infrastructure, they will call it military facilities, but by the way, lately they are not hiding at all, that's why they talk about the fact that they are hitting military infrastructure facilities and energy infrastructure, and the conventions generally forbid healthy friends to attack energy infrastructure because it is there are no military facilities, and even if it is connected somehow with logistics for the army, they will still hit the heating plant that provides the civilian population in the area, but this is a tree and they do not cover it up directly, the ministry of their electric power , they say that we should be in it, and this is already well, as they say, it is clearly slowed down by a comrade , therefore, in this case, they will be beaten again, terrorized again, but in fact, well, the mood of ukrainians is already different, we already have fines, there are no more now even in kyiv there is no electricity, there is also an air alarm, but there is electricity

, people have already learned to survive and will continue to get better every day, better to find options, so we will win, we recently faced the fact that in ukraine, i mean people who live, for example, in lviv, but also in zaporizhzhia, for example, today they spoke with a deputy of the zaporizhia regional council about the fact that, for example, there is a huge problem to buy a gasoline or diesel generator, so there is a big shortage, people understand what this is good er good option in case of power outages to move some kind of operational order or give some preferences to manufacturers of electric generators, wouldn't that be such a flexible response to the need to not no no no no no force people to overpay for these generators. well, actually, you are right. generators that cost 15-20 thousand

cost 100,000. well, this is very excessive. this is the first second that they will decide to hit the infrastructure objects. for the most part, it was plus the front territories, and generators are really important now, especially if you need to charge your mobile phone, have some rough information , eh, yesterday, by the way, in kyiv, it was completely bad with mobile internet with mobile communication ago it is really necessary to take some wi-fi points and points in order to charge, the state could, but the state still has a lot of challenges, and in fact, i need a mobile boiler house, i need my free generators of greater power, because if it starts to freeze, the media type will most likely be good ones continue to beat and life support systems will beat exactly when there

will be serious minus temperatures. if the system freezes, it is very difficult to restore it, if the pipes are broken, it is generally only after the end of the heating season, most likely and that a huge problem with which we have to work until today, in general, i will work from april, there were different plans, and now there are statements, and they were discussed in april that it is possible that it will be necessary to resettle whole neighborhoods of people who will be left from the heat supply systems without heat supply systems, we are making sure that now , the state could make a statement, it would uh, it couldn't , say, speak again, uh, a statement. these generators are so manual, in fact, they have become deficits, they will become even bigger, we need to find something as an alternative, we really need to look for some centralized solutions, schools, hospitals should become points of non-heating and points of possibility to

charge devices, but for example, this is already an ineffective solution, not quite the right solution, but now try to find an inverter that would give out the same power of a car battery, that is, start a car and to get at least some possibility of obtaining electrical energy. this is also an option. that is, we will already look for such options. inverters, the price is already a deficit, so we need to work on all fronts, and we really need to develop a clear algorithm. to understand that this happens calmly without memory, but every ukrainian knows the algorithm of what he does in the event of a situation, and if it has a reliable one, they

are working on it, but you say that if the system freezes , will the generators decide again, well, that is, people will privately connect their homes to generators, but if there is suddenly a pipe burst somewhere, then even this generator will not solve the situation very well, or do i understand correctly? well, in fact, the generator is more individual houses that can be connected if it is a high-rise or, er, really some old areas, pull it all out on generators it is impossible, why was the solution of mobile boiler houses developed, they move on wheels , the container of non-performance is connected to the network, thereby trying to preserve the ability to work with the heat carrier ah, well, this is, frankly, these mobile boiler houses cannot ensure the operation of the heat

-generating system, and they cannot provide comfortable heat supply to homes in multi-story apartments, and they can only provide so that the main equipment is being repaired here without limited heat generation, and there must be quite a lot of such boiler houses in ukraine, and they have very mobile, move quickly to places where it is needed, and that's why the generator has a lot of tops , uh, it won't do anything in particular, there are different approaches , someone says that it's possible on the roof, someone will say who what it is possible to combine several apartments somewhere on the balcony, it is important, but i don't want to remember the story , i once had a conversation with georgians when they had problems with electricity and heat supply in the 90s, that they really had small houses and many out-of-the-way houses we were looking for options to find

