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, the enemy has launched 47 missile strikes and 90 attacks from rocket salvo systems over the past day . in luhansk region and donetsk region, the occupying army continues to lose in ukraine manpower and equipment. as of the morning of november 2, russia lost 73,720 people in ukraine only for in the last day, the armed forces of ukraine destroyed 800 orks. at the beginning of the great war, the russians have already lost in ukraine 2,714 tanks, 5,525 armored combat vehicles , 1,733 artillery systems, 387 rocket fire systems, 198 air defense systems, 277 aircraft, 258 helicopters, 4,153 units of automotive equipment, 16 ships, boats, 3978

cruise missiles, 1,433 drones, 154 units of special equipment, the enemy suffered the greatest losses in the avdiiv and bakhmut directions, erdogan told putin to take his place and the wounds are preparing for war in saudi arabia and belarus is waiting for disturbances in the republic, we will talk about this in the next hour, our guest is a politician, a people's deputy of ukraine, twice head of the security service of ukraine valentin nalyvaichenko p valentina good day good health to you and thank you for joining our conversation congratulations glory to ukraine heroes glory so, mr. valentin, let's start with the top topics of the world's top topics, because the topic of the grain corridor, which since october 29, russia tried to close and say that it exiting the so-called grain agreement, this story has finally been put to an end the ministry of defense

of russia announced that moscow is resuming its participation in the grain agreement, which was suspended on october 31, russia is returning to the grain agreement, this was announced by the president of turkey, erdogan, this decision was made after telephone conversations between the presidents of the russian federation and turkey, after yesterday's conversation with russian president vladimir putin, russian defense minister shoigu called our minister of national defense holusia akarov and stated that the transportation of grain will continue as agreed today from 12 o'clock in the afternoon, mr. valentin, is it correct? i understand that erdogan still showed putin his place in the black sea basin, because despite russia's three-day or two-day withdrawal from the grain agreement, the ships these caravans went in spite of everything, but under the

cover of the turkish fleet, they are really, really, the irdagans. turkey must be understood, they are members of nato and have a good navy. but together with them, there is also a very good navy, e.g. 30 nato member countries, and this very military naval power is just a very good guarantee, a very good achievement for us, for ukraine, in order to continue to export and sell our grain, and even last year's grain is insulting. i'm not talking about this year's plus, it's very important to understand that the russian federation not only lost on the front with us against our armed forces of ukraine, not only lost the energy blackmail. do you remember how putin personally received and

lavrov visited him with this whole promise to all african countries that they will provide them and grain, we will be fine, just support them in some way in the war against ukraine, well, first of all, no one supported them in russia is at war against us, and secondly, russia itself, having lied and given some promises and guarantees, did not fulfill them, and moreover, with such pathetic statements about the exit of the grain agreement, they lasted as long as two days in two days, and putin convened some emergency council there without his russian i that his really i called the turkish minister of defense and they confirmed that to disperse is turning into a grain agreement, and it is also very important to understand that there are actually two agreements regarding the grain corridor, the most important of which is our ukraine, the united nations , the united nations, and turkey with its ships and nato military - by naval

forces and there is a second part, this is where russia is, the un and that yes. that is, he must understand this clearly, and one more unpleasant moment for us. and this must be said all over the world. i think, first of all, our representative office of the united nations e-e in new york, russia actually tries and continues to use this grain corridor to sell grain stolen from ukraine, especially in berdyansk and the temporarily occupied areas of the zaporizhzhia region, from those elevators from those warehouses with our ukrainian farmers by the russian occupiers who they are temporarily located there or requisitioned or stolen or grain was taken for pennies and now russia is trying to trade this grain with you know who syria with another country e-e rogue party e in i think that despite the existence of the grain agreement, sergey, it is necessary to

make it impossible to sell stolen grain from ukraine to russia, by the way, it is obvious that vladimir putin, who spoke today about the grain corridor, did not spoke about this stolen grain because he said that we, moscow, are ready to supply the poorest countries free of charge with the entire amount of grain that was intended for them within the framework of the grain agreement, well, that is, at first i was frankly surprised by such statements by putin, and then i understood that this is obviously the very grain that they stole in the south of ukraine and are now trying to put it on the world market. what else did putin say about this grain agreement and the negotiations with the turkish side? on as it was initially announced

