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to cross by boat from one shore to the other, no , they had fun with me only after the liberation, what an influx of people we have a lot of people from the very morning and until the evening, grandmothers and grandfathers go to her , relatives from kharkiv bring products, that is , the day is completely jammed, the fare is completely who will give cigarettes, something, bread, they bring a boat, a boat needs such a plan , she is heavy, she has what is on the waves, she normally goes over there in the north of the russian federation cucumber, on which the occupiers are now continuing to pound on this bridge as well during these years of ukraine's independence, transit transport is the only cargo to russia from russia. that is, it was a kind of trade route during the
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occupation. my wife and daughter managed to leave for germany . she is on duty. at the moment, there is no way to repair it, either financially or technically. we are waiting for a solution to this issue, so i temporarily live with volunteers in the city of kharkiv. i lived at school for two months. it was very difficult for the ukrainian military to get to us and the volunteers were shelling the zone to us, it was technically impossible not to refuel nothing and we lived and just waited people called and said what are you waiting for there will be a release so yes and we held on to hope today in the united states of america is election day for the cone all 435 seats in the house of representatives and 35 and 100 seats in sanativ well, in fact, it can be said that
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today will determine the ideological configuration of the congress and set tons of political discussions in washington. some experts assume that the republicans will take the majority in the house of representatives and this will limit the ability the american president to make decisions , including regarding ukraine. not everyone thinks so , nevertheless, she has the same opinion. we will also talk about it today, but to begin with what is happening in the united states. how is the voting process going? what are the latest forecasts ? kateryna has already joined the broadcast. lisonova - voice of america correspondent katya my congratulations, i am glad to welcome you to radio svoboda, tell me first what sociology is about, from what i see what political commentators write and say, they do not rule out that the republicans have a majority in both the sanitation and the congress, and i am also very happy to join your broadcast. here it is worth noting that as of tuesday morning, it is now basically morning in washington
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. this means that for the country of e-e, which is home to more than 330 million americans , any exit polls as of now will not be representative, and you know very well in the united states there is already a certain history when the court polls and some forecasts were constructive because analysts did not calculate what the turnout of voters from democrats or republicans would be, but here it is also worth noting that if you refer simply to the historical factor, during the last decades, the party of the opponent of the president wins in midterm elections. consumed is considered to be a sign of the balance of power so that the presidential party is not in control of the party and it usually happens that the party wins in mid-term elections presidents, but to find out exactly what
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exactly the result of these elections will be, you should only wait and wait for the results of the elections themselves. katya, tell me when the final results will be announced. in fact, there is no exact date when the final results will be one hundred percent. it depends on the gradual results of voting in each state, etc. -e probably theoretically it can be expected e-e during this week but there is no such exact date and it is hardly worth expecting it tonight or even tomorrow morning or tomorrow afternoon well, i can't help but ask you about ukraine. in ukraine, there is a lot of talk about this election because it can be directly related to the support of the united states of ukraine. can we now somehow predict what the position of the new congress will be regarding support? yes, this is big
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issue and the voice of america dealt with it very thoroughly. i spoke directly with both republican and democrats from the house of representatives and nato, as well as already cut american experts, and they all emphasize on the fact that aid to ukraine and support to ukraine at the two-party level will remain unchanged after these midterm elections, at the same time, experts emphasize that if the republicans take one of the chambers and become the majority of one of the chambers or the house of representatives or in the senate, it is not the most likely to revise the aid system itself ukraine's experts note that it will be worthwhile to concentrate on what kind of aid ukraine will receive for the republican girl, whether it will be concentrated on economic or humanitarian or military support for ukraine, i will point out the school's latest statement, in particular, the leader of the republicans in the house of representatives, mccarthy, who said that ukraine will not receive an unlimited check, as i talked with the republicans, one-way, which he is
