everything that happens is temporary, you know , starting in 2014, i had to enter into conversations there with the french, germans, british, and americans, where they said exactly that, but do it all the same, nothing will be done, but you will receive additional arguments in this way, they perfectly understand that european society and american society, they are not ready, it will simply realize that there is a war in europe, and that it has the potential to spread, that this moscow contagion will not stop, it will be this to stimulate a cancerous tumor, it will grow , and therefore for the european american politician , he must constantly look for certain

arguments for the voter, and i do not rule out that since the argument of the er in 2014 to the 22nd was that it is necessary to adopt a law, remember to make changes to the constitution, although when they started to explain in detail, they themselves did not understand why all this was needed, how it would affect the general system. electoral various there is no such thing as negotiations, negotiations, but you don't come from either side. well, when you understand that the führer of the kremlin is already planning a confrontation for decades, then what kind of negotiations can we talk about? well, it seems to me that ukrainian society is also not very aware of the fact that you and i are

in a long-term conflict at the point of exhaustion, and no one in russia is ready to stop. well, as for ukrainian society, it is in such a meat grinder. whether it wants it or not, ukrainian society will accept these rules and will live according to the principle of survival, therefore we have no choice, we must either win this war or we will not have it and those who understand the situation and the plans drawn up by the kremlin fuhrer for themselves, that's the only way they understand it, but what about the western electoral democracy, it is in such a half-hanging state when, well, forgive me the exile that i will use, but the rooster has not yet pecked so that it has already reached all the way down to the bottom of society and so on. they understand it so far let's say so elites on

levels of the establishment well, then it is mine if franko walter rushteinmeyer had to live the time from 2014 and go to kurukivka to understand what is happening, that is, you can imagine the distance a person and where is there on the 14th of 2008 when he offered the georgians the whole list of agreements which then they will be achieved. thus, having passed through such difficult tests. if you read in detail and the last marginal part of his speech, there are also certain hang-ups that are prostration, that is why we talk about the fact that western society, especially europe today is ready to open up and join this war, but no, but there are answers to this question, the answer is very simple, a german , french soldier, they should stand next to the

ukrainian one, and then society will understand what is happening . and the european community and washington really have a position regarding the mechanism of how to stifle this evil, which it develops, it poisons, it infects a lot of people in the world , and it will be enough, i think that we will all see it, survive at least one election, how do we let's see how this virus will infect, and in this case we must all be vigilant and aware of it , tell us how you perceive the situation on the border with

belarus . yes, i have as many of them as lukashenko and putin, because this system is managed there with the general staff of the russian federation, and this is not about whether they are ready, they are not ready, what is their combat capability. well, who has ever been in the kremlin in a thousand-year history asked this question, first of all, secondly, well, everyone always knew that all the moscow and st. petersburg emperors fought with foreign nations, the cossacks were driven to the turks, the cossacks were driven to the tatars, the cossacks were driven everywhere, only they did not chase them, they did not drive them. i don't say who saint - st. petersburg was built. and that's how it was done in soviet times, and that's why the question is clear to me. the belarusians will be pushed . another thing is that i hope at

least someone there understands that dragging the belarusians into the war is the same thing as creating something. there are colossal the partisan movement and the belarusian partisan - this is another thing that until now gives peace to those who try to study the history of the second world war, and society 90 well, almost 90% are against and that 's it. i think this is the only one with deterring motive for those who wants at least some real results of the involvement of belarus in this war, but i have no doubt that the cream understands very well that it was not possible to defeat ukraine and it will not be possible, but the kremlin how life and for life war exactly where it will be fought in belarus on the border of belarus ukraine is already a question simply tactics of the kremlin, but he lives the essence and content of the war

