tv [untitled] November 8, 2022 9:30pm-10:01pm EET
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. my name is serhiy rudenko. good day and good health to all. today is the 258th day of heroic resistance . of the ukrainian people to the russian occupiers , volodymyr zelenskyi submitted to the verkhovna rada of ukraine projects on extending mobilization and martial law in ukraine, adviser to the president of the united states of america on national issues security jake sullivan confirmed that communication channels between washington and moscow remain open despite the war in ukraine, the office of the president of ukraine stated that they had not given up on negotiations with russia, but the main condition for starting is the complete withdrawal of russian troops from the territory of the ukrainian state, meanwhile, the russian army continues losses to experience losses in manpower and equipment in ukraine as of the morning of november 8,
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russia has already lost 77,170 people in ukraine in the last day alone, the armed forces of ukraine destroyed 710 orks, since the beginning of the great war, the russians have already lost in ukraine 2786 tanks, 5654 armored combat vehicles, 1791 artillery systems, 391 rocket salvo systems, 203 air defense systems, 278 aircraft, 260 helicopters, 4216 units of automotive equipment, 16 boats, 399 cruise missiles - 1476 drones, 1,159 special units. of equipment , the enemy suffered the most losses in the bakhmut and avdiiv directions
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to interfere in the internal affairs of the united states of america through the gypsy, we will talk about this during the next hour, our guest politician, diplomat , minister of foreign affairs of ukraine 2007-2009, volodymyr hryshko, mr. volodymyr, good day and good health to you. greetings, dear serhiy , good health to you and to our dear listeners , i'm sorry, but i'm in a slightly darkened room right now, because there are scheduled blackouts in kyiv, but i don't think it's in any way. i don't think it's demotivating, on the contrary, we understand what it is. is needed in order to defeat this curse of the treaty and i think that this only strengthens our fierce desire to quickly break his spine. thank you, mr. volodymyr, that despite such a difficult situation in kyiv with light, you appeared on the air of our tv channel,
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friends. i want to remind you that we are working on several at once platforms on the air of the espresso tv channel, as well as social networks on facebook and youtube. on youtube , we are conducting a survey. question, we will start our conversation with the following questions . moreover, we have already talked about this a lot during the negotiations, and we will still talk about it again during this program, because there is a lot of information that the united states of america and western countries are increasingly talking about the fact that such negotiations necessary, but on the terms of the ukrainian state. so, a simple question, volodymyr, are negotiations between putin and zelenskyi or zelenskyi and putin necessary? well, i think the question should be asked in a slightly different way. is occupied by russia, and in particular, they want
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to freeze the conflict by actually involving ukraine in negotiations, so we absolutely do not need such negotiations. if we follow the logic of president zelensky, who clearly formulated the first point by all others, the withdrawal of russian troops from the territory of ukraine as of 1991, that is, to the internationally recognized borders of ukraine, this does not in any way coincide with putin's position, therefore , the question here seems more rhetorical to me, and we must say that ukraine is definitely wants we wanted peace, we must say that you definitely want to end this war as soon as possible, but the main thing, first of all, should be to deny the withdrawal of russia from the entire territory of ukraine, if this
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condition is fulfilled . russia to sit together with our allies and conduct joint negotiations with the russian federation on the terms of ukraine and on the terms of the civilized world to which ukraine and all the countries of the west belong, mr. volodymyr, let's listen to what zelensky said about the possibility his negotiations with vladimir putin to the kind of negotiations that we have repeatedly proposed and to which we have always received crazy russian responses with new terrorist attacks, shelling or blackmail once again restoration of territorial integrity respect for the un charter compensation for all damages caused by the war punishment of every war criminal and guarantees that this will not happen again this is absolutely the conditions are clear, french president
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manuel macron advocated peace talks between ukraine and russia, but only on kyiv's terms and at a time when it would be convenient for ukraine. parties that were previously convinced, i assume that even now at some point we will have to return to the negotiating table, at the same time, he noted that this should be done on the terms and term that will be chosen by ukraine, and the position of ukraine has already been voiced repeatedly by president zelensky, well, there is a corresponding decision of the security council of national security and defense of ukraine, and according to this decision, there can be no negotiations unless there is actually a return to the format of restoring the territorial integrity of ukraine as of 24 august 1991, mr. volodymyr, could there be negotiations for the russian federation as one of the
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ways of another hybrid war against ukraine, one of the elements according to which negotiations will be held in parallel, but still the war will continue in one way or another as it actually was after minsk, one and the city 2 well, you all know the importance of the negotiations with the russian federation and here you know that now you have again given the position that the president has now announced zelensky is there too this last point about which he talks about the security guarantee. well, that's right. waiting for security guarantees from russia is the same as talking about uh. well, i don't know. it's been a long time since it snowed outside of the year, and it never will be.
