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in many areas of the city, they made raids with weapons , took packages, threw what they found there, just in case, well, they were looking for a humanitarian or something like that. how are you a civilian? but i came to chron, looked up, left, hung out, came back. well, it was easier and easier for us to change clothes , five in a line for bread. trostianets was one of the 147 settlements of sumy oblast that were under occupation, and people like yevhenii trostianets were or were not in for every city and village, here are vases. and here he made bread boxes. he distributed many of them to everyone and pasted bottles like these. and he also repaired the house with his own hands and made baskets for flowers,
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but most of all he loved to run. buromlya antonina pronevych, the whole room of a thirty-year-old man is hung with certificates and medals. and probably the most important achievement was the national record . a few years ago, he ran a marathon in full military gear. here he set a record in this was his war ransom, and it was in bila tserkva, the record was presented to him on february 25, he was supposed to go to sumy for his next competition, but everything went awry when the first russian tanks drove into his native village, the man decided to join the partisans, he worked in a group together with fellow villager oleksandr on his car, traces of the russians can still be seen on it, they drove out of the woods between the reeds, and that's where the breakers were, that's where the channel was made, photo effects were wrapped, he understood, they also untied the string and into the forest 1,400 m, only the equipment passes there was a caterpillar smik and they went to water the blown-up
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cars, the killed soldiers collapsed in the middle of the roads, the russians began to understand that someone was destroying them. in their calmness, they began to look for partisans. alexander advised serhiy to take a break for a few days and not make any sorties. but the man could not resist, he knew that there were warehouses near the occupiers with automatic weapons and decided to pick up a few in the morning of march 11, he left the house with his mother, i went straight away, he turned around, i looked like this, they will look at the head, and maybe i see him in the last time, if i had to say something, i already had a peephole. the next day, his phone was not answered in the village, they started saying that serhiy was killed. i cried and screamed. all the neighbors here calmed down. did you see him here? no, you can. as he says, they were mistaken, they were not mistaken . serhiy pronevych was shot by the russians on march 12 on the road . not far from boromli, his body was found
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only two weeks later, when the russians left the region, he was one of 50 civilians from the trostyanets community who were killed by the russians, people's limbs were cut off, they were bleeding, their fingers were cut off people's legs were shot in the knees, many of us later , after the release of trostyanka, we found the bodies of people tied behind their backs for years with shot knees, shot heads, one of those who managed to survive capture, the deputy head of the okhtyr district council, valery portal, the occupiers captured him in trostyanka on march 13. we lay in handcuffs at night, the rules were installed in such a way that it was possible to move only with permission, that is, in order to move the fingers and the hand was pressed, traces remained, the left hand was completely mute in order to preserve you had to move your hand with your finger in order to move your fingers you had to ask for permission prisoners were transported from place to place exactly how many
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were there valeriy didn't know how to communicate with each other as a prisoner you couldn't keep them in such metal wagons in general i was shot like that there let's say p' five times, they say, bring the gun here now, one player, then the rest of the living will talk so that they understand the serious situation. well, there is such a thing. valeriy says, it seemed like it would never end, and one day they released another prisoner. just like that, without explaining anything, they took us outside the village of boromlia and on the highway they took us out of the car and told us to add up to 100. well, they untied our hands and told us to add up to 100, take off our hats and walk in the other direction without turning around. to trostianets, at about the same time , the operation to liberate the city from the occupiers began, and the first period came right to the command post, because i saw that the command post was being pounded for hectares, clearly the car and according to our testimonies
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given to us by the military that the first general was killed here on march 21, the ukrainian military went on the offensive at the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine. on that day, the occupiers refused to obey the orders of their commanders and retreated, taking with them 70 pieces of equipment. trostianets was almost ready to take the ring, so they released trostianets and went to psychics because they found themselves in a cauldron for the day it happens that they were completely looped and this group was completely surrounded by the 93rd brigade and would , of course, have been defeated here. on march 24, the russians left the city already on the 26th, ukrainian troops entered it the military by the end of the month, the enemy left sumy oblast sumy oblast could not be stopped, all the bs were plowing , these tanks would have passed, they would have reached kyiv, they would have missed everyone, not stopped, and we would have been there in 5 days, as the russians planned, and would have already been in their deep rear, and if we had not they started to stop them from smoking here and
