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support the army saves the lives of our soldiers and brings our victory closer glory to ukraine is a program verdict my name is serhiy rudenko good day to everyone and good health today 257 a day of heroic resistance of the ukrainian people to the russian occupiers during the past day, the ukrainian military repelled attacks by russians near eight settlements in donetsk and luhansk regions, at the same time the ukrainian army destroyed, destroyed the ammunition warehouse in the direction of skadou, kherson and about ten other settlements in the region were left without electricity and water due to damage by the russians to a high-voltage power line . volodymyr zelenskyi said that the complicity of the iranian regime in the russian theory against ukraine will be punished, meanwhile, the russian

army will continue to lose manpower and equipment in ukraine as of the morning of november 7, russia has already lost 76,460 people in ukraine in the last day alone, the armed forces of ukraine destroyed 530 orks, since the beginning of the great war, the russians have already lost in ukraine 2,771 tanks, 5,630 armored combat vehicles, 1,782 artillery systems, 391 rocket salvo systems, 202 air defense systems, 277 aircraft, 260 helicopters, 4,199 units of automotive equipment, 16 ships, boats, 351 cruise missiles, 1,472 drones , and the largest losses of 157 units of special equipment during the day, the enemy suffered on the lyman bakhmut and avdiiv directions that the pacific marines are dying in the donbas, russia wants negotiations and

chvk wagner is creating a militia in the kursk and belgorod regions, we will talk about all this for the next hour, today, place valentyn batrak, military expert, director of the army research center for conversion and disarmament, mr. valentyn, good day, good health to you, and thank you for joining our conversation, she serhiy, congratulations, thank you for the invitation, i am always happy to be here on the air. thank you, mr. valentin, so let's start our conversation with the topic that has been discussed for the past eight months and the topic of possible negotiations ukraine and russia all the time, this topic finds a new development and is interpreted differently by the russian federation, although we know that according to the decision of the meeting of the national security and

defense council, such negotiations cannot be held between ukraine and russia. the united states of america calls on zelensky to demonstrate readiness for negotiations with putin this is reported by the washington post administration and joe biden privately calls on ukrainian leaders to declare their readiness to negotiate with russia how do you do you think there could be such negotiations? if so, what could these negotiations be about in general, then this is a very difficult topic. and indeed, the mentioned article by the washington post is very bad for ukraine . i want to add that today, in addition to the washington post , wall street appeared johnny information about the publication that sullivan is conducting negotiations or they say about working meetings, but probably these are negotiations with patroshev and with the assistant of the president of russia yury mushukov. it seems to me that the issue

is being resolved there in several, several planes the first is that the americans are probing, but it is still possible to replace putin carefully yes, and to what extent it could be a way out of the situation for russia , because, well, i will try to give an answer now, whether negotiations are possible, but it is simply impossible to say yes or no, yes, because on the one hand, putin and his accomplices have crossed all limits in human crimes, crimes against humanity, and those atrocities and the terrorism that was introduced against ukraine, especially in ukraine, from october 10 to this time, by the way

and we may also have a worsening of the situation related to the receipt of ballistic missiles by a veteran , so the situation does not look completely simple. moreover , on the other hand, there are additional challenges. i mean the elections in the united states and the possibility of strengthening the republicans and republicans many not only among not only among the congressmen themselves but also among the voters and about this. last week there was also a publication with a full detailed analysis about the fact that the desire of the republicans themselves fell to six percent was to support ukraine and to support weapons

, that is why we are a critical dependency. it can be. it can be. i would say that this is a serious negative argument. well, it is impossible to say at the moment, but now it seems to me that the biden administration is looking for some possible an outcome that will be more or less suitable for all parties well, but there is, let’s say, and i would say that there are interesting nuances of today’s events in general. i mean that if the armed forces will move powerfully now kherson is preparing for street fights and how about me the main thing that the russians want now is, well, what the russians want now in the kremlin is to gain time to gain

time to slow down the offensive of the ukrainian armed forces, because if the armed forces reach crimea, in fact , everything can fall down in russia and there will not even be any need the negotiations will simply be on the aa , the natural way will be replacement or replacement of the political change of the political regime in the political system in russia. this is the situation, but what could be the signs, well, first of all, ukraine began to receive funds ppu today ministers of different countries also came, and he informed me that the norwegian-american systems had arrived. the aspids are spanish systems, and i think that and

further. if solutions are found very quickly, for example, obtaining a large number of artillery installations, quickly the legendary american volcanoes and, let's say, the german cheetahs, which showed themselves very powerfully. actually, against the iranian drones, then the strengthening of ukraine and the acceleration of the solution of these problems can happen created by putin's regime, so many things now , er, i would say for er, there are many factors that influence this process. i think that both sides will take time, and i think that it is very difficult to

