what did i say, i said how beautiful a man i am, like a super person, like just a hero, who gives his whole soul to do such good deeds. i said, you know, the classic of soviet drama, but it seems that he is wrong . stanislavsky, i don't believe that by chance, he ended up a little bit in this plot, and everything is not an attempt, for example, by his friends to whitewash him now in this story, when he was already released on bail and so on. it will help i have um, i don't know there. it's great, not great, but none the less, an example of the head of the national bank of ukraine , kirill shevchenko, everyone knew that we were dealing with him. and i will say sincerely, as a person who deals with the economy during the war, the best who worked in the preparation and the first days then, well, their function. it

was the national bank, well done, and well, kirill also contributed to many issues there to make it happen. they must be heroes. no, they are really well done. thanks to them of the national banking system, we are working with many problems , we have not even heard of what could happen, or does this mean , by the way, that they sometimes said no, for example, at the request of the president, and they were printed and the transfer of servers well, there are many, well, listen , now people have received the nobel prize for economics ukrainians, but the topic was precisely how important the banking system was during the crisis. nevertheless, there was a matter of his appointment as the head of the national bank, and this matter took its course, and i think that is enough a clear signal for the entire political elite, yes. and if you can call the system like that, it doesn’t matter. what

you do during the war is not important. what is your merit? well, in the case of kirill, well, really, they have nothing to be proud of, but in any case, the inevitability of punishment that is why it is called inevitability, because if you violated the law , it should not continue. go to court, protect your pure dignity, i do not rule out that for all colleagues , including memory, there will be inevitability of punishment in one way or another. thank you, mr. yaroslav yaroslav zheleznyak, a people's deputy of the next group of the tax committee, was with us because i think that now the russian bots are looking at us and thinking, god , they have a war, we are working there with everything we have left, they are talking about the fight against corruption, including about all kinds of european norms in they are probably broken, like the occupiers, who said why do you make toilets at home, but you have to do them on the street to chase people, why are you wild people, really,

only we are talking about corruption, but they also talk about it on other tv channels about corruption and also voice some uncomfortable questions to those speakers who are present on their airwaves, then you can say that everything is okay in our country, well, now let's talk about how the conflicts with the prime minister, the lack of gas in storage facilities and the default of the state campaign ultimately led to the resignation of yuriy vitryanka, if this ultimately led to him, we don't know. well, but such, including his not very great successes in the position of the head of naftogaz, and what he was remembered for in general for this weak and long tenure of his, for the sake of which they broke the corporate governance, i will remind you, we will recall it in the story, and then we will discuss this situation with an expert you can't step into the same river twice, this is not about the history of the relationship between yury vitrenko and naftogaz in the state company. he came to work four

times, in particular, after the revolution of dignity, he led the legal team that won a brilliant victory over gazprom in the stockholm arbitration in 2020, vitrenko had to leave due to a conflict with the head of the naku, andriy kobolev. however, for a short time already in april 2021, the cabinet of ministers dismissed kobolev contrary to the position of the company's supervisory board and appointed a vitrenko in his place, according to the media, the candidacy was lobbied by president zelenskyi. however, the conflicts continued, but now with prime minister shmigel, the head of naftogaz publicly stated that he had discussed some topics with the head of the government. it is necessary to save up before winter shmygal demanded 19 billion windmills said that 15 would be enough for the government prerequisites what needs to be done in order for ukraine to be able to

to ensure such a high level of e-e gas reserves at the beginning of the heating season, first of all, this means funding from the state budget. but we will not be able to invest in gas reserves at the expense of the e-e company's funds now - 8 billion e dollars, we must understand this, and also yuriy vitrenko i remembered, i will try to agree with the united states on the so-called gas loan list, that is, receiving fuel on credit for two years, the idea remained an idea, and a new conflict arose between the head of the naku and the prime minister over the company's debts stormed to pay them off in the expected period, the government insisted on restructuring, this is the task of nak naftogaz to restructure this debt, the government set such a task, er, twice , they were unable to do it, in the end , ana failed to repay the debts on time, ana restructured, this led to the default of the company, the last straw in relations between nak and the cockpit became the decision of the

head of naftogaz to stop supplying fuel to the state-owned tripoli tpp due to debts, the order was suspended by the government, and vitrenko was fired, and after two days the nak published the final, and two days later the nak published the financial statements for the first half of 2022 for the six months of the war year, the company suffered losses of almost 60 billion uah of nuclear energy security, in particular, with us and the fuels of the analytical complex mrs. victoria good afternoon good afternoon i congratulate you, should we miss yury vitrenko, who left naftogaz yaka the other day i think your position here is that you should not be sad, just as you should not be sad for mr. kobolev, and you