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on mccarthy, they explain this statement as follows, according to the republican majority e aid to ukraine will be carried out through greater checks and greater control over e-e so that all finances actually all aid goes to the right places regarding what specifically will the republicans concentrate on economic humanitarian or military aid? those republics with whom i spoke emphasize that military aid will be a priority for them. the voice of america, victoria spartaswoman, republican , that's how we know victoria spartas. i think they know the last question very well in ukraine. i can't not ask about donald trump because his team announced that he and he will take a stand, he himself said that he will make a very big statement on november 15. and many expect what exactly on november 15 donald trump will announce that he will participate in the presidential race in the 24th year. what is the media writing about it and how is it generally perceived in the united states? society there is ready for another
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presidential term of donald trump . from the rallies in support of the republicans to the deputy of the states gaiv he said that on november 15 in his residence he made a statement to the second side of the statement, a number of americans in the media are already speculating that this will be the announcement of the day of the third presidential campaign of donald trump regarding the chances that donald trump will become the nominee of the republican party. many republicans who were nominated by donald trump won and so if they pass the congress the support of donald trump is not or the republican party actually deserts in it there will be more dances to support him as candidate regarding his probable chances to
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return to the white house again, it is worth noting that there is still a lot of support for donald trump in the united states, and there is enough support for this particular candidate in the wednesday of americans, so again it is worth to see what the nominee of the world republican party will be katya thank you very much kateryna lisunova told us live about how the midterm elections of the united states of america are going on right now thank you katya well and i hope that every minute we, uh, they already tell me that he has appeared our next guest is the one with whom we will continue to discuss the prospects that await ukraine in particular after the elections in the united states . pavlo klimkin, minister of foreign affairs of ukraine, 14-19 years old, joins the broadcast. now the democrats gain control over both chambers, but pre-election
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polls show that the republicans are likely to gain a majority in the house of representatives and possibly in the senate, do you agree with these predictions? first of all, making predictions in such elections is not just an ungrateful task, but it looks like the republicans can get a majority in the senate. it's up to trump whether his support will help the candidates who he directly lobbied to pass. at the moment, many republicans are rallying around the personality of tempo, but many republicans are also considering other
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options therefore, it is also well, in fact, it will be important whether there is a lack of results in these elections for the lower and upper houses of representatives, but i also want to say that the situation when one political party controls the congress or at least one house and the other the white house in the past in the united states after all led and led to the fact that the situation reached such a political impasse. perhaps you do not agree with me. but do you see such risks now and not only me, if only i saw it, it was actually only part of the matter this is seen by many of my good friends and acquaintances in the united states. first of all, they see that now
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the republican party and the democratic party will start playing the track of domestic politics, and in fact we are very close to the informal start of the presidential campaign, and among republicans and democrats this is still quite non-public but a very lively discussion who will go under what conditions who has the best chances and under conditions of extreme polarization in american politics uh, this will actually occupy all the attention of americans in the next two years. this does not mean that there will be less attention to us, but we will need to fight for it and it should be understood not as a threat. this is the last
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thought that i am concluding with. it is very important. it is not a threat. i am not flying anyone here, but i am saying that we have real risks with these risks, we have to work very intensively, but you yourself just said that uh, if uh, the situation can go into some political dead end and they will start playing the track of domestic politics in the united states and and and this poses risks for ukraine it is possible in more detail yaki risks what to prepare for, what does this mean in the context of the help that ukraine expects from the united states, i don't think that help will decrease, and here it really is not the main thing that should worry us, but first of all, if everyone plays internal political games, it will affect on the procedures we have a guarantee from this, as i call it, a guarantee of assistance to the whole forest, it is more than 20
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billion that have already been approved for this fiscal year, and the administration, and in particular president biden, will have a maneuver here if, after all, these internal political surprises will not affect the approval of aid, i emphasize that so far i see this bipartisan support, but for the procedures and if this support will be included in the laws that will be contortionist second point and i feel this among republicans and democrats, but especially republicans and from different e yes so to speak, the flanks of the republic, the party there say,
