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it affects the general opinion in the world in a very negative way for us, we have to ask er, well, it’s difficult , but it always speeds up the solution of the problem when you ask er, ruba question. international rights to this, how to stop the response by the power of the population, all this could be done, i assure you, it is possible, but if ukraine agrees to such intermediate decisions , that is, erdogan will be right that he wants to put zelensky and putin together to decide some intermediate questions, well, there is an official statement by president volodymyr zelenskyi that we and putin will not have a solution, it is already good, but at the same time, these are all cunning steps, two agreements somewhere there are not forces on the table, they are good from the point of view of diplomacy, but you understand war, diplomacy is different - it is the diplomats of war there can
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be no diplomacy of the same war diplomacy, uh, well, we are weaker, i can agree here, but still, the balance is a little different from the way it was at the beginning of the large-scale invasion, that is, we must, conditionally speaking, change the pyramid we don't need mediators now, we will need them when russia asks for peace terms, now we need our allies in the offensive to liberate ukrainian territory we have recently heard a lot of foreign statements about the offensive to liberate ukrainian territory, there are fewer of them and more about these mediations, what do they want the russians and putin, he is not going anywhere. he will stay, he is bargaining for a place in the group of 20 for us on the 15th there on the 16th in indonesia, at least online, at least through tv, at least through uh, such a connection he is bargaining for them to discuss in indonesia,
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please russia return to the agreement, that is what they are doing, that is, i think we are losing the initiative, we have to say well actually we have already said officially this is not our problem yes the right decision is the right decision but this is the way to proceed sorry for the problems of the world - these are important problems, but as the oil minister of india said yesterday in an interview with his son, when he was asked, you do not feel any moral problems that you give money to russia, which then goes to arms and kills ukrainians he says, what moral problems do i have to protect my citizens? we need to start protecting our citizens . the time has come. we need to ask our allies a question. we need a counteroffensive and liberation before the occupation of the territory. otherwise, we will fight for years. this scenario does not suit us. there should be no intermediate agreements . the de-occupation of the entire territory of ukraine, we need allies, partners
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in the supply of tanks, tactical missiles, and no mediation agreements, which unfortunately our resource of diplomacy, all our forces deployed there, and the president is involved, everyone is involved. this is good. and once again i say that i am not against doing this part, but do not forget about the main one, which we just talked about. thank you, mr. ambassador, for this honest analysis of the current international political situation. xvi-xix years, chairman of the board of the ukrainian crisis media center we are going further 14th hour 32 minutes now we involve in our marathon andriy klymenko, head of the monitoring group of the institute of strategic maritime studies to the editor-in-chief of the black sea new portal, glory to ukraine by andriyuslav well, just now mr. ambassador from ukraine and i were analyzing, so to speak, the legal and diplomatic aspect of the grain
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agreement situation. and there is also a military aspect, so putin suspended russian participation in the grain agreement . we will not be all business and formulas and we are now waiting for certain meanness from the russian side, it may be some kind of not hidden provocation against turkish ships, it is not known whether they will dare they will not dare to go for it, and on the other hand , we foresee powerful strikes on our port infrastructure, because the russians regularly fire at the civilian objects of ukraine, in particular , and the energy ones. so now they can strike at the ports . what do you want to hear from me? perhaps you will refute and you say no, the russians can’t have enough power, the russians have run out of high-precision
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russian missiles, i don’t know what kind of words the officer will not allow to hit the ports, etc. and so on. well, i don’t know. i would like you to analyze this one you know, i have laid out here over the last day, er, about 15-16 times, er, i gave comments on this matter, on those issues, well, it applies to you, er, but on those issues that are formulated by journalists, er, as er, domestic as well as foreign ones, i draw such a not very pleasant conclusion, we are mistaken for moscow's morals, so he told us, moscow told us what about education, that grain is the answer to the attack on sevastopol, and now they are promoting it and now they will demand that ukrainian ports be demilitarized so that there is no such thing
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of the military, yes, and we will discuss everything there, uh, tamerdogans, there are hotels, and all such other things. this is not in sevastopol anymore. moreover, i will tell you that it is not about the grain. come on, i always say that we are the first, we mean voiced this problem and formulated it so that since september 18, 19, it has increased 5 times, which means that the waiting time for inspections of the joint coordination center of the marble sea was two days ago, it became 9:11. and now it is there on the 20th and 21st, and so on. and what is this the dates of september 15-16, as you know, putin was in samarkand. where was he
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exactly the asian one, how is it going, even the cis asian countries, not to mention india and china, they told him what they said and were late, and comrade everyone told him that he would finish it faster there , so uh, so this is the war and uh, the premiers of india also, exactly what does putin do when he returned, he makes an appeal on 20-221, then a decree on mobilization, then the commander changes at the same time, that is, then uh, give uh after september 15, well, uh, from september 15 to 20-21 they made a decision about the new stage of the war that they should call for 300,000 and they have already done it and are
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continuing to do it so that they need to change their tactics, that it is necessary to completely crush ukraine and at the same time, i am sure the same dates. don't go to these meetings of the coordination center don't go to this inspection you can make up whatever you want i 'm sure they were told yes today you have diarrhea tomorrow you will have diarrhea and so on for sure and at that time there were only three groups the number of inspectors was increased to five only on 24.10, but yesterday, the day before yesterday, they increased it by another 10 immediately when russia was not there and they began to stretch this corps, which was seized by more than 200 if you count all four districts where they accumulate waiting lines.