to help the poor of the strange world and export grain in this connection from the territory of ukraine, everyone knows that, unfortunately, ukraine used this humanitarian corridor for requests strikes on the black sea fleet, we needed a confirmation from the ukrainian side that nothing like this would happen in the future, that the humanitarian corridor would not be used for military purposes by the consequences of this situation. our turkish partners spoke in this regard. well, given the instructions of the ministry of defense , our full participation in this work will be resumed together. russia reserves the right to withdraw from this agreement if these guarantees are from the side ukraine will be disrupted, actually, valentine, it's not even funny when they enter and

leave for two or three days. but in this situation, putin said that ukraine must guarantee that there will be no more attacks, that is, they occupied and annexed crimea ships leave from there, shelling the critical infrastructure of ukraine, striking civilian objects. at the same time, they accuse ukraine of retaliating, and this should obviously be understood by everyone, including representatives of the un general assembly since this issue was considered separately at the general assembly, does the world understand what putin is doing now in crimea and does it understand this story with this grain corridor because, well, in fact, russia entered the territorial waters of ukraine and forbids civilian ships to leave ukrainian ports , so the world understands and i do i just work in the parliament every day. right now, the committee on the issue of

ukraine's operation to the european union and we have daily negotiations and communication and work with our european partners great britain and by the united states of america, these largest countries of the world not only understand but support ukraine's efforts to ensure the existence of a grain corridor , ukraine, the united nations, turkey, moreover, in the event of terrorist attacks by the russian federation against such civilian vessels, the readiness of the world community, first of all, nato member states, to provide and provide military - marine e-e support for possible further such deliveries of grain to the world market so that world food prices in the world do not increase and do not fall the poorest countries are african countries, the countries of the middle east, and so on. and so on. in fact, i can say that ukraine is supported in this by

the majority, the absolute majority of the member countries of the united nations. the grain stolen from ukraine is also ukrainian, and even these countries, even those seaports that may have temporarily received or transshipped grain stolen from ukraine, must in the future clearly understand that losses must be compensated in ukraine and expenses for such grain for such grain that the occupier stole during the temporary occupation, especially in the south of our country, but, valentin, in this story, the grain corridor has two sides, it is ukraine and the world, the world market, so that is, they mean the occupiers strike and they do not allow us to sell the grain that we have grown, and on the other hand, they use this grain to blackmail the whole world

, that is, putin is doing this in order to lead to famine in asian countries, some in african countries, and in general, to disrupt the entire balance the movement of grain from the continent to the continent is on this scale, the global scale of terror, the terror that putin is trying to use now, and obviously ertogam, who said that despite russia ’s two-day withdrawal from the grain agreement, we will still do it . what other levers can the world have for in order to put in putin's place a person who is trying to blackmail the whole world with hunger. i am convinced that in the matter of the grain corridor, ukraine, the united nations, turkey, the member states of nato and the united nations are ready in the future to provide, including

military escort in order to ensure grain supplies from ukraine to the world market for the second time - i believe that you are really right when you say that russia as a terrorist country behaves and in matters of the grain grain corridor that russia as a terrorist country is now trying to leave entering the entire agreement with the un and turkey to blackmail the whole world, but i predict clearly that they will end up with such blackmail of russia, just like with the energy blackmail, remember in march-april and all summer, russia blackmailed the whole the european union of 27 countries and not only energy shanta you will freeze that we will now cut off your gas and so on, so that you do not survive on russian gas, it ended with the fact that at the beginning of the heating season, almost all countries of the european union bought 100% of the

gas they needed, only not in russia, they filled their gas storages, but already in russia, russia lost gas. putin lost more than 30% of russian gas supplies in the european market. and it’s not just billions, it’s many billions of russian former money that they once earned, what are they for tens of years, they tried to get this market , now they have lost it, the european union does not pay and will not pay huge sums of money for russian gas, from december 1 this year, there will be an embargo on oil, an embargo on russian coal is already in effect, in essence, russia is an energy company within this year alone has lost and will continue to lose a third of all its foreign revenues . in fact, i am telling you that europe's energy blackmail has ended in an abyss for the russian economy,

