and whether the verkhovna rada even passed something for another enterprise, in particular, well, the law was specially written for the privatization of alpha bank for uah 1, but the nationalization of this, but this has not happened, how long has it been since the adoption of the law, that is, the privatization of alpha bank of mikhail friedman, a billionaire close to putin, no one it is muddy and the truck crane is still muddy or for example oblenergo oleksandr babakov of the vice-speaker of the russian parliament 6 also seems to never be muddy, they work, everything is fine, this is not a strategic branch of electric power please, that's what i'm talking about, the verkhovna rada passed this law in march, that is, it 's about seven months in general, but in addition, the verkhovna rada should have passed a separate bill related to the accelerated confiscation procedure, they didn't do it, although it was supposed to be again, according to government officials, even in the month of september, that is, this has

not been done either, and therefore there are many questions, i would like direct, direct answers to all of this, i would like to see the documents on how it was all done, on which on the basis, i would like to receive an answer as to why we still have a large number of e, including energy facilities. by the way, let's not forget about it, it belongs to the russian oligarchs, which should probably really be nationalized because it is a strategic industry of our state and it is essentially citizens of the occupying state who own all of these, on the other hand, we see that for some reason there are questions regarding other enterprises that work on the territory of ukraine according to ukrainian legislation and which for some reason are currently nationalized there are no answers to how it was done, for what reasons. andriy, i would like to ask. and please tell me if we are waiting, well, maybe not for reactions, but for questions from our partners, uh, maybe reactions from investors. i understand that in these

companies that were well, they are nationalized in this way. let's say that there are also foreign investments, but now i will tell you to what extent they are. well, but at least there are people who also made all the money, who are not ukrainians and at least they are not presidents here in ukraine. and therefore in your opinion the question is a rumor well, at least to the president's office, and it is clear that they will not call the office of the securities commission , because everyone understands it. i will call them, they will ask. and how is that, please? well, such questions will arise first of all from investors to, perhaps , the governments of their countries, and already the governments of these countries through their embassies will really ask questions , that is, it is clear that the embassies of those countries whose citizens have worked in certain companies and which today also have a lot of questions, of course they will ask them

because people need to understand what will be the fate of their assets people need to understand what will happen whether it will be 100% compensation for the post-war state or whether it will be compensation now or whether these enterprises will eventually return to private ownership after the martial law is over uh i think that these people are not what they should be. they should receive these questions because, er, the state in which they invested, the enterprises in which they invested, in fact, the state should have guaranteed the investment, the state should have guaranteed investment, in principle, this is the key to our movement to the european union, investment guarantees - this is this, this is one, this is probably the top 10 questions that were always raised during our movement to the eu, this is how xiaomi is, because it is clear that in

no european state can nationalize this or that enterprise without valid laws for this reason, again if these or other investors that these or other owners did not violate the current legislation and, er, we will say no, they are not accused in the state council. i don't have any there are no questions because there really are materials of the investigation there and there. i think it would be necessary for this enterprise to work for the benefit of ukraine in other ways, it is necessary to ask questions, it is necessary to look and understand for the future. and why was this done, on what grounds, and one more very the big question is whether these owners will then sue in various er-e in different, let's say arbitration courts er-e these in london or in other countries there in other key arbitration

institutions or they will not sue all the courts and why won't they later win billions in compensation from our state. the main thing is that it should be thanks to that. thank you, mr. andriy . i wish you a good day. andriy smoliy is a candidate of legal sciences . he is a public figure. the stoppage of work of the kharkiv metro, well, the temporary one has been stopped, the kharkiv metro reported this on its telegram channels, the movement of the lines, well, three lines of the kharkiv metro, we apologize for the temporary inconveniences are mentioned in the message about the reasons for the suspension of traffic. we will tell you in the future whether the work of the kharkiv metro will resume. well, come on, the city is really a large metro uniting different districts there. now the question is: how do you get to work on business ? well, in any case if this is the situation, we will now talk with oleksandr pavlichenko

, the executive director of the ukrainian helsinki union for human rights. oleksandr, we welcome you, good morning. human rights are being violated in ukraine by the enemy. you can write encyclopedias here. i think that they will be written, but first of all, i would like to ask what it is about, let's say now it's a fresh sport, not even about any torture, atrocities, extrajudicial killings, shootings. that we see this banal issue of deporting people, what is currently happening in the south in light of the offensive of the ukrainian army, the enemies are forcibly deporting people from ukraine and this has been going on for a long time, we have taken out several thousand e-e, not a few hundred officially children in an unknown direction. please tell me these violations. how can they be interpreted and what should they be called? that's right, because we say forced evacuation, deportation . to ukraine