should be sad for any person in general, for the fact that, unfortunately, there is still such a huge state-owned company as naftogaz, depending on the personality and, unfortunately, again yes, the decisions concerning the evaluation of the work of this company, yes , they are made more on a political basis than on a purely economic and financial basis, and to be honest, i generally dreamed at the time that i would not see among the national joint-stock companies the name naftoftogaz of ukraine i want to see individual companies that are now included in this monster, you know , a kind of mimic copy of gazprom where there is a very expensive superstructure and there are many enterprises that are really able to make money that are able to work

in market conditions but still exist created and if i'm not mistaken that the times are far away, this is a structure, however, naftogaz ukraine, which, in my opinion, is absolutely unnecessary for us, for the country and for the oil and gas sector, and directly, after all, we evaluate including some economic gains that is, there is such a thing as the same default of nak naftogaz, in your opinion, was it possible to prevent this default, because you are talking about political things, but this is a political decision, for example, to freeze all tariffs and the question is, if the support was not appointed by breaking arms, legs and chairs the supervisory board has legs with backs. i mean that they could not sit there, and if there was another person there, or even a war, but it was approved by this supervisory board, which is half of them some foreigners and so on dear people, they say that no, we will not agree to such conditions, because there will be a default, well, that is, this is a

political decision. in your opinion, should we blame the weather vane itself? personally, i would probably put a big question mark, because i remember how he convinced all of us , there were 8 convocations of the verkhovna rada that it was necessary to establish market tariffs for gas, gas prices and distribution tariffs, respectively, for everyone, for all consumers, and then when the shmygal government decided to freeze prices after all on gas for population something, i don't remember that he really argued with this and expressed some of his displeasure, on the contrary, i remember that there were probably rhetoric from his side that precisely supported the government's decision to freeze

gas prices for the population. therefore, a person who changes his position depending on where the wind is blowing well, i have a big question mark about consistency and how professional a person actually behaves when it comes to such a sensitive topic but nevertheless, if i have already taken one position, i either defend it or explain it why are you changing it? but again, i remember how he very actively defended the need to raise gas prices for everyone, including the population, first of all. he seems to maybe for koblevo stopped being for a couple of minutes well, i say that i just dream about that time, about that moment when it will happen, i think that the one who dares to do it and the government that dares to

do it will be the government that will really demonstrate our real readiness to fight corruption is not on paper, the law has not been adopted in world presentations, but in concrete actions. i think it will happen . about the fact that now there is nothing stopping the state from buying and removing this superstructure. some polish viewer of ours is giving a compliment to ms. wojtsitsky . what is happening in our country? and tell me, please, about the prices of gas, the prices of energy carriers, are they really

going to remain the same as they are or not ? cataclysms that can actually shake this decision and these cannot go into free swimming, i do not think that the government will review this winter and the prices and tariffs in general because the corresponding statements have already been made and i do not think that the government will review them when we are with you we are talking about critical infrastructure and directly about the energy infrastructure, then we must remember two things, first, everyone must now make efforts to find the equipment that we need, and negotiate with manufacturers with the help of the relevant governments of those countries where the manufacturers are located, i mean germany i i mean the same switzerland, canada, and so on. we need the triangle to be like this: the ukrainian

government, the government, respectively, of the producing country and the private producer, so that they make ukraine the number one priority and that we get the same transformers now and here, and the second issue is the issue of protection directly by our systems of critical infrastructure objects . to discuss again about the ukrainian, what about the aid to ukraine, how far they can come up with some effective solutions, what, first of all, how can they help us on the eve of this difficult winter and we may be shelled. they will definitely be more accurate of political infrastructure objects. why can they help you? the first thing is to quickly conduct negotiations with those manufacturers who have orders from half of europe 18 months in advance. where should they supply the equipment that we

need now? the rammstein countries should undertake to undertake negotiations and take on the additional costs that will arise as a result of the fact that these producers will bear additional fines certain and so on due to the fact that they will delay the supply under the existing contract. that is, it should be priority number one, priority number two should be clearly providing ukraine with all the necessary equipment so that we can deploy heating points for people in the main cities in particular in the event that we no longer have electricity or heat, they will be able to repair it for a certain time while they were there, the infrastructure is damaged, where will they be

located? help us to renew the repair stock for all energy companies, both private and state-owned. by the way, the utility company also has something to repair the damaged infrastructure, because we already see that the main players in this market, unfortunately, have already used all their stocks. therefore, we are very it is important that we be given the necessary payment as soon as possible. i mentioned the priority recently. ukrainians, ukrainians, to prepare for a hard winter before wintering, and i was just trying to understand what the prime minister is thinking about when he makes such calls, what does he think that ukrainians are some kind of people who, in principle, think that somehow it will happen

