history has nothing to do with poland, with ukraine, with europe, this is belarus, once again, nowhere in belarus, not with belarus, they are these liars before, maybe they are really calculated on the fact that some radical circles there or in hungary or in romania or in poland they it will be picked up and indeed their agents started to spread this whole uh dezu, but now we understand that even their agency is sitting like uh mice, you understand there uh under the rug we are afraid to stick our nose out why because as soon as someone starts broadcast this narrative that we will now take some the territory of ukraine and they can be imprisoned simply for that. well, look, the defense minister of romania was dismissed in disgrace from his position today for careless formation in relation to ukraine. today, the level of attention to such statements in europe . politicians allow themselves to make irresponsible statements for which they

should be dismissed, but in principle they should write a statement themselves. why, because there is no political responsibility, the voters themselves citizens are not yet so advanced and developed that they choose such lies from politicians, but we still do, i hope that after this war we will be able to say that ukraine is a european state not only in terms of form but also in terms of judges and as for political responsibility, thank you, thank you, taras berezovets , journalists, political scientist, officer of the first separate brigade of special forces named after ivan bohun, or on our broadcast . and we are in touch with the diplomat minister of foreign affairs of ukraine 2014-2019 pavlo klimkin greetings , mr. palyv, greetings, ms. vitalya, greetings to everyone, i can't see the studio because there is no light, the internet is down,

but the voice is great, i can hear everything. well, we can hear mr. klimkin, so now it means i would tell the energy reality that we, unfortunately, do not always see many of our guests, well, this allows us to move on to the first question, and the new package of assistance to ukraine from the united states will allow us to restore energy security in principle in perspective, in fact, it is not about one package, it is not about two packages, it is about comprehensive assistance , it is about not only the generator, it is about the fact that everything we need must be produced in real time, and i really like the attitude of our allies, but we still know that today is not tomorrow by the way, i'm a big fan of the fact that the west now has a key in china and india, and i just said that it's not about

war, it's not about geopolitics, it's putin 's games, it's actually about people, about humanitarian things and about human things, so let's quickly place orders at your factories, it concerns transformers, it concerns equipment, and in this way i would conduct this situation with western aid . i know at least mr. pavel among the new well, in addition to the usual large amount of weapons, which we need, everything from this package, we see that they will provide us with tanks, and about 90 tanks, part of them from the czech republic , and for us, of course, it would be better for abrams, let's talk about it noted, but the 72 will also help us at the

front, in particular, in offensive actions. why do you think that right now the united states decided to provide us with such long-awaited tanks, well, it is absolutely obvious. well, of course, the package is good. we would like even better, both emotionally and politically, and from a military point of view. we wanted, as you said, american tanks and where they operate with a much larger radius, but this is a serious package, this is a package about armored personnel carriers and this is a package of theons that beat russian defense equipment, and this is actually a combination of what we need for defense, but also what we need to attack for offensive operations, and i believe that this is a very clear hint from tavria, an american signal that there are no attempts to enter into any talks with russia about

either yes or yes, and maybe we will agree on something in the middle there 50 on 50 40 on 60 this will not happen and ah russia still has to admit that it lost. this is an absolutely clear signal that the americans did it not just like that. just of course he does not go and i think that he discussed the military situation and the further military strategy and the situation with the elections 8 when there is a usual possibility something public will become more and in the conference in the senate well and of course also the preparation for the g20 therefore it is clear that the agenda was it's not that it's saturated, it's so rich,

it's saturated, as the members sometimes say in english . the fact is that china ideologically supports russia all these eight months precisely from the point of view of this great war, all the time it says that the west is exactly to blame for this war, that it was russia that wanted some kind of security, but during the visit to the people's republic of china, the federal chancellor was fashol - this is clearly shizenping said that he considers a nuclear conflict in eurasia unacceptable. today, i specifically looked at the text in the south china morning post newspaper - this is a hong kong newspaper, which they know is controlled by the chinese administration, and so a window to the world a signal window you can say that and they clearly say that it is the journalists of this newspaper

that this is a clear signal to putin that there can be no use of nuclear weapons from ukraine, that is, these journalists even go further than all dengpin himself, is this a change in policy or is china really afraid, maybe it is the use of nuclear weapons by russia, this and the first and the second. as far as i know, at the meetings with uh, sholtz and uh, at the meetings with german business , the chinese leaders spoke even more directly, that is, they chose the words normally because in chinese tradition, the words are always chosen, but they spoke clearly enough and this is connected with the fundamental interest of china to prevent nuclear proliferation, well, look at all the countries around china, japan says, well, there, in taiwan, of course, vietnam , david, and there is something else they have the intellectual potential to do nuclear weapons, of course, are

