no matter how hard putin and his henchmen try to blackmail the world, the world, the world, the world is always stronger, firstly, secondly, it will find and will find an opportunity to protect ukrainian grain supplies well, it is clear that this is our ukrainian position, we are together with the entire anti-putin coalition as in the energy blackmail was resisted in the grain blackmail, we will expose the terrorist country in all other blackmails as well, one more topic, mr. valentina. during the last few days, it is even a few weeks, it is the energy security of ukraine and new topic energy rammstein the president of ukraine met with the european commissioner for energy personnel simpson they discussed the initiative to create just such an energy rammstein something similar to the defense rammstein let's hear mr. zelenskyy at one time she

helped us a lot in the process of joining ukraine to the pan-european energy grid this is that which significantly strengthened ukraine and now we heard the necessary signals of support from the european commissioner, we discussed the initiative to create such a format that the military rammstein will be able to work for the sake of our common security, but it is concentrated on the venereal plane. something like an energy rammstein, funds, equipment, support for transformers , generators of energy carriers - this is what is vitally necessary for our defense. when zelensky spoke , he meant precisely the european commissioner for energy, party cadre simson. i will ask mr. valentin, as a specialist in the field of national security and defense, have you twice been

the head of the security service of ukraine or were you considered then the options are that someone can strike, maybe not russia, maybe some other party - it was 15 years ago or a little more, and even later 10 years ago , was the question of destroying or damaging the energy structure of ukraine considered at all ? how was it spelled out, how was it all recorded in internal documents in ukraine, how is it possible to get out of this situation when part of the power units or part of the power plants are put out of order, i will tell you that no country in the world is not is ready for such and such terrorist missile attacks on critical infrastructure, including energy. at the same time, we clearly understand what is happening now, especially with the e-e after the start of the war on february 24 of this year, what is

russia doing, it is hitting energy facilities and the infrastructure of ukraine using, in fact, since soviet times, e-e, maps, plans and those objects that were built. dnipro-s-2, next to the transformer distributors , the russians in particular aimed there with a missile, that is, i and the specialist will tell you that they use exactly all the other buildings and infrastructure, what are their plans and maps that were built against the soviet era, more than that so-and-so energy terrorism, in principle, the first e-e from ukraine according to and took the first blow, now ukraine is already clear that great britain and poland and all other countries have

understood that something must be done about this and protect both power plants and e-e distribution nodes and e-e trans-transport generation in order to protect against possible missile strikes, but there is only one anti-aircraft and anti-missile defense, and this is what european partners are currently working with, and what they began to seriously allocate their budgets for. and this is what, by the way, what ukraine needs in the first place and now with our american and european partners we continue to work so that more modern and major more powerful air defense systems appear and are supplied to ukraine to protect the cover of energy infrastructure, but how um, i admit that there were no such protection plans and not and not only in us in any country of the european union, and in the future, we should not just have such protection plans, but build protective structures around each

key a-a energy object, moreover, now this energy rammstein was really our idea, and in the parliament we met with the european commissioner, it is good that the president also supported this idea, and we need the eu ukraine energy headquarters to work to solve all the urgent needs of ukraine, and this is energy the joint headquarters of 27 eu countries + ukraine is already working, i can tell you that more than 12 eu member states have already spoken and will provide possible assistance in the form of cables, equipment in the form of transformers and, if necessary, requests from the ukrainian side for the supply of electricity from the european market to the ukrainian market, that is, in our power grid, in essence, this is such a serious energy cooperation, and we must do everything possible so that by the beginning of winter,

ukraine already has the capacity and is able to use it for our citizens and residents ukraine, mr. valentin, the russian federation is using insane amounts of money to destroy the critical infrastructure of ukraine, of course, the reconstruction of this critical infrastructure will also require a lot of money. volodymyr zelenskyi informed the president of ukraine about the cost of mass strikes against ukraine by russian terrorists, so on monday the cost of missiles and drones that flew ukrainian cities cost russia in what value more than 2 million 300 000 average russian pensions by age, we will hear from zelenskyi they do not take into account energy expenditures. if you look at the price of only yesterday's russian attack, the use of missiles and drones cost russia the equivalent of more than 2 million three hundred thousand

average russian old-age pensions . poverty for their country, the russian leadership spends everything to avoid admitting what historical mistake they made with this war against ukraine on the battlefield, they are hopeless ukrainians the soldiers have already proven it, but it takes time, effort is needed, patience is needed to prove that even the hope for winter for russian terrorists will not come true. so, these are the numbers that zelenskyi named and which he uses for the bombing of ukraine, the russian federation, mr. valentin, i will ask a question which i bet, probably throughout the whole of this great war, where is that point, where is the point of no

