the thematic ones that we previously conducted, they absolutely do not reflect the real picture, and formative assessment of students’ knowledge helps a lot here and there. these are large individual portfolios for each student and for the teacher’s work. we work a lot on this, panina, you know what i'm going to ask about, and about those children who went abroad, some of them will get an education abroad now, some continue to learn the ukrainian school curriculum, and some don't learn whether we won't lose a large number of students who will stay abroad. maybe they will study there and already in higher educational institutions, please er, well, i will answer today, we have the opportunity to work with such children, there

are several ways so that we do not lose a single child - the first is an external form of education for those children who have a sufficiently large and strong level of training, who can behave independently and use, for example, a completely platform, but our school has created a virtual educational space on the platform, tim and the children are absolutely involved in this space and when they have such an opportunity, i am a part of the children. let's say we understand how this is equivalent to our grades and we can

work with them, since we need to give these grades to the children in our camp, the only thing is that graduates of 4-9-11 grades, of course, they will answer and be evaluated, and our children have the opportunity to we they did not lose anyone, a very large number of remote schools appeared, not only private municipal schools, in every district of kyiv there are schools where children can join in the mode in which they can, so i really hope that we will not lose our children ms. inna i really wanted if we talk about the graduation classes to a greater extent, because now there is no understanding until the end, and what will happen or well, this is the ninth grade , too, because there is a dpa there, and what will happen when this school year ends. god all will survive schools

there is a greater degree of understanding. is there an understanding of what the children will say about the exams? it will be like last year. well, how about this year, when we had this multi-subject or something else, because now everyone is studying. and what is the perspective? few people understand. and here in the verkhovna rada of ukraine i think that there is at least an opportunity to call the minister of education to ask if it is simple well, how can the representatives of the specialized committee also communicate with the ministry of education. is there an understanding of what will happen next , because what is now we somehow understand the gentlemen, tetiana says correctly, she is trying to adapt work, do everything they can, but please continue, thank you, they ordered, and will also respond to your question about security, because it is undeniable that the issue of security is now the key, and it is undeniable that neglecting security is not possible, but the next question then arises and how can we

guarantee the safety of children as best as possible, and here i will honestly say that i do not think that there is a single universal solution. it is good that parents now have the opportunity to make this decision individually. some parents decide that their children will be safer if they will be at school, and because at school during an alarm, children are guaranteed to go to the shelter. and they are there, while children who are at home, for example, number honestly. let 's say that it is far from always that children who are at home during an alarm go to the shelter and that is why there is such an approach. i personally share it, my son is studying offline and i know for sure that when he is anxious, he and his classmates are in shelter and he is safe, and of course it is also easier for working parents, it also opens up possibilities to actually work like this but of course the truth is that firstly, not all schools are equipped with shelters, about 60% of schools equipped with

shelters in ukraine according to the ministry of education and science, and the second question is related to your previous question about the psychological state the truth is also that, of course, some of the moles have very nice equipment, and the schools and the education department have made them bright, clean , and neat. in a bad condition, if it is so not very pleasant to stay in, if in the end there is no ordinary toilet water and some birds and e, then of course it will be traumatic for children, so probably one of the key tasks that should be done now this is the maximum resources i know that international partners are ready to finance it, to finance it so that the shelters are not just like that, and so that the stay in these shelters is not traumatic for the children, psychologically traumatic , er, it is meant well, that's why of course that's here

there is room to grow. here, different cities are suitable in different ways. in kyiv, i allocated some money for shelters , although we also understand that there are no limits to perfection and there is still much that can be improved. well, there are many cities, towns, villages in which this basin is in a bad state, and i i understand the parents who say, we don't want our child to be there, because it will be an additional psychological trauma for the children. well, coming back to your question about admission this year, see. this is a difficult question that no one will be able to answer for you right now, because right now miss world is considering two options for the entrance next year or it will be a national multi-subject test quite similar to what happened this year but i hope it will be improved because there were problems with this national multi-subject test let's say so, because of which one could doubt the objectivity of the evaluation, and first of all, i am talking

about the problem with the fact that since there were several series, several testing sessions, the children who passed in the later sessions had access to previous questions and they were repeated yes that is , children who passed later could receive questions and already receive answers to them from having the results having the previous tests in hand and if i make a decision about the national multi -subject test and the only test that is conducted online what i hope that at least this will be corrected, but the ministry of education is considering the possibility of conducting an external examination in a more familiar format . can't, but here i have to add a third point on the issue of admission for this year, yes, it's actually you , you said at the very beginning that maybe the topic is not so hyped, not so, let's say, it doesn't attract so much attention, and so on and so on there are not so many scandals, but i will tell you that the