. and when will he see how belarusians and ukrainians fight, well, this is the essence, this is the content of the empire as such. in your opinion, in principle, it is possible to imagine that belarus still has any chances to distance itself from er, opportunities er, for this , some institutions are needed, this is the first time, relatively speaking , a collective winston churchill, who can be played by three countries, and these are poland, ukraine and lithuania ; and well, stadkevich already has a situation here you just need to monitor and understand the third - will it be called a regiment or a division or the army

of kalinovsky, or will it have a different name, but here are three things that can be solved with, firstly, they can preserve morale, they can preserve honor and they can pull belarus out of the war of another i did not see an option, what do you think in principle? this is the situation that putin himself is in today. it allows us to believe that he is aware of the economic and social risks that russia faces in the event of such a continuation of the war of attrition, or does it not bother him much? in general, i believe that the war was born as a way to answer the question of the poor in economic failure and so on. well, you understand when they say that after opening up, russia entered the world economy so that it began to work in it, it began to develop. and from my point of view, everything looks

on the contrary, pay attention to how he articulates in his speeches as soon as we opened, we destroyed the domestic producer, it sounds the same everywhere in his speech, that is, in fact, he does not ask the question of poverty, economic disaster, etc. that is, it is typical the totalitarian totalitarian approach is what it is. these are the ideals of the church in this case in full detail, and there as far as capitalism is allowed, as far as it will serve the cooperative, the totalitarian cooperative. this is the lake, this is the trough from which all this kremlin kremlin brothers are fed. and she, pay attention, she has been for more than 20 years unchanged, so they shuffle one there and the other here. only it does not change in full, but what you say, in principle, does not leave

any special chances for the development of the situation because yes, definitely, definitely, not only does he not allow the development of the nation, he is the leader of regression, this is kim jong-un of russian origin, who generally sees his own concept of world development, the essence of which is the revival of imperial mechanisms, the conquest of territory, the use of foreign intelligence moving the borders away from the center of the metropolis and so on, the political influence of the formation of an alternative financial system, and so on. with some fragments of capitalism that are

involved in exceptionally corrupt schemes that are needed only by putin himself, his entourage and his court court business, in principle, what china is saying now, it can be said that it is in favor of russia, or is it still such an attempt to distance oneself from the package thus, china's topic of russia is the topic of a permanent closed confrontation that is not always read publicly and uh, whatever it was, whether it was mao zedong, whether it was seapiin day, or whether it was uh, xizenpin, it's all the same to china secretly dreamed, dreams and implements the policy of seizing the far east, the north of the russian federation, and so on. well, everyone still remembers the decision of the politburo from 1972, this is the ccp, the essence of which was expansion in the soviet territory, and this policy has not

stopped, but it does not carry an open public character, now with regard to the statement and so on, china is like a huge object. he is afraid of very small mistakes because these small mistakes in his coordinate system are in this day of xiaopinovsky nepovsky sisypinsky system will lead to very serious patriarchy and in conditions when eh between there people who are in concentration camps, political prisoners and these figures of economic, industrial and other achievements, and they have to waver . corruption is some other nonsense. but for them today, russia, the soviet union, russia is a well-read book, just like they did in their time, when mao zedong was offended by the fact that after stalin he

should have been the leader of the world, and here he appeared a certain khrushchev's kotygoroshko began to put steps on him like that and now sisinpin has clearly decided for himself the way he behaves in china that i am the leader of the world, putin wants to do something there well, let him attach it to this wagon with a saddle horse, but from my point of view if russia is a parasite, then in the current situation, it is a temporary illness, and when i understand this, i already mobilized a long time ago and closed this issue, because since 2008, a lot of water has leaked and a lot of things have become clear, the chinese are very serious and this very serious the adversary is a very serious enemy of the civilized world and it will not be possible to deal with him so easily because it is a game of so-called great

