photo numbers capture some city there some village there some territory and so on and so on glory look we have such prisons of the nazi regime that were arranged by the nazis where they burned jews there and not only jews there people who ended up in these and these prisons and they are now turned into museums, i looked in solovki, a museum was also made with this slovak prison, uh, people are already traveling the world, visiting, coming to these prisons, looking uh, they have in front of them some museum exhibits that amaze and confuse the trickster is knocked off his feet eh but why does the world still consider nazism eh evil and the soviet regime that destroyed people eh too just an incredible number in such simply some also from some crazy

way and no one talks about the fact that he had witnesses would be punished as if from the western democratic world i also ask this question because it turned out that now we have a lot of literature, in particular, in particular, the american journalistic model, you probably know her, she is a journalist who very meticulously researched the history of the gulag of the main headquarters of the main headquarters of the e-e camps of the soviet union. yes, she did not depart from the principle that she announced, so to speak, the dead of the uglagu, and it was the whole empire. you can imagine that in the soviet union there were more than 5,000 and

that's it before our prisoners, the sixties were still in those camps in the bordovian ural yakut camps and so on, this empire of extermination of people counted 5,000 such associations of the camps themselves because, for example, in solovki on in the solovetsky archipelago there are a whole lot of islands a series of islands there are islands er-er s- the big solovetsky island then er-er then then there is er-er yeah big big e muselma-azer e hare camp for another island it was a women’s machine that

worked just to destroy people and so far it hasn’t she has not been punished, now god gives the number based absolutely on documents and evidence. but you can imagine that the nkvdists then did not meticulously record who died, who you did not shoot, this is something that could be documented, she gives the number that 20 million people died in the holag prisoners what is it and what is the number, because in each camp there were mostly ukrainians and e baltics, literally the flower of the ukrainian nation was destroyed. yaroslav unfortunately, we have more time for communication. thank you very much for this conversation. was actually with us there in the police station, then among those shot was valerian pidmogilnyi, the one who

wrote the first urbanist novel, the city, and what a letter he wrote to his son from prison . i love romance novels, how are you, write me a letter respect, walk, be cheerful, but you must obey. i congratulate you, dad, these are the same. yes, they are a little different. yes, he wrote such letters from the 34th year to the 35th year, but in the 37th year. on this day, he, like dozens of other representatives of the ukrainian intelligentsia primarily of the urban intelligentsia well, he even had roman pidmohylnyi call the whole city and but ukrainians the city about kyiv about a guy who comes to kyiv and actually just then ukrainization is taking place, ukrainian language courses are being organized well , besides all that, this guy is like that some girls are attractive to ukrainians, in fact, in this system of the ukrainian ssr, the role of funny hochlovs and harem pants was assigned to them, who were supposed to be only on the stage, and little by little

, through the cities, they were russified, russified and became , er, ordinary russians, actually. yes, it’s interesting what else the alerian pidmogilny could create if he the nkvdists didn't take his life. well, you see the letter is written in ukrainian, and valerian pidmohylnyi was born in the village of chapli, this is the katerynoslav province. that is, we recently showed how our people took ashes on in kherson oblast, one of those shot in the same way. on this day, it is mykola kulish, he is, for example, the rest of the same. that is, it is eastern ukraine, which was ukrainian-speaking, which had its own ukrainian-speaking intelligentsia, and we know the most famous ones in the first place, but that’s how it was and hundreds of thousands of other representatives of this intelligentsia who were also destroyed in the 1930s a-a well, now we will talk about

everyday problems, the director of the prime company group a-a dmytro levushkin is in touch with us p dmytro good morning good morning we have for you now such a situation that the electricity disappears, the shutdowns will be removed in order to save and load our system, accordingly, people are all simply buying generators en masse, who can afford to install them. yes, gasoline diesel ones, accordingly, they also need to be refueled. which are not electric cars, because this is not a question of fuel supply, but there are also some questions related to the functioning of gas stations because they also need electricity, not all of them are equipped with generators, this was not necessary before

well, it is not so important and in my personal opinion, it is about 25% of gas stations equipped with generators, but it is also now very, very active, everyone is working on this, the owners take gas stations and in small gas stations to equip their stations with generators and ensure uninterrupted operation. well , in general, this does not affect the supply of fuel. that is, you will not create such pressure, in your opinion, on the entire market. even if everyone there starts to turn on this you understand, we are entering the power of winter, it is always some kind of decrease in demand, it is always reduced in the epopot, if even if we assume that some of the volumes will be consumed by generators, well, it is not very big, who has the volume or what they somehow influenced to the market, that's why i don't apologize for some uh, some kind of assault on the fuel market. i

