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well, the forms change, but the essence does not change. this is the country. you say it correctly. chambers number six . this is something that needs to be treated, but it already looks like the normal medicines have run out. it is necessary to have surgery, and it is very similar. it's sharp, because otherwise, this country will either fail itself or it will fail everyone. thank you very much for participating in the program in such a difficult situation. may god give you all the best health. this is volodymyr ogrysko and the program was the verdict. goodbye. congratulations, this is freedom life. my name is vlad and lazur until the summer of 2023 this year, ukrainian forces will liberate crimea, so believes the former commander of the us ground forces in europe
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, lieutenant general bethodges, he made this prediction in an exclusive interview with radio svoboda from him and we are starting graduates. i think that the result of the operation in the east is already inevitable. ukraine has reached an irreversible momentum. battles, as you say, in bakhmut and also in the kherson region during the last few weeks, the russians seem to have taken away civilians from kherson and also looted everything that was not nailed to the floor and i i predict that the fighting in and around kherson will continue for several weeks until the ukrainians destroy all the russians on the right bank of the dnieper , but let's think about the ukrainian counteroffensive that began in september, perceive it as one big operation, and therefore the left wing of the counteroffensive is an operation that came down from kharkiv now there is
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another wing in kherson near donetsk and moving to mariupol. so this is the right wing, so both of these wings are converging to crimea, all roads lead to crimea and when they get closer and closer they will be able to use himars and other means of long-range high-precision strikes to hit russian targets in crimea, as soon as they start using high-precision weapons against russian airbases and storage points or logistical support and naval facilities in crimea, then i think crimea will become unusable for defense of the russians and that is why i believe that ukraine will liberate crimea by the summer, remind me when the russians attacked mariupol, what were the circumstances, they were ukrainian soldiers who defended the motherland, they were from there and that is why you have there is a will to fight, a moral factor. if you want
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the determination of soldiers who defend their home, any russian troops who are in mariupol are not defending anything. none of them will want to be there, they will see that they are trapped with their backs to the sea of ​​azov. and this is a completely different set of circumstances, we everyone must understand that russia will be defeated in the old-fashioned way, they will be defeated on the battlefield, the black sea fleet has no help except for launching missiles, theirs is going to the black sea, they are hiding from ukrainian anti-ship missiles and now they are worried about ukrainian drones , so of course it is still too early to plan a victory parade, but i am an optimist. many losses on the
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ukrainian side, their arguments are that there are only two land routes from mainland ukraine to crimea, which is needed to overcome the air defense systems of the enemy of ukraine. can you explain how this operation can take place and what are the challenges here my go on the challenges here which you just expressed which you received from other analysts are of course legal, especially if you think about it only in terms of convention such as a direct attack through the perekop isthmus or some other way on the ground to get to the peninsula then it's difficult it's always been the traditional line of defense to protect that for centuries but it's not going to happen in a vacuum we're still talking about the situation 8 months later and so many things will happen on the battlefield all over ukraine but also in russia and at some point i think the general staff
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of the russian federation will understand that they are losing so many capacities, remember what happened around belarus a couple of weeks ago, but now nobody hears about belarus, the russians are so desperate that they are looking for other means to solve the challenges, and that is why we will continue to support ukraine , then i will be sure that next summer, on the 23rd , crimea will be liberated traditionally svoboda life appears on the svoboda radio facebook page and on youtube, as well as on the espresso tv channel. well, you can leave your questions, comments, and remarks in the chat during the broadcast. well, further on in the issue of ukrnafta motor sich auto paint, other enterprises related to ukrainian politicians and businessmen become state property, let's talk about what this is means another top topic today in the
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united states election day at stake all 435 seats in the house of representatives and 35 and 100 seats in the senate millions of americans will take part in a vote that will determine the ideological configuration congress and will ask tons of political discussions in washington what ukraine can expect from these elections, we will also talk. well, just now, let's discuss the forecasts for gojis, who, as you just heard, said that ukraine can liberate crimea as early as next year. he said this in particular in an exclusive interview radio svoboda joins the airwaves serhiy rakhmanin, people's deputy of ukraine, member of the committee on national security, defense and intelligence serhiy good evening good evening so you must have heard the opinion of the former e-e commander of the ground forces the usa in europe, uh, ben hodges says that crimea can be liberated by ukrainian forces as early as next year, and this is not the first time he has expressed such a thesis. do you share it?