numbers, which in terms of the potential of strength and poisoning by these left-wing things carries a very huge negative energy that is why we need to think about it here, what do you think if russia has corrupted everyone around, and in ukraine and not only china, you can also resort to such an instrument of influence. china itself lives and relies on corruption, because it can be seen from the way they act with aliexpress, since they are dealing with these re-education camps, since they are forming a new political position, the fact that china is already seriously using the tool of corruption, especially in africa, well, everyone knows very well that today whoever tries to at least somehow turn to the african market is always the first to be inspired by it will be china, and the peculiarity of chinese corruption lies in its legalization, in that it takes care

of communist leaders. corruption, which at one time in the russian empire was, well, called feeding when there was a certain official, and from this oles some regions or enterprises that he had to put on the table, as it was written, here, here, here, such feedings. these are the two pipes that are given to them under the influence of this china he is very attached to himself by those anti-french establishment men who don't quite understand what's going on. well, it certainly affects the world. well , what does he say today in france when we look at the average level there? from the point of view property from the point of view of the influence of e-e chinese business it is of colossal importance well, at least in the last visit of the chancellor of germany to china, he answered a lot of questions where there is an answer and one must understand

that the interconnectedness of e-e the huge chinese market and high european technologies well er, this is a thing, it is read from above. thank you, mr. roman . roman, an immortal politician, a diplomat, a former ambassador of ukraine to the republic of belarus, a representative of the president of ukraine in the parliament, we were in touch, we will now continue this international topic he talked about something else with another segment, but it is no less important than the situation related to china , another important such ally of moscow, and much more active in the military and technical industry than the people's republic of china, the islamic republic of iran, which this week for the first time recognized the fact the fact that it supplies drones to the russian federation was supplied before the war, as

the head of the iranian foreign ministry said. this already indicates that the situation is changing quite realistically oleksandr ovcharov i was an advisor to the embassy of ukraine in tehran . i worked as a temporary advisor to the ambassador of the embassy. or from years, if for a decade of sanctions of the civilized world, what is really interested in is that russia wins in ukraine and thus dictates its own rules of engagement, iran could also take advantage of this by dictation because bringing democracy to its knees is the dream of any autocrat. and for that, you can kill millions of people, not dozens of forests or hundreds of thousands, or, after all, we are talking about the banal

use of our territory to test soviet weapons and those iranian weapons that will be used tomorrow for the war and saudi arabia from the war in iraq for the war of faith for the war in israel iran is interested in a whole network of major military conflicts and the spread of its influence on neighboring countries, primarily those countries where large number of population, iraq, lebanon, sincerely, all of these are areas of interest to iran, the manger, that in order for the positions to strengthen, it is necessary to undermine the influence of the sumy states, undermine the influence of israel, undermine the influence of the

united states. by the president of the european commission to strengthen sanctions against, but to what extent it is possible to intimidate iran with sanctions in its current situation, the issue of sanctions is, in principle, one of the most effective means of influencing countries that violate generally accepted rules, international obligations, and so on, according to my experience, iran also has the experience of living and

developing under the influence of sanctions for almost 40 years. with the help of countries that helped circumvent these sanctions, there is already evidence that iran used the help of the russian federation, belarus, china, possibly other countries for which, or because of their political goals, tasks in this region or solely for economic and financial reasons, this may be more relevant to western european companies, perhaps there are american companies that, in principle, put their political or financial profits first

took place, but apply sanctions not only against iran, but against those countries of companies that help it circumvent these sanctions. what do you think, in principle , is the main interest of the morning when it comes to about the supply of weapons to russia, money for weapons tests, aid to russia itself. i think that of course this is a factor. money and tests and other considerations must also be taken into account, but i think that they cannot be put in the first place. the thing is that iran is actually becoming a circle. e countries are renegades to which, with the victory of ukraine, i am convinced that the attitude of the whole world will change, and here, of course, the price

of the question is the two most important versions that currently exist, because you must also understand that working exclusively with open sources of information, we we can only make assumptions, but knowing the mentality, i can put some features of the policy in the first place, this is what is the price of the question , this is nuclear technology, of course, and a secondary but very important question is to create e-e in the country , that is, to solve our internal problems at this expense, taking into account that that the internal situation is seriously escalating. and it is possible that the escalation of relations in this region may become a reason to put pressure on the local population, which, by the