think that what happened in the summer, when there was a fuel crisis, is already in the past, and now we can say that the fuel market is stabilized and there is no need to wait for something special. it's now okay, when is there in this plan? and now people, what are the issues of prices? well, it’s not so big anymore. by the way, the price is now completely freely formed, that is, anyone at the gas station can set any price, any owner of the network or not. do you understand now? probably the best times, there was market regulation of prices, there was no such stupid market regulation, there was a related price regulation in the state, it will be the state, it was very wrong in my opinion

like in europe, uh, it's completely european quotations, it's completely european logistics, it's completely free competition, now that's all, everything's fine now, so there 's no need to stick with the price. ideologically, expect a small increase, it’s already like that there, well, within one hryvnia for diesel and there for gasoline, you don’t even need to expect it there, it’s okay, there are all kinds of winter types of winter fuel there with different additives, what will happen to this with the onset of cold weather after enough winter fuel, there is more uh, it affects uh, that's why

it 's heavier, more heavy liters and these liters in the winter fuel volume becomes less, well , due to the density, this is what we have, well, this is ordinary physics, and what has to do with additives, here we will still be playing the lottery, i will explain why, and to date, we do not have an understanding how will this fuel, which is now being spent in ukraine, behave? because well, what was the previous seasons, did we work in kremenchug moser there on it, well, of course , lukoil there are some other types of fuel, which was now this fuel is not available we do not understand how we will behave in the middle of winter fuel, for example , produced by saudi arabia, which you are currently

supplying to the market of ukraine there is a very large range of fuels supplied to the market, and market players do not understand how it will behave . why? they say let's see, the first frosts will come and we'll see everything because that's why i advise after the first frosts, which will be there somewhere - 10 - 15, to be very careful and insure that car owners are antihelminths, well, with some kind of additives, you know, as god saves, or saving the drowning hands of the speakers themselves at first, the frosts will be interesting, there will be surprises. i guarantee you that at the height of the crisis , i myself witnessed how people suffered from low-quality fuel, somewhere there, later on,

how good is the fuel now, is there a chance somewhere refueling there with something very bad or average fuel is even better due to the fact that there are more european brands there saudi arabia as you mentioned and so on in gas station chains that value their name pavlovnik is of better quality and which gas station chains and actually there on some barrels and such single gas stations, e-e transferred more to worse, two words, i explain its oil production in our side, in our country, in ukraine, it is also not visible anywhere, it is the economy, it is a very important e-e segment of the economy in ukraine, oil is produced, well, gas condensate is different and it needs to be processed somewhere. and we cannot export it there because we have no infrastructure and it is very difficult to export what we have, so we

process it. where do we process it? there is no kremenchug. there is no link, what is left is a mini mtz, they don’t have enough good equipment to make it, and the quality of the product is a semi-finished product, something like that, the person is very high-quality, so it also enters the market and is needed at the expense of what, at what price, it is cheaper there is also a network for the eu or a small one for scooters, they want to earn more. well, to earn more, they buy and sell it, so here you can get a surprise . high-quality fuel, first of all, on diesel cars, the catalyst destroys the exhaust system, the fuel system, and then the engine, these are very valuable things in the repair, well, you need to

understand this. this is a fact. it is allowed. first of all, it is allowed by the state. we have an understanding , because there is a law for the cabin that we have adopted, which allows , well, this fuel is freely available. so, it is sold , well, here everyone decides for himself whether it is acceptable to refuel at a gas station, for example, at some gas station there . dmytro lyoshkin , director of the prime group of companies, which, by the way, also has its own gas stations, was with us today. thank you very much for this explanation. well, let's talk a little bit about money and how we will live next year. to whom who will have enough money, who will not have enough, maybe we will talk too much about the budget, which the verkhovna rada passed in the second reading, oksana savchuk, people's deputy of ukraine, and yaroslav yurchyshyn will be in touch with us, as well as her colleague,

i expected oh, they are already on our airwaves good morning to you gentlemen, i congratulate you. glory to ukraine, can i start like this, uh, unexpectedly, it is possible, but your colleague mp andriy osadchuk, characterizing this budget, said that it was a difficult choice between conditional security and democracy, and he leaned towards security do you understand that this is the most important thing right now, i won't ask you to explain what he meant but i'm talking about what you also had this feeling when you voted on this budget i had them because i mostly did not vote for the state budget, and i could easily argue what was wrong with me in these documents. unfortunately, i expected better from the

