has been trying to break through the defenses for months without success and i think that it will never succeed, but against the background of such zombies and so connected to the assaults , the question arises whether there is some economic subtext in the actions of the wagnerites, because there is such an opinion that what the wagnerites actually are led by prigozhin, they have some economic profit from the captured territory in the future, we are in touch with oksana ishchuk, the executive director of the strategy 21 global studies center, as well as an expert on oil and gas issues, ms. oksana. welcome to the espresso channel, finally the connection does not interfere with us actually, i have one question, and our viewers, because we have repeatedly heard about the fact that prigozhyn throws his fighters into the hellish meat grinder in order to gain control over an

area related to the production of shale gas or simply gas in the future, and that's what it is it seems that one component in the future business of the beauty in this segment is to explain. is this true or not and what exactly is this war zone? is there really such a temptation to conduct such gas uh-uh well in order to refute this hypothesis that wagner is fighting on in donbas, for economic purposes, first of all, it is necessary to understand what areas are there, what gas deposits are there, in the territory of the kharkiv and donetsk regions , there is the yuzivska area, which is an area that is poorly explored because of this. because of the fact that there is gas , it is lies in compacted sandstone rocks, it is exactly what is popularly called shale gas

, and it exists in principle in very similar geological formations as ordinary natural gas, but the difference is that it is very difficult to extract it and it is found in low-permeability rocks, that is, the extraction of this gas requires the use of hydraulic fracturing and horizontal drilling technology. this is actually the use of western technology, and this is what ukraine lacked for the full exploration of this area when there was still a favorable security environment in 2012. to western investors, in particular to the shell company, which won the competition for the development of this area and as of 2014, the shell company managed to drill only two wells, but then the war in donbas began and for non-parking reasons, they left, well, they left

ukraine, they left this area, they stopped all work, but what you need to understand is that, first of all, gas lies there at very, very high depths, up to 6,000 m, for comparison, for example, gas in the fields of western siberia, it is precisely the resource base for the a-a of europe for the supply of gas in europe lies at depths of 1,500, 3,000 m, so its extraction is much cheaper in russia in traditional fields, and here, in addition to the fact that 6,000 m western application is required technologies, and the interesting moment is that russia is now deprived of these technologies after 2014, after the occupation of crimea and the invasion of donbas, the united states and the european union adopted sanctions regarding,

in particular, the transfer of high -tech equipment to russia and regarding the work of oil and gas production service companies in russia, namely, the croatian technology that is used and should be used for gas production on the yuziov square, it is also affected, it has become the critical area that has been affected in russia, because in this field of hydraulic fracturing, there are about 90 companies that were in russia, they were western and they all left, that is, there is very little time to say so, one question, that is, after our victory, we will extract gas from this field and it will actually be our gas and no the russians will not have anything to do with this because they will invade their territory, i think the conclusion is true, yes, that’s exactly why, in order to develop, it is necessary to say that there is no economic basis for wagner, and

all the actions that are currently taking place in the donbas are they have an exclusively military character and are conditioned by military logic. thank you for these professional explanations to our dachas. i will remind you that oksana ishchuk, executive director of the center for global studies strategy 21, was on the air on the espresso channels. these were the main highlights of the military results of this day, and more international and economic news later from my colleagues . stay tuned to the espresso channel. thank you very much to serhiy zgurtsu, director of the defense express agency, leading the sections on the military results of the day. thank you to his guests who told more about it. it was very interesting. listen, of course, about this aviation of putin , which he continues to lose in this war that he started against ukraine, and before handing over the floor to yuri fizer, i would like to say a few words about what the kyiv international institute of sociology

