tv [untitled] November 4, 2022 10:00pm-10:31pm EET
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uh, because vitaliy understands israeli affairs better than me. and i'm asking a very simple question. on the one hand, everyone says that there is a special relationship between mr. ne tanyakhov and mr. putin . syria and the situation with iran and such an ardent friendship between iran and moscow between the tiger moscow can reduce this and this is putin's love and not that, tell me what you think about it, well, look, we really have high hopes for this because uh, really uh actual changes in in the last few weeks, they have been felt precisely in connection with the fact that iran actively began to cooperate with russia and on a completely different level, that is, the fact that drones appeared
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in ukraine, the fact that it is known about the contracts for the supply of ballistic missiles, the fact that and once it threatens not only ukraine, well, actually entering the war and supplying russia with weapons, it is a mass impression, but also saudi arabia, which caused an ambiguous reaction in israel. that is, the number, well, quite a large number of citizens who believed that in ukraine only humanitarian aid is enough and we will not get involved in military cooperation, it has significantly decreased and the first steps regarding military-technical cooperation have already been taken , as it were. notification er hmm during an er alarm that
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will allow citizens to be provided with information about the time they have to get to the bomb shelters , or the time of arrival of rockets or drones and i i think that this is the first step, of course, israel is interested in the non-public work and we will take this feature into account, but it is important to me that our eight-month efforts to deepen our military-technical cooperation have finally finally finally finally found some kind of realization in life. tell me, mr. yevgeny after all, this story with iran, to what extent could it influence the establishment that is coming to
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power in israel today, because on the one hand, on the one hand, by trying this way, there will be more cooperation on the other side, this is another signal of how much moscow can influence its allies on syria, it will hurt if something quarrels with moscow in this situation, when moscow is essentially testing iranian weapons in ukraine, which may end up in this human arabia tomorrow. they can stop it from ending up in israel. in israel, they treat these reports, is it possible to start a war at any moment? it is very similar to what happened in ukraine, when they reported, they reported , and then the war was reported, did you learn that, in fact, two factors influenced israel's position i mean now the governments of israel, do you know that the elections were held last tuesday, which was november 1st, and the results have not even been officially announced
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. will also affect the further actions of the government, but to date the situation remains the same, and the fact is that two factors have influenced the change in this position : firstly, the factor is definitely the deepening of russia's cooperation with russia, and secondly, this factor the actual elections and the factor that the war in ukraine had a significant impact on public opinion, even though we were warned by political scientists and political technologists that everything would have no effect, in fact it did not happen that way, well, that is why, on the eve of the elections, all the key political forces expressed their support for ukraine in this after all, more than 80% of israelis support ukraine regardless of whether they are russian-speaking or hebrew
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- speaking. during the election race, it is difficult to say what this process will turn out to be in practice, but i hope that it will be positive for us, yevgeny, one more such question in general, a general political one no, not today, but in principle, these jewish religious parties are in a simple situation, without war, without russia, without russia, without russia’s war against ukraine, i would strongly suggest that they consider ukrainians or russians more or less semites, let’s listen we argue about which of us is more auto-summit, in fact,
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the issue of anti-semitism has largely fallen off the agenda since the beginning of the war, and thank god, on the contrary, we draw the attention of the israeli community and citizens to how many jewish communities and people have suffered during this war, because one of the arguments of the israeli government why they don't supply us with weapons is always because we are worried about the large jewish community in russia that it will suffer oppression from the authorities and we say look at how many of our ukrainian jews suffered already during this war, how many people lost their lives, how many lost their relatives, how many lost their homes, and how much worse ukrainian jews are. i'm sorry about the russian jews, the issue of auto-semitism
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is nothing to them. the actions of the russian government, among other traitors, the head of the national security council of the russian federation, who recently spoke out for the fact that bribery is an enemy organization, and if there are enough signs of satanism, then it is pure intensimitism in its worst form is and strictly speaking, this person has not suffered any punishment, she continues to work, as far as i know, not in her position, that is, yes, the question does not arise , thank god, and this makes me happy, as ambassadors, we do not have to make excuses lately for the tissimitism of which in fact, we do not actually exist. well, starting from the president and our dear jewish communities throughout ukraine, it will suit any rabbi in the dnipro, in kharkiv, in odesa, in kyiv, they will tell you how the jewish community cooperates with the ukrainian and actively resists
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the enemy. during this war, we are not divided. we are proud of the fact that we have many nationalities, a country where the rights of all are respected. well, of course, this reaction in israel to ukraine's vote in the un general assembly regarding the resolution on israel 's nuclear weapons armament of israel, it was painful. it was published even about the reactions in social networks. by the way, both in russian-speaking and rhythmic ones, and all that i read was such an obvious disappointment that as ukraine, which itself realized that it's like giving away nuclear weapons and then finding yourself in a situation where the country is simply being destroyed before the eyes of its inhabitants. i just see the rockets that are destroying their infrastructure and there is little they can do about it . vitaly, in fact, i am deep in this topic. and the fact that it caused