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there to disorient them, to destroy, to take prisoners, to defend their cities, they were in kyiv at the beginning of april, the defense forces of ukraine managed to take control of the entire section of the ukrainian-russian border, since then there has not been a single day so that the russians did not fire at the border areas of sumy oblast, it is possible. this is how the enemy took revenge for his defeat in the region, according to the main intelligence department of the ministry of defense of ukraine, after leaving trostianets, the commander of the 13th tank regiment of the russian kantimyriv division shot himself, later journalist roman tsimbalyuk told about the heavy losses of units in the trostianets area and the okhtyrkas removed the commander of the first tank army of the occupiers, serhiy kisel, from his post, the whole city went on the defensive and thanks to this, thanks to this, it was not possible to withdraw the okhtyrka she showed with her actions that it is really possible to beat the enemy
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from the first days she showed by her example that she should not be afraid of him maybe we changed the course of the war maybe i don't know history i'll show you the time marshal gas station at the intersection of poltava kharkiv trostyanets met the boys here, the katsaps, many of them came to an end let's say that the occupiers and their equipment are on fire and the armed forces of ukraine and volunteers have caught them. we are victorious. okhtyrka withstood the onslaught of art columns and planes and had a good time along the road, idiots,
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tell me honestly, how are you? oh my god, i promised myself not to cry it's hard i'm tired i'm starting to shut down i don't go out i 'm hard the only thing that saves music my family my children when i'm hard i've been cleaning our house very clean lately get ready to walk in circles focus on your steps and breathing choose a calming mantra and repeat it out loud or mentally, for example, i've arrived, i'm home, i'm here, i'm
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free, i'm alive, everything is fine, i'm safe, put this technique in my first-aid kit, self-help, more here when we're scared, when we're in pain, when we have no more strength, we are supported by faith, faith in those who were there yesterday as a student who fell asleep in pairs and when he always enjoyed the belief that our heroes will conquer, return, protect, raise and eventually defeat us, we do not abandon hope, hope for ourselves and our strength, hope for a strong shoulder, a friend , hope for our indomitable people, we are inspired by love
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to be this winter we will fight the enemy and with the cold we will check the weapons and the insulation of our homes destroy the enemy and the drafts greet our brothers at the front and relatives from the front-line zone in the rear we will bring victory closer both on the front line and at home let's beat the winter together the rules of a warm country healthy care in the house is cool but not cold thank you for dressing your deer to warm one
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is easier than to heat an entire apartment let's beat the winter together the marathon continues the only news on the air column accent my name is oleksiy fadeev congratulations the world bank assessed the damage ukraine suffered from war worth 350 billion euros, this was specifically reported by ursula von der lam, speaking at the opening of the international expert conference on the restoration of the reconstruction and modernization of ukraine in berlin on october 25. the european commission added that this is more than it can afford to provide one country or a union german chancellor offsholds already in berlin called the reconstruction of ukraine the project of a generation, both politicians noted that the reconstruction must begin now, but we will talk about the restoration of ukraine today with our guests this is mykola davydyuk,
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a politician good afternoon, political scientist and vadim denysenko, and the director of the ukrainian institute of the future is correct, i did not confuse anything. i congratulate you, gentlemen. so, probably the first question is about these 350 billion because in berlin the sum of 50 was named. for example, in lugano, the ukrainian government, which made a presentation, estimated the recovery at 850 billion . we want more than what they will give us. are there any different amounts? well, in fact, i think that the war is not over and we can get out of 700 and we can get out to a trillion. by the way, the poles now demand from the germans a billion and a trillion, 300 billion for the second world war, that is, i think that in ukraine today we really need to count scythian the school of economics makes an economic assessment of the loss of the destroyed infrastructure. well, it all adds up later. it is clear that our figures may
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differ from the european ones for a simple reason . let us pay them. the honest european union , which gave putin 300 billion for gas and oil in a year, wants to say that they do not have 300 will be given to ukraine well, the first is the second - they are focusing on the numbers that will be able to get from the russian external assets of the central bank, government property and the property of oligarchs , which is also very important, russian oligarchs should also become donors not only iphones that abramovich gave to our guys when they returned, but real money, hundreds of billions of dollars in total, they should give here. well, of course, another source of income is the assets of the russian state and russian oligarchs on the territory of ukraine. what kind of money are those that are in russia today, a large number of european companies left their assets and it turned out like this, on average , the estimate is also 300 billion. if you take 300 billion , the estimate of the fund they hold is to add 300 assets.
