uh, as such, the ukrainian nation is also silent about it, and somehow they are more silent about other things, for some reason, uh, they pay attention, but in relation to the cross, you know, the form of ownership is not always the determining factor for efficiency, it is a certain liberal house that the state is an ineffective owner of a share, no less, well which already have a much larger share of state property than is left in ukraine, and this property is quite effective here, it is not a matter of ownership, but a matter of management . appoint thieves and thieves to responsible positions, let it be normal, i would like to appoint decent ones yes, but we understand that if there are certain non-transparent processes that are controlled in manual mode, quite

unpleasant surprises can happen quite often, that is, in general, that is, without relative decency, dishonesty, that is the story with fedoras and trenkos, yes we understand that certain procedures were violated. when the vitrenko was appointed, then, so to speak, some experts had colossal questions about the appointment of fedorov as the head of naftogaz, and what and nothing was appointed well, you know that naftogaz is a painful topic in general , because according to the third energy package ratified by ukraine, it should be liquidated as an energy super monopoly and divided into three companies: the one that produces, the one that transports, the one that sells, and the monopolist remains because it is beneficial to some authorities yes, we understand that it was always unclean there, there were murky schemes there, in a monopoly, you can always do things. well, what is the worth

of a scumbag from the supervisory board who does practically nothing . they are not responsible for anything and receive six-figure bonuses, salaries, the same wind , the fact is, he actually filled up the plus of the season this year, before retiring, he wrote to himself that i love them to the people, by appointment, to the appointees in naftogaz, more than three billion hryvnias, a bonus during the war, what is being asked for, he should go on resignation go to the bunks and you are under investigation let our anti-corruption bodies figure out what the bonuses are and the same in other state monopolies look at the ukrzaliznitsa there, your colleague seryozha leshchenko does not understand what the supervisory board gets there hundreds of thousands of hryvnias of wages and bonuses, for which the same question is asked in ukrposhta in other monopolies, they are going to bring it there. lol,

we already understand it, so here we will say a lot. the question is given, the answer is the same. the people's deputy was working now live on the espresso 14.1 tv channel at the 32nd minute, let's go further, let's talk a little about the united states of america, there will be congressional elections and how exactly these elections and that election americans are interested in the situation in ukraine, we will ask vladyslav porforov, a political scientist and analyst, and an interview from ukraine, vladyslav . good day to you. please tell us what to expect from the results of these elections. well, if it is so constructive to begin briefly, then in fact expect continued cooperation and still not hmm i would say not to succumb to such active

pre-election rhetoric and activation of a certain kind and a change in such an if, if you can say in the ukrainian context, yes and everything and yet anyway, it should be based on the fact that, um, we are very much counting on the united states for support, and in particular, for the support of the congress, despite the fact that there is a lot of information there in the last two or three weeks and before that, in fact, uh, there was information, in particular, statements from there some candidates for non positions in the congress. in fact, i would still talk about the fact that we would hmm, let's say, concentrate more on interdepartmental cooperation on obtaining weapons and so on

. how will the status quo change now? republicans can really get both a majority of representatives and a majority in the upper chamber. in the senate, this vladyslav, on the other hand, we understand that a part of the republican elites, so to speak, gravitates towards a certain isolationism, and they uncontrollably criticize the current president of the united states, joseph biden, precisely because of so to speak, according to their words, for excessive aid to ukraine, and for some reason they are sure, well, why, they at least voice similar things on their broadcasts, so that the president neglects the interests of the so-called ordinary people americans to agree with ukraine, so to speak, well , at least there is a certain disparity in aid. so, accordingly, the situation is not as simple as we would all like. i partially agree, in fact

, it is very important here to place these accents that exactly uh, in particular, they blame biden's opponents or at the administration of the white house not only in excessive aid to ukraine, but in general for such active involvement let's say so to er to er to in principle aid to ukraine, respectively, at the same time contrasting er and increased inflation and again, in principle, the problems on the southern border with mexico and so on, yes, that is, let's say that they use the issue of aid and involvement to help ukraine, that is, it is not so much about financial and military resources, but even from the point of view of distribution, if possible to say attention from the point of view of policy-making eh just eh how how uh is actually very important and i think the

best answer to this is that already last week information was made public in the media about the fact that the pentagon started and er hmm and continues in fact, let's say that we entered an account of the weapons provided to ukraine and came to the conclusion that, in fact, all weapons, all military aid, they go according to their intended purpose, yes. that is, in fact, this is the moment when some such moments intervene to a certain extent. i.e., the congress for the administration and, accordingly, this is the only global thing that the republicans could actually say, that there are allegedly some issues with the