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great indignation in the public. i saw it personally and there were many complaints against me, again directly. although how do you understand as the ambassador in israel as a relation the un has a lot to do with voting. but i think that this question was used during the election process in order to draw votes from the left to the right, and it was masterfully executed. you saw that this question was also heard in the ukrainian press. spoke on the eve of the vote with our ambassador, mr. kislytsia, he knew about this issue . we are friendly nations and our un delegations should communicate, and in fact this issue could be resolved again in order to quickly, but the ambassador of israel at the un is a political appointment and is being treated, and it was beneficial for him not to communicate with
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our ambassador in order to later raise a scandal, well , it was possible within a few days before the vote, so that we would immediately be addressed constructively. we also have many complaints about israel's vote including, among other things, the fact that they do not always support the wording of the un in the first committee regarding the recognition of russia as a terrorist country, you understand, and we need to communicate, diplomats work for that and work to communicate is in a common language and not to take a position and then show it publicly that ukraine is voting for the anti-israeli revolution, we are a country that survived chernobyl and which is now suffering from russian encroachments have consistently advocated for the nuclear-free status of everything to the world, this does not concern israel. but again, it is precisely in this vote that i am sure that it was possible to find a concert in advance and not wait for us to vote, as ukraine
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has voted for the last 20 years so that everything would be built for us later yevgeny look what is general, again, general political-philosophical questions, we talked about this today and not only today, not only with you, see iran escalation, and saudi arabia, eh, yemen, too, not all is not well, and the attack is the answer to eh, what is hamas again is starting to do something in the gas sector. israel struck the sector for the first time in a short time since august. it seems that there is some kind of general middle eastern aggravation. do you think this is true? century, nothing extraordinary has happened or is happening, listen. i have been working as an
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ambassador for two years and we constantly see that aggravation or weakening, well, this is a permanent process, and i predict that now it will be beneficial when, most likely, right-wing radical and right-wing centrist forces will come to power er, including the ultra -radical orthodox, and the religious ones, this situation will be exacerbated even more often, since they are actually in favor of not giving palestine the right to self-determination and the further elimination of any dialogue during the work of the last government you know that it included eight parties, among which there were arab parties, and for the first time in the history of israel, it was the arab communities
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that were allocated huge funds from the budget and tried to avoid any disputes, but if i return now to the right-wing and orthodox, you you understand that there will be problems again, this is actually from the palestinian authority with the arab minority in israel as a whole. this is a completely normal process for the middle east, unfortunately . i remember that he appeared. actually, by his inactivity, the world community makes israel an international global player, if you want, because he is now really interfering not only with israel and its isolation, not only with israel, but with other neighboring arab countries, those countries with which israel
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signed the aurora and all the abrahamic agreements are those with which saudi arabia, for example, is just going to sign, and this strengthens cooperation with israel and neighboring countries, but again, they are right to a certain extent, but in fact this country constantly lives in the situation is of a certain certain concern and is very worried about his personal national security , precisely because of this, it is possible to explain to some extent the reluctance to cooperate with the military-technical cooperation of ukraine in connection with its difficult internal situation. there is indeed a change of government, but it is not so exotic, to put it mildly, let 's say literally what it is, that is, yes, when the fear stopped in my city, it took 15 years, it was no longer exotic and in fact mykola is not more right than the government
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really in israeli history absolutely incredible i would say because this has never happened and no one knows how israel will change with this government because it is not the same government that was headed by him and me before already yesterday, the centrist government, but it was the words of the centrist here, he is right and right-wing, yes, and this is a government that is similar to, you know, the government that came to power in italy, yes, in fact, this government is headed by the ultra-right politics, for which all hopes are right, which even worse than her are introduced with her, and here the other one here is actually a centrist, but he is the most left-wing of all, the most right-wing, but it is interesting that the last statement is made in the comments, it is interesting that we looked at it, he says that he will not allow any changes in the status quo in relation to the right -e lgbt in israel so what does it mean his partners just want it to change and this means that there will be a conflict already here so and what not, how will by and large in