water, but well, anyway, winter in georgia is more favorable for passing than in ukraine, especially somewhere where there can be serious disadvantages, and here you have to consider and what is the price of such a mobile boiler house? well, it can be different capacity but if we talk about the solution options, if shortened, then it can be 500,600,000 hryvnias. but now i am talking about the prices that were previously, if it is of sufficient quality in the french group, then it can be a million, a little more than a million hryvnias, this is a solution that is installed in a container and we are looking for a connection point if these are electric boilers, because we have bd points,

production has stopped, it is possible to measure power and there you can connect inverter boilers , it is easier if it is diesel generators or co-generators that need to be connected to the gas network or directly to diesel engines, well, these are more complex boiler houses, more expensive, there is another aspect, indeed, if we take on such a large number of generators and are looking for some alternative sources, such local ones in this hive, pressure on the fishing of petroleum products, gasoline, diesel, etc. generators are not the only cars to be evaluated or consumed, and this means that the number of touches will be increased here on this market. therefore, it is necessary to look at this question from different aspects and solve it it is necessary to create an energy headquarters that works online, that is, as the general staff

of the armed forces of ukraine is currently working, and to get out of this situation again without panic, absolutely calmly, something can be done, mr. sergey, i really believe in the power and flexibility and ingenuity of the market, and i really believe in the ability of local communities that always know the best way to solve the problem they are facing, are the local communities and local businesses sufficiently provided with the opportunities to respond to these threats, or do they need some more help or reduce the number of obstacles and obstacles. i think that now we need help because there is an option for a local solution. if there is none, he does not understand what he has, what they do not have firewood or pellets or chips, they can use it. they probably already have a solid fuel boiler house. it supplies the hospital and schools, and they are already

working on it and preparing for winter, and a person would not need electricity for the operation of automation for the operation of the pump group, they can find a generator and really maintain it in normal working order these objects are social and directly help nearby ukrainians. and if we talk about big cities where there is a centralized system, they talked a lot for a very long time. the local government will check all the issues and ensure measures are taken from the other side, directly with conversations with the mayors, what if they are trying to work with people and there are people, for example, in cities where there are broken high-rise buildings where we have two entrances but

people have returned, people are living, in fact, it is impossible to do repair work in this building, and it is simply more logical to build the new bykov building, which is nearby, and not people refuse to leave their apartments, people refuse, you can understand them, it is because they worked there, pressed all their lives, they refuse to leave, a- and the heat supply organization cannot give the temperature there and the type of nosiv because the networks there are broken and even with such cases it is difficult to work . options to survive the winter or er hmmm they went to offers to change their place of residence so er in fact i think that local er i have so many problems at the local level that where they

face i will add another very critical problem and with frontline cities and where in general in ukraine, this reduction in local budget revenues is much less now, e.e., production and business that pays taxes , especially in additional cities, and there simply is not enough money to cover these very urgent expenses, and it is precisely here that the state is forced and should help these cities and villages. we even have, let's say, organizational capabilities, they are trying financially, here is a direct train . this is probably being written by some cream people, they probably saw my jacket and it’s getting golden, they say they’re finally sitting in

their jackets, but uh, i didn’t dedicate it to you. and what else do you need to put candles to light them, let’s put a candle for putin and everyone and all the russian military and all those who support this war, but what is ahead because it is ahead and we are here, you are fine, we are okay, well, but these are generally such strange, strange reactions of people what do they like when other people suffer when others are uh-uh bad uh-uh, i would even tell my polish colleagues how sometimes there are kremlets or some flying uh-uh birds from where do they come in the comments and what they write and here my polish journalist colleagues are very wondered if it really or really can be an interesting imagination to create something to talk about as if other people were bad, to write about how the

language is not the same there or that ukraine does not exist, i already said about it once, yes, there is such a person, you can treat him differently and it seems to me that there is jordan peterson, before he became popular on social networks and boots, these are different people. yes, but he has a good opinion, with which i agree, about the fact that if we define what is absolute evil, then such concentrated evil without half- tones, this is the case when another person rejoices, feels the joy of pleasure from the fact that another person is suffering, that is exactly what it is to cause suffering and pain to another person and feel joy from this, to be angry, that is, according to his definition as such a conditionist, psychotherapist, psychologist, that is the definition of human evil to a person. it seems to me that it quite aptly describes this whole the situation with the

