of the american representative bodies, there may be different options, so to speak. ostapenko , former president of the united states. i agree with mr. synenko that despite the fact that there are some voices saying that support for ukraine should be stopped or reduced, there really is this bipartisan support, it is maintained and even more members of the republican party, contrary to some voices within their fellow party members, nevertheless declare and convince that support for ukraine will continue and will continue regarding the negotiations until the united states has an absolutely clear position that only ukraine, only the ukrainian people and the ukrainian authorities will determine when and under what conditions these negotiations will be conducted. the united states also communicates clearly to ensure that ukraine has the strongest possible position when it comes to these negotiations . undertakes to support ukraine, in particular, by arming it with economic and other things as long as it is needed and will also provide arms

so that ukraine can regain its territories about this, the teacher also communicates, they say that the war can end this moment if putin withdraws his troops from ukraine if putin returns the captured territories to ukraine, they are not seen here at the moment, however, i don't think i see her sign anywhere that putin is ready to do this and the territories will not be returned until a this is a violation of the un charter, then until now there can be no talk of peace negotiations , the position here is clear, everything is correct, they support a peaceful settlement, of course we would like to see it end as soon as possible but again, on positions that will be voiced by kyiv on those positions that will be acceptable for ukraine and for ukrainians me osta is present ukraine ukrainian issue in the american media space and ordinary americans are there still blue-yellow flags on the streets of america as it was at the beginning of a full-scale invasion - after a few

months of a full-scale invasion, because it is now the ninth month, people are getting tired and probably the americans have some questions of their own that worry them much more than the war somewhere very far away in ukraine it is natural that there are many issues that come to the fore now, where are the elections in the united states, other things, but despite this, i see flags walking on the streets of washington, walking on the streets of other cities, i will honestly say that there is at least one flag in every city where i go, there is at least one ukrainian flag er, it’s usually about more flags, the topic of ukraine is present according to the mass media, and of course not 24/7 as it was, let’s say, the end of february or march, but all the big snakes having a special ukraine tab on their main pages or a special online text broadcast is conducted, does any analysis constantly appear, some explanations, the topic of ukraine is present, it does not disappear anywhere, it is possible and this is natural, indeed, some internal issues come to the fore, but even if we are talking about foreign policy issues , about this vector, ukraine really occupies one of the

leading places, thank you for the information from the united states, stalwart journalists, the host of the voice of america was with us, he told a little about the elections and the mood of the americans yes and we now we are adding to our marathon oleg dunda, people's deputy of ukraine. have a good day. good day. let's remember the desire of our two colleagues. that the enemy is not asking, let's be honest, it doesn't bother us, it bothers us that they would kill each other faster, well, including yes, with minimal losses for us, because you understand how will hands start to fly, so to speak

legs, head, like 100 years ago. well, it can affect us too, we understand. yes, it is not for nothing that russia is now trying to destroy our energy system and energy structures of various plans. there are fears that when they receive iranian ballistic missiles, the situation can worsen by an order of magnitude. yes, we understand that the air defense system is too large unfortunately, it is not very effective, to put it mildly , against ballistic missiles. well, accordingly, winter is ahead of us, you, dear people's deputies, understand very well what is happening in the country accordingly, i dared to ask you what has been done, what has not been done, and what should be done as of yesterday, so we understand that soon the enemy will use his nazi tactics of scorched earth, we literally understand that they want to create an internal conflict, an internal confrontation that would be

based on the fact that people will simply freeze oleg hunda and after that, oleg sinyutka, well, in order for us to go through the winter period normally, we need to do two things first, and the first thing is the creation and supply to our western partners systems of the campaign so that we can cover our critical infrastructure facilities, here it completely depends on our western partners, eh, regarding this supply, but we need to understand how much they did not supply us with it. we have a fairly large country covered. 5 i hope that less can fall through our means due to the critical structure, accordingly, there will be a big question about how the government and our western partners are working now. we must be constantly on our borders have large logistics warehouses with the appropriate equipment so that in the event

of failure or damage to some elements, we can replace them there in a day or two and start our energy system again, and thirdly, it already depends on us and it is already being done, for example in the same kyiv region, and here a lot needs to be involved and there is a place for the authorities. we have many institutions , e.e., educational institutions, schools, kindergartens, which are now not being used for their intended purpose. because we have many children who have gone online and just for educational institutions can be used to equip them with the appropriate transformers, generators, and diesel generators in order to turn them into some kind of heating houses, houses that can be stayed there for some small temporary time until we restore our critical structure and start heating and electricity heating again and these are the main measures that we can take today and i hope that by