financial, well, 100% will find technological ones, and this may mean that there will be not one, not two, but a whole group of nuclear countries around china. this fundamentally changes the whole situation. congratulations and no only safety in general, all the plans of china, and secondly , russia is still important for china, it is a junior partner, it is the most likely to become a vassal of putin , it depends to a large extent, but they understand very well that putin is gradually coming to an end, because his sense of charisma that existed in the non-western world is also catching up end and it is necessary to understand how to bind this russia to itself and as a political period of some possible reboot of carpathian russia, this is actually a difficult issue for china and the last so now we today, we are not only talking about russia, we are talking

about iran, when we surely heard that a couple of days ago, we said that we would release you too, and then he so cautiously and jokingly corrected himself that the iranians would release the belarusians themselves. we have, that is, this war or what to call it and it means the desire to reboot the whole of russia and china has interests not only in russia, china has interests in real long-term ones and in belarus and china perfectly understand this and are facing a fundamental reboot, including its interests, in particular around the gulf. after all, there is most of the oil for the chinese economy , and so far without this oil, china cannot develop at all, therefore, for china, apart from understanding it in general, it is not politics, it is a question of its key strategic,

if you want, critical national interests, how does it understand everyone and tell me that right now the united states is talking so harshly with north korea in the morning, this means that this is how the president of baiting is preparing for the meeting on january 20 and shows that, in principle, the united states is ready to of a tough policy towards those regimes that will cross the red line, this is exactly this, but it is not a signal. the head of the pentagon has a threat of two to north korea that if they use nuclear weapons, it will mean the end of the regime, well, replace north korea with russia here also, in fact, everything will be understood by the meeting of biden and this will be key and it will be determined whether or not it will be enough for a few years. everyone

perfectly understands that he seems to have a strong position . the magical organs of the party, many of his supporters are aleists, but biden will seem to be as he thinks and many chinese, i know this from experts, he is somewhat weakened after the results of the elections in the login. but i think that the americans will not allow this to be played out and it will be a serious strategic conversation. i am absolutely sure of this they don't know how to talk to the chinese, mr. pavla, and yet, for china, the only limit to russia's war against ukraine is nuclear weapons, or military actions themselves, which lead to problems. in the global world economy, why mr. scholtz insisted and argued precisely with this. of course, this is a fundamental problem. look at the overpriced energy carrier. look at the prices of food and let's actually look at chinese history. all the uprisings that were in china. i

do not want to federalize the chinese under any circumstances. for freedom like our maidan, they started with the fact that there was no food or food was too expensive and china understands its history very well, it perfectly understands that the further increase in labor prices for energy itself themselves, but in china now less people are buying now less students are growing there, with something of a percentage, they began to buy such plans together, which , by the way, is a big plus for europe when putin now turned off the screen and was left with absolutely nothing . since the situation is like this, it is canonical and safe but nevertheless, in the future, any war is not profitable for the chinese, they understand very well that in reality, from the point of view, from the mentality, we look like this, you know , so cool, small, very self-confident.

they have a history of relations with vietnam and they very often compare us in this sense and they perfectly understand that vietnam did not succeed in any way it is possible to inflict a no a no on the americans and they have already understood that from this will not happen to ukraine. they know how to read history and read geopolitics. how do you think, in principle, that now the president of turkey, rajapty and partagan, is once again setting conditions for the accession of finland to sweden? it will still end with accession or new conditions, of course, i think that there will be conditions a significant part of them will not be public and there are more conditions. as far as i understand there, in relation to sweden, today the strategy of the authors is to let the broken finland sweden on

a separate mainland finland on the active track sweden, but all nato countries are united in that this will not happen. they should go as a two-in-one duo and that the turks will not be able to do it and it is better if it lasts longer, but solidarity within sweden and finland previously remained maximal and i believe that this is an absolutely correct strategy for at the beginning, hungary was against it, but now they have already submitted documents for ratification to the national assembly . they are specially pulling the cat by the tails, trying to put it like oh, but they will not blow it like that. any finland will not be any faster and