appointment on friday of the new director of the ukrainian center for the evaluation of the quality of education and a person from the orbit of influence of the well-known regional maksym lutsky alarmed me simply beyond belief. but this is an extremely dangerous appointment, despite the fact that still has some influence as i understand it, dmytro tabachnyk is not only influential, but we also don't forget serhiy skarlet, the current minister of education and science. you understand, in particular, serhiy skarlet went to a conference in toronto with maxim lutsky at the expense of the state budget in order to attend a conference on civil aviation issues, which the relationship of the minister of education to the civil situation is a rhetorical question. but i think that here obviously i just wanted to go with a friend on a business trip to canada for 10 days with state funds . make a person, the same maksym lutskyi

is appointed the head of the ukrainian center for the evaluation of the quality of education. we have a danger, and i really hope that this decision will be changed, and because now the question is no longer in which format we will have admission. yes, in this format of the external examination or in another format of the external examination, now there is a threat that, in principle, it is the entire system of vocational training can to break and i am very, very, very worried about this , and i know that the verkhovna rada is also, to put it mildly , very worried about this appointment, so i will ask you a question, since you and your children work, in principle, the average and every day the war is the average stress now there is still a lack of light somewhere, there may be worries about a father or a relative who may be at war, or even perhaps an older brother, uh, worries about currents, there will be money in

the family, because now people also happen, well, in fact , children are under stress, uh, in a bigger way measures of course here central north eastern southern ukraine maybe to a lesser extent although again it is relatively much in the west because in the west there are also children from families where, for example, the mother may be with him and the father may be at war or something else, that is, now under stress in principle, all the children who arrive in ukraine, how do you manage to work with these children, or is it possible that psychologists are working more actively in schools now, what problems are they dealing with and how are the children in principle, from what you see, how have the children changed after coming back to school for several months for the whole the time of this war is spring, well, spring, summer, autumn. what are the children like now and how are they helped? maybe at school, they can cope with these stresses, how does it affect the educational process? the children grew up very quickly, in general, we in the team

set tasks so that the children understand that they are a support for their parents. this is the motivation that children should help their parents to be, uh, how to say i won't say that calm or that parents felt calm that the children are learning, of course , the class teachers work for this, the school psychologists work for this, we involve absolutely all the psychologists we can reach, who come to meet us for that lesson, every subject teacher tries to spend such a moment of emotional communication for the children and in general in the lessons the most important thing today is the psychological aspect of seeing the children and hearing the children, trying to get the children to open the cameras, if we are on a

distance learning format, if we are an offline school, we are absolutely trying to start september we had the opportunity to work on a mixed model in the month of september, october. i hope that it will continue. we managed to implement the school life plan as much as possible, that is, so that the children feel that school life is, you know, how it is. music and library day and in competitions and some for them. we even collected waste paper, that is, there are certain things that should be for children. values, children hold on, there is a school, there is a teacher, there is a

psychologist, there are parents, and we are all together, this is the feeling of unity, we are completely different, but we are equal, and we are relatives, this is probably what, today, can give us the opportunity for our children to feel protected, and for parents to feel that their children are cared for because when there is inner peace parents have inner peace of children that i am at least something what is stable, you understand, the school is trying, the school community is trying to work on it more already in the context of the war, i will ask the question itself well, maybe to a greater extent i am also the filling of materials. which children will receive a special humanitarian tripod, because of course, the exact sciences . well, you won’t throw out, say, from physics,

mendeleev-clapeyron or his familiken or something like that. well, that’s why well, even though these are soviet or russian scientists, well, where would you go without them, here or there? well, lomonosov was not particularly famous for his discoveries. well, in any case. science then we simply do not study these people, where it is more difficult in humanitarian subjects. and here is the question regarding the filling of the educational material, is it happening here, as they say, where is russification, decolonization, to what extent and how significantly? it's not that you want to offend someone, not offend someone who openly supports the russian position, the pro-russian position, it can be among the directors, among the teachers, among even the employees of e district e-e educational institutions, so to speak of these administrations and the like. how difficult is it to fight this or is it possible? as a deputy, do you know any specific countermeasures to this or is there a general line, etc. yes, we want to make our world a european one. we want to cleanse education of everything

that is ideologically and ideologically hideous russian russian peace, please eh thank you for the question and it is extremely relevant because literally before the inclusion of eh, i eh took part in a sub-committee meeting in the committee on education and science where my draft law was considered which is actually aimed at solving this problem, now i will come back to the bill later, but i am just continuing the discussion, you are absolutely right when you say that we have a lot to work on. and i, as a person who was born and raised in kharkiv, and my friends continue to live there, some relatives, i know and understand perfectly well the extent to which this russian measure has been infiltrated into the system of education and secondary education and higher education in the eastern regions of ukraine and the southern regions of ukraine, and of course what needs to be done with it to fight, but the truth, but the problems are even wider, because