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look , we provided more than 50 billion in aid. of states, but the europeans are much less, someone says the figure is 28, someone says 29, but it is about half as much, and if for the democrats this is a question in order to inspire the europeans in a good sense and push them to more, then the republicans will naturally use different vocabulary and such a risk. i see it too. well, the third risk is a very big risk. it is not a risk of today or tomorrow. it is a risk that during the pre-election presidential campaign, someone will try to throw it back into the domestic american politics. some ukrainian topics and i am absolutely sure that the
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kremlin has already prepared a set of scenarios to help this or, on the contrary, to launch these stories, and this will be such a long-term risk that we also have to work strategically with these three groups of risks. i think that we can face others, so again, i don't see any fundamental threats to our help, but we will have to deal with risks and challenges, and this is actually an issue with which we have to work very seriously. only here i will add that the day before the white house even stated that well, they often state that the day before the day before, it was again stated that even after the elections, support for ukraine will be unwavering, but
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i have a question, you mentioned the presidential race. re- election is still two years before the presidential election, but this is not just a pretext. and although joe biden is not elected today, these midterm elections are often viewed as a referendum on the leadership of the president. it seems that donald trump has already started hinting that he will also participate in the next presidential race, and please tell me. if the republicans now have a majority in both houses of representatives, is it possible to say with high probability that he will still be the next president a republican according to such logic that with a publican with a high probable probability probably not, but it will increase the chances of the republicans at the first stage of the campaign it can play and such an angry victim it is with the publicans
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since now there are already several candidates who are playing and several uh who are not talked about publicly but who are evaluating their chances i think that there are those who want that there will be such difficult movements within the republicans, he declared a couple of days ago that it was necessary to literally impeach the leader of the republicans of all nations, mit or makonova, who is usually a supporter of ukraine and did a lot to push the republicans, so in fact it is actually very, very difficult to predict how the republican party will fare now. for example, i am not afraid to engage in such
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general speculations. more precisely, for our viewers, you do not count on the fact that after the congressional elections, aid to ukraine will somehow decrease or slow down , because there is a guarantee in the form of lend-lease and also last week when er advisor sorry, i will correct you not only because there is a guarantee i say that it is such a guarantee in case something goes wrong i really hope that with the help everything will actually be cool, although i drew you several groups of risks that can complicate everything to a certain extent, then malindlists are really a guarantee and a cool guarantee. but i hope that this guarantee will not be needed, and i
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think that we all hope with you. sullivan was in kyiv, and he just assured that the united states will provide financial aid and, er, with the help of weapons for ukraine, regardless of the election results, and er, i have a question for you. and why from your point of view in fact, sally traveled to kyiv exclusively to articulate once again that the aid will be maintained or there could be some other reasons. i think we understand that the aid will be maintained, for this we need to work. this is not some fact that we can live with in the future. nevertheless, we are all confident and ready to work for this. i think that jay sullivan was coming, he had
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several goals, one - this is really to assure that despite possible changes in the representation and in the congress and in the 17th american administration will be a leader, he will not just continue to provide help, you understand what i mean, a will be the leader of the western world, and this is a really critical story, because such a leader is needed without the americans, everything that the west has done would actually be impossible and although we often hear them say that some things should have been much bigger and much faster, and we understand this with our mind and heart, but nevertheless, without them, western aid as we have it would actually be impossible , let's be honest, and we need the united states not
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just as the one who will continue to provide as well as leader, the second point that is very important for sullivan's visit is, of course, to talk. and what are the options for the development of the situation, both from a military point of view and from a political point of view, and this is actually what the national security adviser makes his visits for? after all , his presence on the eve of the election is a person whom biden trusts. this means a lot, but i think that here a combination of these reasons works for kyiv at once. several american publications wrote about the fact that the united states of america allegedly they advise the ukrainian side to publicly declare