held today, well, not today, about today he is made public the survey research that he conducted earlier and here is an interesting question put by experts to our fellow citizens, they took people from 18 to 69 years old, so in principle, this is almost everyone who lives in ukraine, except for children, perhaps. well, people are significantly of an older age, and so they asked, what will happen in ukraine in 10 years, the question was formulated roughly like this, what will happen in ukraine and ukraine in 10 years, you know, we were always promised that it would be better under yanukovych, they always said that now there is no money, but in the next budget they will one day we will be in nato and one day we will be in the eu but there were no reasons and people generally lived their lives and perceived these promises and these prospects as pre-election certain fantasies of the candidates, but here they asked people, what will happen in 10 years and what was the answer of ukrainians who are currently going through the biggest war

in the history of the second world war, at least in europe, almost 90% of ukrainians believe that in 10 years ukraine will be a prosperous country of the european union. i want to tell you that it is inspiring, in fact it is inspiring that despite the terrible problems, ukrainians believe that we will prosper. yuriy federa , i hope he also believes. evening to you, vasyl. good evening to everyone who joined our broadcast. so, today i will talk about this in brussels. they said when ukraine can become a member of the european union. putin may not come to the g20 summit. another in a moment in the report on ukraine section, but i will start with this one, after the armed forces of ukraine win a convincing victory in the

battle for kherson, there may be a chance for the first real concrete ukrainian-russian the negotiations about this were written today by our coat of arms of the italian publication lari publica with reference to nato materials in the north atlantic alliance believe that the defeat of the russians near kherson will have a huge political and diplomatic significance because this victory will open the way for the armed forces of ukraine to the sea of ​​azov, according to nato experts, returning kherson meant would be an opportunity to forever change the course of the war and start negotiations not from a position of weakness but from a position of strength well, what are we waiting for this decisive battle for kherson, i hope that it will be very fast and the victory in it will be just as fast for us, of course, ukraine can become a member of the european union already by 2024, and this seems to be a very real process today, in an interview with the german publication uel tam zon, so

said european commissioner for good neighborhood and enlargement policy oliver according to him, the top leaders of our country still need to do their homework in brussels, according to mr. european commissioner, they understand that it will probably not be possible to do everything, but the basic key points will still be agreed they can, however, it will take one to two years, said the european commissioner, but the national security adviser to the president of the united states of america, jackson, could talk about ukraine with the secretary of the russian security council, mykola patroshev, and putin 's foreign affairs adviser, yuri ushakov. own sources, according to published information, during such conversations, mr. salvan tried to dissuade russia from further escalation of the situation in ukraine, in particular with the use of nuclear weapons. the conversation took place journalists in jornon island did not

inform the administration of president joe biden and did not comment on this information either. but in iran they are lying when they claim that they supplied their drones to russia even before the start of the full-scale invasion on february 24 this year on their page in the us special representative for iran, robert melli, wrote on the twitter network of micrologists, according to him, this summer tehran sent dozens of drones to russia that were used against the civilian population the president of ukraine gave the following advice to the leadership of the islamic republic quote: when confronted with the evidence, they need a new policy, not a new story well, it's really not bad, you don't need to invent any new stories about these drones . i just need to change the attitude towards all this and stop supplying drones to russia. putin

can not to come to the g20 summit, which will be held next week in indonesia, at least that is the strong feeling of the president of indonesia, joko video, he said about it today in an interview with a newspaper cool cheltimes in sharm el-sheikh, egypt. where did he come to participate in the climate conference, where did he get this feeling from, the president of indonesia did not say. at the summit well, at the same time, the joker also emphasized that the g20 should not be a meeting where political issues will be decided here. he said that there will be decided more specifically economic issues, and here is the pope. this is the

impression i have. he began to retell the kremlin methods and, to my great regret, said a lot of unnecessary things. returning the day before after his visit to bahrain, the pontiff said that the great russian people do not have cruelty. crimes in ukraine are committed by mercenaries, according to him, who go to the war as an adventure well, francis himself respects the russian people very much, and then i did not understand the statement at all: the holy father says that he respects russian humanism and at the same time the pope he said again what he has already said many times that his throne is doing everything possible to help end the russian war in ukraine as soon as possible. well, that's it. that's the position of the pope. i personally didn't understand it. he was absolutely this and says that he is making every effort to do so. so that there would be peace in ukraine and the end of the