imagine that, at least in the coming weeks, such negotiations can to happen because for ukraine , even if the west forces it to turn a blind eye to the terrorism and banditry of putin's criminal regime, and to all these crimes, the only compromise version in such a compromise can be cleansing from the occupying occupiers what kind of territories are they? captured after february 24, 2022. this is exactly how the question can arise. and if it really does arise, then it can be a starting condition for some kind of discussion, but here we see that it is

due to a compromise on the part of ukraine to refuse to give up for the time being somehow to freeze the issue of evil in the russians, this is one story and the second is the issue of crimea and donbas, yes, it is possible such a story can actually happen, but on the part of russia, it can to be and the withdrawal of troops is completely er and i do not rule out what may happen putin's replacement is more than that. now, professional circles are talking about what has been created, even three such possibilities are being considered, where the next putin may appear, first of all, it is a circle of special services, it is the fsb and its own which in principle

is headed by patrushev and bortnikov and the second second is such a powerful group - it is prigozhin and kadyrov who turned out to be against the background of the moral destruction of the military, so to speak, the moral destruction of the military. we achieved that all the negatives were absorbed by the military, their helplessness, their unwillingness to wage war, er, besides, the beauty here made several big statements about what he was creating in the wagner pvk, today the information that he learned from interfering in the elections in the united states, that is, he behaves like a thief in

law yes, who wants to become even stronger and who, uh, apparently offers putin such a security program to physically protect him, and it is possible to protect his power in the event of a mutiny . and the third group - this is an army cola. well, but army circle i don't believe in what we say there, the same surovik well, it can be perceived as an authoritative person in russia, because there is no reason for this, because the killing of civilians in other countries, in syria and in ukraine, is unlikely to give reasons to see in the harsh cinema of this person , it is truer to consider this non-human as some kind of future politician, that's why there is no

obvious leader among the military, and there are many people who have compromised themselves because of that. actually, it is not known how the situation will develop, but one more what a story it is impossible not to mention that turkey has forbidden the ships of the russian pacific fleet to enter the black sea, and this is basically a signal that turkey is closer to us than to putin. what about flirting with putin and meetings - it still belongs to erdogan's efforts to score some points before the presidential elections, and in particular to complete the construction of a nuclear power plant. well, turkey is 45% dependent on russian energy sources. therefore, it is clear. why erdogan at all, but when it came to the red lines, as we can see cardigan did not take such a step and did not allow

russian ships to enter the black sea and create such a military imbalance. instead, we know that the ic of the cadre of the united states, led by the american aircraft carrier, is now in the mediterranean sea. these are also very powerful steps that show that there is a huge reorganization of the power of means in the world and that, of course , the danger for everyone is increasing and the possibility of war going beyond the borders of russia and ukraine is also increasing. this should also be recognized, especially against the background of today to the same walty johnny, the american admiral , the admiral of the united states navy, richards admitted that the united states is losing american military deterrence, this is also

a recognition that is quite dangerous, quite problematic, it shows that unprecedented things are happening in the world and we are uh somewhere uh there is a very dangerous border on hm, and what , uh, the third world war is quite possible, and that is exactly why, uh, the americans actually livened up and strengthened these working contacts with russia. in a conversation with french president manuel macron , according to the newspaper daily mail, he mentioned the nuclear bombings of hiroshima and nagasaki - this is written by the newspaper with reference to its sources in the administration of the french president, according to sources - this bothered the french president, according to sources of the newspaper, in the conversation, vladimir putin said that it

is not necessary to attack large cities in order to win. well, once again, the deputy head of the russian security council, dmitry medvedev, who quite often talks about doomsday for ukraine, said that that kyiv's threats to resume the nuclear program became one of the reasons for conducting a special military operation, although in reality when it all started we remember that the main topic was to help the so-called lpr and dpr and this program about which they... will unravel this whole topic, it was related to the speech of volodymyr zelenskyi at the munich security conference, where zelenskyi simply said: if the budapest memorandum does not work, it means that we have obligations from our side regarding the creation of nuclear weapons there so we also don’t have any, but the propaganda channels of the russian federation are now talking about nuclear escalation in europe. andriy klintsevich - this is a

russian military expert talking about aircraft carrier groups, a nuclear submarine, the rott islands, a ship of the day , stealth planes, and let’s see the russian answer. that jekselevan, who came to kiev , held negotiations with zelenskiy, his main task is to stop the nuclear scale different weapons, but they themselves, therefore , the stakes are there, they have already sent two aircraft carrier groups to europe, eh, arrived in europe, eh, that means, eh, heavy, you can call it a nuclear submarine rodailon with 20 24 warheads, eh, that means eh triden-2, which