december 1 we will finally solve these issues. thank you, mr. oleg, mr. oleg. well, what happened yesterday to do what we asked is to provide huge reserves of technologically necessary equipment to quickly convert and quickly repair transformer substations is not a secret for anyone, neither yesterday nor today, that in order to build a 110 kw substation, it takes 6-9 months 330 about one year 750 up to three years and that's why it was necessary to stockpile appropriate technical support stocks for quick repairs yesterday. well, unfortunately, unfortunately, they only started to mention it today, but it's good that they've already started doing it, anyway case today, what should be done today , the state budget should provide for a separate

line in order to finance ukraine's energy independence. unfortunately, there is no such line, therefore, the next session will necessarily make changes to the just adopted budget, and there should be a separate line for the energy supply of technological equipment for the repair of substations for the repair of transformers what should be done tomorrow tomorrow it is necessary to implement the idea that sounded in the speech of the eu leader peter a dusting of european solidarity about the fact that an energy rammstein should be created together with a safety rammstein, by the way, the western allies are already talking about this and it is necessary to encourage the local authorities today to follow the example of what was finally achieved and created in lviv, this is a program for co-financing generators for the association

of co-owners of multi-apartment buildings is not the bourgeois that will burn half the city. and that each condominium should have financial support from the budget to buy a generator for their house and in this way to provide a separate house for electricity supply, because friends, you know, we should not tell nonsense that we will evict 3 million people from kyiv, that we will send schools to a population center in which tens of thousands of people live, there is no need to fantasize, we must take real steps, financial instruments and people will do it themselves , so encourage local authorities to approve co-financing programs and those generators that are supplied to us today by western partners. they must be effectively used in apartment buildings and this will be a real solution from this situation from the threats that we face today,

thank you, thank you, oleg, please comment on what you heard from oleg, senyuka well, oleg synyutka probably does not know very well how industrial production is done in our country, how in general, in the world, i will remind you that generators or transformers are er, their production is 3-5 months and today, if we talk about the fact that they are already being formed, warehouses are really being formed on our borders, there is no point in financing this, because it is the same as the supply of weapons from the united states or equipment goes directly to great britain if we start saying that we are somewhere in the world and will buy with our money. accordingly, we must understand that this equipment will arrive there in a year or two. that is, we will become yesterday. ammunition or weapons, that is, directly there, the baltic countries or the countries of britain supply us not under

commercial contracts. not the same live sheet of supply, the level of other options does not exist, even if we started to purchase or form a purchase there, for example, in august, and still this year, these transformers will not reach us gradually, the only option is how it is done, as president zelensky said, this is energy, your time against which there are already relevant agreements and the supply is already underway, well, this is extremely important. by the way, i heard such a story that a place in the queue, how strange it is, can be bought . there is such a technology. to criticize i want now, well, live on the air to grope for some kind of effective model, that is, we have cities with millionaires, and this can be extremely tragic and a dangerous story. that is, we understand that all the generator and all generator production in the world will not be able to provide us with personal generators.

let even multi-story buildings, that is, how and what to do. i don’t know, that is, small towns. this is also not an option, because you can smoke, there may be fires , and so on. quite informative statements, for example, on the one hand, you don't want to name kyiv's city chiefs , so people will start to panic. so when the truth and falsehood about the possible evacuation of kyiv residents are thrown in there, this is refuted. it also does not affect the mental health of both kyivans and the residents of our state in general this is not a question of criticism. it is a question of some extremely quick steps that would calm the people. large missile strikes and not in august and not in november, but in march, we talked about the fact that winter

will come and the war will not end in three days, as the representative of the government promised on the screens at that time. and the war will be really long-lasting, and if we start preparing then 6-9 months, we would have all the possibilities today. but do we have what we have or do we have to rely on western partners ? yes, they will do everything that depends on them one hundred percent, but in addition, we must think that there is a government in ukraine that is also co-responsible professional and should take steps not to promise not to deceive but to really do and believe that people will then forgive any gaps when they see that the country is moving forward step by step every day, appropriate supplies are being made, appropriate repair work is being carried out, and there is no need to remain silent here, it is necessary to offer people to people had the opportunity to