return for the russian federation when they simply won’t have money anymore, at the expense of which they don’t make missiles, build drones, is there a limit do they have the principle that if we haven't lived long , we won't start? well, for 80s or up to 90% of russians, the point of no return is the bankruptcy of gazprom and the embargo on russian energy, so that they can't to sell to the world market moreover, we have already briefly talked about gas on all media numbers, as well as oil and coal, this is the point of no return and this is the point of the end of the russian economy and this is the point of impossibility to further finance anya’s war against ukraine and not to pay er, even money with their military or

mobilized or reservists, what difference does it really make them either? this is what putin is leading russia to, and in fact it is not such a distant prospect. i already gave you specific statistics and specific losses of russia about gas. they lost 30% of the gas market in europe. but that’s the same. they didn't lose it for a day, they lost it forever, for tens of years. they tried to get it and had 36% of the crust before the start of the war. so now go 30% of us have always lost more than that, the same with coal and if the world is efficient, the same with oil this will actually be the end of the war and the regime that currently exists in russia, this is why it is so important that ukraine and all of us with our partners seek effective international sanctions for aggression against ukraine and effective self-imposed sanctions in the energy sector, this is the most painful because

precisely from it, from energy money, russia firstly financed the production of rockets, pumps, aircraft, artillery, and so on, which it used and uses against us in this war, once and twice, it was precisely from this energy money that the huge russian army was financed precisely from this money, so all the forces are self-financed, many hundreds of thousands of security forces on the territory of the russian federation itself, in fact, this is, you know, the skeleton of the energy international money on which putin built the regime that is now in russia and the regime that is fighting against ukraine, the absence of this skeleton, the absence such financial income means the end, mr. valentin. you have already said that ukraine will need to review the concept of security and approach it in a new way. president zelenskyi also says that it is necessary to create a new security system on the borders

, on the streets, in defense, there must be separate security relations between the states. he said about this in an interview with czech television, a small segment with mr. zelensky, let's see. after this war, everyone already understands . to security i believe that security will be the number one priority security we will break russia on our land but this does not mean that she will not return in 10-20 years we do not know i want to believe that they will change their attitude towards to the world and to our society without disrespecting it and still letting go and letting democracy in, i would still like to believe, but we will see in any case, we know that we must provide for ourselves and

this is security at the borders on the streets, the defensive part of security, and here we are ready work we talked a lot today and the governments talked about it, but we spoke separately, i was in favor of building separate i don't want to talk in detail defense relations between our states, mr. valentine, after the second world war, the league of nations ceased to exist and on on this basis, the organization of the united nations arose, the founder of this organization was the soviet union, belarus and ukraine, well, at least three separate entities that became the founders of the un, according to you, after the russian russian-ukrainian war, after our victory, which should appear on the foundation to the un, i will say that it is in our interests, in

our interests, not to even wait for victory and the end of the war, but to establish a military-political union of ukraine, poland, great britain, lithuania and other countries that are essentially an anti-putin coalition. moreover, i would also formally formalize it politically. i recognized that it was founded in one of the neighboring countries as the headquarters in rammstein is already working because the defense is working . languages ​​and rights ukraine, as the initiator, we act, moreover, we are interested in having such a union already established, i repeat defensively and economically further, i agree , moreover, i support that er, even during this war and

especially after its completion, we will very much need to review the entire energy security of the country first, no more openings for, especially for russia, regarding our energy regarding the location of critical infrastructure facilities, it should not just be secretive, but also secretive and secured in technical terms and in the cyber plan and in all other dimensions that will really secure the civil infrastructure, we cannot afford to live more in the old soviet way, when please, everyone knows where everything is with us russians came here and left as they wanted . she worked, especially during the reign of yanukovych . all his vice prime ministers did not come here. by the way, i remember that i was in opposition to yanukovych at that time, like rogozin, who was then, it seems, the vice prime minister of the russian government, but i went with an inspection to all the defense plants of ukraine, who do you think they are under

since 2004, the 12th year of the 11th, they were already preparing for war against us and sent them and passed the inspection. even our defense plants, therefore, our defense industry must also be secured and classified and produce here i came to the second important element of our future security and defense. ukraine must return the full production of all means of destruction, especially missile means of destruction of aviation, missiles and bombs of the aggressor, no matter who the aggressor is and no matter what he is called and from which side we are threatened by such weapons of deterrence should not just be produced, but should be produced and put in place and make it the basis of the defense of the modern ukrainian army, and the third - and the armed forces of ukraine themselves - this is what we are proud of, and indeed it is already hardened and serious military power, and this, by the way, is a guarantee of the