they will not spoil the fundamental relations there either, that is why this is a wound story - this is a story about what on morning, it is critical to present something for the elections that will be held next year, the situation there today is actually not very simple, he needs goats and such things as grain. he trades with finland, sweden, how he trades there, er, the strengthening of opportunities for turkish aircraft that were previously bought from the united states and packages for their modernization, that is, he plays his game, but this game also has its limits, it is perfectly clear to everyone direction thank you very much for your participation stress vitriol pavlo klimkin diplomat minister of foreign affairs of ukraine during 2014-19 was with us the direction of

communication we are moving on to mark feige in russian political and public figure blogger congratulations congratulations ra- address well let's start with er, the congress of the russian position in poland, but i have always understood the congress of the russian position, that is, the situation that we now see in russia. цвет настроеп it was also difficult to imagine that these people will lead russia for not two years, but 75 years. so it can be different. - hotels or cafes can become the people's commissars of defense of foreign affairs, the head of the central bank, the head of the nkvd, and in general they will shoot you precisely for what you

have. you are medically treated, mark, including in italy, you are guaranteed safety at any schedule, at least in the 90s, some people already said that where is the safety, okay, i’ll take my word back, i’ve heard exactly that, seen it, so you don’t need to , don’t guarantee it better, but that’s it for eat well, let's say this is the next request, it will be correct, it will be labeled exactly like this, the next request, yes, we went from the other end, because now it's not just flights. the initiative, and its initiator, ilya ponomarev, invited me and the other deputies of state opinion to the fact that we are acting in this way, please pray there, by the way, i personally could not participate in the session, offline, online, offline, take part, i spoke online, i will still speak there, but uh, let's say, as we go, ambitious, very brave, such a decisive demand, yes a and a and

cancel the government of russia cancel putin yes , this is such a policy of cancellation eh why, because everything else has been tried, that's the problem. liberal associations with other ideological programs tried uh-uh protests and it came to the point of being dragged into modern wars. try the last means of others to the general russian immigration position. the parties understand that it is necessary to try to start with this, that there will be the main one further, and only this is what

has already been openly said that it is possible to break up with one's own, only by means of armed means , that is, by violence, no other methods will give results you won't understand. and you 're just for a reason. yes, if i speak in ukrainian, you will understand correctly. please tell me what is better before the call to arms. one of the russian political figures, leonid gotsman, said that he will not participate in this so-called summit because there will be a call for the armed overthrow of putin's dictatorial regime, that is, after all, there is such a thesis of the position of gosman, he has the right to it, and he probably has his own reasons for this . the rejection of violence, the beginning of politics, he went through an unguarded topic

, because it all came to the point that because of this disdain for stretchers, disdain for open armed resistance, they reached what i have already said, complete destruction in russia in general, the public principle and the public opinion of civil society are delighted in the neighboring countries, the killing of tens of tens of thousands of their own strangers there, well, strangers, which means, oh, threats, my hero of the war. what is the purpose of the world? not to participate in this, it is fair, in general, their claims are different people, different views, and different ways for this confrontation, the resistance of the current residence, the resistance of the putin regime, in my deep opinion, can only violent everything else doesn't work, uh, it's very easy to transfer it to the same ukraine, because there is a business in ukraine, you

asked for a resolution of it. military actions are with moscow's troops and punitive. and that's why it would n't do anything, but they took it and it fell and it's not there, you know, it's not there, and everything and the carriers are all these terrible things from the mission, it's not there because he was simply taken and killed on the day under kharkiv near kherson er, under the influence or somewhere else, therefore, er, it is necessary to accept this paradigm and the russian position against very much, nothing will come out again, not with these rallies, protests, call-up announcements, you will not give anything more. you see the conditional in this cartoon with the participation of prigozhin kadyrov, who is allegedly sick with the sheik and his generals, and right there the struggle is going on, and putin is leaning towards one side or the other . i don’t believe it at all.

proxies of such agents who carry out the will of putin himself, and he creates the situation, he also creates it and destroys his claims to the army. why did you lose this war? well, we don't understand completely, but why, that's it, that's all i gave you money, i provided you with everything. and you , look at what you have done, uh, this is one thing, and he constantly needs to show some kind of soundtrack with the other, some kind of oprichna or some kind of pritrians, the license is already coded and beautiful, and there are others. что если вы демуаете что вы с этого sprygnute poe how is the head of someone else? well, there they are standing on the role and we were not beautiful, but the second thing is that they would be players, but especially in each position , this is an absolutely game type. the ruins of putin himself because if