, please. well, let's clarify, in fact, we are talking about war crimes and violations of international humanitarian law, because human rights are actually protected by the state , which is supposed to ensure these rights. where factors have jurisdiction over the occupied territories and, accordingly, ensure proper compliance with cases in these territories, that is why we are talking about the fact that the occupying state must also adhere to certain e-e standards of rules and e-e requirements of the same ones that are defined in the roman statute and the nevsky conventions in fact, i agree on which the russian federation gave the same when we are talking about geneva , because it did not ratify the rome statute in the same way as ukraine also noted such crimes as removal of children, forced deportation

the population because really it may even be due to physical coercion, but it may be economic coercion, it may be psychological coercion, a threat, for example, exposure to shelling of certain territories, and under the threat of such shelling , the population will leave these places where she lives, houses and to leave, but leave not in the direction in which they want, but in the direction in which they will be taken out. this is precisely what this manipulativeness and er deportation is about. let me remind you how it happened in mariupol. when in fact buses who were supposed to take people from the ukrainian side to zaporizhzhia, they were deliberately diverted to the territory there, either in the rostov region or in the occupied territory of the donetsk region, and accordingly,

in fact, people were captured and taken out in that direction, even while showing that it seemed to be going the rescue of these people is especially relevant when the situation is particularly difficult when it comes to vulnerable groups - these are either sick people elderly people are children before the fall who cannot independently decide their fate, accordingly make decisions that they will refuse to go, for example, in this direction, and they want to leave in the direction of ukraine, let's say zaporizhzhia, dnipro, on this side, and this is exactly what is happening now in the occupied territories of the same kherson region, where russia is actually providing cover, in fact, using it as a living a shield of people er transporting them simultaneously with the military

from one bank to the other in order to avoid shelling and to avoid the fact that they will destroy the same invaders who leave the occupied territories, actually this is one of those er to say er signs of the same er war crime when the civilian population is used as human shields. that is, it is actually really er on the one hand the use of human shields on the other hand it is forced deportation and we are talking about the removal of groups population uh, when it comes to the same children who lived in various orphanages, children's homes, other social institutions, uh, and accordingly, they are taken uh, to the territory of russia, the russian federation, uh, there is a uh, so-called procedure

adoption and roots are lost and it will even be difficult to establish where, in which places, in which families these families will be, that is why you are in the eyes of the children, that is why this question is primarily for international organizations, this is a question that cannot be asked without it full stop in this war, when those who committed them and, accordingly, are complicit in these crimes, will be convicted of crimes, and let me remind you that it is these people who are endotic to this procedure of deportation to adoption, they will also bear responsibility, and i hope that the punishment and a fair trial will take place and it will not be stretched within 20 or 30 years, but at least after the end of the war. i think it should be

somewhere no more than 5 years. -e will be equal to the absence of such justice as such and accordingly, we cannot count on such a p. oleksandr, but according to the information of the coordination headquarters of the kherson haps, it is called, now there are 63,70,000 people left in kherson. well, instead of those who lived there before the war, 320,000 and here we included several military experts who said that the russians can now use similar tactics to destroy kherson, when they will be there until the end, causing the fire of ukrainian artillery and turning kherson into a new mariupol, so that later they will accuse the tssa of the fact that look, you said that we razed mariupol to the ground, you razed to the ground a kind of kherson well, how should we

treat this story, can kherson repeat mariupol and can the ukrainian armed forces then blame the fact that they destroy the infrastructure there, destroy the population and so on, please, well, first of all, this question is more related to the conduct of hostilities, and i am more than convinced that ukraine will not use indiscriminate shelling to destroy the occupier who is located in kherson, having information that the civilian population is there, it is, well, if we didn’t have such facts that confirmed this kind of tactics, even though , let’s say, the liberation of large cities er such like kherson, it will be written on a new page

even in the tactics of waging hostilities in this russian -ukrainian war. it was initiated there, let's say by russia, because it will use the same population as human shields and try to achieve the maximum destruction of kherson as a city that will remain after them. i will remind you that today in fact, the same occupiers looted this city they took out everything they could, starting with industrial equipment, hotels, their equipment, television towers, cellular communications, even museums, they looted. that is, they are looters

