it's the same mother who publishes the textbooks that the son uses or doesn't use, but i know from family conversations that mr. igor is the teacher who thinks that a good teacher doesn't need a textbook, they don't need textbooks yet, it's really children now, the cover is the color of a rag i remember myself in the eighth grade, what a baroque, what kind of flags igor contradicts the mother of his friends. there may be various problems. if we need textbooks, we are already here, in principle, we say that the textbook is still a state topic oh oh tutorial the state before the textbooks there are certain requirements of the state's requirements, i have this thesis, there is such a very good saying, i heard it from hrytsak, yaroslav hrytsyk, a famous

historian, so a good historian is always an enemy of his state, because the state needs myths , a mission of a good historian - these are myths to debunk and teach critical thinking as ordinary patriots of our country. we want victories and then make them a myth. well, you can, but something like this almost never happens in the real world. if we take a textbook on the history of france, this is a mythologized history of france . if we take a textbook on the history of spain - this is a mythologized history of spain. if we take a textbook on the history of ukraine - this is a mythologized history of ukraine, let's just say that it is already something that is much better suited to our state interests by providing moments. where did we start, now is a time of great trials, but it gives great opportunities, the world is so black and white and the situation is so difficult that we

can afford to solve a few of old debates if you think that there are too many myths in our history textbooks, something should be radically changed or not well, where does the textbook come from the program, well, that is, everything is in the work, the publisher is a hostage to the essence of the situation, maybe the publisher would like something else, maybe the publisher would like to the text was larger , there were more pictures, they were bright diagrams and so on, but if in the program of the eighth on the stove for an incredible amount of cargo, then the publishing house has no right to throw away any of it teacher yes, there is such a well-known thesis that well, the minister of education doesn't go to class in correspondence with me. and i can operate more freely there. well , teachers and the cabinet of ministers are included in the publishing house and they check them and they have to meet all these standards, that is, i it seems that here, er, we need to start the reform with a very reminiscent of the story when

we were on the air, we discussed with businesses their needs in the conditions of war, and a wonderful discussion arose when a businessman speaks, the government takes an incredible number of necessary actions, decisions on important, but they are not needed by business , business needs completely different things now, and the state really wants to take care of business and it does so much , but there is no practical sense in this , that is, there is a certain gap here, there is a need for teachers who look into the eyes of students and understand them necessary well, i remember the most vivid moment in my memory a ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- from the history lesson was from school when the teacher told how the negotiations in the crimea during the second world war took place and he, as the main characters, walked around in the cabinet, stalin imitated churchill's nato and talked about these i don't remember the details of his story anymore, but i, first of all, but i remember how it was

, we all sat and watched him, like an actor , portraying one or another and putting meanings into it a what were the consequences of these lyvedian victories? there is a very interesting possibility, because the directors tell me that they are in contact with ihor shchupak, a well-known historian, and the author of many textbooks on history and the author of the changes in the program with the stories that are happening now, the programs of the stories have changed many times, but that's it literally a month or so ago a-a passed a-a review conceptual review of history programs that are currently working in our schools and mr. igor took part in this process directly and well alone. congratulations. thank you for contacting us just from the train. as i

see it, you heard part of our discussion. the language is a bit unusual . the language may be interrupted for a moment. i apologize. everything is fine. thank you very much for joining in. you heard part of our discussion. we have come to the point that is the needs of history teachers who see the needs of children and there is such a collective face of the state that takes care of making a high-quality textbook, this chasm exists and is being overcome between practitioners and theoreticians well, in fact, it seems to me that the state strives for the formation of a ukrainian political nation, for the establishment of the ukrainian national historical memory and i am extremely important for this, programs change and you know when they say why rewrite history , any science is rewritten because physics is not as it was 10 or 20 years ago, chemistry is other sciences and even more so it concerns history, right

now the ministry of education and science of ukraine organized a working group headed by professor lyudmyla hrynevych and the foundations of existing state programs and those in these programs were qualitatively revised firstly, the achievements of modern scientific methodology are taken into account, and secondly, here i will introduce what kind of peoples they see, just now, children who study according to modern western standards came in. what was needed was an understanding of what ukraine was and who it was in soviet times, whether it was a dependent territory or a colony. what the soviet union was and what it was. russia remains as an empire and a state where there is a rashit regime, a variant of a fascist regime , and there are many questions that they needed to be clarified by