russians is like this, now i will surely cause them pain , you know how you know why, because it has already become quite warm here, so i take off my jacket so that you don't get excited, but that's the end of it. well, i'm stopping, but we're stopping the marathon here with us oleksandr shevchenko, head of communications of ukrzaliznytsia p oleksandr good morning, we hope you're safe, eh, don't neglect her . in fact, some sections of ukrzaliznytsia were de-energized. is ukrzaliznytsia somehow ready for such strikes and the restoration of which sections? is everything already okay before, because for us it is not

news to anyone, there are protocols and each case is actually what happened yesterday was another monday by rail because the maintenance is based on reserve technologies. which sections, as it was written yesterday, several sections just remained without electrodes and electrical solutions, and so to replace the electric locomotive, diesel locomotives were killed and they are minimally delayed. we now have all the key conditions, let's say so. -e backup power supplies e generators and so on that they turn on immediately and since the stations are now an opportunity in the northeast, it is not only us who pass through security computers

in addition, a coach so that everything was connected to us, even in the event that ukrzaliznytsia is in the hall , it shows quite a fantastic efficiency , as it is possible at such a time in europe, well, in particular, we remember poland a lot today, in particular, poland, despite the fact that everything is calm there, but in them how as a rule , the delay of trains is a phenomenon, in fact, it is normal, they are even laid out always in their route, that you can wait for a train for an hour, look at us , the railway has now become a strategic a-a

legal flag, because in fact all the others the options of large countries and the international court of justice, now other organizers allow and delay, we understand that the way the railway works now depends on the whole country’s transport artery, it is the first e-e railway has always been one of the e-e half and nervous structure in ukraine, so for us this is the mobilization of the class, in general, absolutely our railway workers. they immediately a-a rushed in their direction. let's say that because we didn't have a single railway worker from the first day of the full-scale party that took place. you will be on the flight and escort people and factor i would say that we have routes in general, we have an extensive railway system as such, that is , we have even in case of decommunicative rates there when the first persons of an individual

always go to us. accept the speed of movement. further , we have our own enthusiasm for predicting dangerous flights and guaranteeing our passengers in any case in fact let's say so in any passenger . if i may ask, i asked such a strange question recently, our colleague vadim karpiak yesterday, more precisely , had to spend the morning at the metro station of the university in kyiv due to morning shelling and uh. metro, why are there still busts of the lomonosov cannon and so

on, and the same question arises. well, if you knew how to say reproaches in russian. well, there are no ivans of my own - i am shooting, for example, there and so on and the like, as possible vernadsky, what you can to put these busts, but this is not a question for ukrzaliznytsia, but a question for ukrzaliznytsia. why is it the largest railway? yes, it is called south-western, because from the point of view of geography, it is neither southern nor western in the geographical borders of ukraine, and this is only an old name from the russian empire, the right question and i can even expand it, because we are now an organism , it is still a question of numbering, and anti-zombies are now even on the territory of ukraine, well, congratulations are coming from moscow, for this it has long been necessary to support technical stories from the inscriptions on the loading wagons the carriages that were accommodated are very archaisms that should be

removed a long time ago, the work is being carried out, but there or what time it must be completed if we speak the language and we will do it simply, it is again not a priority right now, tasks arise for us every day, there are more stories that need to be resolved, documents, what will it be to winterize the question because the terms are ru i think that such a year the goods in front of which and all the other toys of some kind of phenomena eh call the high postclonic where you can and so say yes eh oleksandr for the conversation oleksandr shevchenko the manager from the communication of ukrzaliznytsia was with us. well, i will tell you about, in particular, that ukrzaliznytsia will definitely arrive at the station

. er, gentlemen, we continue in the meantime and valery klochok, a political and economic expert, is in touch with us. valery good morning. i congratulate you. are you in kyiv now ? calmly well, i will say so i couldn't hear it yet, but from what happened yesterday, yes, i can say that it was heard well, i could hear and see the smoke window, that is, everything flew in and flew out, of course there is a lot of traversal information. do you think that this russian strategy is simply the destruction of the energy infrastructure of the energy infrastructure, will it

be effective, will it be effective for ukraine, will it be for ukraine, will ukraine be able to withstand this winter, and what should be done for this? whom to speak for muscovites, it is often effective, because yesterday ’s conference was so short-tempered, what is it called somewhere? forgive me for being so sarcastic, but i will still say putin, where he spoke about the negotiations and confirmed the missile strikes that in the past were his the face was clearly visible, how much pleasure and excitement there was. yes, when he knocks out civilians , he gets high from it. this is the nature of a crooked person. it is difficult to name biological beings who think that this way he can show some kind of advantage over something. this is the lower cost for many of his supporters and for many russians