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security guarantees from er this springy neighbor er security guarantees can only be er our full- fledged and fast even astronad nothing else against which the russian federation is catastrophically and categorically opposed. so if we just break it all down so to speak separate pieces then we will see that on each of them the positions of ukraine and russia are opposite and they cannot be different, because it is about russia, which has violated all norms of international law and continues to commit genocidal crimes, not just war crimes, crimes which have signs of genocide, so negotiate and fight, well , in my opinion, this is the worst scenario imaginable , that president macron, like some others, all
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the time talks very well about negotiations, but these negotiations must be about the fact that the russian after its military failure in ukraine, the federation should be really de-metallized, that is, it should be removed from our borders by 200-300 kilometers, and any of its armed formations, that it will not have the right to sell weapons on the world market means that it will not have the right to produce certain types of weapons and so on, and it will be possible to enter into negotiations on this . belong to ukraine too then it will be possible to really talk about the negotiations, but for now it's just er, well, you know, er, conversations are about nothing, because if there is no subject of negotiations
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, then there are no negotiations themselves, and talking about it in order to simply, as they say, three little er- to fluctuate. i think it is not the level of the president of such a country as they work, but why, mr. volodymyr, does the west keep repeating, well, in one or another configuration, everything will still have to be negotiated, of course, russia must concede in ukraine and on ukrainian terms . as macron says, the negotiations are going along the line the highest leaders of the united states of america and , respectively, russia, or why does the west always talk about these negotiations with putin? and why is there no rhetoric that ukraine will negotiate with the next president of the russian federation, for example, or why the west does not close this is the door for vladimir putin and does not let
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him understand that what he did in ukraine is already a crime and he will have to answer for this crime, why does the west still allow that someone with putin will agree on something even if in in the extended format, there are several er reasons er reasons er that can be divided into er into groups , that is, there are er reasons that can be called er invental for many western politicians and today russia continues to be great foreign and the russians and the great people well, let's remember the last simply screaming er for his own or for his own or for his baseness or senselessness the statement of the pontiff that he is very surprised how is it that
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such facts of cruelty are actually er the great russian people he is well very very nice and very gentle and such things simply do not belong to him, well, it would seem that it is not for some there eh 25 the cardinal of the unknown in which country is this, after all, the holy throne speaks through his mouth and he says such things, well, what if macron eh i grew up on the fact that russia is a great country with which you need to be friends and you need to maintain contacts with it and the like and so on. are the same german politicians who were fed by the kremlin for decades and so on ? did not work in moscow propaganda until the last during the time of those same france, germany absolutely freely and calmly told fairy tales and
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created the corresponding public opinion and definitely worked and still had the same effect on these politicians who are in power today and the same macron of the same e scholtz there 's steinmeier and so on, that's why you don't need it because it's the inertia of thinking that hasn't gone anywhere, it's still there, it's there, it's the second block - it's the nuclear one, that's what they fear the most in all the western capitals, without exception, and that's why they believe that it is better to agree with putin on some conditions than to endanger the existence of humanity because putin's logic is more true to his propaganda that i am crazy they don't touch me because i can press the red button and then what will happen next that's why this is
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also a very serious restraining factor when they try to find some ways. well, if not negotiations, then at least the conviction that it is impossible to do such things is not necessary. well, and the third element, no matter what, it is still economic and despite the fact that all the sanctions about what are we we say they are introduced, they act and so on and so on, but at the same time economic ties are preserved and it is not so easy and simple to abandon them within one year, let's say that this complex of factors affects the position of plus, let's not forget that russia is now trying to present ukraine through its psychological operations as one that does not want to negotiate, that refuses to negotiate, and then the public in the west asks questions, wait