armed forces of ukraine that ukraine will become a member of nato in the near future, i have no doubt about that. well, in the meantime, russia and belarus were working on different scenarios for the deployment and use of a regional grouping of troops, the first deputy chief of the general staff of the armed forces of the republic of belarus reported igor is the king, and they say that they are ready for any situations, for any attacks. well, for some reason, they think that someone will attack them and not strike at them. the response to their attacks on the territory of the ukrainian state, at the same time, representatives of the belarusian authorities are talking about the fact that some kind of riots, street riots, are being prepared on the territory of the republic, well , obviously, such riots may not happen - in that case, if the self-proclaimed president lukashenko goes to a hidden war against ukraine and the armed forces of the

republic of belarus will join the russians and strike in the north of ukraine, that's why they are afraid of these street riots and riots, they said there in the sizo prisons that people can come out and actually become an internal front for the self-proclaimed president of the belarusians, as far as this scenario is possible, it means the involvement of lukashenka's troops in the war with ukraine, because he is not so complicit in this war. but in the event that these troops go to ukraine, how likely is it that those people who were on the streets in 2020 protesting against the self-proclaimed president lukashenko, how far can they open the internal front in belarus , in fact, mr. serhiu, the situation in belarus for lukashenko is even worse than what is breaking through in our

media, in fact, the situation in russia itself, especially in remote regions, is even worse than we can imagine, and the first riots are from ulyanovsk, show your tv viewers that they have already started in other regions where people are already rioting and demanding money even from the russian authorities, and this is today here and there this is happening in russia and this is only the beginning. i have already said that the economic crisis and economic decline are inevitable due to the loss of external energy markets for russia, but in addition to the loss of energy markets, there are huge losses internally of the russian federation itself, the loss of jobs, the mobilization is not for nothing, they took hundreds of thousands of people as reservists from somewhere, from jobs that somehow provided at least water, which is an issue at the regional level, especially of the russian

economy, now these people are gone, and there are also problems and riots will happen again already you and i started talking about belarus repeatedly from the first day of this war, from february 25th, it seems, the first time we worked with you on the air, i substantiated the attempt, substantiated the denial that belarus e will invade that they have some kind of military power there that threatens us in ukraine strongly and you and i have turned out to be absolutely right people against ukraine, the worst thing for us is that on the territory of belarus, lukashenko's regime was provided and continues to be provided, and who has the infrastructure of railways, military military bases for the russian aggressor who attacked and is attacking us from the territory of belarus, especially the rocket we planes, this is really what is called complicity in the game of aggression against us, lukashenka and his

armed forces. it is true, but now. what putin and lukashenko saw was that the armed forces of nato member countries significantly increased the number of groups along their borders. well, they scared the whole the world, the whole world sees what they are punishing and doing. what are the war crimes on the territory of ukraine and all countries, starting with poland, nato member countries have appealed and increased, and increased the military presence of nato troops several times, this is the second time - all the whole wartime blackmail, especially of putin and russia. well, it led to the fact that additional anti-missile, anti-aircraft and wind defense forces are deployed from london to romania, and this is no joke. this is modern aviation, which, among other things, has transferred its key allies to its allies, the united states of america, i mean in more than

one squadron of the most modern f-35 appeared in london, there is one f-35 - that's half of the russian aviation will never take off, and there are several squadrons and so on the entire front western nato understands and, moreover, seriously refers to the strengthening of defense well, i am not talking about the fact that even the fence on the borders of belarus has already been built by poland on the borders with russia, what is left there and lithuania is also being completed will be built in the near future, that is, russia and belarus , especially their leadership, do not believe that they they talk for pr, how strong they are there, how they are never afraid, they are shaking now like never before in their lives, they realized that their bluff and their aggression led to the fact that all countries stopped doubting all countries, all especially the member countries nato has risen and is ready, firstly, to defend itself , and secondly, to restrain aggression. dmitry medvedev , the deputy head of the security council of the russian federation, says

that various yellow-blue saboteurs have begun to operate on the territory of russia. foreign students who have recently come of age disabled several railway facilities. on the air, they say, because they do not agree with the politics of our country. that is, we accepted these monsters and gave them the opportunity to get an education in response to terrorist attacks and sabotage. in the same line, what our allow me to say citizens setting fire to military headquarters and destroying other state facilities. i'm not talking about the murders of our citizens by ukrainian terrorists on our territory. in russia, the moratorium on executions is very humane, in contrast to all the largest countries with nuclear weapons, the united states, the people's republic of china and india, although i emphasize once again and within the framework of the current constitution, the moratorium on the death penalty can be overcome, you see, mr. valentina, it’s already been two,

