let the armed forces of ukraine in order to evacuate from the city of kyiv if i am going home under the white church, we stopped here the first day we are from kherson we will be in ukraine until the end, for example, it will not matter if kyiv will be where our plan was let's say it was the same during the first attack and in the second case, if he remains the same, sit here until the end if you are going to fly shells over your heads here, then go to europe, light always defeats darkness, we hope for the best, so we heard what you think, some plan has appeared well, for now, we are thinking where we just recently arrived from kherson and that is why the move again is so stressful to go to mykolayiv to be closer to my hometown. so i don’t have a smooth and clear if there will be a really complete

lockdown and well, really, while i am even i am asking to solve the problem with electricity at the expense of dbz now i am wondering where to find it, because it is necessary for work, but if it is total there for a week, then until we make plans, i will be because we are going somewhere . we are going to kiev. relatives are in three cities or in a village, so there is no reason to go anywhere russian marines from primorye fighting in donetsk region complained to their governor about the military command in their letter to the governor there are hundreds of dead and wounded in just 4 days, the complaint was reported as follows so-called kremlin military correspondents who support the war in ukraine , the text of the letter was made public on telegram channels. in

their letter, servicemen from the 155th marine brigade of the pacific fleet say that four days lost about 300 soldiers killed , wounded and missing during what they say was an inexplicable attack on the village of pavlivka pavlivka under ugledar in the donetsk region marines ask the governor to address the supreme commander-in-chief, i.e. vladimir putin, with a request to send an independent as they write and not related with the ministry of defense, the commission of the governor of the primorsky krai, oleg kozhumyako, asked the prosecutor's office to verify the information of the servicemen, but at the same time he assumed that it was in kyd from the ukrainian special services what happened in pavlivka, now let's talk , yuriy butusov, chief editor of the censor.net publication, yuriy butusov, joins us. yuriy good evening, good. greetings. i looked up where primorye is, but suddenly, who doesn't know our viewers, er, i'll say that it's primorsky krai. there it borders with china and japan

across the sea and it is almost 10,000 km to donetsk, where these marines were actually transferred, so what happened to them there, the russian command decided to attack the city of vugledar, it is one of the key hub cities in donbas, and that is why the russians decided to attack through the village of pavlivka, for this village, from the very beginning of the russian invasion, fierce battles were fought by the russians at the beginning of the invasion, they captured it, then our troops drove out the russians from where they inflicted heavy losses from the very beginning, the russian marines were operating in this direction at the moment - these are battalions of tactical groups, several battalions of tactical groups of up to four from the composition of two brigades of marine infantry

of the 155th pacific fleet and the 40th brigade, she went even further, she came here in pieces. that's why the enemy is trying to capture the pavlovka and uh, in this way to attack after pavlivka, to seize ugledar, the goal of capturing pavlivka is to capture the ugledar, but as we see the ukrainian soldiers, in the footage you show, the soldiers are the backbone of the defense, our 72nd mechanized brigade, which defended kyiv, and the 72nd brigade inflicts, as we see in these videos, this video the 72nd mechanized brigade of black zaporozhians is inflicting heavy losses on the russian marines. well , we see these summer formations, such losses cannot be sustained. please clarify how it is for people who are not involved

in military affairs. well, the marines are simple. it speaks for itself that these people have to somehow defend the borders of the country, probably somewhere on the sea or near the sea. and why would they be thrown into donbas? there is some explanation in this, in general, in the russian and soviet military schools, the role of rapid response troops in the most combat-ready there is mobility, high mobility and a high level of individual e-e training, the greatest combat capability has always been in such elite troops as airborne troops e-e, special forces and marines that's why the marines are in the russian army, now they are used as such shock assault units, it is enough to say that now the airborne troops of russia are concentrated from all

brigades of all divisions in the kherson direction on the kherson bridgehead. and here at once two brigades of marines attack vugledar through pavlovka the russian edition of verstka writes that a battalion of mobilized russian soldiers was destroyed over the weekend near the village of makiivka in the swativ district of the luhansk region. who was just mobilized from the voronezh region and it generally says that the victims may exceed the figure of 500 people. i don't know if you know anything about this story. i don't think so. i think it 's a bit of an exaggeration . 500 in one battalion is small, probably eh. i think that this is just a demonstration of the telepanic that exists in the russian

army. in fact, the russian command is recruiting battalions of mobilized people and they are simply going to fight against the ukrainian troops. huge losses they are knocked out eh many of them flee from the front eh they get captured and die they are killed they have injuries so of course really close very quickly such units eh have to be withdrawn from the front due to heavy losses i fully assume that 500 eh the number of people in the battalion is the total loss of killed, wounded, prisoners and deserters who escaped. well, in general. if we talk about the newly mobilized. well, what i have to hear from the experts is that i understand that most of them are thrown here on donetsk and luhansk.