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. well, we, ukraine, support our governments and help. but why does ukraine not want to sit down at the negotiating table, this is the end of the war and this pacifism in the brain, pseudo-pacifism in the brain, it works the same way. so here is a whole series of moments that, in the end, force western politicians to talk about it, but you are even in the statement of macron have read what are we for negotiations, someday we will have to sit down for these negotiations, but here goes the main part of the sentence on the terms of kyiv, and kyiv has expressed its terms . this summit should take place next week in indonesia at the ball, and president zelenskyi said that if vladimir putin is there, then ukraine and,
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accordingly, president zelenskyi will not be present at this very conference, and today there was information that it is possible that zelenskyi will join today , information appeared online about the possibility that putin can participate virtually in this meeting of the g20 against the background of what has been happening over the past nine months or so. putin's participation in the g20 summit is appropriate. and what will it mean for the world if putin even sits virtually among the leaders of the 24 largest countries in the world and is perceived in the same way as he was until february 24, 2022? well, you know i was somewhere a few weeks ago back in my twitter, i wrote that according to my estimates and
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analysis of those 25 who are coming from russia, that putin will not go to indonesia, and it seems to me that these latest statements confirm the correctness of my conclusions, because it is obvious that er run into the scandal, moreover, the scandal is so loud and so obvious that the risks will obviously be outweighed by potential photos with several executives belonging to the countries of the twenty, then the entire western world will obviously ignore it and will add as much as possible in their speeches i think that the speeches will be very undiplomatic, and against this background, the statements of several leaders of the countries of south
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africa, or indonesia, or some other country, or brazil. well, they are unlikely to become so that will save him from this world-wide shame, that's why i think that a decision has been made to go this virtual way, that you can always stop at any moment, he spoke as it is now traditionally done by russian diplomacy in the person of lavrova right here ran away from here, it’s the same. it will probably be the same this time when putin, er, take it, er, unload his next piece of nonsense. after that, he will thank you and disappear from the screen so as not to hear what people will say to him about president zelensky. i think er participation is absolutely er logical and correct er because in i hope his address will once again be placed firmly above and clearly and clearly focused
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on those key points that the leaders of the twenty countries should hear. i think that such an approach will be supported by the civilized countries that will participate in this summit, so i think that this is exactly the optimal option that we have today, because of course zelensky cannot leave ukraine today for such a long period of time and putin understands that apart from the total informational and political catastrophe, he doesn't know anything there, friends, we are working live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our social networks on facebook , the broadcast is also on youtube, if you are watching now on youtube, please like this video, vote in our poll, we
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ask you whether zelensky talks with putin are needed, yes, no, or take your option , write it in the comments. well, you can become a sponsor of our youtube channel under our video, there is a sponsor button, you can choose a sponsor the package is small and help the development of our youtube channel, mr. volodymyr, i wanted to ask you more about the president of turkey, recep tayyip erdogan , because in the last two weeks, we have seen how turkey's position affects the situation in the south of ukraine, in particular, in the black sea basin . russia's exit and entry of the grain agreement as the president of turkey is quite simple. obviously, it looked simple on the outside, as he did put putin back in place, and before the grain agreement, we know that
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this grain agreement was signed by the un on the one hand turkey and russia from another un, turkey and ukraine, and now there was information that turkey did not allow russian warships into the black sea, although they were in the mediterranean sea, and there were these two ships with the letters z and in the chives, this is a missile cruiser of the varangian pacific fleet and the big anti-draft ship admiral tributs, they stood there because at the beginning of the war they came there to the mediterranean sea, but the turks did not let these two ships pass, how do you assess erdoğan’s position now, taking into account the fact that, after all, he he is trying to introduce some kind of dialogue with the russians. he is talking about this gas hub that they want to create for the sale of russian gas on the territory of turkey. they are conducting some kind of economic dialogue and