aid that ukraine has already received. instead, we we see that the pentagon is very timely for us, yes , in fact, the transformation has been made public that such supervision is carried out accordingly, there are no questions in this sense for ukraine, that since this september, accounts have been activated on major social networks - it is the united states of america, which probably has false conditions, they do not have or incorrect information about users is specified, they do not respond to messages, and their content is directed exclusively at discrediting the president of the united states, joe biden, and the democrats in various regions. well and they assume they suspect that it is the arms or legs of all that are growing from russia. how big is this discredit machine launched now in the united states by russia? well, here again they told you to tell how big it is here, the more

the question is actually for the russians how much they are ready to spend resources in vain, because you know, as of now, as of last night, there was information that almost 40 people, 40 million people have already voted early. this is an absolute record if we are talking about midterm elections, which are usually not used with such popularity, and as a rule, they attract attention, after all, which position, yes, that is, in this case, for example, republicans, and instead, precisely republicans tend to vote in person, so it can be assumed that to a greater extent it was just supporters of the democratic party, that is, supporters of biden and so on, but it is precisely in this context, as far as i understand, how there were attempts to interfere, er, on the part of russia last time, in the past mid-term elections in the 19th year, in the presidential elections in the 16th and in the 20th years, these are attempts to gain access to, well

, if that is the case in our reality, translate it into alternatives or something similar to the voter register, because in our understanding , there is actually no such single register, there are party data that they collect information about where they live, where they are, and, accordingly, there is all the contact information about their supporters, uh, accordingly , they use it for their own campaigning, so i understand that there were attempts to get such data again, but in fact, the discussion of the rabid in tatah after the 20th year too and after the 16th they were very serious and i think that the fact that we are talking about it appeared in the media only now in fact, i think that it speaks of the fact that it was not possible to influence globally because, well, talk about i

think it was an exaggeration, because both parties actively campaigned and only intensified recently, but in fact, de facto started a long time ago, so talk about any noticeable influence, at least hmm, now there is such information there is no and uh, you know all those data. they also age very quickly, in fact. uh, i saw how uh, both parties. and what applications, let's say, they use in their pre-election campaigning, and in fact, you know, well, in fact, the problem is like we have with and our voter register, that is, someone accordingly received a message about voting there, this person does not live here, he is not alive there, and so on, that is, there is a lot of this information, so i do not rule out that uh, in fact, well, it is more attempts than , after all, we can talk about the real impact of that

what if, if it were so, i think that it was known about it earlier p. vladyslav, and to what extent iran has now returned to the agenda of the united states at one time, we remember perfectly the formula about the axis of evil. so where the priest appeared in particular, we understand that the state supplies russia only drones . they are preparing supplies and ballistic missiles. we understand how the russian federation will use them, but this is a separate story. will be ready to include their power and the power of their allies in order to somewhat restrain iran's appetites in the same defense , information has appeared that the saudis are already worried because butzimba iran was preparing to attack them , and the key issue that is now taking place is the iranian

problem and the iranian threat in the domestic agenda of the united states is a very important contemporary issue. i will answer it, uh, from the point of view of, let's say , several perspectives, the first is in public rhetoric, as there uh, on the part of the state department tools no blinken on which last week he was in germany he talked about it separately well yes and in general well basically all the representatives of the administration eh we see a lot of intensified anti-giant rhetoric and it is of course eh hm caused in fact just the involvement of mirana in assistance to russia, and in particular, in fact, in attempts to help in avoiding sanctions, and from the point of view of the destruction of

sanctions against itself. yes, because uh, and again, a certain kind of sanctions, yes, they are, as a rule, again, very uh, quickly , let's say, they become not very noticeable, and that's why the work from the point of view of re-evaluating sanctions and introducing new ones, i think that it has already been started but again, we don't need to entertain ourselves with illusions that it will uh-uh end quickly and that it will pass somehow so um imperceptibly, in fact , it was also an exaggeration. i think that this month, maybe only towards the end, we will really hear something like that there some specific essential e-e new ones sanctions against iran, but from the point of view of precisely

helping ukraine to cope with precisely the consequences and intervention of the council. i think that the main thing will be precisely the adaptation, to a certain extent, of american aid in order to oppose drones and possible missiles, and that is why i think that the iranian topic has returned to the top priorities of american foreign policy, but this, too, to a certain extent, will partly cause discussions, in particular, between the linguistic camp of biden and the republicans, who are in particular at the top the congress in the senate actively criticized biden in principle for the idea of ​​returning to the so-called nuclear agreement. yes, this aspect interferes to some extent and will interfere precisely with biden's organization to say that they are ready to really

