by my relatives, i received certain psychological injuries. and actually, this should be manifested in the free will of every person in ukraine, and to pay back for what the military is doing for us now, but i, lesya, mentioned this story with minibuses there or there with some kind of buses . i really wouldn't want there to be such stories after the war about the fact that we have there that our feathers are reduced to the fact that a person has there can't help but pay for travel to public transport, i would like everyone to have their own car and be able to drive for themselves and not think about it about it just soviet begging about this soviet attitude towards those own soldiers who somehow miraculously throw them into those meat grinders where they are thrown by their zhukov and now their sections, as they call him sorovike, are not the same as battalions, on the day of the battalion's death, the question is that those people who now at the front, a lot of people know about it, a lot of my friends and acquaintances are now at the front, there really is now the

ukrainian elite to a large extent, just as it was 100 years ago, and the youth, and these are the people we want to see as the builders of the new country. when they will return, and it seems to me that what is meant when we talk about benefits are benefits for studies at prestigious universities for some programs so that those people are adapted precisely in order to return and give impetus to the reconstruction of this country so that a worthy one here comes to the european union, for example and to nato at this moment absolutely because it is true that now we have conducted a study of the fund together with the rating agency, but what do our people understand by the word veteran, and unfortunately up to 30% of respondents answered that veteran is conditional grandfather, a veteran of the second world war, that is, there is still no total understanding that a veteran can be a 20-year-old boy or a 25-year-old girl

. in civilian life, in fact, the future of ukraine's prosperity and, in general, our ability to be economically independent, including the creation of opportunities instead of creating this dependence on benefits, is the main vector you absolutely right to be grateful to the armed forces of ukraine and volunteers not only when they defend our borders, but also when they return to a peaceful life, this is precisely about a responsible society and about the country we want to see ukraine as thank you ms. nataliya for the conversation. nataliya kalmykova , executive director of the ukrainian veterans fund of the ministry of veterans affairs, was with us. we are moving on and with us now. pavlo rozenko, vice president of the red cross society good morning to you, mr. pavla. good morning

to you and all our tv viewers. the red cross society is the red cross, that's right. the red cross of ukraine. what challenges does the red cross of ukraine face now? with the difficult humanitarian situation in our country and over the last, let's say, months we cannot say that somehow the humanitarian situation in the country has somehow improved and that gives us opportunities to relax or not to do something, that is why our main commission is to help ukrainians, this is definitely the direction of humanitarian aid, this is the direction of evacuation, every day our rapid

response units work in shelling zones, and we rescue people together with security forces and help people in the first emergency with the help of psychological help with us. as you know, we have open programs for financing e-e forced migrants and also people who rent out housing to e-migrants and all financial expenses are carried out at the expense of the red cross of ukraine and our international partners. well, this is our main mission today, which we continue to carry out during the last 9 months. and as for our relations with the international movement , well, i think everyone already knows, but thanks for question i will once again remind you that the red cross

of ukraine is a separate public ukrainian organization and we are usually participants of the worldwide red cross movement, but such organizations are the international committee of the red cross which deals with the issue of our prisoners of war and the issue of exchanges and the issue of presence in the places of detention of our prisoners of war is still a different organization. it has a separate representative office in ukraine and the red cross of ukraine is not neither a branch nor a representative office in it, divisions of the international committee of the red cross in ukraine, i say once again that the international committee of the red cross has a separate representative office in relation to the russian red cross

, i can only say one thing that despite the fact that this the organization also has the emblem of the red cross, but its principles and work are far from the principles of the world red cross movement, and today it is a russian public organization that is subordinate to the administration of president putin and actually fulfills all the whims of the putin regime, including those that concern and war against ukraine, therefore, from our side, we are collecting all the facts of the violation of the principles and humanitarian law by the russian red cross, and er, in principle , we are red-christening, and we are certainly aggressive and we are actively contacting international organizations so that the appropriate rights are granted, let's say this is

the reaction to all the illegal and inhumane actions of the russian red cross, we are also working in this regard, literally yesterday it became known that the russian red cross in crimea stole property from the ukrainian, well, christ. well, that's a small touch to the beautiful portrait of the red cross, which operated in russia, but unfortunately, this is the first, not the last, operation of such a russian red cross. we remember that it was the russian red cross that was involved in of the actual deportation of ukrainians from the occupied territories, it was the russian red cross to our forced migrants who were deported to the territory of russia that distributed the symbols of the so -called special military operation and symbols

with portraits of putin and so on. and it was the russian red the spine has now actively included this propaganda campaign we are together, which collects aid to mobilized military personnel, which is a direct and gross violation of humanitarian law and, in principle, the red cross therefore definitely the reaction of the red cross of ukraine is harsh, princes , and we will definitely do it further. well, this is a fantastic story about the fact that the russian red cross, so-called, simply stole the property of the ukrainian red cross. well, and the fact that they also participate in fact in in this war is on the side of the russian federation. well, you know who the older viewers are, they probably remember the soviet children's film kingdom of crooked mirrors. it seems to me that russia is a very good metaphor for this kingdom of crooked mirrors.