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this government be the main defender of the rights of witnesses with stigmas why because if he is not will be like this in turn, this is the president to serious social problems in the country, that’s what he asked who anti-semitism is considered anti-semitic, religious israeli parties, absolutely everything is the same for them, they do not see any difference between russians, ukrainians, poles or belarusian children, they simply do not, they do not divide because they are people of the christian faith, they are jews well yes, but they consider the biggest anti- semites in the world to be the residents of the city of lviv, who walk because they just walk. in general, they look like anti-semites, yes, this is the main problem of israel. it is not at all whether it is possible to separate russians from ukrainians from the point of view of the history of anti-semitism, this is the history of anti-semitism - this is one thing, but the history of relations between languages and israelis is something completely different here valery chalin of course of
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course it is from the middle east to somewhere else, i would ask the first question about america p valeriya good health thank you for finding the time, after all, you were the ambassador and for us, uh, ask a question about israel no no no no don't say then the second the first question is about america. the second is coming. he wants to finish the topic of israel. let him finish. well, we will be free here to do a free microphone, but now we have elections in america in a week. israel is talking about america . to portnikov, here's to him. give her to the state. i'm just loyal to the people, and you're an authoritarian person. let's hope that this is not a national quality. that discussion, which way ukraine was, what i see in him, a smile appeared on mr. kovalchuk's face. so, we have the possibilities for
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pragmatic decisions. in fact, i think that we have really taken some steps and the oun towards israel, well , that was before, israel i may not have taken such steps, but in this resolution we have taken enough steps, let's say traditionally, there could have been a more proactive position here, and we now need from israel. actually, what i wanted to say was very quick steps of military-technical cooperation, well that ideally, or because of what has already been done, israel has lifted the ban on the supply of some systems to estonia. well, i am saying what was only heard in the media, and we also know very well since last year that israel has a good anti-drone system against these veran drones, which can even to be used on ordinary planes er small planes this is a new technology and it would be very good to cooperate now very quickly specifically on er iran,
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well, that is, we have a common enemy, did they actually vote in the un or not and is it really israeli, the ambassador is i had to go to ours and convince you to vote. i would have done it differently. i would have hinted that we are ready to transfer part of our representation from tel aviv to the virus, and this would be a very powerful step. yes, here. why not just like that, but in coordination in specific coordination ? work in other important directions for us, that is, i would lead this discussion on a specific resolution, which is really an annual one. it is really not about israel, although you cannot turn a blind eye to it, it is important for israel and well, the most we could do is to withdraw from the vote, but open up the issue of non-proliferation of nuclear weapons for ukraine was also not comilfo, that is, it was necessary to change the discussion from not to wait for someone there for us in the public sphere to spin everything, but
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to raise in the public sphere completely different questions of interaction, uh, just ukraine-israel. i think that we are opening a page that we had. by the way, with the premiere on money and it was successful, there was such a pause for about two years, maybe more in these relations, and not only because they constantly changed there in israel, but also from our side we somehow the near east was looked at in a strange way through oman through oman through which you, well, through countries where you can do something with money there. but i will tell you honestly, i don't see. who can tell me which arab country has helped us this year? well, i've been there for almost a year. i think saudi arabia was an intermediary with the prisoners. yes, but they decided for the americans, which arab country of the middle east did something specific for ukraine, that's why we are not talking about
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israel, we are talking about the region. that is, we have to find a solution there. and now you read and ask the key issue for me is not the domestic policy of the united states, but now everyone is talking about the domestic policy, there are a lot of articles in ukraine, and who is there, what is right , wrong, trumpist, trumpist . between china and the united states, and i am interested in how the united states will really be able to neutralize, in the middle east , all these iranian attempts to threaten and strike saudi arabia, because for us it will be very the bad thing is that oil then sharply rises in price , it is very profitable for putin, that is, there is a complex of
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political issues that affect ukraine. if we talk about domestic issues, i will briefly say good results, at least public statements after the visit of the us national security adviser jake sullivan, uh, there were statements today what is the agreed position of ukraine and the united states? what is a victory for ukraine and what is your opinion of the victory of the united states and what i heard publicly inspires me because it says the de-occupation of the entire ukrainian territory, the entire crimea donbass is completely donetsk, luhansk region, the second is the establishment of such a regime so that there is no further threat to russia. although i see this mechanism as only joining nato, they are now talking about some kind of security guarantee. but this is already the next step of the discussion. that is how to throw out russia the shapeshifter
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, that is, it is very open about kherson, so to be honest , on the one hand, she was a little alarmed by this visit, and she also said, well, i know his views, if they have changed like that, uh, that's great. i'm very, very they have already changed, yes, but the question is different, after all, now everyone is talking about it, and i'm standing in line here. i think i'm not the first, some 121st, to what extent can the elections be slowed down by these rather fruitful contacts between washington and kiev and prevent biden from pursuing his policy, how serious is it? is this such a balance that if it slows it down, it is not so much. the paradox is that there was very little trust at the initial stage of contacts between kyiv and washington. unfortunately,