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it turns out 700 against is practically called sorry , it hit on all fronts well, starting from here they started it themselves they started it themselves no one pushed them, they already lived, uh, no one from one side demanded such money, but at one time khodorkovsky, who was investigated by in the case of yukos, he found 500 billion russian money abroad, that is, it is already there, it is necessary to search further, find the frozen, confiscate and transfer legislation for this is being prepared in the european union and in britain, canada, legislation is being prepared states, it is generally ready, therefore, i think that no issues with these should become the only thing that political broadcasting will political agreements and transfer this money to ukraine, but to make it happen quickly is not right if he says it is a matter of generation let's give them three billion each to here so to play and lead us by the nose no, give us large sums so that we can mentally change the approach to the reconstruction of the state.
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a place in mariupol constantly, for example, we talk there, i don't know about any city kharkiv, borodyanka, kherson we must approach in a new way, change the meaning, see what foreign markets are waiting for today. i would like to ask you very much, sir, do you think that russia will pay for everything and in what way, well, look, it will be forced to pay , because anyway, uh, everything that we see at the moment, starting from uh, rhetoric about a dirty bomb and ending the stories that they will shoot down stalinist all four silent pages from uh over the world uh basically this means that specify in one blow whether or not 3,000 they definitely do not have more than one blow ago in principle one out of four thousand satellites, theoretically, very theoretically, because they can’t, it’s called yes, yes, yes , that is, in principle, they will not be able to get anywhere and
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they will be forced to go to reparations for payment from reparations another question when we are talking about 350 or 750 billion well in fact, we start with that, we need money - no matter how strange it is, but at this stage it is secondary, first we need to re-invent ukraine, we need to re-invent ukraine, but actually the problem is that it is not a problem therefore, will zastal be rebuilt, or will it be quite realistic that maybe they are needed, maybe not needed . unfortunately, this issue does not exist now, in fact, at the regional level. and at the central level, we are not reinventing ukraine, that is, there are no groups of people who are already starting to think about it what will chernihiv be like? er, how many people have returned there and now we understand that we are sorry, what does the institute of the future do then, well, look, we are a relatively small public organization that can hardly think for everyone. that is, we can talk about certain directions and can be included in the work in certain directions, but exactly er, we are at a state
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institution that should deal with this, obviously, after all , er, er, with an analogy with roosevelt's states, well , we need to do a scientific test, how did he then come up with this scientific test, er, 200 were collected from pennies of the smartest people in america at that time who invented where america will go after the depression after the great depression is what is now called yes, but at the state level, the state level with state thinking, which should say that ukraine in 2050 or 70 has to be like that, and starting from what it will be like in the 50th year, we should already be reimagining ukraine, because otherwise, otherwise, we will rebuild houses, we will build up cities, bridges, we will rebuild uh-huh heating plants but we won't rovka forward only for one reason, because we need to figure out what kind of place ukraine will be and why it will be necessary for the world through there uh, it’s just a performance for years, a favorite principle, now you are describing
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the future, it doesn’t exist, it’s a product, it’s like a project, it doesn’t come by itself, it comes, maybe the past or a variant of the past, we have to invent it. yes, you know, at one time, i always give the example of saakashvili , to whom i can relate differently, but when he came to power, he said that we will build tourism, and in particular, they rebuilt such a small town of a landmark, anyone who has been to georgia must have been there at one time. i asked the people who were involved in it. i say that there was something there in order for you to visit it like that and i say well, they just invented a tourist object. where are you going now? hundreds of thousands of tourists travel there , so we have to invent ukraine in the same way, invent a country that will be interesting to the world and that will allow us to return the maximum number of people well, i think not only inventing but also taking the strengths that we have it just brain engineering, engineering of the future that we ourselves are laying down, but we will understand that the agrarian woman will be because the agrarian woman turned out to be only about food,
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then they will lose, for example, water, not only the key moment you say because our problem is that in 2050, if everything goes as they go now, we will lose at least 30% of ukraine's water resources, but about the fact that the dnipro may not become well, everything is not so bad, but up to 30% of water resources if we are now, that is, if you ask me what we should invest money in first of all, it is even not bridges, it’s cleaning. and this is called a wise word revitalization of rivers, well, restoration , restoration, that is, in essence, there are simple mechanisms , for example, here is one of the projects, the simplest example , look, we are building a road there called poltava-kharkiv well, this is an example that existed in reality, which did not was introduced, the kolomak river flows nearby, and it kicks, in fact, with a cascade of swampy lakes, in principle, it would be possible to sand on the road poltava-kharkiv, well, or kharkiv, it doesn’t matter there, it doesn’t matter if it’s a little further from the cleaning of this river uhu well