war, and then he talks about it at all. it is not clear about russian humanism, about the humanism of those people who came to our country, invaded our country, kill our people, and he calls it humanism well, that’s right, and this uncle, frankly speaking, i didn’t understand very well at first, the self-proclaimed president of belarus oleksandr lukashenko congratulated all the citizens of the country on the so -called anniversary of the great october socialist revolution, which the civilized world considers a coup and a disaster, and according to the words of the once successful head of a collective farm, yes the so-called revolution became an event that marked the beginning of a new era in the history of the belarusian people, who got the opportunity to create a national state on their land end with quotes well, later lukashenko gave a master class and chopping firewood, because on the occasion of this, belarusians have a holiday, so to speak, a day off. later,

he sat down journalists next to him and read political information on his favorite topic. what exactly did he say? let's listen in direct language. if they were, you know , they can't even put out a fire in their own house . america but here americans are only afraid of nuclear weapons because they can fly there, nuclear weapons will not be used. what is the nature of the land? what was the

nature of everything? what was the catastrophe ? we have preserved the maravetian language, the people laugh, they are ready to start a war, they started a war, then everything will be a war, everything is sleeping, the europeans need to wake up to stop the war. well, i'm sorry , i gave the wrong language. the one i should have given should have been a little shorter, but much shorter and lukashenko should have he should not talk about how he offered the wood that he chopped to western countries, in particular, to citizens of western countries, in particular, in lithuania and estonia, who, according to him, have nothing to warm themselves in the cold winter, and now they are looking for this firewood it should have been such a direct speech, let's move on , humanity is driving on the highway to climate hell, and our foot

is on the gas pedal. this statement was made by the secretary general of the united nations, antonio guterres, at today's summit in sharm el-sheikh, egypt. according to him, humanity is facing a turning point, and therefore it is extremely important to conclude something like a climate solidarity pact, according to this document, countries should undertake to make maximum efforts to comply with the agreement on the reduction of harmful emissions into the atmosphere well, the richer countries of the world should help the less wealthy to switch to renewable energy sources as soon as possible, because according to mr. general secretary antonio hotelier, the global temperature will continue to rise and soon climate chaos may become irreversible , how much would you like it not to happen climatic chaos, well, and finally in dubai, and this is the

united arab emirates, a skyscraper was on fire, so far there is no information about whether there are any victims, it is known that the fire started around half past three at night, the fire spread very quickly through the building, and within a few minutes, every floor of the skyscraper was on fire. fortunately, the firefighters managed to extinguish the fire very quickly. after an hour and a half, the fire was no longer visible, but this incident caused concern about the safety of high-rise buildings in dubai, especially considering that this the house is located in the immediate vicinity of the tallest skyscraper in the burkhal world, that is, in the very center, and that is how it burned. prepare for tomorrow's broadcast to tell you more tomorrow, don't switch now, our broadcast continues, join the community with a ukrainian

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hryvnia you send, they will give their silencers and the fire extinguishers will be handed over to the frontline soldiers who defend ukraine on the first line of fire, let's get closer to victory together. glory to ukraine , we continue our great ether reminds me of my name vasyl zima and we have been involved in conversations with the princely people's deputy of ukraine mr. mykola welcomes you, i see that there is already a statement from the president's office regarding possible negotiations between ukraine and russia or putin and zelensky, i will announce it later because i want to ask first of all well, i am asking you to announce it to comment, because first of all i want to ask about the visit of you and your colleagues from the verkhovna rada of ukraine to the republic of china, or to taiwan, or the most important thing is what they went with, what they saw , what they came with, here it is important to understand which impressions, which are, so to speak, the dry residue of this visit. well, i have the honor of being the co-chairman of a large