mirrors, where in fact everything that, for example, in the normal world means something in them means something completely different , that's why they have, let's say, the bootsman for human rights is not an ombudsman at all, and not human affairs at all. that's why they have, for example, mass media, there is no media at all, it's just propagandists, they are journalism as well. there was just a supposedly christian church, which is actually violence, murder, death, and just some darkness, and i think that even the natives 200 years ago, the moors, who still ate people, would say, well, you know, this is such a religion not for us it's a little interpreter, you know very well, well , there really is one that you can look at again , i'm talking about the activities of the red cross of russia, that is, the red cross is a humanitarian organization that, in fact, must carry out an exclusively humanitarian mission, and today it actually includes support for the russian

army and russian mobilized this organization has a direct influence and does everything to ensure that this war and this aggression against ukraine continue and thus, well, let's put it this way, it actually becomes a military er military organization that supports crimes and supports the war against the peaceful state of ukraine, yes, that is such a paradox. and if we talk now about kherson oblast, a territory not under the control of ukraine, from where the so-called mass evacuation of my father took place, it goes in essence, well, we have the discovery of a humanitarian disaster, how is the situation there , can the red cross water somehow with the help of the international, in particular, the red cross society , it is somehow possible to have access to those territories, at least theoretically, to these people, eh, look at things, the

situation in kherson is extremely critical because you you know that the occupying authorities essentially called and forcibly removed part of the people, part of the people of kherson to a-a territory of russia or the occupied part of the kherson region to the left bank. nevertheless, for today, according to our information, tens of thousands of people from the sun remained in kherson and are in kherson and the problem is that in this part, well, today in kherson, all industrial sites are closed en masse, all e-e stores, all pharmacies in the whole of kherson, today there are only 2-3 pharmacies where you can buy medicines, everything else it was closed, boarded up and everything was looted or, as they say, evacuated to the left bank, although the

shops were simply looted and those who know , for example, there was a huge shopping center , a factory was in kherson, it was simply destroyed, and today, well, let’s say this is what is done in all shops and medical facilities in the kherson region and precisely covered up in this situation that today kherson has no access to the red cross of ukraine. yes, no humanitarian mission, so the best answer to this must become must become consistent or calm e the liberation of kherson region from the occupiers, and here we can say that in the liberated part of kherson region, we have the opportunity with the local authorities to actually begin the reconstruction of this infrastructure of

kherson region. so we provide not only humanitarian aid there, but also participate in infrastructure projects, in particular, we bought kilometers of electric cables there for restoration energy supply to the de- occupied part of the kherson region where we do not have the opportunity, well, let's say, to conduct electricity so quickly and people do not want to leave, we bought it there literally yesterday, dozens of so -called boilers were handed over for furnace heating of communal and local structures and individuals, so this should become an example of what to do next with kherson oblast, where to occupy and definitely restore the normal life of our fellow citizens who remained today in those ukrainian territories and there is literally a little time left, i want to raise a completely different topic. i

just went to pavel rozenko's page on facebook and saw that this topic is also important to pavel. dovzhenka center for the position of doroshenko center, a person who is a dog trainer and a hypnotist and what are the working hours there, a journalist called her, she refused to give any comments, but then they called from another number and said we want to make an appointment for the meaning of hypnosis, and she took a very long time and for half an hour she explained that how she sits there with the children found time for this in a word, i don’t know if you also saw in that some kind of simple mockery from the cinema of the community that said and you want to have your people like this in the center dovzhenko you you don't want to share these lands with the developers there in your own pieces, well, then we will appoint a dog trainer for you. the text of his time caligal the horse was introduced by the senate in order to humiliate the roman senators who insisted on their rights and on the remnants of some

democracy in the roman empire. from the 14th to the 19th year, i was the deputy prime minister of ukraine, who was in charge of the system of the state cinema and the ministry of culture, in particular , and uh, really, that's right, let's say that from the 14th to the 19th year, we really saw the renaissance of ukrainian when they began to really invest in resources and in the material and technical base of cinema , such organizations began to invest significant funds in this rise of ukrainian cinema, and dozens of quality films were actually shot, which, by the way, won international awards and international recognition both at the cannes festival and at other world festivals. that is, we felt even then that ukrainian cinema,