the direction to the east is correct, russia is using the mobilized to reinforce all directions, they are replenishing the entire front line, because 300,000 is a huge number, er, i want to say that well, this number is enough for the enemy to replenish all areas of the front, and there was also a message today from of the general staff that the armed forces of ukraine struck a chechen unit in occupied lysychansk and there it is reported again that we cannot verify this information that more than 300 died people and in general, how would you now describe the role of these kadyriv units, which seem to have been very motivated at the beginning? and what is happening to them now? part -

these are people who are now uh kadyrov forced uh into the service of putin who was thrown into battle, they look good, beautiful and well dressed but of course uh there are a lot of random people they are used very carefully in the first line, the russians are mobilized with the russian federation, and kadyrov plans to use chechens very carefully and we try not to take risks. in ukrainian, it is treated completely differently, it is a privileged unit , unlike the russians, thank you very much for your comment

, yuriy butusov, editor-in-chief of the online publication censor.net was on radio freedom. well, the story of marine roman continues. he spent 43 days in russian captivity in an occupied deer park in the donetsk region. he defended mariupol. he was wounded . he lost an arm. listen to his story. boys, we were in the sea for about three hours, the team started to go to the base and we went to the base there, you will make him come in, the russian ships were already there nearby, i was a supporter until march 18, 15, already when were the order to azov began to enter the bad ones on april 11, and

they were in position, there was mortar shelling, a comrade sprinkled through the forest to dig him up, they flew over once more, and it already rained on me, well, from above, it was already burned in half higher than the comrade, the truth is that it did not turn out to be enough, the one behind whom the japanese this is the second wound. it was already at the crossing. on april 15, on april 19, one of the last shellings took shelter there. there was a building like that. they sat down in a small room. i also think that the guys are one and a half meters tall. i don’t know how those two managed to do that. there are no guys, i just ran away, and now i was sitting with this hand holding the machine gun this time and it doesn’t hold the machine machine fell. everything i had with me, the harness was

rewound, i went further and lo and behold. when i arrived, our hotel arrived, i didn’t leave that bunker until the at the end of the day, we didn’t go out to olenyaka, i didn’t fight there anymore on the linivka prison, we were brought there for inspection, someone had some things there, well, i don’t have god, nothing. baraka they determined the barracks, there were about 500 of us, er, this barrack is a solution of 100, 120, then for a spider, then for a lion, it was somehow fed, well, three times a day, but i arrived, i weighed 30 kg. i drove only 67, and in february i weighed 93-92 sheck some kind of bread, er, well, one tenth part makes a loaf of bread for 10 parts for me for one meal, well, it turns

out in three meals, yes, i always wanted to eat, all the conversations were all about food. the week was not quite there, it's not clear where then they installed some tanks, put two tanks of 500 liters each for the whole barak and brought them, they said it was one, one tank, technical water, the second tank is visible. well, there it seems that it is the same, too, well, they transported it from the pond, they collected it, and the other, well, some kind of fire truck, some kind of water was brought there well, it seems to me that it tastes the same, but there was also some kind of household soap that was also produced, of course there was no toothpaste, we used this soap to make liquid soap in

plastic bottles. there with words there are apples well, i say that i didn't touch it with my hands and so it was different there, every wound to the russian national anthem was taken out into the street at six in the morning, formation everyone stands and listens, well, it's far from the geneva conventions there and nowhere near it and now i was talking i don't know i i can’t say that the guys are still sitting there so they don’t say it’s far from the zhenetsky convention and it doesn’t smell like it there, well, you see, it’s gotten a little worse. and now i’m coming to myself, everything seems to be fine. he promises that the prosthesis will be put in soon and i’ll be back, of course. and who will do it?