this season hadn't been there, he would have been swept off the table , and it's just that, in a blink of an eye, there's not even a memory of what kind of preparation is left, and in principle, here you see, again, this is a practical company which started, it seems to me that this is just a whitewashing of putin. how did patrushev and his crew persuade him to attack ukraine, by the way, this reminds me of the story when we were told that andropov, the grommy koustynov, were telling brezhnev to attack afghanistan, brezhnev is such a madman, he doesn’t understand anything there at all such a kind grandfather . yes, these evil people gathered and found brezhnego commit such a sloppy act. no , look. a serious year of our childhood has passed. well, from another country, and what putin accepted will end in a solution and unambiguously nothing of this, you are not there at

all , there are no them, yes, friend, and the question is for you to judge for yourself. the former colonel-general of the arms of the international relations department of the general staff, and everyone said that this speech was clearly connected with a request from the general staff. well, at least somehow the public will indicate the impossibility of this in anthury and others. one spoke a lot, and we saw their cap about it and even calls not to do it. it was a mistake on the part of the fsb . we didn’t hear anything. self-responsibility because, well, how now, it is necessary so that you do not become a board member and your girlfriend says that you have the strength, that was good, we had correct information, we evaluated it more or less correctly. but this is all. that's it

defeat excuse me, you have to look for the extreme, and here i fully admit that the army knew it, in what state it was, genstadt knew that everything was a reversal like a classical procedure, everything was stolen from you , that is, they perfectly understood that they would not be able to stand up to the ukrainian army, not on their own i did not motivate, but the help that i provided . the western allies are already pre-war. and that is why today i, the hunter, will believe that indeed some final things happened precisely from the submission of bortnikova and, uh, and patrushu himself, i did not fall like that well, i can admit that there is a reason behind it, of course, we did not see the minutes of the meeting, uh, according to the website of safe children, the questions were solved in the closed part. allies, these are ideas, they are people who will be insulted, it may not be worth it, because god knows how it will

go , i believe in this, there is no possibility. vordnyka, but oh, yes, yes, yes, no, they are the core of the political system, the core, remember how in the constitution of the brezhnev family of my year, the core of the political system is the kgb. i will introduce and and their task in something did not begin to preserve this system of power, but at the center of it, at the base of it, there are three persons. they create themselves the core of this system i can, and age ilya muromets alesha popovich and dobryn nikitchich in the state exactly what a charm and please tell me how you imagine the preservation of the kgb system without

vladimir vladimirovich putin here it is, as if some kind of move would be sacrificed to them, such a sacrifice by the king yes, this is generally common in chess, chess is still the favorite sport of the russians. you know, here is the sacrifice of the king, let's sacrifice the king, this can be allowed, but the problem is that it could have been done a little earlier now, the sacrifice of the king can lead to a. the system itself will do this very decisively, but there is no such possibility, of course, but they must have a solid replacement and a figure that will be able to hold the system, not uh, falling apart, you know, the system has already started, such a floor is falling apart, so far cautiously, we still do not see concrete damage, but in

principle, the management system itself began to fragment because the appearance of brought kadyrov as sumskaya players . go sit down with a machine gun because you are to blame for the fact that we lost a-and so as a result of this kharkiv operation, we lost 10 personal birds in a square kilometer. well, that would be impossible in the system that we are talking about, that is, publicly clarifying relations during the war. i repeat, inside the fsb system, the conversation is different, maybe someone sees a way out for themselves, someone sees them, there is

very little time left, so there are two questions. mark, the first one concerns riots in the russian federation, riots mobilized due to non-payment of money to them promised by the authorities, can they acquire a more massive nature of this nature, and the second question concerns the law signed by putin regarding the fact that prisoners can now be part of the russian army. do you think that this will help the russian army in the territory of ukraine ? this is just enmity and stupid er corruption that leads to the fact that er actually promised immediately begins to play, who will pay there, for example, whether the regional administration, the federation, the tables and the ministry of defense, well, of course, everything is stolen from you as usual, and it will continue, you will not stop, and there will be political soldiers about the fact that we

were not equipped here in the winter, we were not given proper tools, weapons, and so on, don’t drink money, i don’t drink it at all, it’s a chronic story, and it’s complicated to the extreme, so to speak, because i’m repeating the corrupt system from top to bottom, these problems are eternal, they’re chronic, and what about point out the way, he then blows against the condemned acts, which were allowed and the faces of the convicted, and uh, they attract the dude wagner, for example, and there are no legal bases. a few and here he goes even more and don't understand where to go with weapons eh there are iron rules never to accept people who have been tried in the army the more there is no best time why then already and who knows both to america take everyone shoot their eh just armies follows dude wagner over there