even there in the same western regions and in the central regions, teachers also need support, and because so, what is ms. tetyana about, about what teachers are trying to talk about the war with children , trying to explain in some way but teachers also need support, and teachers, even if they are pro-ukrainian, they need to be helped to work, talk to them, maybe a psychologist can help, there should be some methodical materials for how teachers can talk to children about the war yes, because it is also very difficult, and here, even if, well, let’s say so, leave it in parentheses, so the question of discussion is how to get rid of the russian world and patriotic teachers, they need support in terms of how to teach them to talk to children about the war, how to talk about losses, how to convey this information, uh, what information to provide and how to work with children if their parents are fighting and if their mothers read or if someone died and

these are all very difficult things, i am very sorry that there is no national policy in this direction because we have there the academy of pedagogical sciences, whole institutes, etc. and so on, which should now offer these materials for teachers , yes, and teachers are now largely left on their own or there, well, in the best case, the directorate somehow works with them and but there are no single materials on how to talk about it and how to work with it . and it’s a shame because then, well, it’s a matter of chance. yes, there are conscientious and good teachers who will talk about it and try to do it. and there are those who will simply leave it somewhere in the party and and they will ignore it or worse. of course, they will promote the ideas of the ruskomir and that's it. i'll get back to the issue of my draft law. it seems that they were registered in the summer and now the committee is finally considering it

. it is very important and we need to do it, and it is a shame that it takes so much time. but believe me, even today at the committee meeting, i heard many arguments such as well, maybe not so sharply it must be done and so on. well, from whom did you hear such an argument? i still have to go through the committee meeting tomorrow and then the verkhovna rada meeting, er, i would say that at the meeting under the committee, i announced that there was a split of three against four, fortunately, four were on support for the draft law, but so that you understand. just how often, even under these conditions, the verkhovna rada is afraid to make lessons that for some reason are identified as harsh. well, here we are, and we hear different arguments about what they said there, and how read scientific works and so on and so on. well, i honestly do not understand why we are not automatically like that. i know that in the universities of kharkiv in

many educational programs there are texts in the russian language and there are texts by russian authors. this means that children who are there studying students, they must a priori read in russian , and although this is not a requirement for admission to the university, for part of the students it is traumatic and unpleasant, etc. a simple decision that it should be changed well, let's say this, the discussion at the committee was much more stormy than i thought was acceptable under these conditions, that's why we really have to work with this, we have to think about what to do with those professors and teachers who openly promote russian peace because it is formally written in our legislation on education that the state policy in the field of education and the implementation of the policy is based on the principles of respect for territorial integrity and so on and so on. but the practice is that it is far from always people

those who promote some russian values ​​are automatically fired. even in kyiv , we had scandals at the national medical university, for example, and when students already started to get indignant, write appeals and so on, but these are students and students, they are more mature , more conscious and they can fight for their rights more and what to do if this is a teacher in the fifth grade, yes, the children will not be able to understand that what they are being told is unacceptable, and they will not be able to clearly voice their position here. of course, what can we hope for that those who are taught will not be able to evaluate it is not worth it, and it should be some kind of state policy in this direction, which again, unfortunately, we do not have until today. i want to remind you that even removing russian authors from the literature program took as many as 7 months. the beginning of the war and the ministry of education could not formulate what actually they want to leave one work based on which it was bulgakov

's dog's heart the guiding role is there the ministry or some national institutions, there is very, very much that remains not to buy back the schools and of course i respect the principle of school autonomy yes, but first of all, schools need support, and secondly, well, there is an obvious contradiction with national interests. well, there should be intervention and the release of such clients. yes, please, mrs. tatiana, please, you know. no, i do not agree with mrs. inna that we are completely left one-on-one schools of their autonomy are today ours colleagues, we use both the educational platform and the platform for the lesson and general education. eh, unicef, unicef