scientists, and they needed to be updated. well, of course, we are introducing new topics related to the russian-ukrainian war and the ideology of the russian world, and by the way, maybe you paid attention . i'm not saying soviet, i'm saying soviet. these new things that we are introducing for that, it was clear that the soviets are connected with the soviets and it tried to connect the soviet er and existence with what was there before, the cossack council, the central rada, so that there was some association, in fact there were no councils , there were soviets and that's what they said, and it's good to hear , you can clarify, that is, so that we understand correctly, it will be a direct change of terms in the textbooks . in certain cases, instead of soviet, sovetsky, yes , first of all, the programs are new, they have already been implemented,

they have been published, uh, they are and uh - there are a lot of and additional material about important dates and terms, of course. and what is genocide and, uh, clarification of what is lendlis during the second world war and now, and definitely soviet, although it goes through flash, soviet, soviet, we just make it easier for teachers to understand what it is about ah, and in fact, the question of terminology is very important, because they used to say there, uh, industrial revolution. yes, but everywhere in the world they know it and you will give it indifference. it’s just that in the soviet union they didn’t talk about revolutions, there would have been one more revolution. vyska, although in fact, again, it was a revolution, and no one said a coup, but we

understood the essence, are there really drastic changes, mr. igor, we are very grateful to you, thank you very much , that you were able to join, join, we will be back in touch, we also wanted to talk about russian textbooks. i think that the directors have now given ee in the program, should you pay attention to this textbook of the fifth grade, which is for the new ukrainian school, this is the textbook of this year and the subject is called introduction to the history of ukraine and civic education. that is we start uh well, in principle, from the first grade, because there is also a subject, i explore the world where there is both nature and history ah and civil society, but we start teaching the history of ukraine ah together with civic education, these are interconnected things and we now understand it very, very well. can i ask you another question? i see a lot of interesting covers. again, so far we are reacting to the covers yes, but they are still

smooth. well, anyway, about the covers, because you know, we actually start from the west there, and i know that on there is a lot circulating in the ukrainian educational market of different textbooks, i heard that teachers have the opportunity to choose which textbooks they will use to teach, this is how it happens, there is, let's say, some kind of gradation, some rating, some special recommendations. i don't know the experts of the ministry of parents, experts of parents' councils , so it would be better if this textbook were more interesting there well , you know, they say that one of the main reforms that was successful in ukraine is the external examination, so here it is, one of those reforms and innovations that have been in operation for 10 years - this is a textbook competition for younger and high school textbook competition with various

variations, but it takes place in such a way that the first stage is an expert council that ah and analyzes textbooks from the point of view of methodology from the point of view of science, but now it is still anti-discriminatory very ah such a weighty examination was added to the thing about the textbook the polish er publishing house can't stand er as long as there is a connection with him, i want to talk to him, mr. igor, you can hear us, yes, yes, i want to ask about the textbooks that the russians take to the occupied territory, we know what you are up to received these kits, i would like to hear your expert assessment. what are the russians trying to introduce there? what interested you in these tools of war? let's talk frankly

. of canadian volunteers to deliver cars for the front, including for my friends , for yegor vradiy, who is in the kherson direction, for yaroslav yaroshenko, who is in kharkiv, and yaroslav told me to listen and to you, i thank you, i give a trophy and a trophy. these are russian books, which means a whole bunch. that is, there are about 20 books for all classes, all parallels, a few parts in general . as far as i know, about four million textbooks were imported into the temporarily occupied territory of ukraine, and those textbooks introduce the ideas of the russian world, they introduce imperial thinking and they are a real ideological weapon they are a real poison and they are carriers of the soviet modern russian imperial ideology so that i don't take it so that i don't open well i'll be honest i'm just in shock here

i open the textbook, it means a full spread of lenin's quotes, it means the work of the prologue about the concession and so on. of course, there is not a single word about the uh, famine that was connected. so these are the phenomena. i open a page dedicated to stalin, look at the whole page - it's a biographical reference about stalin well what do you think, what crimes are listed here, do you mean mass repressions, the great terror of 38 or the holodomor of 33 or what happened during the second world war, here is only his biography information and when he was i was the head of the council of ministers when i was reading in the supreme commander-in-chief, and it concludes that stalin was a generalist, and this is not the only

issue. special military operations and it turns out that the operation in ukraine that was announced this terrible er war with genocidal phenomena er there were special military operations before because what the russians did to the syrians was a special military operation and in general what is characteristic of for example, of course, i am preparing a social project and the institute of modernization of the content of education