is an intercontinental ballistic missile with a huge number of separable nuclear warheads, and an aircraft of 2 days, which is sending these conversations about the fact that they will transfer tactical nuclear weapons to europe ahead of schedule, for its transfer, they are sending their planes invisible in 35 in 22 well, they increase the degrees, how do they consider it, they send us a signal that you guys don't think to do something wrong, here we are here ai-ai-ai with a club but they don't understand that it always causes this is exactly the same proportional effect, that is, the russians, who for the past nine months threatened all education and ukraine with a nuclear attack, are now talking about the fact that the americans are threatening them, although for the americans, nuclear weapons are a weapon of deterrence in this situation against the russian federations. do you think that the americans are convincing in their conversation behind the russians regarding the possible

future use of nuclear weapons by moscow against ukraine? well, the americans think a little bit. it seems to me differently. they mostly believe that the era of nuclear deterrence is still anyway, it goes down in history and er now what is the point really because now and this war in ukraine, the russian war has demonstrated that the latest er cheaper technologies that are used en masse in en masse use this is not the first time i'm talking about mosquito strategies and even the last episode in the sevastopol bay, where naval killer drones were operating eh, they achieve a much

greater effect than powerful eh expensive big weapons eh well, nuclear weapons are not when it comes to nuclear weapons in general then there can only be, um, really some kind of threats. we remember that during the holo- during the cold war, only in the 62nd year, during the crimean crisis, there were such threats, and the rest of the time, in fact, there were no direct threats of nuclear weapons, and that that putin resorted to this is rather than everything indicates that the world should reconsider the philosophy of the presence and control of nuclear weapons in general. because putin violated the nuclear balance in general, now let's say not only there, iran

seeks, let's say, to obtain nuclear weapons, but recently even poland demanded nuclear weapons nuclear status as far as ukraine is concerned, it is definitely a fake, because after getting rid of the nuclear status, ukraine never dreamed of it. on the air this is simply an attempt to create a hyped topic somehow propagating itself because a person who has at least any knowledge of this matter understands that it is impossible for ukraine to create nuclear weapons, it is impossible politically and economically, and so

on, but it is possible for ukraine to create a non-nuclear deterrent shield, for example, let's say a missile shield, this is our way, and when we say, russia itself will know that the period of confrontation is still ahead for us after our victorious end of this war, and when russia will know that we have is there are five or eight thousand different missiles, the rhetoric will not be the same as it was, why? in april, the deputy secretary of defense of the united states. i won't say her name,

but she said that it was necessary to provide ukraine with such weapons that allowed hitting airfields, say , on the territory of russia, which are based on these planes that, uh, hmm, bombard cities and of the civilian population, but very quickly these statements were removed and they stopped broadcasting them, and the only reason, of course, is the fear of blackmail, this nuclear blackmail, but all the same, the issue of cheap technologies comes to the fore, and we see many episodes of the military. we remember the saudi arabia in september 19 when 10 killer drones attacked an oil refinery and disabled it. these are very cheap drones and

were used by a paramilitary group. at the same time, saudi arabia had at that time e the american petri missile defense systems, which did not help her, then we remember the situation with how turkey used its drones en masse in syria, and then azerbaijan in the armenian war against armenia and now, by the way, today the center, the analytical center for the defense and security of british russia, seems to have made such a report that ukraine may lose a significant part of its air defense because of these iranian drones. why such a report is because cheap iranian drones are used against

of ukraine and about the ppu system must use missiles, including expensive missiles, in order to shoot down these cheap drones, this is why russia uses them, because it is in fact an asymmetric response, rather, it can be said that it is an iranian asymmetric response, because iran analyzes this way as far as it can, it is possible to act against western weapons, counter-defense systems, uh, with its fairly cheap, quite uh, well, relatively simple, of course, simple defense systems, or shall we say systems uh, so if we take uh if we take ukraine in the future, it will not be about the creation of weapons of mass destruction or

nuclear weapons, but about the mass use of cheaper technologies. and you can give an example: a drone killer with a range of 30-40 km is being developed in ukraine and if such drones had, relatively speaking, 5-10 thousand, then in fact it would be possible to attack all, all russian, let's say yes, groups and very quickly put them out of order, because they are high-precision weapons. yes, they are more expensive than say ammunition but let's remember that the so-called smart munitions that ukraine started to receive from the west cost from $68,000 for one munition, and some munitions there cost up to 100,000 dollars per munition, so if you take such killer drones , they will cost much less

well, it seems to me a powerful job if they will be used en masse, so really if we can't have nuclear weapons, then we have to counter it with an asymmetric response, such a massive use of killer drones. well, no. only killers, it can also be powerful reconnaissance and strike drones, such developments are also in ukraine and it could, well, greatly strengthen the defense potential of the ukrainian state, that 's what it's all about, but the problem is that it can be done only later, and now we are are completely dependent on western weapons and we are forced because of this to listen to

those persistent advices, including the issue that you raised from the very beginning, the possibility of negotiations with russia and follow-up those to the advice of the west due to the fears of the western countries. actually speaking, the west is very afraid of the war outside ukraine and russia. now for ukraine and it is certain that this danger can grow. i am not you