organization, which is called, however, it is an international organization that unites parliamentarians from different countries who take care of the situation in china and not only in china, it concerns and what is happening in hong kong and violations of human rights there and violations and possible threats to taiwan and here we, as representatives of this organization, were in taiwan eh. it is an extremely interesting country eh. there are two parties there, some believe that they are part of china is simply a democratic part, and therefore, regardless of the deceased, there are people who are fighting for ivan to become an independent state, one way or another , this is a democratic society where there is a multi-party system, where the standard of living is very high, where many microchips are produced, we know that they flew there not so long ago now the visit of the minister of vertan is being prepared there. so we, together with deputies from european countries from germany, the

netherlands, great britain, kosovo, the czech republic, visited taiwan, had a meeting with the president with the prime minister with his parents and other officials visited to support them, they are in love with ukraine, they look at us there, there are ukrainian flags everywhere, they watch us fight with the aggressor. they are also under threat from china, which all the time wants to annex them would not mind joining if china was a democratic country, but unfortunately the chinese are actually an autocratic country. and everywhere in the world we see such a war of autocracy with democracies. iran, which gives drones, is also an autocratic country, so we were there to to express my solidarity with them, i talked a lot about cooperation with ukraine, and they help ukraine, they have allocated a budget, they will help even more. for that, we are extremely grateful to them for the sad irony of fate. on the day when

he returned, a volunteer died in taiwan, who fought battalions of the carpathian sich came to defend ukraine. we have many taiwanese. all the secrets are supported there. the ukrainian flag is the best souvenir that can be. that is why it was a very interesting trip for me. now i will move on to conversations that have already been going on, well, the discussion has been going on for several days, did the united states really ask the president's office, at least for now, not to talk about the fact that negotiations with putin are impossible now, well, they put it in the american publication and that's how it's being discussed, the president's office answered that the ex-president is not against negotiations in general in principle, but there is a certain position that first russia withdraws troops from ukraine well, what about the president's office, let's not categorically say no, because the alleged negotiations between moscow in prices and measures are moving. it seems that ukraine has to wait, and how do you evaluate this answer given today by the image of the president in the post of mr. podolyak, well, it was given by mr. podolyak, who is a freelance

adviser, and i am generally very skeptical of people who do not hold any positions, despite all their talents and possibly the validity of their statements, but you can trust the statements of those people who work in positions who are responsible for their work . the fact that western countries will get tired of supporting ukraine all the time, that sooner or later they will push ukraine to negotiate, this is a question of our subjectivity, how ready are we to stand our own position and liberate our land, it is obvious that, unfortunately, since we are not were preparing for this war as we should have been preparing with our own weapons. we don't have them and we use weapons that our western partners provide us . these are funds.

are highly dependent on western partners, and western partners are society, and we should work to convince western societies not to surrender a single meter of ukrainian land, throw the enemy outside the borders of ukraine and then talk about something . in western societies, we don’t lead because we lead too little, we spend money on telethons on cheap pr for corruption instead of spending them on really high-quality diplomacy and the promotion of ukrainian interests, and that’s why even the possibility of the appearance of such articles and such opinions, especially on the eve of the elections to the representative bodies of the united states of america, the very appearance of such statements is a very bad signal for us. they know about what is happening in ukraine, their knowledge somehow differs from what they do not tell about what is happening in ukraine, because i

understand that they still have it through the lens of mass media or other sources well, they are not in ukraine, or in principle there is an adequate understanding of adequate information coming to uh. look, if we talk about the war, they understand that russia is the aggressor, that she is leading, attacked independent ukraine, occupied part of the territory, and that it should not be like this in the modern world, if we say about what is happening in the internal political life of ukraine, of course they do not know, uh, it is good or bad, because if they knew that freedom of speech is limited in us and, as today, it is essentially nationalized according to the communist the enterprise without any consent of the owners just come and take the enterprise because the authorities wanted to overlap with the war, so i think that uh, well, this definitely did not help our support, because our support will be possible only when we really demonstrate the best examples of democrats of the rule of law so far inside, we demonstrate something else, but so that we don't demonstrate inside, you know, to all my questions there to my questions what is your relationship between the government and the

