from gas and there will not be funds from grain, it is clear that they are already trying to push their purely commercial interests, including commercial interests, now they are not trying to work for ours, so they are, until this time, we will not let the world die of starvation, and therefore yesterday they were talking about the fact that they are ready to put

500,000 tons of grain on the world market without compensation, just what are we talking about, 500,000 tons of grain when the flower needs 40 million, well, what are these games about, what are these games about , this information is for internal use in part and about the free supply of grain and often ours are not the poorest countries, although the poorest countries fully understand from whom this problem comes. and then there are speculations about where ukraine supplies its grain, whether it is necessary or not to one or another country at what price, well, that is, in my opinion, it is better not to talk about the economy at all, especially about the economy that concerns agriculture, especially in the case of russia, when they are trying to

simply hide their judicial and military interests for with this rhetoric, the house of measure will die of hunger, as were the statements of their minister of agriculture yesterday . give me a short answer to a practical question. you understand. you definitely understand why the dollar is cheaper . in principle, this is such a global issue. well, if we are talking about ukraine, you can see that during the last week, our situation has improved. on the interbank foreign exchange market, we see that demand decreased by currency, the decrease in demand for currency made it possible for the national bank to gradually continue to add to the

country's gold and currency reserves. and plus, in the previous week, there was a lot of positive information about how much financial aid ukraine will receive during the next 2023, when the currency comes the country has the ministry of finance will not continue to keep it in their own pockets, they will partially exit this currency on the market, they will sell this currency, and the national bank will be able to dig up this currency, that is, such additional pressure on the depreciation of the ukrainian hryvnia will not occur, and therefore, against the background of these news, you remember that in berlin it was confirmed by the fundals whether ukraine will receive 18 billion euros of financial aid in the next year, and then there were statements about additional

support from the international monetary fund, and even earlier we heard statements from the united states of america, this means that currency will enter the country, and if the country receives currency, even without looking at the fact that we have well, simply essential there are problems with our trade, and the plus here is that, in addition , our exports are limited again by such objective reasons, which consist in the fact that we are simply at war, but this does not mean that there may be some inconvenient things with our currency policy by the way, our reserves are at a fairly good level, they cover three months of imports, well, that is, if it were not for the war, then we should expect a general strengthening of the hryvnia game with you, but the war makes us think that we will be in that corridor in which er where we are now, if you look at the state budget, this is an additional argument. well, the state

budget for next year foresees a fluctuation of the exchange rate, well, within the range of 40 hryvnias to 44 hryvnias at the end of next year, that is, there are some reasons to think that there may be problems now i would not stand here is the cause of a more global she should cross the screen now i think there are reasons of such a more global nature, let's say the reasons are related to what will be the monetary policy of the united states of america in the european union and they have a high level of inflation, they will twist the nuts and bolts in terms of the fact that they will most likely raise their accounting rates and there will be capital transfers from euros to dollars and in the other direction. well, there, well, this is more of a global game that uh, we can't not influence it

, we can just observe it. i think that in terms of our uh monetary policy, everything is more or less uh, it is possible to predict the predicted, but the only factor that uh adds such a risk to all the forecasts that currently concern ukraine - this is war military action the sooner it will end with our victory, the better it will be and the faster our economy will develop. thank you, mr. olezh olegostenko, the adviser to the president of ukraine on economic issues was in touch with us. igor eisenberg, professor of the nyorsk institute. congratulations mr. igor igor zimbach. i want to discuss the unexpected statements of representatives of the russian leadership. this is the press secretary of the president of russia. dmitry piskov, minister of foreign affairs of the russian federation, sergey lavrov, they again

started talking about negotiations, and it seems to me more serious than it was until now, and about negotiations with the west, almost nobody talks about negotiations with ukraine . the moment before russia's attack on ukraine, when the russian federation came out with a large document in which it proposed to prohibit the expansion of nato so that nato would agree to it only at the expense of ukraine and georgia, but at the expense of all other former soviet republics, in general , there was an expansion in order to withdraw nato troops from the territory of the countries that joined the union after 1997, and now they are proposing to discuss this fifth. by the way, it seems to me that president biden already tried to offer president putin a dialogue before the start of the war. well, we can see the result. well, before the start of the war, when was the last time the president was there? he spoke with the call sign. he started at the very beginning of february, somewhere in the first in the week of february, one suggested returning to the

dialogue well, but putin putin did not want to return to the dialogue and for the time being, the president made it a condition of any negotiations with russia that russia go to de-escalation, which in the understanding of the united states determines the withdrawal of all russian troops from ukraine. at least i understand that from some of the american officials, and not before now, one thing is that at least a return to the line of contact on the eve of february 24 will be a condition for any negotiations between the combined states and russia, but i heard such statements somewhere , somewhere. it was in march, after that, the public side did not make any statements at all that it could go to some kind of victory over russia. well, i have never heard that only for the