especially as regards hydrocarbons and exports to the european and not only the european market. it would be the same with grain blackmail if putin and his publicists did not try to blackmail the world . the ukrainian position, we are together with the entire anti-putov coalition, as we resisted the energy blackmail in the grain blackmail, we will expose the terrorist country in all other blackmails as well. even for a few weeks, this is the energy security of ukraine and a new topic, the energy rammstein of ukraine met with the european commissioner for energy affairs simpson, they discussed the initiative to create just such an energy rammstein, something similar to the defense rammstein, let's

hear mr. zelensky, at one time, she helped us a lot in the accession process of ukraine to the pan-european energy grid, this is what significantly strengthened ukraine and now we heard from the european commissioner the necessary signals of support and discussed the initiative to create such a format that as a military rammstein will be able to work for the sake of our common security, but it is concentrated on the venereal plane. something like an energy rammstein is worth the equipment, support for transformers , generators of energy carriers - this is what is vitally necessary for our defense. when zelensky spoke , he meant precisely the european commissioner

from energy party leader simson, i would like to ask you, mr. valentine, how a specialist in the field of national security and defense had twice heads of the security service of ukraine, were options such as those that could er that someone could strike maybe not russia maybe considered? well, some other party - this was 15 years ago or was er a little more and even later 10 years ago was it considered at all this is the question of the destruction or damage of the energy structure of ukraine and how it was written down, how it was all recorded in internal documents in ukraine, how is it possible to get out of this situation when part of the power units or part of the power plants are withdrawn from well, i will tell you that no country in the world is ready for such a terrorist missile attack on critical infrastructure,

including energy . russia is doing it, it is hitting the energy facilities and infrastructure of ukraine, using, in fact, since soviet times, uh, maps, plans and those facilities that were built. restored, this is a conspiracy of native zaporizhzhia dnipro-s-2 next to the transformer distributors, in particular, the russians aimed there with a missile, that is, i am their specialist, i will tell you that they use exactly all the other buildings and infrastructure, what are their plans and maps that were built against the soviet era moreover, such and such energy terrorism is, in principle, the first such and such from ukraine

, and ukraine has already taken the first blow, and it is clear that great britain and poland and all other countries have understood that something must be done about this and to protect power plants and distribution nodes and e-e trans-transport generation in order to protect against possible missile strikes, but there is only one defense, anti-aircraft and anti-missile defense, and this is what european partners are currently working with, and what they began to seriously allocate their budgets for, and this by the way, what does ukraine need in the first place and now with our american partners in europe we continue to work so that more modern and main more powerful air defense systems appear and are supplied in ukraine to protect the cover of the energy infrastructure, but as m. i admit that there were no

such protection plans and not and not only in us in any country of the european union, and such protection plans in the future in the future we must not just have but build protective structures around each a key energy facility, moreover, now this energy rammstein was really our idea, and in the parliament we met with the european commissioner, it's good that the president also supported this idea, we need the eu ukraine to work the energy headquarters to solve all the urgent needs of ukraine and this is the joint energy headquarters of 27 eu countries + ukraine is already working, i can tell you that more than 12 eu member states have already expressed their opinion and will provide possible assistance in the form of cables in the form of equipment in the form of transformers and in case of need and requests from the ukrainian side of the supply of electricity from the european market to the ukrainian market, that is, in

our electricity grid, in essence, this is such a serious energy cooperation and we must do everything possible so that by the beginning of winter, ukraine already has and uses the power of opportunities for our citizens, for the residents of ukraine, mr. valentin, the russian federation is using insane amounts of money to destroy the critical infrastructure of ukraine, of course, the reconstruction of this critical infrastructure will also require a lot of money, volodymyr zelenskyi informed the president of ukraine about how much massive strikes on ukraine cost russian terrorists, so on monday the cost of missiles and drones that flew to ukrainian cities cost russia in what valence is more than 2 million 300 000 average russian old-age pensions, we will hear from zelenskyi , they are not counted with the expenditure on energy taro, if you