together there were so many experiences, so many dreams together to travel to ukraine and there was a soul that i am here, they are there, well, it is what it is. of course, there victory in the first place should be. the us and nato authorities assume that ukraine can start negotiations with russia from a position of strength after the ukrainian the army will liberate kherson, which is occupied by russian troops, the italian newspaper lara pablika writes about it. today, we have already partially discussed this with the adviser to the head of the president's office mykhailo mykhailo podolak, according to the us publication conveyed such a message to the european union and are instilling this opinion in the ukrainian authorities. the newspaper also notes that

washington first put forward such a proposal that against the background of all this is happening in kherson itself. without connection. here you see a traffic light. one does not work. the next one says it is red for a quarter. the connection and the electric one are still there.

this is what the governor's office looks like, everything possible was stolen from the kherson administration, the head of the judiciary was robbed by looters the day before yesterday, everything was in order. this was kherson. meanwhile, the kremlin has prepared several new methods for russian propaganda

, which indicate exactly how to talk about the situation in kherson, this is done in order to prepare public opinion in russia for the fact that the city may be abandoned, reports the russian publication meduza , two such methods are at the disposal of journalists in one of the documents states that the kherson direction is said to be the most difficult for the russian army at the current stage of the special operation, propagandists are offered to explain such a situation by the fact that it is vital in ukraine to demonstrate the combat capability of its terrorist formations, that it was said to ask for new help from the west, well, let's see how it will be articulated further away in the kremlin, but what is this everything means just now now let's talk on the connection the sentence comes out - this is the operational command south natalya humenyuk good evening glory to ukraine good evening heroes thanks, you just recently reported that the russian army in kherson oblast is preparing for uh, resorting to informational blackmail of civilians and uh, still forcing them to leave this territory, why are they doing this if the kremlin’s proteges themselves have already

left kherson oblast, the right bank, and kherson itself well, not everyone left, you don’t need to stab yourself, you need to know that they left the troops who will hold the defense of kherson directly, they gathered there units of the so-called hmm fresh mobilized, which are arranged from the first lines of defense and around in the regional center itself, the elite troops and the guards and the paratroopers are concentrated, that is, the regular troops, which are more prepared and probably better trained for what further developments can be expected of them, but the fact that they are preparing defenses on the left bank indirectly proves that they realize that they are unlikely to hold the right bank, but they have to fight because they have to show at least to their leaders

, the military and political leadership of the aggressor country, that they tried something, but please tell me after all, from your point of view and according to the information you have, the russian troops are still leaving kherson oblast, or are they now creating all the conditions, so you understand that there are enough of them there in order to stratify and partially pretend that they are leaving and how much they they are pushing it loudly as much as they are trying to demonstrate it demonstratively and show it to everyone, this again emphasizes the fact that this is the informational narrative they need, because they want everyone to believe that they are leaving, they are almost gone, but this may mean a trap for some a certain development of events according to such an insidious scenario when they try to pretend that

they are not there, that only the civilian population remains there, those who were not influenced from the regional center itself and lure our effective units there in order to weaken our er, our power, our pressure, but we yes yes yes yes yes we understand exactly what they are and realize that the strategy of our actions must be balanced and built on intellectual components and how far are the ukrainian forces currently from kherson and well when they could or could to go to the regional center, the terms of the military operation are not passed, i apologize, i did not understand. these are the terms of the military operation, and they are not announced well. and what then do the ukrainian forces need? or rather, what is missing? it is possible now that it makes sense to announce this in the conditions. when, after all, ukraine receives and and asks, but

still receives some kind of military aid from partner countries, and this is not enough to carry out a successful counteroffensive in the kherson region, such negotiations are not conducted in an open format and it is not announced that we are weak in what tell everyone in the conditions of a hybrid war of information resistance er tell everyone what we are weak in and what we lack we have a need for certain armaments with partners this work is well established and what do you think then or from what you know if now russian troops a-a will be redeployed will be on the left bank e-e what can force them hm to leave the kherson region in general because i understand that at the moment it is about kherson and the right bank, not only about the right bank, it is about the liberation of all of our territories, we are constantly counting on