way, also opposes cooperation with russia er, against ukraine, the supply of weapons is meant. thus, i think that after all, iran was able to do such unyielding things solely for such reasons. how do you feel about the current and early protests? they are really so threatening for the regime. is it because the regime can overcome the protests in iran, which means, in principle, they can be divided into two such parts: there are protests that are organized and managed by the authorities for one reason or another, from the pre-election struggle, in order to sweep up the indignation of the local population against some countries that

lead to the capture of e-e foreign proxies and there are spontaneous protests that, for example, through studentship, this is one of the most critical from a political point of view. categories of the population that are ready, they arise spontaneously and the government, which is characteristic in contrast to well, if you can say so, democratic countries, it cracked down very hard using the police, the islamic revolutionary guard corps, other armed groups, and they will not hesitate if they have to use weapons, if they have to use the army, and of course you

the forces that can initiate it, for example, the iranian opposition, but not what is abroad, namely the internal one, and it is not so strong, weak, iran does not hesitate when it is necessary to send people to prison, close websites, block the internet and monitor the attitude of the iranian authorities one or other of the protests can be characterized by one of the following characteristics, such as blocking the internet during the process. throughout the country, this can mean that it is causing concern, is it really ready to fight with saudi arabia, and why? by the way, it is with saudi arabia, not with israel, against which the slogan of victory is always proclaimed, i think that once again, with

iran's characteristic manners and willingness to directly intervene , it is unlikely that the arab world and the region will dare to directly attack saudi arabia. the camp of supporters, if there are still any left, they will become outcasts in the middle and near east, most likely iran will make attempts to escalate if it is determined to do so through its proxies. that iran is not ready for direct military intervention and it is unlikely that it will be ready in the near future, as far as you know for sure that they have such a strategy of asymmetric warfare, that is, this missile

attack, the launch of drones, not only from the territory of early ukraine , but also from neighboring saudi arabia because of a radical group controlled by iran, most likely they will do this, but if saudi arabia takes what military measures in response, this may lead to the declaration of war because ideologically, saudi arabia has long been an enemy of iran after the united states of israel, and uh, i think that they can be put in third place, taking into account the relations in the last decades, since they are constantly in a state of decline, well, that is, in fact, it is considered that it can be like this actions that

the russians carried out against their neighbors, such hidden diversions, provocations, yes. here i think, unfortunately, although russia can now give an extremely negative example of this kind. but really, there are a lot of similar things. because iran, in spite of all of them, has replaced this islamic regime and so on. they cannot be considered fools. they have good analysts. they have a military with significant military experience and i am sure. why do they want to develop missile technology with nuclear technology because they perfectly understand that direct aggression and their armed forces, they are

not ready, unable, er, to make an attack not on a neighboring country, let alone on a country that is at such a distance, such as, for example , saudi arabia, moreover, against military attacks and interference, er, it is definitely this is just their the population is largely iranian, it is against the use of force, it is a peaceful people, as it is and especially now, it wants to live normally , to develop, and there is no need to overestimate the influence of the religious e-e, which may seem that this influence is spread over mostly the majority of countries, plus it must be taken into account that e- saudi arabia and neighboring countries have modern weapons, which if,

for example, our saudi arabia, its neighbors lose in manpower, but its modern weapons supplied by the united states of america the country's advantage there is simply insane, it is unlikely that russia will be able to compensate, and uh, i think that now we can hope for russia, which uh, is suffering defeats, one of the clockwork and is concentrating all its efforts, it is scavenging everything that is in ukraine, it is very difficult to hope for this, thank you, thank you mr. oleksandr oleksandr ruscharov , the former didactic representative of ukraine was in touch with us earlier.