look at the price of only yesterday's russian attack, then the use of missiles and drones cost russia the equivalent of more than 2 million three hundred thousand average russian old-age pensions and this is one blow, the monthly incomes of two million 300 thousand russian pensioners, instead of overcoming the poverty of their country, the russian leadership spends everything to avoid recognizing what historical they made a mistake with their war against ukraine on the battlefield, they are hopeless ukrainian soldiers, they have already proven it, but it takes time, it takes effort, it takes patience to prove that the hope for winter for russian terrorists will not come true . on the bombing of ukraine by the

russian federation, mr. valentin, i will ask a question that i have been asking probably throughout this great war, where is the point, where is the point of no return to the russian federation, when in them there simply won't be any more money at the expense of which they don't make rockets, build drones, is there a limit , or do they have the principle that if we don't live a lot , we won't start ? for 90% of russians, the point of no return is the bankruptcy of gazprom and the embargo on russian energy sources, so that they cannot sell them to the world market. moreover, we have already briefly talked about gas on all carrier numbers, oil as well as coal, this is the point of no return and this is the point the end of the russian economy and this is the point of impossibility further

to finance anya’s war against ukraine and as if to pay er even money with their military or mobilized or reservists. what difference will they actually make? this is what putin is leading russia to and in fact it is not such a distant prospect. i already told you specifically about gas already the statistics and concrete losses of russia , they lost 30% of the european gas market, but they didn't lose it for a day, they lost it forever, for tens of years. they tried to get it and had 36% of the crust before the war started. always lost more than that, the same with coal , and if the world is efficient and with oil, the same will happen, this is actually the end of the first war and the regime that currently exists in russia, because this is why it is so important that ukraine and all of us with our partners

seek effective international sanctions for the aggression against ukraine and the current sanctions on its own in the energy sector, this is the most painful, because it was from energy money that russia first financed the production of rockets, bombs, aircraft, artillery, and so on, which it has used and is using against us again and again in this war it is from this energy money that the huge russian army was financed, it is from this money that all the forces are also financed, many hundreds of thousands of security forces on the territory of the russian federation itself, in fact, this is, you know, the skeleton of the international energy money on which putin built the regime that is now there is also a regime in russia that is fighting against ukraine, the absence of this skeleton, the absence of such financial income means the end, mr. valentin, you have already said that in ukraine it will be necessary to revise

the concept of security and to approach it in a new way, the presentation zelensky also says that it is necessary to create a new security system at the borders, on the streets, in defense, there should be separate security relations between the states. everyone understands this war already. but after this war, everyone will treat security in a particularly objective way, and i believe that security will be the number one priority. security, we will destroy russia on our land, but this it does not mean that she will not return in 10-20 years, we do not know. i want to believe that they will change their attitude to the world and to their society without despising it, but still let go and let

democracy in, i would still like to believe, but we will see in any case we know that we must provide for ourselves and this is security at the borders on the streets. the defense part of security is here and we are ready to work. we talked a lot today and the governments talked about it, but we spoke separately. i am in favor of building separate ones. i do not want to talk in detail about defense relations between our states, valentina, after the second world war, the league of nations ceased to exist, and on this basis, the organization of the united nations arose, the founder of this organization was the soviet union, belarus and ukraine, well, at least three separate entities that became the founders of the un according to yours, after the russian -russian-ukrainian war, after our victory,

which should appear on the foundation of the un, i will say that it is in our interests, in our interests, that now, without even waiting for the victory and the end of the war, but already now it is necessary to establish a military-political union of ukraine-poland, great britain, lithuania and other countries that are essentially an anti-putish coalition ; moreover, i would also formally formalize it politically, admit that it was founded in one of the neighboring countries, as the rammstein headquarters is already working because defense is working, we talked briefly with you about energy, we also need , in addition to energy, grain and so on. are interested in such a union