help themselves and in such a way that we together maintain energy security in the country, well, look, i am really proud of our people, because first of all, what we have on our front and what is happening in us in ukraine - this is the victory of our people and the victory that we will finally achieve. first of all, this is our achievement of every ukrainian who participates in this, but we do not need to do that. for example , if we put a generator of any kind in some house we will save people and save them from the cold winter, this is wrong, the approach should always be systemic and, first of all, it is about the fact that we talk with our partners, this is the supply of transformers. week, of course but the question is that they should be so that we can replace them in time and start our spawn even though we now have a blackout video

blackout but still our power system is working and we heard a statement to the same where also what if repair work is going on how now something is happening, in a couple of weeks we may not have free shutdowns, but this does not mean that we should not create such squads and prepare for the worst . worse, and this is how we will win. we thank you oleg donba, people's deputy of ukraine worked live on the espresso tv channel. thank you for this inclusion. lesya vakulyuk and i are going further, mr. veja, you said that changes should be made to the budget , in fact, so that there are funds for repair our restore our energy system that was damaged after these shellings where to get the money to send it there in your opinion, it seems to me that there are more than enough sources and we did not just suggest that we should take the money, we showed

very specific sources please tell me whether it is necessary to increase funds for road works for next year compared to this year, isn't it a higher priority to transfer these funds for energy security to transformers at substations please tell me 2 billion is needed in order to additionally broadcast a single marathon can better transfer this money to the energy security of such sources in such articles, there is enough in this draft budget, the social development fund, you know, the bribery fund for those deputies who vote well is it time for this tape to be included separately in this budget, and when we consider all these absolutely corrupt articles that were included in the budget for 2023, we will receive enough resources to make a separate tape on the energy security of the country for the 23rd year, that is, the money is simply not there they must be scattered and

looted, they must be concentrated and, under clear public control, spent on top-priority needs, we are now attracting dmytro sakharuk , executive director of dtek , to our marathon. people's deputy oleg sinyutka, we are currently trying to develop certain models that would allow our power plants to work better and that would help save our people from the cold. accordingly , planned shutdown schedules are currently being implemented, there are emergency shutdown schedules, but the key issue is the supply of necessary components, in particular, and transformers. a few days ago, we we spoke with you on this topic, perhaps there is a certain process, in particular, it is about additional funding from the state budget for these purchases. so far, there is no progress

in this matter, to be honest, so far the statement has not gone so far, it is an extremely unpleasant story. well, let's hope. well, let's hope that it will be possible to involve our parliament in order to advance this. it's a pity that the power representatives of mr. oleg dunda, who just told how everything is fine how everything is perfect i would like to thank mr. from dmytro and in his person the energy workers of ukraine who in these extremely difficult conditions are extracting the maximum possible from the opportunities that are available today in to ukraine and mr. dmitry, tell me once again for the tv viewers how long it takes to restore a 750 kw substation, depending on how it was

destroyed. there are substations that were destroyed in our country that cannot be restored. they need to be built from scratch. there are substations that were significantly damaged and there unfortunately, due to significant damage, restoration works are not only going on for weeks, we are already for months. the flat place is now, of course, the equipment that is needed to replace what was damaged in order for the equipment to be shredded funds because this equipment is expensive , it costs hundreds of millions of dollars. unfortunately, it takes a long time to manufacture, so you have to buy back the supply of this equipment, stand in line not from the end ahead, it also costs money, money is in that, er, to say such rather optimistic things, i don’t want to and i can’t because it will not be true, now everything

depends on the enthusiasm of the energy workers who work on those reserves that were made uh and this is what is now the reason for restoring light in the houses of ukrainians, you know what the problem is today's ministry of energy , today's high-ranking officials, they do not want to invite professional people, professional energy workers and not just listen to them, but to hear what they propose to redistribute funds to the directions that they propose to purchase additional equipment, purchase, finance additional repair work and thus create a margin of safety that really was and this is the problem of today's representatives of the authorities, they are afraid to look unprofessional and therefore they are afraid to call professional

intelligent, experienced people and do what they suggest. this is what needs to be done today, and it is not true that the budget should include additional funds for energy security, and it is not true that today the country's primary energy needs are being financed . did not vote for the adoption of this budget, and i don't care who will say what, because it is important to me that the energy experts have the opportunity and the energy experts will have the opportunity, they are professional people, they they will do everything so that there will be light in the homes of ukrainians. please tell me that such emergency shutdowns will last for two weeks. after that, everything will return to normal. well, in a normal state, normal work, but russia can get ballistic missiles from iran, and they have quite a few that hit quite