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their readiness for negotiations with russia, and information also appeared that the same jake sullivan maintains informal ties with putin's inner circle, and after that sullivan confirmed it, let's listen to what he said . then i will ask a few more questions, it is obvious that quite a lot of time has passed since the telephone conversation, not to mention the face-to-face meeting between the two presidents. but as i have repeatedly said , we have channels for communicating with russia at a high level levels we did this when it was necessary to clarify possible misunderstandings and try to reduce the risk and probability of a disaster, such as the potential use of nuclear weapons, we do not specify what channels these are, although we sometimes, under certain circumstances, point to conversations that take place, for example, between our minister of defense and their minister of defense but we believe that at this basic level of communication, we have channels that can
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continue to work effectively to ensure that russia has a very good understanding of the position of the united states, particularly with regard to the consequences of the potential use of nuclear weapons, well, actually , only after the publication of the journalists did sullivan admit that there were such connections, albeit in the kremlin. they still deny and say no, read all kinds of newspapers, that's how dmytro piskov said when he was asked if he keeps a separate moscow is connected by the kremlin. what are the ties with the united states? what is the point of hiding these ties ? said a few things first, well, it is absolutely clear that the americans have a number of informal e-e tracks for
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talking with the russian regimes, this and that, like the pentagon. where is this track e-e between the military, this is the track, respectively, between sullivan and his counterpart. i am absolutely sure that this is the same this movement also works between the defendants and it has been happening since the cold war. there is the usual roller coaster. it works better. it works worse . no matter how much they say to us, we understand it very well, but the problem is that these are informal conversations, what i call probing
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conversations , and they should not be a problem. we need to have a status, we need to have our own composition of delegations, powers, goals and many more things and negotiations and decision-making through on our heads behind our backs, well, everyone already understands very well that in ukrainian society, it is not to put on the head who i am among my friends there and western acquaintances do not speak, they say that we have such a formula, which is very clear, but we repeat it not because we have it, because it is important for us and that without ukraine there can be no real negotiations and that ukraine should decide on what and at what pace the conditions for doing them, so i don't see any special intrigue here, and the fact that the russians started to move away from this story, they
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want to plant a pig, of course. and we are it we know about this and did not see any topic. the problem was in the case when whatever decision was made, they emphasized behind our backs, but in general, that is why i came to you to talk about, including the conference, what they were about they talk with the russians about what they talk about with the chinese, what they talk about with others, i don't know to what extent it was possible to discuss all this in kyiv, but it definitely had to be a very important part of these closed confidential negotiations with us, this issue in the end, trust and the last question well, what do you still think about what the american press
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writes that the wall street journal allegedly writes that it was said that salliva himself could have asked the ukrainian side publicly to declare readiness for negotiations here it is important that he did not incline to negotiations, namely to declare about readiness, and also the washington post stated a day earlier that the american side is asking the ukrainian side for kyiv to declare readiness for negotiations, if this is true, why is it to the united states, but in fact i saw someone drop this a quote from a newspaper, and there is a slightly different logic, and i hear it from many european politicians and experts, and the americans are right here, they say that it is normal for the ukrainians to decide. of course, the conditions and the fact that the negotiations should be conducted with a strong position. this is absolutely critical. yes, we
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we will determine it, but we understand very well that the west is now a key fundamental for our allies and we will make this decision when under what conditions and whether it is worth playing with them at all and there is also no real indigo european - for washington, this is one of the reasons it is necessary, and there is a lot to say here, is that the europeans when they are told that there will be no negotiations under any conditions, they say yes, of course, we are ready to help ukraine so that it gets a real strong position in the negotiations uh, with russia, but in europe, many people are really afraid, and we know it, and we need to speak frankly about any destabilization of the russian regime, they want our, uh, our
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victory, but their uh, this is the definition of victory, it of course, it is different from ours and the americans also take this into account, it is important for them this is for solidarity with a key ally, it's actually absolutely natural, i don't see any fundamental contradiction here either, thank you very much, i'll just tell our viewers that we will continue the topic of the american elections tomorrow, so that tomorrow there may already be some preliminary results pavlo klimkin minister of foreign affairs of ukraine 14-19 years a diplomat was on radio svoboda, thank you very much well, traditionally, i encourage you
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