. this is a presentation of historical events in such a way that the empire is always right. the soviet union had the right to do what it did. there are sparks with the baltic countries, and there are very interesting analogies, for example, when it comes to the soviet-five war, which you remember. the soviet union was excluded from the league of nations . well, it says that the soviet union offered finland to move its borders away from leningrad and instead receive some other territory in karelia. well, i explain this to the children as if i know the united states they said let's give us the territories near toronto and we will give you something in alaska or beyond the arctic circle, that's how it is written in the russian textbook. it means that finland gave up on this point, the

soviet firska war began, the prices for could resist if it were not for the help of the west, the soviet union would have understood how harmful and dangerous a weapon the same russian textbooks that were brought to ukraine are effectively used by the russians. please tell me if the design of this textbook is important to you, we have already seen beautiful covers, but it is not only about the covers, but also about the fact that the saturation inside is somehow possible illustrative materials, shorter texts, emotional stories in a paragraph, stories from your point of view, they are necessary, important, absolutely right, you are absolutely right, irina korsunska and i are also with a team of authors, including olena burlaka, iryna

piskaryova and serhiy, well, by the way, many, many other friends we have a few dozen people in the author's team, we will write textbooks, we will create them, first of all, illustrations are not something that simply displays some material. they have a meaningful character, there are questions about them they are a problematic task, they do not just illustrate , they carry information because modern children have a mindset and we must rely on it, we cannot ignore it, and of course our textbooks are multimedia because in each paragraph we have 2 3 5 qr-codes through which you can to see fragments of a feature film or a historical film or a documentary or some task, the russian market can show it to you, of course, it is very important that the textbooks

are action-oriented because only when the child can do something, act, perform a task, that means there is feedback, only then it is interesting and only then the child learns something, and i am very pleased if one of my colleagues complained that in physics or chemistry lessons, children make up a story or simply watch a video in order to complete this it is obvious that we do not win in such a competitive struggle, but if everything else is written as the most important thing, because here we are around, he started with this. how to interest children, how not to create textbooks for parents, teachers ministries, namely how to make children interested. your textbooks are great. we are currently considering huge ones. when the opportunity arises, i would like to invite you and your trophies to our broadcast of the marathon. we

will gladly discuss this story live, please. if there is an opportunity, we will be happy to see you on the air, and we will discuss this topic. in more detail, thank you, thank you, thank you, and i still wanted to come back , we have wonderful textbooks, and parents are very interested, of course, in making sure that children have the most fun, i won't be there to criticize this and that the textbooks that my son is currently studying, but he understands that there are other options, how are they chosen ? in order for the textbooks to be printed for the next year, at a certain point the education department will contact the school to use a special program to enter the data on the choice of textbooks made by teachers from our school

, and the teachers must meet at this meeting schools can vote on which of the listed textbooks they would like to order, we transfer this data to the management department, it collects everything and , er, um , i transfer it to the ministry. be such that you chose one textbook, another textbook came, as it happens to me, especially if you choose the wrong one which there is less choice, but in most subjects it is and it is quite good, and there you can set priorities, that is, for example, we would really like this one, but if not this one, then this one and if it is already quite further, then the third well, the ministry of publishing will receive this information about voting in pedagogical groups this i just stopped at the fact that after the examination, the second stage of the competition takes place. this is the choice of the

teachers. that is, the textbooks are also taught . modernization of the content of education in the electronic library, and everyone can go there and look at the textbooks, leave feedback, wishes, and further find their way around which textbook they choose . ah, and all of them, they all have nothing, they are wonderful changes, it’s not so beautiful and everything is not so simple, but because there is a state order, that is, the state allocates money for those textbooks that won the competition, but this state order is completely from