normally, so in the goal there is a deviation of some 500 m, respectively, if they start attacking our energy system again, or whether our energy system will manage to keep it alive so that people do not sit in the dark, cold homes without light and without communication, i will say yes , first of all, this is a fairly optimistic forecast for the week, we say that it was not so optimistic because , uh, we have 40% of the infrastructure damaged and 40% will not be restored in two weeks, some partial possible improvement but it will not be the same as it will not be as visible. that is, we will definitely not live the way we lived before the shelling began. i am giving you a guaranteed

rating. unfortunately, the rating is because it cannot be otherwise . as for rockets, of course, civil structures are not designed to getting rockets here is no difference, this is the paradise rockets, are these x-rays that remember, or calibers, or daggers, they tear the equipment to pieces, this is a big destruction. and when they use four , eight, even a rocket at the same time, we will shoot them all down , unfortunately, so far we can't, that's why we're here three things that are important, the first is to continue to build up our counter-defense forces, this is, first of all, secondly , there is to provide civil protection of our equipment, what we do, but it is on a secondary plane because of secondary damage in the form of a wave e explodes or hestokov can protect a-and the third is the creation of an effective

management system for liquidation of the consequences and support of the energy industry for which it is necessary in order to timely create reserves in order to provide the necessary funds in a timely manner in order to set priorities in a timely manner because some substations can heal quickly and with a great effect, some with a reduced effect, this requires a vertical of the government that makes a decision today and today in order to get a result already tomorrow, unfortunately eh hmm if with the first two we we are working now uh and the result with the third one is big problems mr. dmytrovych, consultations were held at the appropriate level with consultations with representatives of the energy complex of ukraine, you mentioned the priorities well, i hope there is already a clear algorithm, or at least the planned actions that are

needed to stabilize uh, did they talk were there any big meetings with you, the representatives of the government, of course they talked and we can do everything well, we need professional people in power who are able to make decisions, that is, this is fun. it is necessary to stop, you know, the schemers who, in order to rob and wash it all very well, but when there is a real problem in the country, it is necessary to return to power professional people who know what to do, who are not ashamed to invite professional people and come up with the necessary quick solution. and what is the most important thing to take after it is your responsibility to direct funds raise people pay resources get equipment don't talk about the problem don't

convene a meeting for the sake of a meeting but really listen consult and accept and do because this is all speaking she is leading the country into an abyss and it is impossible to let it go, it must be stopped, listen well, before the election, during the war, what prevents today from hiring professional people into the cabinet of ministers, nothing. to this day, there is no question of dividing the money, today there is a question of saving the country, and whoever does not understand this is the real enemy of the country, mr. sakharuk, in your opinion, slovak electricity as much as it can to be helpful and in general, what are the biggest problems with generation or with delivery and so on

, get rid of them for such unprofessional expressions, no, you are saying everything correctly, it is clear that we now have network problems, that is, the question of how it is possible to transfer electricity from the place where it is produced to the city where it is consumed because our substations of the e-e line through which electricity is transmitted and the second problem is generation because a lot of damage to the station is not in our company, it is six stations were damaged, and other companies were also damaged, so slovak or any other imported electricity will help us if we can transfer it from the west to the east or to the center, at the moment there is no such possibility in full because it is limited due to the destruction, so if we assume today we would have imports in

kyiv and the kyiv region, it didn't help at all because, uh, we can't transfer it to kyiv in the kyiv region now, because there's no other component, even if we repair it, we'll fix it after some time we will not have local restrictions , we will have so-called questions how to buy all the energy from us now in the country there is a commercial price restriction i am not talking about the population right now about the commercial wall on the 92 euro energy market in europe -e at different hours from 1050 to 300 € costs e megawatt hours how can you buy and sell this electricity in ukraine ? point of view even if there will be it is technically possible to transfer kw/h or

megawatt-hour, it is impossible to buy it because it is impossible to sell it in ukraine due to the existing restrictions . unfortunately, it is not accepted, it is the same as it was with diesel and gasoline at the beginning of spring when there were regulatory restrictions and we were missing even from all gas stations as soon as they made such more lenient restrictions they gave us the opportunity to bring e-e in an economically normal way of fuel, it appeared again at gas stations, the problems were solved, here we are now in electricity in electricity in the same situation when there are restrictions, there is no

way not to buy, not to sell, then with an economically normal approach and we in fact , we feel 10 - this is in addition to those restrictions that arose as a result of thank you, gentlemen, for this honest conversation in the form of a telecan of interest dmytro sakharuk executive director of dtek oleg synyutka narodny deputy of ukraine, unfortunately, we have to pass the word now, and as long as there are people sitting in the ministry of energy, there will be no point."