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so they cleaned this river, it ceased to be a swamp, maybe it would even be revitalized there to a real river, and not a cascade of swamps, and at the same time, we would get much cheaper sand for the road, here it is, i had to make such a decision, what if we take the state, and so next well, look, there is already a fireplace yes, in this case, it is the cabinet of ministers, and it is just a political decision that the construction, and this is one of the small examples, the construction of all roads in ukraine must take place through sand that will be extracted from the rivers. for example, yes, these are the details, in fact, we need to build the principles of what we do, we say that the invested hryvnia should grow by a thousand, and this is the approach, not from the invested hryvnia. we say what will happen. for example, the same greek woman when we say we say that it is not only money and this is our strong point - it is also security
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, because when we see that 600 million people in the world depend on ukrainian grain, they are talking about what is our fate in the market if we talk about space and historical heritage and real remnants of some potential and a market that is waiting for it yes, we will talk about space a similar story enter a similar story with many other sectors we are already strong the most important thing is people first of all, i am completing my work. people are returning now. it has been six months. the great wave of return is because the school is because of the visa regime. there are many reasons . because of the jeans. now there are small ukrainians who went to school in france, germany, poland, i don’t know, in portugal, in america, everywhere, that is, we now have a global community of ukrainians who in the past 8 months have become just citizens of the world, but they are coming back and this will be the biggest and most expensive treasure because ot for example, if you take the successful countries of the middle east, asia, they say that you need
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20 to 200,000 people to study abroad every year. to see the mentality, but they remain ukrainians, this is the greatest gold in which we should invest and this is the future that will be made by ukrainians who have seen the war, who have actually seen it, i think, which putin brought here today, but who want a normal, bright future, not worse , but they don’t want either to agree to some alternative to that, understanding that now we need a war, now the first task is to win, return our people, return our lands, but it is possible to lay down these principles of future reconstruction and here i agree with scholz that part of this reconstruction can take place even now, because there are things that we need , for example, the contents of destroyed cities, we still have to prepare the houses for winter, we need to restore the heating somewhere , somewhere. you are romanticizing the situation, do you really think
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that everyone who left will return, the more if we are talking about even 300 billion dollars that will go into this economy, it will be the most dynamic economy in europe, all if you are together. okay, let's go let's break it down into 50-60 billion per year, which will come there for 5-7 years, it will be a dynamic economy that will develop, look at israel, it is already returning to south korea, like the one that fought, the economy is full of people, like north korea did not threaten her with weapons, and the irish returned, fleeing from britain, there was a war in their states, but then they returned with weapons, returned with money, returned with investments , ireland today is the largest it country and the representative offices of american offices in europe and google and facebook are all there, everyone is sitting in ireland, that's why it's not a problem for us, this issue will be irish, the mobilization of ireland is not a threat to russia. believe me , they are also imperial. look, i have a question. honestly
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say to yourself that at least 30% of those who left the country will never return, but we have to honestly say to ourselves and now, well, there are world statistics of people, god, let it be only 30%." well, in this case, when we are, there is once again i i was just trying to say this to everyone, if before we start talking about money, we should talk about ideology, because the marshall plan was not about
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money, it was about what germany will be like in 2022 or in 2010, and therefore without an answer to this question, we will move on . we can't go on with the second point, which is very important and which we don't like to talk about, i'll finish now, we really like to talk about the fight against corruption, about democratic values, about freedom of speech, say no well, let 's talk about it, it's important, we'll talk about it for 20 years let's talk 30 years, uh, in fact, in fact, any fight against corruption, any similar things. they start with consensus. elites. so when the elites say to themselves that we are moving. this is how we do it. or loses his business forever and flees from this country, a quote on this matter, please, just about the elites. well, later on, about the elites, but it sounds like this after the end of the war. the very next day, we have to reboot the country.