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many steps were taken on our part. in the first place which somewhat undermined this trust. but the russian invasion changed everything because the united states does not meet because they like someone, because their national interests coincided with ours, and as long as they are like this, russia has no chance , and i hope that today's visit will be everything to continue with regard to the congress. in short, there are risks. of course there are risks. i believe that there are risks in providing ukraine with this monthly financial aid of 1.5 billion dollars. how can we practically not balance the budget without it? the deficit of the interest budget for the next year. well, i want the ministry of finance and the government to reduce it, but for now. yes, that is, without this help from
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the states plus the european union, these basic funds, we will not, well, pay salaries, pensions, that is, for us, this is a vital necessity, therefore, with financial there will be problems here because they will seriously increase control over finance, the receipt of funds will now be under a microscope and it will be more difficult to pass through the congress well, if we proceed from those statements that were made in the election campaign and not only the extreme right in america, but the extreme league is also the same situation with regard to military aid, i don't see any risks. they are already so big until the end of the year, no risks, well, they just announced the second package in a week, in fact 250, now 400, and there are correct , very correct, there are means for our offensive on the right bank of ukraine, and no one hides it anymore, he speaks quite openly, but we will see what will happen after the first of january, we will see there is an option for joseph
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biden's forest, it is a little more difficult because there we will still have to give some of our resources sooner or later, it is desirable that our government now somehow formulates its draft agreement, not waiting for what only washington will offer. well, after all, it is necessary to conduct some kind of projective policy and talk seriously about what the content of this document will be without this international agreement, there will be no progress in the public sphere i have not yet heard that our side is ready to sign an agreement, he is the only one about money. i apologize for a very important question. biden has 50 billion there somewhere, and there is a chance that by the new year, these two months, when the new composition of the parliament will work, will be the old ones. with the composition of about 50, somehow give ukraine or at least promise ukraine or put them somewhere where
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ukraine can take them, how likely is it , how likely is it that the old composition of the u.s. parliament will have time to overcome all these, as the russians say, roughness, overcome there is no 50 for ukraine, there is seven billion plus 12 is the maximum, but when you say vi-50, there is no misunderstanding here, why the republicans don't want, not everyone supported these 50, that's where the democrats are. this is possible, it was not about ukraine, it was simply about expenses, and in principle, the republicans did not vote, that is why some did not vote. well, because they do not support ukraine, but some of these funds are actually still piled up, that is, those that have already been approved, they will not disappear anywhere, even if they are not they will be used now. i think that they will be transferred there further, but they will be used more than that. i think that in
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december there will be a vote in the congress as a result to allocate additional funds for ukraine in order to use them in the next month, that is, i see such big risks here. i see the risks if we, on our part, make mistakes in domestic policy because, in principle, the partners will insist more and more on the transparency of actions, on the fact that we are preparing the country not only for victory, and that it will be a new country or will it be reformed by the security service of ukraine it will be reformed by law-enforcement structures , it will be freed from such already great corruption, that is, there will be much less, and well, it has become much less, objectively this is true, but we must show that we are reaching the level of e countries europeans, at least those who have already joined the eu , and in this regard, the challenges for us are that we have
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to convince the taxpayers in the usa that we are a different country, we will already be a different country, we are an ally of the united states. we are a very important country. well, what can i tell you? constantly, and we will convince in some newspapers an interview in california, but i talked, uh, well, they say that everyone perceives the country equally, but polikalam from some previous time yes. that is, we still need to fight there seriously in order to get support 60% of voters support now, but half a year ago it was 80, you know, politicians respond to us three voters ago, there are challenges well, i would say not risks, but even such challenges that we have to work with and don't say that this one, i'm sorry, that congressman is a moron and that one is a jerk like me excuse me for these words. well, i hear it on television sometimes because he doesn't say that ukraine is above all else. well, because this is
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america, that's good. we promise, at least from myself, not to call american newspapers and senators morons, but you started with that. i love to finish where they started after all, china, the usa, the bidens-zinpin, what can be said, how much influence can biden have on everyone, calling for him to make a hai-hai-hai to putin with a pen or at least somehow hinted to putin like that because i think that putin is his listens because he is a big uncle and putin is a little uncle already i would first positively uh and thank scholz for the visit to china and for his conversation and the fact that after this visit china said that it absolutely does not accept uh threats there and the use of nuclear weapons in this context if biden managed to have a common goal
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