, the methodological guidelines today allow us to use them to arm teachers - this is our weapon, and it is provided professionally. it is simply possible. to give them more publicity, let's say, but what there is and there is professional help, of course it is there in relation to the work of removing the russian yes, it was fate that i, for many years, in 85 school, there was, or rather, it was correctly said to satisfy the national minorities, so

it was decided by the state that we were and subjects were taught in russian, and you know that immediately after the invasion they stopped teaching russia and russian literature in russian languages , and we switched completely to the ukrainian language, and we were given the opportunity to provide textbooks in ukrainian, if not in print, then in electronic form for all children from the 1st to the 11th grade you understand, it depends on the position of the civic collective and each teacher, here i am certain and do not completely agree. and this is where we need to work on exactly this, because, unfortunately, in the great ocean of education, as in any water space, there is foam that hits and can create the impression

that everything is so bad, sometimes cases and individual cases cover a single general picture , but the fact that education is adjusted and that there will be no russian world in education i am absolutely sure of the answer and i will ask a very short question how do you do you think what will be done, how to prepare for what to write with children who now live and go to russian schools in the occupied territories, because this is actually a very big problem, literally, does the lady have more time and the new one will first need to have tools to assess their level of knowledge and because we do not understand whether they are taught there at all or not, and even in such seemingly neutral subjects as mathematics, and to evaluate their educational results , and in the end, not only them and the children who are under the bombs in kharkiv must also sit. yes, this will be the first thing

to do, but it is more difficult, but it is a relatively simple task, a much more difficult task to understand . to what extent was their psychology changed by training in the sub-russian regions under the russian occupation, and here we must admit that these changes took place, that these changes were traumatic and it will be necessary to think very carefully about how to help the children to rehabilitate after that. but i completely agree with ms. tatyana that even now there are many resources available to teachers my comment was about the fact that they are not state-owned, it is not the state that provides it, but other agencies, my comment was about the fact that there should actually be a state policy in our country , let's just live, ms. tetyana. what do you think, based on your experience, we will come to education ukrainian in this school they just need to be loved and accepted as they are, they should understand

that they are protected, that no one will break them, that their knowledge should give them the opportunity to critically evaluate what they know, what they can do and show them future prospects, what can they get in our state, how will they be protected by our state, and only the path of love and protection will give us the opportunity not to lose any children, thank you very much, we have raised many questions . we can see that the settings and to go through this difficult year from the people who work in education directly from the legislators of the new association of heads of schools in the city of kyiv and the director of the lyceum number 85 thank you thank you very much, very different sauce, people's deputies of ukraine who were with us, i wish you well and we wish you good work. well, dear tv viewers, i want to say that thank you for being with us. the future

of children is what we fight for what our army fights for why our soldiers die today and kill enemies on our land so that these children who study today in such difficult conditions have a future that we understood what this will be the future, it’s worth talking about, it’s worth working on it, and it’s worth changing something for the future , today we’re creating. networks, stay with the press. goodbye. we are looking for seven-year-old daryna chichkanova, whose fate has been unknown for more than 6 months, and the actual information about her disappearance is also a lie. i only know that the last time the girl was seen in luhansk region was on april 12 in the town of novodruzhesk. just 10 km from lysychansk, the territory is occupied , so there is no communication there and the situation in the region

remains quite uneasy, but i really hope that everything is okay with the child, so i am especially appealing to the residents of the north donets district of luhansk region, who may now see me on social networks, take a close look at the photo of the girl she has light hair and dark eyes, darina looks plus or minus seven years old, if anyone has seen her or knows where she might be now, don't delay , call us on the hotline of the tracing service of magnolia children in short number 116,000 calls from any mobile operator are free or write in telegram to the chat bot of the child search service i have another story of the disappearance of a child that i have already told about but i want to return to it again because important details have appeared about 15 -year-old olga popova, from whom there is no news for more than five months, i only know that the girl lived in donetsk region and it was there that she had to meet the war, the

last time she contacted her was on may 25, then olya was staying with her uncle in the village mangush is about 20 km from mariupol , the territory has been occupied for a long time and it is assumed that there is no connection there either, and therefore nothing is known about the fate of ola. of course, the man immediately turned to with a request to help find the child, and at the end of july, we even received information that a girl similar to the description was seen in odesa in a communal costume. there is such a call in russia. we received it already in the summer. of course, we passed the information on to the police, but we still haven't been able to find olga, but a new important clue appeared. very

recently, another witness called the hotline of the child tracing service, who also saw a very similar description. baby, i don’t know what i am, well, i’ll say yes because i’ll help, but uh, i was watching the program and here they showed popova olga, in my opinion, the girl is small, i’m not sure what she is, but she looks very similar to the man who called us hotline the line lives in lviv and says that it was there that he saw a girl who looked a lot like olga popova, he remembered her very well. and when he saw the program about wanted people, he immediately got in touch, just flew off, got to know me then. well, yes, 90%, that maybe it is her in lviv, she went to the church, and there is a peter and paul temple in lviv, she said so, that is, the service was still going on in the church, she arrived with some two packages, that is , she