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year is true, and speaking of the elites, can you briefly remind who you consider to be the new elites, and what the new social contract of the elites today and this consensus should consist of. less so it seems, but can we consider the summer of the country financial political any people who began to flee before the start of the war in their country flew out ? seriously, it is a very popular topic now, no, but it is politics, i will answer you. japan, when the nuclear power plant explodes, literally for several years, yes, japanese people return home and go to help because the generations they left are similar to the history of
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israel, when it is also a war, and jews fly to israel to protect ukraine they also left, well, at least the money, those who stayed, those who stayed, this is the plane line and they must be taken into account so that the country is not divided between three oligarchs , they say, because we are the elite, and the rest of you sit and do you will be poor, look today is summer, not those who made money in the 90s, and i wrote it there in this article, not those who made money in the 90s, but those who were born in the 90s and today protect the country, those who are volunteers , those who fight, those who helps, those who pay , no one here definitely definitely came. for example, the hospitals that were opened in poland during the war, this is the real elite, the doctors who are running at the front today, mykola, how is it practical to implement it in the politics of the future of ukraine? it is necessary to clear the state of rights from the russian cadres it is necessary do we need to stop stealing do we need to pay do we need to pay do you know our part of the deputies went to monaco or somewhere else let's talk about it honestly and call their names everyone
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knows about it what it's about honestly talk about it and what will happen next, let's imagine the war ends with our victory, of course, we need to see them, here we are at the border, there will be elections, there will be elections , but we honestly talked about it more, everyone ran away , they stole, they lied. well, we don't know that there are people those who steal are called we do not know what the people who fled are called then we will come to the elections everything is fine we are a democratic country everything is fine through the election sieve it will be passed because otherwise we will not appoint this beautiful that ugly it seems that the people of the people purely elections we will pass as in the 14th year, but if there is no consensus, khalid , which i am talking about, we will continue to live in the same predimy that we lived in, and 50 billion a year will turn into 5 billion in someone's pockets, at best , when we return to kuchmin tradition kickback 10%. so the key point is we have to give an answer to well what is a social contract this is real these are a few important things this is an answer to the question er what is the future of this country we have to answer it er what
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will pride in this country be based on because in in principle, until february 24, we had a huge question. we had different versions. well , it was revealed. we did not articulate it. unfortunately, we were forced to reveal it due to the war, but this is another question. this is a question: who do we trust and as we we trust, we had one of the highest, the highest level of trust within society between people , that is, it is one of the most global countries that you don't trust that i don't trust you, in principle, you and i will not build anything under any circumstances uh, there are a number of other things there which are the basis of the social contract . i am talking about those that are the most important and those that lie on the surface, so we should actually. so when i talk about the invention of a new country, the social contract is part of this invention, because until we say that our rules of the game are as follows and whether we like it or not, the rules of the game will continue to be like this. in principle, you are going beyond these limits. in principle, you are completely out of this story
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regarding who the elites are. well, in fact , there is no definitive answer to this question in any country in the world. that you are summer analysts no , you can't because at certain moments elites become elites by position i.e. bad a good prime minister but he is by position elite e-e the mayor of the city he is good bad but 50% of the city's population voted for him in conditional elections he is also an elite and that's why it's summer a fairly large circle of people who are engaged in business, politics, science is a moral authority , among other things, we have very few moral authorities, despite everything, despite the war, but i am not up to that, i am up to the point that no one will now morally repeat numerical authorities, god forbid, that is, i am very put very carefully
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