or does he think that ukrainians should prepare some firewood if they live on the ninth floor, for example, high-rise residents or ukrainians should sew some three-layer sleeping bags for themselves, hunt some bison, how should we prepare? well, i don't know, the mayor of lviv at least promised half to pay the cost of gasoline and diesel generators if a person bought them. well, this is something . before the great tragedy. that's why you still know that the decision was a question mark, how correct it is, what should we do. well, let's be honest, we should have a plan b. for example, in my

case, we moved to live in a village where we bought firewood where we have a well where we can get water with our hands, where we will be able to heat ourselves somehow yes, well, there is no other option, this is the first, the second is that this will be the case for these people who will definitely not have such an opportunity to move somewhere outside the city to the village to their relatives well, then you have to look for your friends you know there , somehow come to an agreement. well, thirdly, the state has to say that you know, if you can't have any plan, we'll help you. we 'll do everything so that you don't freeze, so that you have a safe place to stay for a certain period time, god forbid, there will be no light, no heat, and nothing in your homes, well, you can still live in the village. so when we are talking about high-rise buildings, and

especially when we are talking about families with children, and when the elevators do not work, when there is no electricity , and also electricity - we have not only heaters, but stoves that we use to cook food , this is a difficult situation for shmygal iryna andriivna vyryshchuk, known from the premiere of ukraine, too, skala is original, that's simple if you are abroad now, do n't come back to ukraine so that this does not increase the burden, so to speak, on the housing fund, is gone, do you think about it because for many people who live abroad, it is forced. i know that many of them return because their savings already run out and they cannot find opportunities to earn money abroad where many questions and problems arise, because we are already

dealing with you mainly as women with children, yes , to settle down, find a school so that the child still feels normal there, uh, my personal history is such that bullying even in a kindergarten in poland was such that the children just cried, so you know, there are many nuances, you have to be very careful with such statements that you should stay there, er, here, if you shouldn't go here, this is this, you have to be very careful. thank you, mr. victoria, for the conversation. energy , deputy of the eighth convocation, ex-chairman of the committee of the verkhovna rada of ukraine on nuclear energy security with us, and now let's talk about what happened this week, russia was either withdrawing from the grain agreement, then entering or returning to it means denys marchuk, deputy chairman of the all-ukrainian agrarian council, we are in touch with p. denys. good day to you. good day. what happened?

putin was broken by erdogan because putin changed his mind. of course, they invented a fable about the fact that they finally received guarantees and that's why they are returning to the grain agreement, although before that, he took the risk of waging war . the activity was designed to worsen the situation in the world with the supply of some food, in particular, to the european part, because they must understand that ukraine supplies today not only to the countries of africa, asia, the middle east, but also to the european union, in fact, the cessation of exports from the territory of ukraine led to the fact that food inflation developed even faster. hmm

, practically, if not even there, exports were suspended and the share of presence there decreased by more than 15% - this sharply raised the prices of food products in many countries of the world, and thus through other countries. they are trying to put pressure on the territory of ukraine in order to somehow slow down the progress of the armed forces of ukraine. so that the community of all such situations could find a justification for why it is necessary to sit down for negotiations. ukraine behaves quite strongly. ukraine demonstrates good performance both at the front and in the implementation of grain agreements, therefore, with our partners with whom we signed the agreement with turkey and from the organization of poor nations, we made a decision to continue exporting irrespective of how russia will position itself, russia received a rather serious answer, and the answer they probably did not expect in the context of turkey itself, because turkey said that in fact, if the grain agreement is suspended, they do not exclude the possibility that

they will import grain ships under the flag of turkey and of course under these conditions we can state that most likely some kind of military control would take place and thus russia would simply give birth to our bigger they or she has problems, of course, and this position led to the fact that within a few days we saw, as you correctly noted, such a softened form, which was allegedly invented for yourself, why they return as if they received some written guarantees from the territory of ukraine about not attacking the black sea fleet, but it seems that no one said that we attacked the black sea fleet of russia. therefore, all this is another attempt at pressure and another attempt at food terrorism, which will not succeed at this stage. but we do not stop in the context of that understanding that russia will probably use this weapon more than once, and must understand that in november, after november 19, the first 120 days of operation of the grain corridor will run out and

that they will probably also blackmail with a possible extension with or without prolongation , but in principle in new he acted that he exported to work, she increased after a clear and understandable strong position of both him and turkey, but in fact it can be said that putin er saved retreated. it's easy to use the terms himself, for example, he says it's not a bluff, this time i don't block, but it's known that bluff is used in poker, in particular, for bluffing, it's the best, the best medicine for a bully, well, a person who often blocks is the so-called riereis - this is when a person with a bluff he bluffs and raises the stakes and in response they raise the stakes even more and here the person already has to hide his bad cards, that is to say, ok, then we will sink the ships of turkey. guarantees from zelensky, he did not want to give them.