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lieutenant general frederick benjamin hodges is treated with great respect. realistic or not realistic, but to liberate crimea in the summer of next year, we must first wait for the liberation of kherson oblast and a successful offensive on zaporizhia in the direction of zaporizhzhia, after that it will be possible to talk about specific plans before that, any the forecasts, to put it mildly, look unrealistic. if we talk about the liberation of the so -called newly occupied territories that you just mentioned, this same ben hodges said in this same interview that the russian ukrainian forces have every chance to liberate these territories by the end this year, if we are talking about the right west bank of kherson oblast, there are still chances for the left east bank. it is much more difficult and i would, if we have a chance for the ukrainian armed forces to liberate kherson by the end of the year, this is absolutely not realistic
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it is a fact that it will happen, but all the reasons for this are related to the liberation of the entire kherson region. well, so far, objectively, they do not work out that way. as for the zaporizhzhia region, i will remind you that the front there has been frozen for a long time and there are reasons to talk about a large-scale rapid offensive so far, unfortunately, such reasons no all the more so that the ukrainian armed forces and the defense forces are forced from time to time to transfer reserves of resources for objective reasons to the donetsk directions . the threat to the marines remains or for vugledar from the side of pavlivka, the threat from the seversky remains. therefore, so far everything is tough enough, difficult enough in the kherson region, there are really good chances there , as well as in the luhansk direction, there are positional battles, but in principle the initiative belongs to the ukrainian armed forces" in trap, he also
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focused on the fact that the russian troops are actually not protecting anything in mariupol, they are just standing there for the time being, so far no one is chasing them from there. but nevertheless, what are your beliefs regarding this thesis that mariupol can be trapped in the pass, any city can be captured by the enemy, this is the first, second, it is clear that if we are talking about motivation, then of course the motivation of the ukrainian liberators is much greater than that of the russians, especially the mobilized ones who did not understand the who are fighting. but if we are talking purely about the military side of the matter, then you can open the map and look until the moment when at least kherson and melitopol are liberated, talk about an attack on mariupol prematurely, how long will it take
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you probably often think about it. how long can you objectively take it , taking into account the military aid that ukraine is currently receiving and the configurations of forces that both the ukrainian and russian armed forces have, you know, there are two phrases for all times and peoples that relate to war, the first phrase belongs to the clause that said that military affairs are difficult to learn, it is difficult to fight, and the second, if i am not mistaken, belongs to cartoons that said that any even brilliant strategic military plan breaks down from the first minute of its implementation, we can predict anything, but war is made up of a million circumstances, and therefore it is premature and not really correct to talk about any specific dates, because war is a strategic plan that is implemented or not implemented depending on from an incredible number of factors . if i simply list these factors now
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, it will take time until the end of our program . any specific dates no no no no not possible and i say once again after it will be completed successfully i hope and i hope quickly the operation to liberate the a-a right coast of kherson oblast can be made specific dates you look at the history of this war of the last stage how it started on february 24 how many there were predictions, and how many of them came true? predictions during active hostilities, especially such large-scale ones as are currently being waged, this is an absolutely ungrateful thing, and it makes no sense to be tied to any specific dates. impression on readers and viewers who saw it. we can see it from the comments in the comments.