who actually destroy and leave behind burnt the land, therefore, here first, it will be necessary to replace these words, they will be interested in destroying it, so to speak, shooting it with heavy artillery and saying that it is still , so to speak, the work of the ukrainians ukraine doesn't have any armed forces of any big problem, of course we cannot carry out indiscriminate shelling, let me remind you that the same heimers are so accurate that they can find a target there within a few meters. that is, these are not the shells and rockets with which the russian federation is shelling ukrainian places and

cities which e-e just e-e with a deviation of several hundred meters or several kilometers e fall on civilian objects destroy e-e objects of civil infrastructure the civilian population that simply suffers from these actually non-selective shelling is in the end, we still have a little bit of time, i would like to ask about uh, whether we will be able to find out the truth about the crimes of the enemy or not in mariupol, we know more about well, not more than a measure, we actually know almost everything that can be handed over irpin became a vagrant in gostomel , many other settlements, chernihiv region, sumy region, izyum, but the truth opened up to us in izyum, and in balaklia, in those cities that have now been liberated from the enemy in kherson region, the bodies of tortured and executed people are already being found, and you know what is there takes place in the occupied territories of the kherson region , but mariupol is a separate story, a city where

it is unknown that all the people died in principle, more than 1,500 new graves have now been found in mariupol, and there may be even more dead in years, and please tell me how to classify this crime and whether there will really be trials of kara because these crimes of the enemy, they must somehow appear fully before the world, who would see what happened there, please. yes, these are indeed war crimes committed by the russian federation, and the problem is that the criminal is now is at the scene of the crime and he erases the traces as much as possible, even sometimes manipulating, trying to present it as uh, let's say the fault of the ukrainian side, which uh was the reason for committing these crimes, how to investigate uh to this day the same prosecutor's office uh office the prosecutor general has

violations of criminal cases, they are investigating , collecting evidence, and this is also attached. well, as far as i know, one of the episodes that will be considered by the international criminal court concerns mariupol, the shelling of the maternity hospital. house in mariupol, besides, this is the biggest such vivid tragedy with the shelling of the drama theater, where actually more than 1,000 people died there, this is also one of those episodes of committing a war crime, let me remind you that in today's world there are a lot of ways elements of fixation that leave traces that are the evidence base, for example, this week the investigation was made public and, let's say

, the reconstruction of the actions that took place in buch using surveillance cameras that were not turned off, worked and recorded information actually this is one of such bright examples and we have not yet familiarized ourselves with everything and not seen everything because other methods of gathering information are also working and will be used as evidence of the commission of these crimes and i really agree with you that mariupol will be the most tragic to date in history in this war, since it is about the actual several tens of thousands of victims who became victims as a result of the capture of this city in february and ending in may of this year, so this is a really big tragedy that should be the investigation has been brought to a global level and

the direct perpetrators of this tragedy must really appear before the court and be punished. thank you very much oleksandr pavlichenko, executive director of the ukrainian helsinki union for human rights, for contacting our studio. in full on all three branches, well, in fact, the metro did not work around half past ten to ten in the morning. therefore, you can use the kharkiv subway by underground well, now we will talk with ludmila filippovich, a religious expert about the latest statements of the head of the holy roman throne, well, about other religious things lyudmila, ladies, we congratulate you good day to you good day yes good day well, let's start with the statement itself. i have already quoted it today, but it is short and such a vagoma so what are we going to talk about ? so, what the pope said the day before strikes me, and that is why i

use the word very painful, that is cruelty that is not characteristic of the russian people . it is possible because the russian people are a great people. the cruelty of mercenary soldiers who go to war as an adventure of mercenaries, i prefer to think so, because i have great respect for the russian people, for russian humanism, it is enough to remember dostoyevsky, who to this day inspires christians to understand christianity, i have a great affection for the russian people, as well as a great affection for the ukrainian to the people, mrs. lyudmila, what did you feel when you read or heard these words of pope francis, please? i want to call on everyone to stop expecting the pope to hear that i wanted to hear that he will never say something like that to us, as our heliam, how much do we understand that , i know, we are a bit populist and

we expect from any politician, from a religious sect those words that calm us, encourage us, help us understand the situation and at the same time, we do not take into account that the pope of rome. i want to remind you that he is not ukrainian, he lives not only in ukraine, he has 2 billion people under his command, and in ukraine there are only 5 million hryvnias , that is, let's simply relate somehow this scale, where is ukraine? although he constantly reminds us that ukraine is in his heart , he prays at all possible events. in the vatican and ruled there in the apostolic capital, would he be so favorable to ukraine, let's