dmitry medvedev, who sometimes comes to his senses after drinking alcohol, apparently, still starts understand and fear the ukrainian, as he said, the yellow-blue saboteurs, because two days ago, the main intelligence directorate of the ministry of defense reported that two k-52 helicopters were destroyed on the territory of the russian federation, and it is clear that the foreign students they are referring to the bears obviously also understand what the russian federation is doing on the territory of ukraine and understands that the russian federation needs to be stopped. who and how do you think it is possible to stop the russian federation not only on the territory of ukraine, but also on the territory of the russian federation i confirm that the russian federation itself, even before the war and now, especially during the war, has never been a stable country, there

have always been, and now especially , internal, including anti-government, protests and actions, and in connection with this forced mobilization, anti-mobilization protests and the actions of medvedev and i, a professional, deciphers all his words that you have just cited from a completely different side. this is the first and most important thing. the russian leadership is frightened by the number of cases of arson and burning of military commandos on the territory of russia. already more than two dozen, maybe even more than three, there is already information being hidden, how many people have been killed by mumps, what has already been done to the citizens of the russian federation on the territory of the russian federation, we are also moving forward, it is mobilization . in russia, where are already riots and protests, moreover, even those who are

mobilized, not yet mobilized, but already mobilized, who, as you know, have placed cattle somewhere in the russian federation near military units or just uh, in modest clothes, even they are these people who are with putin and on his orders, who mobilized him , who are sick with them, so more than 30% have already fallen ill . how many of them refuse to fight, and more than 50% are essentially cracks and collapse even in the sphere on which putin relied so much and which, that is, the military has already reached him critical limit and this is not all the destruction of two helicopters. and i tell you that two were destroyed there, the third was damaged and only the fourth remained more or less untouched. these are already satellite images and published by western intelligence. and who destroyed these two helicopters for a second? this this military base or helipad

is located somewhere under the glass, and these processes are taking place in russia itself, and they happened before, i repeat , but they were like this, you know, maybe smaller and hidden, now it’s all coming out and hitting already all over the russian federation itself so in all militaristic plans, and i repeat, this is actually only the beginning. can we, mr. valentin , in what way join and help those who are fighting against putin's regime and, let's say, help professionally so that the russian federation from the inside fell apart to all of us, and i start with myself , everything we can do now for the armed forces of ukraine, take and do this is our slogan today, tomorrow and all these days until victory and after victory, by the way , this is also what i am sure of for every ukrainian in you to concentrate on supporting the armed forces of ukraine should find

an opportunity to be strong and hold on to their native land and liberate their native land. russia, don't worry so much about them from the inside, it started to fall apart on its own, and what's more, this process can't be stopped. i will tell you that this is a matter of months for lukashenka himself. let him endure at least so that he is not demolished by the belarusians themselves, and especially for what he is currently doing during the war against ukraine. moreover, once again, returning to belarus, lukashenko has already played with the military equipment and munitions on which he well, all his friends hoped to rely on, russia takes it out of its territory, takes it out of belarus to the front, to the front against ukraine, because the russian federation itself does not have the necessary munitions equipment. are trying to fight further against our armed forces of ukraine, then our conclusion from everything is all one and

firm, we support our armed forces of ukraine here on our native land, mr. valentin, at the end of our program, i will ask you about the message from the white house, er, where it is said that there is still a danger of attacks from on the part of iran and the forces controlled by it in relation to saudi arabia, to what extent is it possible for us and how likely is it that iran will go to war against saudi arabia, and there is already... may develop into a wider war already on the planet, i will tell you my own forecast, knowing the united states of america well and having worked there for more than one year, i think that they will pass the first stage of their internal elections before the elections on november 8, that is, in 6 days and after that there will be serious preventive measures and not only measures , but also the efforts of the united states of america and

saudi arabia, which is an ally of the united states, so that iran not only does not plan any military aggression or strikes against all-ukrainian arabia, but also pays a significant the price for its current support of russia as an aggressor in the interests of ukraine, and we are working with our international partners so that there is never a possible supply from iran of any ballistic missiles or other dangerous weapons for the russian federation against ukraine, these are two directions and i am sure that and saudi arabia and the united states and other countries will find such levers of deterrence and deter iran in such plans or in such criminal efforts. thank you, mr. valentin, for the conversation . friends of the security services of ukraine, we work on the air

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