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that is, it is the component of war is not prose. i say this again not about sevastopol and it is not about grain, that is, putin is changing the strategy and tactics of the war, he would like to fix his captured newly occupied territories at least the left bank from kherson to almost almost to zaporozhye there including the nuclear power plant, including donbass, to secure a land route to the occupied crimea and to transfer this war so that it goes on for years means that for this you need mobilization, for this you need mobilization, e. shelling of energy facilities is putin's new strategy, and
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at the same time it was said that they are still importing grain there, it's enough to tie it up, so i'll talk about what i mean to hear from this old man colleagues of mr. mr. supplied er. of course it is soon there will be uh g20 in indonesia uh, that means that putin wants with all his might to start talking with him at least about something, but they need those conversations not for grain and not for the global problems of hunger that he is worried about. and he needs them in order to to delay the time to train these 300,000 even more mobilized there, combat coordinated and so on to give them weapons this second to relocate them, we can see with you what happened when the mobilized appeared on the
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southern front, so our offensive stalled, this is a gunner attack and it is quite understandably so the number has increased, so i don’t know here it is necessary to coordinate all this and now all these processes and now erdogan is working yes he needs it on this he needs it his image as a global player let it work we need to support it er er more er m i don't even see any options here, it can be anything about the matter, it can cause that in the coming days he will hold talks with putin and zelensky and we will talk specifically about the grain agreement, which, as we see, is being carried out purely physically just now, as i understand it, as we speak in this
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ether, what can this conversation be about? well, everything is obvious here. he will tell him that i want to continue with putin, they will tell him. well, you want. well, we are friends, but then e tell zelensky to give guarantees that not using means not using these ports for an attack panas it is impossible to give such guarantees in normal conditions of war. moreover, they are for uh, for 60 days of action, uh, this grain initiative, because it is not even a contract, it is not an agreement, it is not an agreement, from the legal point of view, it means that they fired from 13 days waters of the black sea with missiles of different calibers regions of ukraine, including for 6 days, were shelled in odesa oblast, that is, the region from which grain traffic is carried out, that is, all of this. but of course, i think that one way or another putin
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will say that we are in favor of a cease-fire, if you want grain, demand from zelensky grain a truce so that the world does not die of hunger , its poorest countries, something will happen, zelensky's answer, i have no doubt what will happen, he won't even talk about this topic, yes, it's absolutely it's clear. so what will continue, let's see. i think that everything will depend on me. if erdogan says, i will continue alone . putin will not be able to dare to do something in the black sea. why, because there are already four to four hundred ships involved in this whole process, yes? almost 40% of the ships there
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belong to turkish campaigns as ship owners , most of them fly there under the flags of other countries . although there is also the flag of the region, but there er, it means by the sign of ownership, almost 40% of it belongs to er turkish companies. and what are the technical capabilities of there is an enemy, if you want to spoil it, so to speak. under a foreign flag, we are not talking about a direct frontal attack. and maybe they can use one or the other, i don’t know. are those other underwater vehicles? i really want 500 kg of explosives, as putin said, or are they for this annual situation rather, he will not dare, taking into account the close models of cooperation with the president of turkey, on the contrary , russia has always had a very good special forces, and
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we know that the naval special forces has been there since the days of the soviet union, with its base in sevastopol so, this is the traditional summer troops, the marine special forces can do anything and under any flag, they can lay mines, they can put a mine, attach a submariner, a magnetic mine is inadmissible, conditionally saying yes, and then say that these are ukrainians here mines were laid er, that is, it could be anything, it could be the capture of the ship by some unknown er, it means terrorist persons who speak ukrainian, for some reason, sometimes like that or with tattoos, as i like this radio, that is, there could be any provocations except open
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the use of hmm warships, for example , that is, it can be anything, they can demand an inspection, they can demand the right to check separately, and whether they are transporting weapons to ukraine. one and a half dozen options, but that's all, all bows, as they say. thank you, mr. andriy, for this extremely honest and important analysis . on the air of the espresso tv channel, they talked about the underwater mines, so to speak, of the grain agreement with which russia temporarily withdrew andriy klymenko, head of the monitoring group of the institute of strategic black sea studies, the editor-in-chief of the black se news portal, in touch with us, vasyl bodnar , the ambassador of ukraine in turkey, mr. vasyl, we congratulate you, glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, what