still accept it as a fact that the pope has his own life, see his own worldview, his own interests, he does not think a warring nation, and he he thinks like a christian peacemaker, this is his whole essence and he cannot change because he is first of all a christian, he is a catholic in front of everyone, it is clear that he, from this and his catholic position, wants to reconcile everything, but he cannot understand how it is yes, such a big nation as russian well, let's tell the truth, it is big because there are no 130 million of them and there are not so many such big nations, well, how does he kill another nation, it is not small, it is also big, and it is also cultural, and

he also communicates well with different people and with those who tell him that dostoevsky's humanism can save the whole world and with those who are garages that the russians have even a drop of that humanism left and it was only on paper because we see not by words but by deeds that russian wars create on our territories, the next moment is very important. we all the time, you know, personify the roman catholic church with the pope. but let 's still consider that the roman pope is not an all- catholic church and we hear other voices and we receive help from many catholics and they they cheer us up and they help us materially, morally, financially, and so on , so it means that what the pope says is probably not liked by many catholics. well,

i know for sure that our greco-catholics don't like it because i hear comments that are given from the mouths of the leaders of the greek-catholic church and it was fished precisely by footage of the visit of the head of the ukrainian greek-catholic church, sviatoslav shevchuk, to the pope, who brought him such a counter-argument against humanism . let's not forget that the pope doesn't live in mariupol, he doesn't live in buch, not in irpin , not even in today's kherson, he's not in bakhmut, he didn't even hear an air alert, you don't know what bombs are or rockets flying. i already i'm not talking about the death of my loved ones and relatives. well, let's remember the president of

germany until he came and sat in ukraine and sat for two hours with who else, what are his views on what is happening in ukraine, i don't want to say that the pope should be sure to take to the front line so that he somehow realizes everything is different than what is happening now, but what he is looking at from the screen even if the foreign nuncio to him, in which he is now in ukraine from the vatican, is also probably telling him, but his idea of ​​what is happening in ukraine consists of producers and there are not only our people. yes, we are a very strong pro-russian lobby, both left and right, and radicals and liberals. who is there? there are no people around him, and everyone there is giving him something

to advise him and tell him something, and the pope has to somehow balance between all the interests that approaches, but now we see who communicates with the representative of the russian orthodox church , metropolitan hilarion, and we must also maintain relations with them, well, one. who wants to be recognized as an authority, that is, he is recognized by the catholic church as infallible in matters of faith and in matters of morality. this pope proves to us that the popes are they can also be wrong, because they are human beings, because today's war is not only, you know, a military affair, or an economic or financial one - the financial answer to moral e challenges, that is, who is guilty, how to atone for that guilt , what sacrifice must be made in order to atone for that war, well, this pope was not able, as they

say, to fully answer these questions, but it is not only a problem, but it is interesting, as one of the leaders put it of a collective event that is currently forming meanings and with which we have to constantly fight and constantly resist. because we ukrainians are not satisfied with such an understanding. it is necessary that we putin does not lose his face as the leader of a great nation and so on and so on, the pope does not himself formulate the meanings and meanings that he

conveys to the people. by the way, it is necessary to meet with the members of the roman curia , and they are the main such administrative body in vatican city, the genre of the secretary is paralyzing, and also to convince him to put pressure on the pope and explain to him this situation in which he is constantly arise, it is necessary to work with the members of the ministry of so-called conditioning, because a lot depends on them, and what decisions they make. well, one last thing. probably, what i want to say is that we need to set priorities correctly, that is, to what extent pope rimskyi's statement is a priority for ukrainians. i liked how she answered it. things catholic ukrainian one she said i read what the pope says i'm catholic but i believe don't sleep i believe in jesus christ and his sayings i take into

account but they are in the 10th place in my priorities if we keep it like this, you know, no, no, the pope will get mad, and something for that. now the whole ukrainian nation can't sleep and reacts to the same thing. lyudmila filipovych and religion from skill . are there roman catholics in russia, in ukraine there are five million of them, i.e. many times more? and the pope has probably never been to russian museums, he is argentinian, like the armitage and the tretyakov gallery, almost all the exhibits are there. nobody bought them there and did not exchange them, that's what on marauders but russian troops during the last 300 years of their the conquest of europe and other countries of the world this is the history and the humanism of the russian people yes well, we will be back with egor in 10 minutes literally right now iryna koval will tell about the most important news as of this minute irina please thank you colleagues just in a moment about what is already happening in a number of regions