finally, he sent them, although the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine, by the way, denied that it gave any guarantees, what kind of guarantees, by the way, could they be in your opinion, were they really discussed? well, i am not an expert in international relations what about the political guarantees that can be provided by the state? but it seems to me that if such guarantees were provided, then we would de facto admit that indeed crimea is russian because it is temporarily occupied. we cannot guarantee that and to someone that we will do it on our territory and priora, as far as it seems to me from a diplomatic point of view , to do this is not something that could not be done, and not something that is impossible. corridor, is there still time for this? actually, september and the yellow place have demonstrated quite good and successful figures. during september, we exported 6.9 million, and in october - these figures were already 7 million. this is not only due

to sea routes, it is also those routes that we repeatedly discussed with you on the air, we mean the railway, we mean the roadways and river ports that are going, that is, if the trends are continued, then we can guarantee that in fact, from the autumn time period, we are actually returning to the pre-war time period in terms of exports, because before the war in fact , we exported about seven good months and eight million tons of grain. that's when and what else is this blackmail and the reaction of ankara and in particular and by the way the organization of the united of nations in this story about the fact that when russia declared that it was a part of the grain agreement, they simultaneously declared that they were ready to fully compensate for the supply of grain and even provide it free of charge to african countries that need it the most, such as ethiopia. is this or that, in principle , a tool can be used again by russia.

could it be such an attempt to bribe, for example , the countries of africa itself, and we still need a serious guarantor? it is definitely one of the ways to remain more influenced and supported by the countries of poor countries that they also put pressure on the un, saying that let's somehow stop these wars, let's somehow influence ukraine's position, and because of their principles, we here in african countries are short of food, and russia tells him that we understand your point of view problems, and now we are ready to give 500,000 tons of our harvest, please use it, but for some reason, forgetting this moment, they suspended in the same period in the bosphorus, 176 sodas were transported on which about two million tons of grain were transported, which is a significant part of which also went to african countries , respectively, in such a way that it seems to be giving something here and taking much more here, let's think about it. is it really the ukrainians' offer of russian

food or was it not stolen ukrainian grain ? there, during those 10 months, in fact, more than 500 million dollars worth of ukrainian food and colossal sums were stolen - these are colossal losses that our farmers are temporarily carrying occupied territory, that's why they dispose of it so easily, why can't they give a million, it's not a problem, it's not their own, but it 's possible that it's too early to say. should come and certainly not in such quantities as could come due to the actual theft . and within the framework of the marketing year, the 22-23rd year, and the

marketing year ends in june next year. we have, in principle, the opportunity to sell 45 million tons of grain. and the grain agreement will work clearly and export will work. this depends on the receipt of funds, funds that are very important for use during the sowing company of the 23rd year, that is, if we sell all the time, funds will be received and for these funds, you can buy component materials for the seed company of the 23rd spring. of course, this will speak of a good indicator of the readiness of ukraine as a state to provide itself with food security and guarantee food security for the following countries to which we export, and if there are such fluctuations and the export will be finalized, then it will not work of course, how will we see the situation when the number of e-e workers in the agricultural sector engaged in farming will decrease,

sown areas will decrease, we as a state will decrease we will not maintain foreign exchange earnings without exporting the world as a commodity for a very global food crisis, therefore, in the long run, if we are talking about a lean year, i repeat, i repeat 45 million exports, then we have the opportunity to realize, i will calculate last season, at the expense of export grains, we earned more than 22 billion dollars. that is, it is quite good funds which we need so much today, and for the country, wartime is going on to support the economy. is there already a calculation? surely there are calculations of how many agrarians cannot, er, carry out their work because of the fact that the territories are occupied due to the fact that it is very dangerous and whether they somehow relocate, i don't know in another region of ukraine where it is safer and you can continue your activities, they definitely took place, but these are not relocations that are directly related to agriculture, because the main tool on which they make money money is land, it

cannot be transferred to other regions or to a part of the region. this could be done by small family farms that, for example, engaged in animal husbandry there, but it is easier to transfer animal husbandry than it is clear that the equipment is there. for example, if you have a quiet processor, this happened, but we really have such statistics that as a result of the hostilities and the temporary occupation, there are more than 4,000 enterprises that remain in occupation today, and more than two and a half thousand enterprises that stopped physically work and of course er let's say the longer they stay in this occupation, the less chance they will be able to keep because the situation in the temporary conditional territories it all boils down to to the point that she is simply being robbed financially and kidnapped. and those who do not agree are simply physically and in some places, unfortunately, destroyed, therefore, of course, this counterattack of our armed forces is very necessary, and not only we in ukraine are waiting for her