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is turkey calling on russia to unblock the grain corridor, although, in fact, there is no there is no physical blocking and ships will continue to leave the ports and go through this green corridor, moreover, the representative of the russian federation at the un said that moscow will not recognize agreements on the export of grain from ukraine without his participation, but he promises to inspect the ships anyway, and here i would like to actually outline what powers russia has in general to keep its inspectors, to force them to comply with the work if they withdraw from the agreement. well, will they work? erdoğan's appeals to putin to return to this grain agreement, look, let's break it down from a legal point of view, first of all, there are two parts of the monster, that is, the document that was signed between us and turkey, the un and russia and
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turkey, that is, there are two mediators with which the agreement was signed, our part of the agreement is actually mine , and now on the contrary, taking into account the actual blockade by russia of the work of this central coordination center, as well as the fact that they announced the suspension of their participation, a solomonic decision has now been made that the inspection is carried out exclusively by the un and turkey a very smart decision that gives the possibility that it is possible to quickly inspect the ships that are already waiting in the vicinity of istanbul in the black and marmara seas and actually unblock the passage or if it the continuation of this very grain corridor from the other side. you saw that it was 12 hours yesterday today. today, the russian side does not have any separate powers other than those provided for in the agreement, that is, participation in the joint coordination center and participation in the inspections of ships in the istanbul area, more than others
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there are no possibilities. if there are attempts to interrupt, as mr. klymenko said, or to create obstacles for the passage of this route, it seems to me that the best thing to do was to simply change the route, but without participation on the russian side, there will be many questions regarding general security in the region, because everyone understands that russia can create many problems , moreover, the issue of insurance, the insurance of ships was quite high until july 22, and few people dared to enter even somewhere in the danube delta or to approach our shores since they considered it dangerous already now, those who insure there, one of the london companies began to raise the futures prices for the insurance of these ships, which may have a negative impact on the number of events ships to the black sea and in general to ukrainian ports and do not allow them to pass er, well, to export grain, this is the main thing. therefore, of course, the turkish diplomacy is working now , the defense ministers have already held talks, and
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the foreign ministers talked the other day. to be erdoğan's conversation with putin in order to bring them back to the implementation of these agreements that they reached with turkey and the un, it should be taken into account that on november 19 this agreement expires and not exclusively that the russians are trying in this way increase the rates and you, as if by blackmail, beat out for yourself some uh most preferences, they also want to fully implement this memorandum that they signed uh with the un also on july 22, we do n't talk much about this document, but it was signed in parallel with the agreement on the grain corridor, which provided assistance to russia in the export of grain and fertilizers internationally, of course, western countries confirmed that grain and fertilizers are not under sanctions, but none of the western shipping and insurance companies want to give the green light
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russia, because i believe that it is rightly considered an aggressor country and they do not allow, er, or rather, i do not want to export russian grain and create additional preferences for the aggressor country or enrich its budget, so here, if it is a complex problem, it cannot be looked at the line is the ambassadors, are there any possible consultations with the turkish side, if so, taking into account the possible intentions of the russian federation to obstruct the grain agreement and the passage of ships with grain, yes, in their unconventional way, for example, under someone else’s name, yes the so-called flag, that is, without taking responsibility, i understand that this is possibly a certain diplomatic secret. but it is possible that we would still outline some certain framework intentions of turkey, how serious they are
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. speaking of mediation , of course, we have a negotiation process going on at the level of the ministry of defense, and yesterday there was a conversation between the minister of defense of turkey and our minister of transport, that is, they are in constant consultation based on the only thing that cannot be done. and i would immediately like to dispel any speculations about the fact that there was already some press information about the fact that turkish ships will protect these convoys or create some security zones, unfortunately, no agreement has been reached provides for the escorting of these civilian ships by warships, this is the second time. it is unlikely that anyone except us will be able or agree to fight with the russian fleet or with any problems that will approach these civilian vessels grain here is needed if if for some mission, you need either a decision of the un, that is , of the security council, ladies and gentlemen, or there should be, for example
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, a special nato operation, that is, it also envisaged, for example, the closing of this territory of the sea for the entry of russian ships. will find itself in a direct confrontation with russia, a rich nato country, they do not want this, even if we see supplies and hear supplies of arms to ukraine, so we are fine with the current grain agreement with which russia has temporarily suspended its our membership operates under the mandate of the united nations, perhaps it would be possible to somewhat strengthen this mandate in the way you spoke about. do you see any prospects for such a movement ? there must be an agreement of the four parties to make appropriate changes to the text of the agreement for us, for example, it would be extremely important to expand the range of products that could be exported from ukraine and imported to