state budget. this year, i still expected that the majority of people at the bank which form this budget will put the country in the first place not only in words, but also in the document. and this will mean that they will not hide different taxes for those who vote in the form of a hidden social contract. marathons where only those who praise will be admitted, this will mean that there will be no such ones, that the funding of parties will be reduced, because 800 million hryvnias for me is a huge amount of money, which in my life was peaceful, i voted for this state budget, but a lot of ukrainians and my comrades at the front and there is the only argument. i say and i said that i will tell everyone that way. well, after the election,

i will remember this to everyone after the victory, because i voted for this state budget with a heavy heart only because we have a war today. i only because it is the key. i understand that the guys at the front should not interfere in their affairs. are we agreeing or not agreeing to something here, and we are not even a servant of the people, that's why i voted for it, although it was hard in my heart and i won. of course, this is defense spending on defense and spending on those socially vulnerable people who they simply won't live on the few thousand hryvnias that are available today, but this is a feeling of resentment, this is the feeling that no one has understood anything about what is happening today, and this has remained. if before i did not allow myself to criticize the government so much, after this state budget, i promised the maximum number of people to tell that, unfortunately, in this state budget, in addition to state issues, there were also their

personal issues, and people should know about it. yaroslav, what impressions do you have, or is this not some kind of abuse of the fact that ukrainians are now cheering for that to defend ukraine from an external enemy and, accordingly, they turn a blind eye to something else , in fact, this is actually abuse. although they cannot be qualified as a-a legal concept and or for abuse of power, in principle, we have criminal liability, but use well, what is power takes advantage of the moment and sews his private interest into important things, and that is why we have a choice to always vote for security or, actually, for democracy .

representatives of the authorities well, they have already won, so they are preparing for the recommended reconstruction, at least for well, in fact, a lot needs to be done in order to win the war and protect our boys at the front and their relatives as much as possible in the rear, when the money is sewn into the budget for the national marathon, but on the other hand, you know. well , it's good that you clearly showed where to look, because we will specifically monitor these and this money will not be spent before the needs are met. our military well, in fact, there is still a lot there are many things that are prescribed there by the ministry of culture, and somewhere else they are not highlighted separately. so,

if such options are abused, they should not be used for the defense needs of a warring country, but it is much easier , therefore, there are things that we will control in the budget, because it is clearly visible in them that they are not about security, there are things that we will control because they are not clearly spelled out. i can positively say that we managed to achieve full funding for anti-corruption bodies, because in the process of preparing for the second reading, 60 billion e-e disappeared somewhere i apologize for the additional 60 million for the specialized anti-corruption prosecutor's office, which now, in principle, investigates cases, returns significantly uh, more resources, uh, they increased somewhat for culture, this is also very good. but, unfortunately, i completely agree with my colleagues, it was a vote with envy, but with sadness that, unfortunately, the current government does not

fully a-a prioritize the issue of security and tries to solve something for itself e-e the allocation of funds and the continuation of even this national marathon, the only news of the freedom tv channel explains that it is necessary that it is we need unifying propaganda inside the country and outside the country ms. oksano, how many times have you attended one marathon that is broadcast in ukrainian and another marathon that is broadcast on the freedom tv channel and broadcast i understand that overseas russian-speaking across the ocean, well, we are russian-speaking. i have never had any speeches related to the national marathon, so you can count two, two or three times since the beginning of the war, mr. yaroslav. and you? well, it will be similar somewhere

several times since the beginning of the war, and it is, in principle, very important on the topic of anti-corruption, and if, in principle, i ask about the russian-language marathon, i do not see the logic of it, because we do not have the opportunity to broadcast it is for ukraine of the occupiers in the championship, the territories are, well, quite limited and it turns out that this is just another waste of public funds in principle . normal information it is possible with emphasis on our achievements in order to motivate people but in order for it to be adequate there must be different positions