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well, why does he make such predictions in order to cheer up? is this the most optimistic forecast that can happen, but not the fact that it will happen, that is, where does it come from ? people who give these forecasts, they draw such conclusions, ask me a question that should be addressed to mr. franklin benjamin hodgets . operate the general united states headquarters of the russian federation, he is a professional military officer - this is definitely generals kanon and hodges, a brilliant biography and an active long list but why does he make such predictions, well, this is an assumption, but this is an assumption, listen, let's remember how many predictions, both positive and negative, did not come true at the beginning of this war and you will see that it is very difficult to make predictions, you can talk about a scenario, if we talk about a scenario, the most
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successful scenario for us in the near future is a the advancement of the armed forces of ukraine in the south to the dnipro river and the advancement of an active direction on the svatov kreminna line, this is really where we can achieve success if there will be objectively positive circumstances in our favor and we can also expect i think that at least attempts to activate the activity of the armed forces of ukraine in the zaporizhzhia direction and to obtain i think that there are grounds for this to obtain the front lines in the donetsk direction to date by the end of the year, this is objectively the biggest linguistic-couch ceiling our military pranks from the new year, we will have to look at the losses, we will have to look at the morale of the body, its losses, how actively the lost armed forces will be demobilized and replenished, how
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actively the aid will go, and after that, rebuild new plans to run very far ahead on this the war is very difficult because it is a very cruel war and unfortunately, despite the huge losses of the russians, they still have enough resources and the last election we will talk about it to speak in more detail, but recently another package of military aid was announced for ukraine, and i would like to ask your opinion about it, and how much is ukraine currently receiving weapons from its partners, just for us, the offensive, here it is predicted, in particular, its general hodges about the fact that ukraine can release crimea in the next year, but for this we need the appropriate weapons, how much ukraine receives them, look at the process of providing us with assistance , it is formed in accordance with our demand and in accordance with the offer not everything we ask for
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they can provide everything, they can provide it quickly , first of all, secondly, the need is adjusted depending on the situation, well, relatively speaking, the priority can change, for example, today, in view of the very hard strikes on critical infrastructure, we have air defense systems and the rap of radio electronic warfare today is a priority, if today we first of all ask questions about missile complexes about radio stations, then i think that priority will be given to this, what concerns the offensive weapons, i will remind you that for now, for example, we have a need for tanks, especially in modern western ones, this issue has not yet been resolved. we are provided with soviet post-soviet models, well, mostly t-72, but for today, i say once again that the priority for us is the anti-aircraft system of defense because the biggest threat and the biggest risk for today are
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strikes on critical infrastructure. thank you very much for your comment. serhii rahmanin, people's deputy of ukraine, faction, voice, member of the committee on national security, defense and intelligence, we talked about prospects for the liberation of ukrainian territories by the end of the year and next year . energy companies ukrnafta and ukrtaknafta, a large part of their shares belonged to the privat group of igor kolomoiskyi and gennadiy bogolyubov at the same time a controlling stake in ukrnafta was held by the state-owned naftogaz even before nationalization , the motor sich machine-building plant was also on the list of seized enterprises, its shares were blocked back in 2018 after the sale of the company to chinese investors, and
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now the president, the largest owner of motor sich, vyacheslav boguslaev, i remind you, is in custody, he is suspected of of treason according to the investigation. he sold engines for attack helicopters to russia even two zaporizhzhia transformer and autotrans companies a few years ago the ukrainian government declares them bankrupt. after passing into the hands of the state, these enterprises will start working again for the benefit of ukraine. this decision was dictated by military necessity. it was agreed upon by the successors of the supreme commander-in-chief . five strategic enterprises are being forcibly alienated for the needs of wartime. repair and production of equipment for defense forces, work to restore