return to victory in format of the so-called nuclear agreement. therefore, it will cause a discussion. but i think that this kind of rhetoric is about the priority of aid to ukraine, in particular after iran actively joined the aid. i think that and when it sounds from anthony blinken on international forum. i think that we have no doubts and there should be no doubts that the united states is there. as president biden and other officials of the american administration say, they will support us as long as it takes. thank you, mr. vladislav. vladyslav farafonov, political scientist, americanist analyst-kinter news ukraine worked live on the espresso tv channel well, let's hope that the american squadron, so to speak, will be able to hint at something and the wound so that not only russia has the only

take care of the regime of the ayatollah, let's live and see, let's go further lesya vakulyuk andriy er andriy yours is already a habit everything is very good with borkovsky i think prosyvchuka er antin berkovskyi we are working for you this is a marathon espresso we will continue further, we will also talk a little about the united states of america but in the context of ukraine, it is also interesting to understand that it does not mean that the united states privately requires ukraine to demonstrate its readiness for negotiations with russia, and now maria and ono are members of the people's deputy of ukraine we will ask the committee of the verkhovna rada on foreign policy, mrs. maria. have a good day. good day. glory to ukraine is glad to see that lesya touched on an extremely important problem, and the visit of jake sullivan, what is behind that extremely

difficult visit, which took place without any media hype, so to speak, we understand that advisor sullivan is one of president joseph biden's right-hand men, dealing with the solution, so to speak, well. at one time, it was called shuttle diplomacy. yes, we understand that salivo is responsible for national security issues, but in addition as far as we understand, he has a certain mandate to lead certain negotiations, in particular, backroom ones. so, decipher the dreams for us, ladies, you know . on american politics, that is, it is really true, but i would not look for any problems here, because the position of america after his visit, on the contrary, military aid is increasing

, we are talking about sanctions, pressure on russia is being caused and it seems to me that it is more there. the russian federation is interested in saying that the united states is pushing ukraine towards some kind of negotiations. in fact, you and i see that kremer is more interested in negotiations because they see. well, there is defeat after defeat, and i think that the most important negotiators are already during these nine months, it is the ukrainian army and ukrainian society that is why and i see only if the success of this visit is clear that everything is there well, it's not easy and we also know the position of pen stalin but again, the position of the united states is being strengthened, you also get the position of gsaven , and it is unchanged, you and i, on the contrary, see that our allies and partners will be, er, to victory together with ukraine, er, i would say here that we just

we have to constantly keep our finger on the pulse to systematically work with every appropriate system, to work with parliamentary gas station problems, to systematically work with those countries in which, let's say, political opinion is not as strong as even society's opinion, and that's why i think you perceive it positively this visit took place, it is clear that there are some behind -the-scenes negotiations and the fact that these negotiations are taking place, and hmm, it is normal, but as they say, the main thing is that ukraine's position does not seem to be the same as ours, and the policy that was implemented since 2014 that without ukraine there is nothing about ukraine without ukraine e- if she had returned to the beginning of full-scale aggression, and that can only be given away. but i would , you know, not look for any negative things here, the main thing is that the ukrainian position will continue to

be strong, and the help will continue as financial and military in ukraine and our armed forces are the best negotiators that can be at the moment, as much as you and i can see, in fact, ukraine is not the one that breaks and breaks all stereotypes , in fact, ukraine is now an example of many other countries. we are fighting for our democratic ukraine with dignity, because as far as practice is concerned, it can be simply unique in other cases in the history of the modern world in the last 100 years. well, maybe the struggle of the vietnamese people is possible. we will mention it now, so to speak, in view of political correctness, yes well, in any case, ukraine is holding its own, ukraine is now deciding the fate of central europe, and not only, and perhaps we also influence future scenarios, and it is not for nothing that putin is starting to look for various proof

formulas it will not happen, on the other hand , there will now be a big conference at the ball, in particular, it is about the g20 meeting, we would like to ask you, maybe there are some signals regarding the formation of our delegation, and accordingly, it is about the formation of a delegation of russian and what will be on the agenda in your opinion ms. maria, you as a member of the verkhovna rada committee on foreign policy i think you know more than we guess thank you for believing that we can more you know we if considering if we in time annual political er, some stories, i would like a continuation of our opinion, a stylish position, an example of a successful, such an invincible, such a stable, worthy position of ukraine of our struggle . that it is important to preserve democracy in different