. it is national only in name until it is represented proportionally, even if there is such a different opinion, because even experts, unfortunately, very often do not know what kind of colleagues perform at the national marathon, well, that is, a what kind of expertise can people have who don't know, well , relatively speaking, the legal community there, i don't know. some people comment on constitutional reform or judicial reform, yes, it can't be. that's why it's so cheap, it's actually quite enough. propaganda but why is it cheap for the government, because it's for taxpayers' money, we will definitely deal with this, maybe not so actively now, but if you really need a good mobilization with the help

of information mechanisms, then you need to include all national channels, and not those selected by something. well, and actually, what this is about is money, for example , more than, for example, grants for the creation of business development. for today, they only told about those veterans who return, for example , with injuries, who cannot return to the army later, and there, and for example, they could be allocated funds for so that they could start their business, as an example, i also want to say something else about this fund for the liquidation of the consequences of armed aggression, there is 35 billion, and again, we have a state regional development fund there is a lot of money there, is there an understanding of how these funds will work, or will we not have such a situation that we recently saw, or rather just now in the dnipropetrovsk region, when the head of the military ovasha turns out to be distributing funds, large amounts of more than a billion hryvnias through the company

of his country, for me this is it looks like this. i hope that not everything will be so sad, but at the same time, i hear something that i understand, as you understand, that some bills in the session hall are going very hard, but they find the support of parliamentary groups that between they always find opportunities to vote for something there and provide for the district. and what does it mean when my colleague said that if a rocket landed in zakarpattia once, it means that this is a region that needs funding, so we understand that it is also seen as such, all this is a definite economy, but the mechanism is really today a lot of mechanisms of transparency have been lost and switched to manual management regimes of the cabinet of ministers,

on the one hand, at the beginning, it was a war, mechanisms were handed over. today, i am convinced to return them because there is an active parliament, a lot there are active local councils, er, not in the entire territory , active hostilities, fortunately, that is why they gather and work, er, it is very difficult, for example, to get money for certain types of things, you know, i tried to get funds in buch through vatsak kyivske for replacing windows e there where they were simply during the war completely destroyed in the house and believe me, it was such a hellish path that the head of the condominium with the residents could not go through because there was no transparent system of how it is allocated, this is the wish of some one person who will give you a calculator and not give you one and i i understand that this year there are still no transparent mechanisms for the use of these funds, that is what we need to work on, that is, that these funds that have been

pledged go as transparently as possible, so that we can see where they are going and then, accordingly, people are responsible for this, this will allow us to direct them better use according to those needs, where they will be a phenomenon, i wonder what we heard today from the association of cities, by the way, about the centralization of subventions for educational subventions, and they predict, by the way, that this may lead to the fact that from next year there will be huge problems with the payment of salaries for teachers or teachers became unimportant during the war, everything is fine, first of all, history saves on them. there is a p in everything yaroslav and they are in everything and we are now constantly as our committee analyzing

the bill submitted by the cabinet of ministers, the cabinet of ministers actually drags the functions of er and well, for example, on the fund on the recovery fund and that is, the definition of objects and the search for contractors, well, that is, it turns out that the situation is as follows, and the body uncontrollably closes a huge number of functions on itself, and in fact, well , there was a very long discussion about not only under this law or many laws, where the cabinet of ministers it requires additional er powers a-a without any real control mechanisms, well, that is, we have two control mechanisms left, this is conventionally speaking our deputy control, but a-a but access er is not always available er, we do not always have time in advance to analyze the information and very often then the struggle with the consequences enters, as it

is now in petrovsky region, so that is, law enforcement agencies begin to investigate abuses so that there are no abuses, of course , the functions of the customer are needed to be separated from the functions of the one who determines what and how to do otherwise, of course hm to determine for your enterprises from your customers, well, this is already a very common phenomenon because ah-ah actually, centralization during martial law well, it is very often, logically, we need to make operational decisions, but it is not always expedient especially there, in fact, in those areas, hmm, considering that not the entire territory, thank god, is in frontov or under frontov, and we see that the authorities are abusing it again , unfortunately, with excessive centralization even where it is not appropriate, that is, really in

the territories which are not under such dense fire, they are close to understanding the demarcation and the line of military operations, and in principle it is advisable to maximally return the powers of the local authority to strengthen the regional level of authority, even partially it depends entirely on the office of the president. but we cannot, under the guise of war, actually create such an easy version of a centralized state of a totalitarian scale of weapons research. and i will think about where to give them and how and through whom. especially since everyone has fitness coaches who are acquaintances and so on. thank you. thank you very much. oksana savchuk and yaroslav yurchyshyn. people's elected representatives were in touch with us. well, on this note, we will finish our part with andrii. we will pass the floor to iryna koval .