such a short-term perspective, but you will soon understand that when events developed in kharkiv oblast, no one even understood what short-term strategy would make us liberate the territory up to the border . therefore, these are the conditions that are announced at closed military meetings, uh, now we have all in order to correctly calculate the use of one's forces, and only after it takes place, then one can talk about it, reveal and announce it, in particular , in an open format. i also saw the statement operational command south about the fact that propaganda broadcasting has disappeared in kherson and ukrainian radio has returned, you can confirm this with certainty because i am on the background of the tablet of the operational command south and this is exactly our narrator, which we announced so that people understand that there really is uh, we have the opportunity to

broadcast there uh, already ukrainian broadcasting and uh, hmm, at the same time, the propaganda channels are disappearing, and they cut down the towers, trying to deprive people of access to open information without calculating their efforts, let's say so, the marauding instinct took over and they take away everything they can take out and that which is not even subject to such er such dismantling, that is why at the moment it is really complicated for them er, this is the very processing of people with propaganda because we block they broadcast gradually even mobile operators to work in certain regions of kherson oblast ukrainian elya humenyuk spokeswoman of the operational command south and yuriy sobolevskyi, the first deputy

chairman of the kherson regional council, joins our broadcast i understand by phone good evening i greet you, what is the current situation in kherson in the background today we saw information that the kherson regional administration is empty, the people who cooperated with the russian authorities in the region have already left the humanitarian situation is very difficult because it is now very difficult to supply both products and medicines to kherson because the occupiers are not really worried about it much now and if before people solved this issue bring in food and medicines and essential goods thanks to a private watercraft, now all logistics are prohibited navigation on the dnieper and there is no such possibility, this creates an additional,

humanitarian, let's say, disaster to the disaster that already existed well, please tell me today they saw that these photos are from the building of the regional administration. i understand that the regional council was also located there, that's right , in the same building, so in fact, this is the video that is broadcast, it is mostly on the third floor not everything is in the regional council, we would, i know the situation there, two days ago they removed the physical security from the building, and until now, in fact, they have not used this building even after there was cotton in the building of the appeals court of the kherson region that is where the so-called occupation government was located. they recognized that it was very dangerous to be in the building of the regional administration. in fact, they did not use it. and do we have any idea how many

people were left in kherson ? you know, it is difficult to say the exact number because people in fact, they left kherson at the beginning of the occupation, fleeing from this russian peace at any opportunity. now we can say whether there are still 680,000 people there if we choose not only kherson and music in a different way, the settlements of the right bank , that is, if i understood the russians correctly, after all forces and the russian so-called authorities have partially left kherson, and the ukrainian armed forces have not yet arrived there. and to describe the conditions in which these people stayed there for the sake of understanding, what are the conditions and i don't know what the risks are when there was such a situation when some of them left. well , anyway, humenyuk said that not until the end, someone stayed there, and the others have not yet arrived. i completely

agree with mrs. natalya, they did not leave, in fact it is impossible to say that they have already left kherson , they took them out of let's say this is the leadership of the civilian occupation. they are mostly located now in genichesk or skadovskoe, but this is not about their military units under which they are. well, it's hard for me to say. i'm not a military expert. how many of them are still there? in the right bank of kherson oblast, we see some manipulations, probably a rotation, but what exactly is happening, i am sure that only our military knows there, they perfectly understand what the actual situation is there and already assessing it, they are making a decision on how to act now. to monitor what is happening in the liberated areas of the kherson region, if so, to summarize, it is something similar to buchi and irpinchyna raisin

, is there any peculiarity in the south that has left its mark, well, it is connected with the occupation of these of settlements in the kherson region, ms. humenyuk . let me give you the floor. in the course of stabilization measures, law enforcement agencies are working, collecting the evidence base , selecting information about everything that happened, interviewing local residents, including and at the moment , i want to appeal to everyone to be very careful in but what to return in the morning for the population such

a fortification in october, they are still under very heavy shelling, they do not recommend returning there, thank you very much unfortunately, time ran out natalya gumenyuk spokesperson of the south operational command yuriy sobolevskyi first deputy chairman of the kherson regional council well, that's the end of the svoboda life program today's tomorrow we will be back on the air again well, i traditionally encourage you to subscribe to the pages of radio svoboda on the internet goal dear tv viewers to your