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our infrastructure is a complex task that can be performed only through the system of military state management, i also do not exclude other similar decisions, the amount of assets acquired the status of military property, their management was transferred to the ministry of defense of ukraine after the end of martial law, in accordance with the requirements of the law, the indication of assets can be returned by the owner or by appropriate compensation of their value, about what the forced transfer of enterprises into state ownership means this process can affect the economy and investment potential of the country in wartime, we will talk further, serhii fursa joins the broadcast investment banker good evening serhiu well, during yesterday's briefing, at which the decision was announced that five enterprises would become state property, defense minister reznikov said that this was not nationalization but expropriation for military needs, tell me if there is a fundamental difference between these two processes and concepts and yet, what
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is nationalization, or is it a forced expropriation or just a transfer for the needs of the state, how would you comment on it? well, look, i don't see a particular difference between nationalization and expropriation. what does it mean, what did we do with them, we simply took them into state ownership, but you can call it withdrawal, nationalization, whatever was yours , became ours for you. a person who very actively monitors all these processes, is this a decision with a plus sign or a decision with a minus sign taking into account the context of the war for me, this is a very dubious decision and here, in fact, everything is sketched together and i have several enterprises there that do not raise many questions, such as astras or zaporizhia transformers, there is a certain military logic there, but for example, when we talk about the motor sich and ukrnafta should not forget that there were
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private investors in the shares of these companies, well, motor sich is mesmerized. but all the same, there were private investors who were waiting for the thaw, and ukrnafta shares were traded on the stock exchange as early as friday , and here at one point the owners were mainly ukrainians yes and sometimes foreign funds wake up and they have nothing . now we will talk about it in more detail, but tell me in your opinion according to your beliefs whether these companies under full state control will be able to become more efficient and really work on the economy in a state of war, well, look, again, i don’t know. for example, the transformer in zaporizhia is clear that now the russians are destroying our energy infrastructure, and below the substations, transformers are needed. but is it possible to quickly resume the production of transformers there? after all, if only we start producing transformers, russian rockets will fly there. and auto paint, well, theoretically, it is probably possible
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if for petro there is not enough steam for certain cars and now the state if it finds more managers to do this, it is also an open question, and it is not at all clear about ukrnafta because ukrnafta was already a state-owned company and understood that the management there was always more loyal to kolomoiskyi, the state, but who is the doctor for whom, and why. just now especially after the change of the head of naftogaz, do not replace the management there, do not establish your own and do not alienate anything, but among the former owners of holders of a large number of shares, there are already quite famous people partly of which you have already mentioned ihor kolomoiskyi , they are all connected in one way or another with scandals and zhivago and boguslaev and the same kolomoiskyi, tell me, can we say that it is possible to assume that the state took away their assets in order to reduce their influence in ukraine, well, look, i don't i think that the influence of the wish somehow depends on the factory that did not work, or i
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don’t know what the influence is now in gregorish, so it seems to me that it was the influence that was small. it seems that the goal was to reduce the influence, but for example, this phrase that there could be other factories other enterprises - this is, for example, hello to everyone else, yes, wait. if you behave badly, we can come to you, that is, if from your point of view, methane was not the goal, it was not to somehow influence these people because, as you say, they did not have any great influence there in country, if there are serious doubts that the state will be able to dispose of this property effectively, then why was this decision made, this decision was made, maybe there is some kind of military, er, state management system, ingenious, which we do not know about, which will be able to implement the normal activity of these enterprises and you allow it, well, there is always the possibility of something unusual, there is such an option. and how
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can ukraine act then, or what will ukraine face after that? well, it is actually even provided by law that the former owners can sue and take their property. now the question is that i can imagine kolomoiskyi suing the ukrainian court, and i can even imagine kolomoiskyi winning in the ukrainian court. well , if we are talking about the times after the war, i understand that if we go by what the authorities said that they are taking these companies, well , because during the war, this company had to work efficiently in favor of the state, that means there is always the possibility that after the war the companies will be returned to their owners