which has colossal traditions, began to breathe and develop, and it is very unfortunate that now those people who were then involved in this so-called renaissance of ukrainian cinema, they were managers, they were producers, today this cinema is hidden and they actually put the state cinema under manual control and today, let's be frank, the state cinema today is completely dependent on the head of the president's office, and it will be brought under the control of the ministry of culture, and they really put it there tame people, the person who headed the zaporizhzhia cinema today heads the state cinema and in fact today she speaks at all levels like this and what are you going to do to me, i am the apprentice of the head of the office

the president and what you say and write about me doesn't matter to me. i will do my own thing, so today everything really depends on the community that was united around the idea of ​​reviving ukrainian cinema and today it is really possible not so much politics as the very end of the community unite and give these families an assessment of the phenomenon when ukrainian cinema and the dovzhenka center are actually being destroyed as, well, let's say it as one of the elements of preserving the cultural heritage of ukraine, and the problem is not even that they appointed a dog trainer, the problem is in because they fired a person who breathed a professional person who breathed this situation, who brought this dovzhenka center to an extremely high level and

as a cultural site and a site that archived this heritage, that is, i still hope that all of us will unite and give accordingly, let's say you are fighting the intention of the president's office to influence this situation so that they are heard talking more than one day and more than one week and more than one month pavlo rozenkovi, this is the president of the red cross society of ukraine, there was a wonderful anecdote with us already appeared even a few days ago on this topic . volodymyr posted him as a politician to the cynologist . let's manage the film archive well. and maybe my husband will be in charge of the cameras. and why was he sitting? what's more, it's time to change even tkachenko in the ministry of culture, change him and he is a

bodybuilder , because he has something. in general, the time of war shows that this situation has passed in our country. well, it shows that, unfortunately, we continue to select people not according to the principle of quality , not according to the principle of professional knowledge, experience. today we see something else, there are professional people in power, this is also true, but their output is not as large as it should be during the war, during that time, when it is necessary to consult the whole society, it is necessary to tighten. sorry for the slang of people who understand in certain directions really understand and deeply orient themselves, and today the practice let's better name the worst

, but it continues to exist in its own way, and this is not only connected with the e-e direction of cinematography, but in principle, it is observed today in the public sector, pavlo rozenko said about what he has to connect culturally with the community in order to give some kind of impetus, we see that cultural figures in one way or another write about it and talk about it on various platforms and do some actions, and they have the impression that they are simply ignored or maybe culturally, should the community of artists, cinema artists be supported or can politicians somehow support it, and it is also possible to raise this issue in the verkhovna rada, i don’t know. well, i don’t know. at the expense of the verkhovna rada, other issues are currently in the verkhovna rada, including the budget , but uh, i would look at what is happening . even through the lens of the budget, it was adopted yesterday, and there are good things related to, for example , the ukrainian army, the financing of the

security sector, the protection of the warring state, it is definitely very important, more than one and one trillion hryvnias this is a record, but on the other hand, we again see unprofessionalism and such selective approaches when the cabinet of the ministry of ukraine is reviewing the proposals of the parliament, which is in principle unacceptable. many rights related to cultural pensions, including the financing of the ukrainian army, the financing of the ukrainian army has been increased by the financing of the social sector of the support of the underprivileged population of people with disabilities. in addition, almost uah 2 billion, including for the purchase and broadcasting of russian-language content to russia, and they tell us that it will be

used to somehow influence the russians so that they change their opinion about putin and his entourage and start fighting how they are fighting and that we will see their leaders on february 24 after the 24th. for example, i am sure that with such measures we will definitely not be able to change anything in russia, only the ukrainian army and the ukrainian state and our international partners will be able to change it, but it will be spent funds, i really want to believe, although it is believed with great effort that these funds will not be used, including in corruption schemes, because today we see a lot of investigations by your fellow journalists about what today in the media space, public funds are

used for pr, on the one hand, and on the other hand, how is this connected with corruption schemes? there are many other things that are unacceptable during the war, they are generally unacceptable, and during the war it is even an option - it is looting. and for this, you have to bear responsibility according to the laws of wartime , in general, how is the parliament now, is there still a parliament of independence, explain your colleague in the parliament at one time and according to the faction here, veteri said, i don’t want to screw up his words now. well, it roughly amounted to what he said during the war. look at the history of other british parliaments, for example, in the 40s of the last century, the parliament just votes for what the head of state will say, ah, who said it? i apologize , oleg donbar said it, and oh, how i am. i am very sorry that my colleagues do not know history and do not watch history. i would like to remind you that exactly