opposition eh i always answer what putin wants kill everyone and the position of power is therefore external we must all speak with one voice, but it must still be the voice of democracy and not the voice of authoritarianism, or else no one will support us, well, otherwise , external actions should manifest themselves in this way, for example , many people asked me in various interviews why for a very long time they did not vote for the resolution on the games that in china are being persecuted, in fact genocide, the last time they actually voted. this is very good and many other questions people ask when they understand what is really happening, those who understand what is really happening in ukraine they would like us to be a really worthy country to join the european union because they want to see us there. i will ask about our budget. there is a lot of suffering and, well, there was a lot of suffering. it is clear that by 2023, the marathons have already been said by huge the money is allocated in fact. and also for roads, they say that i don’t drive on the roads of ukraine now. people say that some roads are being built, as if it can be justified.

the question is, is it possible that the money is needed somewhere else ? how do you evaluate this budget and what do you think? does it have prospects of being implemented oh, you know well , of course not, because we depend on aid, that is, it will be implemented if we receive aid, well, allocate funds for cheap propaganda inside the country of some political force instead of making a really high-quality speech instead of really making everything to promote and support our culture inside the country, from my point of view, gypsies. well, when we drive along the road from lviv to kyiv and see that they are removing the absolutely normal top layer of asphalt, which it is not damaged at all and they put the same one on top, you just understand that it is just someone taking money for themselves and this generally happens in many places in ukraine, and right away we are asking for weapons and other help from our western partners, it is clear what to trust - they will not give us this protect well, because they are not protecting the ukrainian government.

they are protecting the ukrainian people. they are protecting us as a state, but each of us must meet that high level of trust, because if this is not the case, this help will be less - and in our i am critical, but you know this is a difficult question because it can be answered in different ways. if it were just words, then you can comment, and then you say that these are the words of the pope, who is the needle of the vatican and the head of the roman catholic church , and everyone here is already careful they are starting to talk about it well, but as politics, i will ask, the pope while in bahrain, if i am not mistaken, said that russia is a peace-loving people there, dostoevsky mentioned how he promoted christian values ​​in literature in general, and that he also loves russian the peoples and the ukrainian people and they are so peace-loving and this dove of peace is again, but this again, you know, cuts to the heart of ukrainians because someone very correctly wrote on facebook that if, god forbid, something like this happened in the vatican, what happened in buch, that's when we should have listened about the peace-loving russian, uh, the russian people. how do you assess it? this

is not the essence of the statement. and why are they being made? and is it also the promotion of russian narratives by two groups? the pope is not a politician after all. i would not consider him a politician because he is quite a lot. spoke and continues to speak about support for ukraine and ukrainians, now there is a meeting with the head of the ukrainian greek catholic church, who brought him part of the mine and i think will explain the situation in ukraine, it is clear that such words sound very painful for ukrainians well, tell the jews during the second world war that the germans peace-loving people, we understand that there are different germans, there is such a situation and there are good and bad, and there were communists, anti-communists , fascists and anti-fascists, but tell the jews whom they exterminated that the germans are a peace-loving people, it's the same what to say to the ukrainians now, what the russians did to the people, when they atone for their guilt, they will imprison their criminals, they will punish these murderers, rapists who are destroying ukraine, they will build a democratic country

, then we will be able to say that they must have become a peace-loving people, today no one says that all germans are not a peace-loving people it's true, but to say this during the second world war i think it would be unfair, the situation is the same here, it's just that everything should be said there on time and where it corresponds to the reality and the situation and well, if they the main thing is that they need to repent and for now when the majority of this people supports the occupation of ukraine and all sociological studies show this. what kind of peace can we talk about? i thank you very much. and we already have time to talk about money during the war, in any case, without money , the war is not that it cannot be won, it cannot even be conducted properly