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, whether it is a fact or we do not know that they will be returned, please, the law says that the war will end, a certain time will pass and you will be paid what the state will be considered a fair value, but if you file a lawsuit, you can return it through the court. well , volodymyr zelenskyi said that the same decisions can be made in relation to other companies, and it can lead to the fact that its holders of shares in other companies can get under the category of strategic and will begin to sell them off so that they are left with nothing. this could be the case for ukrainian funds. the market there is nothing to sell off. bank aval, but on raiffeisen bank aval, it is unlikely that he will definitely be included in the list of these strategic enterprises, there is no such risk, but there is a risk that any other large enterprise can become the object of such a
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very unexpected nationalization. and how is this whole story in general this news somehow resonates with people who are thinking or planning to invest in ukraine now or after the war. well , we know that the ukrainian government often comes out with such statements, let's invest in ukraine here too. the ukrainian authorities make such a decision, on the one hand, there is a war and it is necessary, and someone will say, on the other hand, here you go, you say, and you know it is very doubtful, it is very doubtful, what thoughts do potential investors have when such news comes from ukraine, well, watch now of course , the question of the future after the war will not be raised in the future, and this also undermines trust, because among the same holders of shares there were foreign funds, and for them it is simply expropriation and an unfair step on the part of the state, which state was not theirs in any way i didn't explain it. it didn't warn it. it's negative, but it
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will affect the future investment climate, and more . well, we are talking more about the second level of the pension system, for example, professional funds that have to invest somewhere, and here we are simultaneously breaking the ground for the arguments that there is somewhere to invest in ukraine, it was a great moment, i can just take it and take it, and imagine if in we don't actually have state pension funds. i think that some of them were shares of, for example , ukrnafta, and now the fortunes of all pensioners have decreased a little, but at the same time, this is the last question . i have not heard any complaints or statements from people who could be holders of shares in these companies that they are dissatisfied. is it still ahead? well, look at the shares, these are not oligarchs, but these are people who are there for a thousand hryvnias for 10,000
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hryvnias . there are no resources to oppose the state in the state, and the foreigners who own it well, now they probably just ticked the box where they will act, thank you very much serhiy fursa , investment banker, we talked about the consequences of the fact that ukraine nationalized or transferred a number of large enterprises to the benefit of the state, thank you very much before the full-scale russian invasion of ukraine, the village of stary saltiv is kharkiv. and several other villages near the pecheneg reservoir were a resort area with camping sites and places for fishing sailing is now all destroyed by the war, material from kharkiv region by taras levchenko about what is happening in those regions, this bridge across the river siversky
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donetsk did not survive the hostilities, so out of a dozen villages in kharkiv region in the direction from stary saltov to vovchansk found themselves cut off from civilization. and you get to another you have to either go around the coast by car and it takes about 4 hours, and it is not a fact that you will not encounter russian shelling on the way. or you can look for a boat, and here people do it even in a storm, as now there is a war , you have to adapt to everything here, i accept humanitarian cargo food packages very often well , i won't take much by boat thank god that there are no sick people now and there is no urgent need for hospitalization i am heading to the other side of the shore near the village of bugayivka i will be 15-12 kilometers from vovchansk
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i am doing volunteering people are asking for warm things those who are to leave the coastal zone categorically, some refuse due to limited strength and crossing these machines are people who come and deliver something, for example to the other side or vice versa, from that side they deliver something or people are moving, whom they meet here now at the ple-crossing, two motor boats are working thanks to the help of volunteers, now they are transporting a motorized pensioner, too, she did not see her son for six months , she did not see the chapitkovs afterwards, something happened with her feet, there was a problem with the person, and he transported everyone, and well, they were very , very happy, they were there, they could not you see the storm, what people are waiting for on the other side to take them away, when the russian military was still here, they allowed you to cross by boat from one
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shore to the other. release, what an influx of people you have very much from the very morning and until the evening, grandmothers and grandfathers go and relatives from kharkiv bring products, that is , the day is completely jammed, the fare is, who will give something, a cigarette, bread, they bring a boat , a boat is needed for such a plan, it is heavy along the waves, it normally goes over there in the north of the russian federation cucumber, on which the occupiers continue to pound and on this bridge during these years of ukraine's independence, transit freight transport is the only one in russia from russia that is, this was a kind of trade route

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