40,000 clicks, that is, when people vote for a textbook, they put the number of children in their class who need these textbooks, and as a result, if the textbook received more than 40,000 likes, then ideally we should receive a fully state order for a textbook, if it is from 10 to 40,000, then this is a partial state order, part of which is financed by the publishing house and part of which is financed by the state, but here there is such an idea, well, such a collision that textbooks are new. there are three uh well, let's say this is the sponsor of conservatism lobbying of these or other candidates knows well in this

textbook it is perceived in a negative context for some reason it is in the world in the united states the lobbying institute is also a church i am a teacher yes i already know everything well why relearn no no no i won't relearn, i 'll take this textbook. well, i think it's a brilliant textbook on the ukrainian language, and ms. oksana danylevska is a doctor of philological sciences, but a person who, well, it's simple, and every hmm, every paragraph here is a dash between subjects and a predicate starts with this game play the game happiness is offer a definition of the concept of happiness continuing the sentence happiness dash this and three dots this dash between subjects predicate well, by the way, i liked the cover the most on camera who saw this textbook as it is, that is, any page

can be opened and here everyone begins with such a language game. but it is clear that here too uh, well, what are the manifestations of happiness? they remembered why the definitions are such stanzas, and then there is already such a philological sentence, which sentences were used according to the structure of the sentences formulating our definitions of happiness do we often use similar sentences in the place of which component of the nominative compound predicate do we put a dash in the sentences well, that is, here life is in the form through the game through the game through life, that is, we study it well there is no subject history separately does not exist no subject the ukrainian language does not there is and somehow to sum it up, i’ll just say that this textbook, which i think is brilliant for teachers’ elections, well, it was chosen for 3,000 and it wasn’t

even published. it couldn’t have been published not for to which we issued our e-e, that is, he lost to the teacher, because the teachers say so, according to this textbook, i have to prepare all the time, there are no ready-made answers. this is a huge question, should there be ready-made answers to the questions that are in the textbook, this is a philosophical question, after which we can go to the topic how does the state already support teachers, what are the salaries, for some reason, for history textbooks and for the possibility of studying history, and one more point that we talked about before the broadcast, that this is not only a matter for our children. yes, of course, for the new generation, but through children, historical education can also take place for the older generations, tell us, we have to finish it, so let's summarize our discussion somehow, remember who controls history

, controls the world, the norm of utopia, and i think that we need to do history persuasive in order for it to be known throughout the world as we want it to be true, this is important and the main thing is that all ukrainians understood that history can be a weapon in the hands of the enemy. therefore, we should arm ourselves, arm our children, it is very good that we are discussing this topic we discuss them, and thanks to our publishers and teachers, and here is an incredible historian, his shchupak , who impressed me with such a simple, simple story about how it should be done. ukraine is showing the whole world, of course, we can already see it, it arouses the interest and desire of the whole world to study our history in more detail, and a huge thank you to our defenders who are creating this latest history for the fact that we have something to be proud of and we thank the teachers who did not stay in the occupied

territories and did not start teaching from those books that we are exclusively in the night watch today. and what we have as trophies, i would even say that the teachers teach children remotely. and based on these textbooks, we conduct broadcasts, we conduct webinars, they call them small partisans thank you very much to these children for these and they study from these textbooks, and mom or grandmother walk around so that no one from the neighbors, they are serious because it is a serious risk and a low bow seven relatives school child primary school a-a studies with these textbooks , four textbooks have passed, and just with those teachers yes, thank you very much for iryna and igor krasunsky, eh, natalia ostrovska, alla mazur is in the goblin night watch. see you on the air. thank you to everyone who was with us, tell me honestly how can you

complain? some extreme situations bother me. i don't have any such feeling . maybe it's preservation. i imagine such a bubble around the house and nothing will fly here for sure. next time, try again, choose a small calming amulet, something to climb. in the palm of your hand, it can be some special stone , button or ring, something that evokes pleasant memories and feelings, it is good that this thing is always at hand when you feel negative, take the amulet in the palm of your hand and concentrate on the feelings it causes, write two thoughts, shape, color, weight, it should

stabilize you add this technique to your self-help first aid kit more here in the morning for work you smile at your neighbor the neighbor will thank the barista for his coffee with a nice tip and she will buy them a warm scarf and part of the money will go to the bumper car or a fairy tale to another of your neighbors, every day of ours, every step, every deed can protect those who protect us thanks to you, our dear defenders and defenders, we smile at each other in the morning, thank you border of freedom, border of dignity, border of humanity, border

of indomitability, border of victories, state border service of ukraine, primacy of honor , rules of a warm country this winter, not a single house is safe from the edge, the state and cities are doing everything possible to give the cheerful people warmth, it is our job to keep it, unite with the neighbors, insulate your house and your apartment, check the electrical wiring, take care about alternative means of heating, to draw up an action plan in an extreme situation, to help each other, we will overcome the winter together