the example of britain showed the unification of all political forces during the war for the struggle for the independence of this state, this is one time, and on the other hand, neither the parliament of britain nor the people in britain has ever been a state. -what or do they do anything worked for the victory of the ukrainian parliament and today they are working for victory, but this does not mean that any nonsense should be supported, believe me, in the parliament today it is gaining 300 votes, you can see it on the scoreboard of the verkhovna rada, everyone and there is no opposition, there is no power, we can this is to be seen on the scoreboard of the verkhovna rada because there is no broadcast, unfortunately, unfortunately, the same, and this is just a return to the question of censorship, which is also present today. i understand that there should be censorship in and in the media and in politicians, but it

should not harm freedom of speech, i don’t think that your channel or other channels that work today on the territory of ukraine and uh are in the wind, they can actually work in favor of the aggressor country, just like the people ’s deputies, who are mostly today, everyone in the verkhovna rada did not flee abroad, and there are actually such people, but uh, this is a completely wrong approach , then i suggest to my colleagues to simply draw up a mandate to take up arms and go to the front and not spend uh, taxpayers' money, because from them then there is no benefit, based on their words, their benefit is only in the button, and anyone can press it for them, and in principle, there are enough votes and a monomajority is a little p oleg can go, and probably, as i would say, even the meanness of the situation is that when, for example there are controversial issues

and they do not have the good support of the votes of the verkhovna rada. well, very often these decisions are made at the expense of simply such things that have been fertilized by the former deputies, that is, who, as i understand it, are simply voting in order not to deprive them of those are there no mandates themselves? well, to what extent is it a moral situation to use the support of these deputies, who are in limbo? i don't know the motivation. i think it's better for you to ask your colleagues in the parliament . that the percentage of 80 without the support of the two groups that were created on the basis of the past fractions of the platform for life and the opzj that is why it is yes, you can look at the results of the vote, this is in principle no one does not hide it and they even talk about it and the leaders of the monomajority and shulyak said about it as

the head of the party, well, it probably suits them, but let's see, let's see, mr. dmitri. well, again, we say that if there is financing of some tv channels, yes, that is, this dispatch is noticed by the people's elected representatives, it disappears, and then it disappears from us again it appears, but already in another place, a little bit in the city, and again, what can they do in the same place, because it is so in that place, and there is a paradox that it is just brazen after the decision of the parliament was not to support this amendment, it was rejected, they voted. in general, i don’t quite understand how the representatives of other groups of factions who after that voted for this amendment will come to lviv, for example, and will explain this to their colleagues, and for the future and trust, they will come to tell their voters in lviv how they allocated funds

of the state budget to purchase from a company that, to put it mildly, has such a reputation, er, to purchase this content in order to broadcast it in russia. well, it was not easier to spend these funds to support pensions, scholarships, a poorly protected quest population in the same lviv yes, for example, i am not talking about the territory, i simply do not understand how they did it in mykolaiv, or in odesa, but in lviv. i think that many colleagues did not understand, they will ask. i think that it is worth asking. why did they do this, why did they highlight these funds are not for the army. and we proposed how to do it. you understand the difference is that if you criticize, you must give a proposal. we gave a clear proposal on how to make this amendment not happen. and the funds could be allocated in another direction. unfortunately, this is not the case. i'm just trying to understand that it's a time of war. yes, we support our government during the war because we understand that it will just

act against us, and we want to win this war and win back ukraine and drive putin and his army out of here. we can't gather for protests, for example. yes, we can't because well, it's not possible in wartime, er, people's elected officials can't do anything with documents because they're being dragged anyway, what to do in such situations, it's just that when they're ignored, some will is completely ignored of the public the will of those whom the public has delegated to the parliament, you understand that now it is difficult to really fight with it freedom of speech must be here in order for us to convey this position to the voters and to the people so that they understand what is happening , a lot of good things are being done, this must also be recognized and e- support in the actions of the authorities in the actions of the office of the president of the cabinet of ministers of the verkhovna rada of ukraine but if this is frankly absurd or things that go on well, you understand, ukraine is definitely not russia

, it will never be an authoritarian state society has always highly valued democracy and freedom of speech. and it is for it that the ukrainian army is fighting today, because these are the values ​​that create the ukrainian state, so i am sure that you know, we will fight and fight first against russia and then against all the bad things that are happening here as well it will be necessary to justify, god forbid that we do not destroy our democracy. kuma is a little bit with problems. but after all, there were problems in the first place, of course, we are all aware of this too. years ago and the people's deputy of ukraine was with us, but now iryna koval will be with us. she already has a fresh selection of news that she will present to us. and we will see what happened there in the last hour. thank you , colleagues. the night passed and it was dawn