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developing economic ties despite the fact that most countries have imposed economic sanctions against russia. what is the role of the president in the current situation turkey. well, you know. in my opinion, this role is ambiguous, and you are right. sergei, you mentioned the positive steps taken by ordigan . well, and about the fact that these ships were standing still of the russian fleet for 8 months in the mediterranean sea well , now they have turned back because there is no point in standing any longer, they will soon have to be repaired, eh, erdoğan responded harshly to the fact that putin began to blackmail with this termination of their participation in the lake, well, it will stop on health, stop yourself. and how is this water? this water worked and will continue to work. that is, these are the things that moscow
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hears and to which they are forced to react, and that they are so uh, well, uh, quickly, after literally a couple of days, they restored this his share in this grain in the agreement only, however, how vulnerable they are , how dependent they are, and how much they are, well, as they once said, and petty-mindedness, that is, how much they really lack what is called dignity, this is a country that adapts to everything, that micro she is lying, she is constantly trying to create problems for everyone, do you understand the tragedy of this entire territory - this is a territory that lives at the expense of the suffering of others , and she imposed this suffering throughout her entire history on all those who were nearby and not only nearby, but i think that all this will soon
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come to an end. ferdinand is definitely playing the game in this regard. he is, that is, a permanent victory , victory and all opposition to russia, because then he demonstrates to the west that he is with them, although this is such a rather conditional support. he could do much more, on the other hand, he also plays with russia and helps her to a certain extent to avoid the already extremely difficult consequences that she would have to feel as a result of all the sanctions. -e cardigan is trying on this to earn political points inside the country, he has presidential elections ahead of him, he has a difficult economic situation, so
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he is trying not to spoil relations with his foreign partners with this line, and at the same time , to help the turkish economy, which is far from to be called, so to speak, effective and brilliant. therefore, this is a kind of traditional byzantine position and policy. i think that it will continue in the same way perfectly. can mr. volodymyrets include this byzantine policy in himself and the mediation between russia and ukraine, because ern has been talking a lot about the very last nine months about the fact that we are ready to provide a platform for talks between putin and zelensky, either in vankari or in istanbul, and become mediators in this situation or give putin is the mediation of erdogan and this status of a peacemaker, is putin still, despite the visiting relations with erdogan, which
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he has been showing for the last month? yes , he is talking a lot about erdogan , is putin still not going to ignore the position erdoğan in this situation. i think that it is still erdoğan's game , uh, for his own image. he needs uh, he needs this image of a peacemaker, he needs this image of a person who brings people together, well, look at the second army of the world, the great power, uh, ukraine the whole west is behind her, and here i am, uh, the turkish president. i'm doing everything to get them to sit down at the negotiating table. now they are wrapping up. because the reason here is that there is no candy, there is no candy because the positions of those who could negotiate
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continue to be diametrically opposed , zelensky and putin cannot sit down at the negotiating table. because putin is a war criminal and sit down with him at the negotiating table, it means admitting that war crimes can be committed. and after that to negotiate with this criminal it e then crosses out sorry all our efforts e are related to the fact that we want to bring to justice these same war criminals then we should not talk about the creation of an international special e of the tribunal, because this particular tribunal should deal with such characters as putin, his sycophants . more and more
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civilized countries, that's why i think that the wrongdoer in this case continued these efforts, he will talk about the fact that he wants to help everyone, but he was drawn into himself, he understands that all this will not happen, but he continues for his own voters to create the image of a great world politician , a politician who can influence not only regional but also global processes, and this is definitely a plus for him on the eve of the presidential elections, mr. volodymyr, another person who in one way or another is trying to demonstrate some efforts, but what efforts actually benefiting vladimir putin is oleksandr lukashenko with or declared
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