president i said that the only thing he could think about, whether to talk to putin, is about the release of two american citizens who are convenient in russia . and why are they, in principle, then talking about it? it's just an attempt to sow such confusion among the allies. well, i think so - the first this is an attempt to sow trouble among the western allies, and it can have some kind of influence, let's say on the congressional elections in the united states, but it must be taken into account that russia will lose the war to them , well, from the military point of view, the military plan, it is losing the armed forces ukraine is being attacked, russia is imposing huge fines, therefore, 950 people were required to be beaten, that is, they are looking for, they have probably started to look for some way out. well, i don't think that the united states will start negotiations

, because if russia does not fulfill the conditions, that is, at least like me, i think that if russia decided to return to the front line on february 23. well, maybe . then contacts would be possible. otherwise, i do n’t imagine that the biden administration will enter into any negotiations with russia. well, in principle, how do you think? now we can talk about consolidated tables, but now we saw in the washington post an entire text dedicated to the fact that the republicans oppose the transfer of frozen russian assets to ukraine, firstly why, and secondly, why, and here you see the united states, what an internal political game because the elections well, somewhere on november 8, actually, they are already leaving. for example, i voted yesterday in most states in all states, uh, early, early, many people

vote, i am not surprised by the position of the extreme right wing of the republican party, because this position is de facto favorable to russia. why? it can be discussed, i don't know if you would be interested in devoting a separate conversation to this well, it's just the ultra-right krylov to the republican party, it is very strong, it is very influential today , it is not in the majority of the republican party, but his influence is very great, that's why even this establishment of the republican party well, he is forced to reckon with this wing, that is, he is forced to take steps that would satisfy this right -wing wing in the democratic ultra-left wing of the democratic party only at the beginning of last week, in fact, well, i even wrote this in

one from these data, write a letter in which i would ask him how their views differ from the views of former president trump, reviews of marjuri and yegor krid, and the views of the republican leader, pavel, representatives makardy it’s nothing, it’s just from different sides , it’s the same thing, even though the democrats came here, they gave up their letter, they withdrew it . well, it’s still the same, it’s the same extreme or extreme , they always coincide, uh, from different sides, but they coincide today at one point eh i think that if the elections had not ended eh november 8, the administration was transferred change your position eh the results of the elections may complicate the allocation of budget funds for aid in ukraine but the foreign policy of the administration will not change and i i hope that the current congress will work until january 3. after the elections, he will return to the session,

because he tried the session now. at the end of the 23rd financial year, that is, until september 30 of the following year, there were literally a few minutes left to talk about the topic of such contacts between president biden and the president of the people's republic of china, xi jinping, after which they began to say that your in principle, it is closer to an understanding than it seemed that before the last congress of the communist party of china , you have this feeling, i have this feeling, i have the feeling that joe biden's administration is looking and looking for points on which we could have an understanding with the leadership of the people's republic of china, ah, well, that is, it is first of all, first of all, it is the economy, because the economies are interdependent. that's why both the chinese and the

western, and the western, from the chinese, and probably joe biden and his advisers, she thinks that it is possible, at least because the economies is still independent, it is important for china to develop its economy, as it is important for the united states, other objections of the countries to develop their economy, is it possible to reach some kind of understanding, at least on some points, which could be agreed upon so as not to harm each other and in principle, to what extent do russian and chinese fit into this conditional axis, or can it be shaken, shaken, i would say that ideologically, it is hardly possible to shake it, because, well, two countries are totalitarian countries and places of totalitarianism

ideology unites them and makes them natural allies, but with regard to the economy, the situations here are completely different because the chinese economy, although it has taken a hit in the last two or three years, because of the pandemic and the consequences of the pandemic, first of all, but it is the second economy, and education is from it depends a lot on the western economy, just as the chinese economy depends on the western one, and they are very connected in this era of globalization, and the russian economy, well, it is actually only the export of energy resources from which most of the leading countries the world simply refuses to buy, that is, the russian economy is weak, and the sanction will be even weaker, that is, in this sense, the relations between the united states and china are

completely different. compare the relations between the united states and russia here and here. you can definitely count on the fact that for china it is more important to have economic ties with the west and support them than to pay with your economic ties to the west to support putin's russia thank you mr. igor igor eisenberg, a professor of the university of jura, was on our broadcast. and all i have to do now is to pass the word to the news service. my colleague rina koval is ready to tell you the news of this hour. i will get back to you in just a few minutes. friends , please, thank you. congratulations. i will tell you about the situation in different regions of our country. about the interception of the conversation of the russian occupiers and also about the statement of the european union regarding the blocked grain agreement, wait