directions, that this is our main value and we should not lose this example, but you have already so ​​20 partially answered the question because i think that it is precisely all these objections about the negotiations that america is written ukraine is also one of these hybrid mechanisms and messages that putin is currently promoting around the world, recently i often give interviews to arab tv channels . what terminology do they use? and you know, since march, we have been working on the fact that putin was not at this meeting of the g20. i think that is why he is also blackmailing what concerns novaya kakhovka and others. hmm, his usual blackmailing positions. he just raises the stakes so that, er, he went to the fourth and he had someone to talk to, because

then uh, they would want to talk to him and discuss something , but i'm sure that it's just not worth ana meeting with him, i'm already talking about even the russian delegation has an invitation to be isolated, to simply not have a meeting, but the strong position of the world is important here, you and i know that not everyone is like that, the position of ukraine , because we understand the influence of russia on other countries, we see it from the un assembly, but again a lot has changed already, and you and i can see how those countries that were even supported in the past send such political signals that they do not agree with putin's policy, with his terrorist accusations, what war crimes he commits against of the civilian population of ukraine is what concerns our delegation. well, we have heard the position of president zelenskyi. it is clear that if

putin is there, the highest level will not be there, but what we have to do is talk with our partners and allies and continue to work and tell the world the truth as it is, we have to use this site, and the only thing i won't tell you now is who is going from the verkhovna rada, who is going to the government , because some things, i think, are not agreed upon by ms. maria, the latest polls in germany say that 70% of germans do not support an increase in military aid to ukraine, and when people actually say this, who then somehow communicate it to their politicians, it becomes scary. and and the war is still going on and what should we do about it mrs. lesi i would like to ask you here then who conducted this survey and who inserted the question

and which question exactly because again let's not forget about the government organizations that are financed through various rostorgs there and everything else, how they know how to manipulate, we feel it and know it since 2014, as far as we know, german society is just the opposite, it supports ukraine and the media. look, there are no very negative media, even such ones. - and um, there is a question of leadership in leadership, but it is changing. believe me, the position of even the chancellor. well, it is changing very much, and what we are currently provided with is air defense and we are working on more. well military aid, such heavy weapons, it is a matter of time. i am sure that he is already civilized , he understands who mr. putin is and what consequences for the whole world and what threats he poses, so here is a

question of real leadership, here is a question of the ability to make such bold decisions ah society, i would not talk about german society here, that they are against helping ukraine there , because i would like to see exactly how the question was asked, because we are now seeing a lot of manipulations, including, by the way, before the g20 and we have to be vigilant, well, i wanted you to warn us, so to speak, about some kind of manipulation, and at the beginning of our conversation, i remembered this moment very well, you mentioned that there are, so to speak, certain signals that indicate that it is not over a healthy atmosphere, in particular, it is about the level of democracy in our glorious country, mrs. maria, ah, such a difficult question, you know, during the war, we understand that the west will support us in this way because we are a country - a victim of aggression. yes, but on the other hand, we

understand that we have to build a democratic a mature european state, but we understand that there are extremely many forces in our state, there are certain trends , so to speak, everyone is trying to promote their narratives, the main thing is that the de facto democratic pudding turns out, yes, not some kind of, so to speak , not completely healthy hybrid well, the west will simply be forced sometimes to agree with the other partner, so to speak, but the current vertical is not very good for him. with us, you gave me time to think, probably the most diplomatic answers . because here you know the question, we do not criticize. and we we call on the government to actually understand the challenges and dangers that await us, and if anyone thinks that more international partners do not see what is happening, and in the field of media freedom of speech is ahead of the fight against corruption, and in the field of corporate and management, what is

it even applies to the budget process, it was such, you know, such a cold shower for us, i would say so, because after all, during the war and during such a difficult economic situation, we have to forget about those things and those articles in the budget that usually uh used for the sake of, you know, favoring the authorities, and that's why we pay attention to it, and that's why we're in favor of making sure that the discussion is transparent and open, that it must be politically balanced, because society needs to know different opinions and the whole process of consideration budget and who defended what, i'm not talking about the fact that if the euro-atlantic course is established in the constitution, we must not only talk about it, but also act and implement legislation in such a way that we do not come back later and do not change it, moreover, i

i think that now our partners and allies see what is happening, they also don't like it very much mrs. maria, you are currently there. as far as i understand, i am at the airport. where are you? tell us well, in fact, we are still on the way, because today there is a democracy forum, and tomorrow there is a big conference on local self-government, a large delegation of representatives of local self-government and the parliament is going, you know, this kind of discussion is important why because we understand how important capable communities are, how important independent local authorities are, this is also one of the principles of democracy, and we will also talk about unpleasant things.