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of ukraine, because today, well, i'm sorry, empty ships are passing by, and this also constitutes a certain, well, if the ship is constantly going, it could bring to ukraine some necessary cargo from the other side, of course, let's talk here, it plays its role, but in this case, as an organization that performs humanitarian functions and is supported by turkey, because we remember that the negotiations that began in april dragged on, the experience was that without the connection of turkey , they were not so effective and did not end from the writing of the document itself, therefore, a complex effort is needed here, it is also important to involve other non-influential players in the world, because the pressure, if it were a more global pressure on russia, it can only lead to results; they, on the contrary, may be the milestone of our conversation. plant in ukraine, the turkish company baikar makita plans to
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complete this construction in two years and according to the executive director of the haluka-baraktar company, he plans to equip his attack drones with air-class missiles for combat with drones in the context of the active use by the russian federation of unmanned aerial vehicles of iranian production, and in fact their effectiveness is quite high on the territory of our ukrainian rear, it looks quite spicy, we will talk like this, actually, as of now, in what section can we now consider the relations between turkey and russia in general federation , are there any questions at all about the support of turkish business, e. in the first days, he supports ukraine and not only the characters, but humanitarian aid with training of the military, e.e., bonfires, many developments
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, maintenance, repairs and much more. when i write after the war, in fact, the second one - you are a little bit two questions, as if to raise the first question concerns the modernization of the drones themselves, which are produced by the baikar company machina, part of them on ukrainian engines, this applies primarily to kb-2 as mg and b2. we have them in service if it is possible to integrate air-to-air missiles of course, they can be used for anti-aircraft purposes, but first of all , the first idea voiced by the ceo of the company is to create protection for the drone itself, because we are already on the threshold of when drones will fight with drones or are already fighting. we saw it on quadcopters. we saw it. it is there in other guises, but right now the question is whether to arm drones with methods of protection against other drones or more flying other regional operations because we we know cases when russia used fighter jets
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in order to try to steal our money, this is one story, it is not related to iranian drones , it is generally related to aerial vehicles that pose a threat to drones, the second story is the fact that the factory has already developed documentation and acquired land a ukrainian company was created, there is a partnership and partner organizations in ukraine that help with the design and soon , again, the construction of the premises itself begins in secret. and then, the transportation of equipment and the launch of the production of the unmanned aerial vehicles themselves, what is the importance of ukraine today, of the three main unmanned aerial vehicles that we know of, two are planned to be equipped with ukrainian engines , one is already flying as an engine with the engines of the zaporizhzhia engine, sichevskih and ai 450 the other is an unmanned fighter, this is a new generation, the so -called dogwood, elma, a red apple, and
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it must have an engine on it, and a 322 also of zaporizhzhia production. that is, it is not just a wish to make it in our country because it is convenient. and this is speaks about the cooperation of enterprises and the possibility of using our production base, our spare parts, our e-e, our intellectual property in order to strengthen our defense capability, because most likely the armed forces of ukraine will be the first here to order these free detailed devices, mr. ambassador, we are extremely grateful to you because we understand what your efforts were worth, but we also understand that there is another unpleasant aspect of this whole story, in particular, it is about the fact that the russian federation will try to destroy this object well, accordingly, it is possible that there are some prospects that the turkish side could provide us with these or other anti-air defense systems there, i don't know by barter for money or maybe within the framework of cooperation in the euro-atlantic
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alliance, look at the prospects, there are a lot of uh, there are products about we are already talking, but in reality turkey itself lacks air defense and you probably remember the story of something there 3-4 years ago when turkey bought the s-400 from russia and for that a website was imposed on it. that is, it is also how they say not from a good life, now in turkey , the defense industry is developing quite seriously, and one of the elements is the development of defense systems, land, air, some of them are being tested, some are already in service. of course, this is one of the topics as they say, it is in our discussion or in our discussion between ukraine and turkey, and we will definitely tell you when we can say thank you . we will wait. thank you again for being on our air. we see concrete examples of how successful it is
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diplomacy vasyl bodnar, ambassador extraordinary and plenipotentiary of ukraine to turkey well, khrystyna yatskiv and i are now preparing to deliver the news to our colleagues. thank you colleagues for a moment, i will really tell you about the most important events in ukraine. now the most important thing is that belarus has sent russia 7 batches of reconserved equipment, the monitoring group of the belarusian district reported, in particular, the invaders are receiving 20 bmp-2s, which went in the direction of the temporarily occupied luhansk in total october to belarus
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