. i don't want tomorrow i want because we are like that yes and against it turned out to be 8 years as they say so for them it will be a winning strategy yes even the tactics will definitely give everyone pluses purely on the level of ideological propagandist what they say look, we are still planting for them in the period, it is acids. and then i drew normally for most of the russians for ukraine, it will not be easy, but i just have no doubt. if we survive it, too. why, because many are ready for it, and now i even when i read there, i listen to people, well, ladies, we have absolutely no memory of a word at all, everything is fine. well, everyone reacts adequately, maybe it annoys someone there that they say there is no light for a long time, but we are so critical that people there take any actions

corresponding to the wartime, i will say yes, that is, everything is absolutely predictable in this part putin is already predicted, it is easy to calculate and we are ready for that in this part how do you have such success in this part, let them be happy and we are ready for this therefore everything will be fine, of course it will not be easy, definitely yes it will be a little worse in the future. maybe they are a little. maybe there is a lot more for lunch, but everyone always believed that putin is still a rational player, well, more or less , that is, he has them, show me, show me andriy , all of them. they want one who is rational and he is sick, you understand and apologize, but even he is sick and sick. he may even have his own logic. she may be perverted but logical, but today we simply see, well, at least what from yesterday's conversation of putin if he, well, if he did not inoculate with his soul and it really is. for example, yesterday's strike is revenge for

sevastopol and so on. this means that this is a person who is very often guided by his emotions in his decisions. i'm not, i wouldn't associate people at all with what he said yesterday. so that's the answer. yes, we can . more we can repeat, well, these are chewed-up phrases. and i am far from thinking that if, for example, there had been nothing after the sevastopol incident, then he is not a gnostic, we had er, for example, er, not that there is a precedent, but there are two more parsed missile strikes weeks ago well, it coincided with monday, well, in the morning well, already well, someone is talking about a regularity , i say no. this is a regularity. i woke up when i was ready. that's how it is done, so i can say that sevastopol was the cause. no, it just happened. well, it coincided, but here i have a question. and what were they thinking? that they have everything to stand or how they will deliver blows and no one will respond, well , this is also a false opinion, it is a sick imagination, a sick

one . the first letter of the beats is written absolutely in theirs, here, how do you talk about rationality, but it becomes actionable because every step he takes now is only in his composition, well, the goal he sets for himself, his goal, the destruction of ukrainians, was, unfortunately, often not apply as often as, for example, i would like to specifically define the genocide of the ukrainian people, we talked about it a lot, that at first it was a large-scale design. and now he is persecuting it, it is necessary to talk about it to the whole world, so then he persecutes them, but he will not be able to help them due to the lack of sufficient resources for this yes, otsya. this thesis will be completed in two or three weeks, rockets and so on. although it is already poorly perceived by

society, it is by and large i want to tell you that russia is really running out of very they are trying to mobilize the city there, schoolchildren are all considered to be sewing clothes , collecting some money for aid and so on and so on, so they are trying to show the patriotic war, but politically, this means that these are all the huge funds that the russian budget receives from the sale of coal, oil and gas, they stupidly steal, they don't have money for the army. today there is not enough good one, well, we have less than two minutes left until the end of this hour, so we will definitely thank valeria for the conversation, we hope that you will be safe, and that the missiles will pass by, or that is, they

will successfully destroy them valery klychok, head of the center for public analytics, the tower, the head of the charitable foundation, the new road, was with us, but in the meantime, there is an air alert, and actually, what has happened in the country during this time, anzhelika silenko, on the news queue, stay with the press. well, i can't come to terms with the fact that there is no more light and warmth in the house, it is scary as never before. they work honestly, i have to collect garbage . they want and it will be cool communal workers battalion and in ukraine here our front

is self-defence day and night desperate confident they swim the way to our victory yes yes the pride of the landslide les kurbas director mykola kulish, playwright valerian assistant director