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the most important thing 14:00 30:00 khrystyna yatskiv by the way, antina, i am thinking about the g20 summit, i am worried about how ukraine will be presented, of course no. in fact, by the way, khrystyna, i would send you as far as possible, for example, and a correspondent to the g20 summit at a ball, yes. for now that there is no winter. well, if you haven’t finished, why is ukraine without me ? brics, let me remind you of this organization. where does the russian federation, which was created? well, let's say it tried to be created as a counterweight to the north atlantic alliance in particular, who is there to talk to in the context of the fact that the real threat
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to the world is obviously already the russian federation, the question is the creation of a certain solidarity mechanism which did not attract non-leading countries that are part of the g7, but also an extremely important country that, well, very often russia can use for its one or another interests , but just for example, take brazil now. well, there also interesting are the political processes taking place in connection with the last elections. well, is brazil and the united states under the rapprochement, because the elected leader is now, for a long time, loyal to joseph biden and his politics, but for this everyone needs to follow very carefully and subtly, and i hope that our ukrainian analytics will help us in this, which is also being improved, so in the meantime, important news arrives. so, our general staff is convinced that the wagner line will not stop the armed forces of ukraine, but for
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literally, our fighters are monitoring the actions of the enemy and are preparing to attack the defensive fortifications known as the wagner line in the occupied part of donbas. this was reported by the deputy chief of the main operational department of the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine, brigadier general oleksiy gromov. at today's briefing, engineering barriers are literally intended to either stop or complicate the advance of the enemy's troops it can be both explosive and non -explosive barriers, but history has quite a lot of examples when each weapon was made the means of countermeasures is so appropriate. we have, among other things, means of overcoming mine explosive barriers. we are carefully studying the progress of the reconstruction of the so-called line and are thinking about how to overcome it. of research, elmiro, we congratulate you glory to ukraine glory to the heroes congratulations,
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alarming news is being reported from the occupied crimean peninsula, the humanitarian group of the expert network of the crimean platform has learned that the crimean packaging material for the removal of museum collections was brought to chersonesus, these are paintings stolen by the russian occupiers from the chersonesus art museum, they were found in the central taurid museum in simferopol, the press service of the museum reported. obviously, certain things are happening in the cultural sphere on the crimean peninsula, which unfortunately will have consequences the fact that when ukraine returns to the crimea, it simply may not find part of its cultural and historical heritage ms. elmira, how important it is to monitor it and maybe there are some levers of influence on do you understand the situation, language, historical memory and culture, this is the basis on which national identity is built, and it is precisely on this
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that special attention was constantly applied to the russian federation . unfortunately, since the 14th year, we have already recorded certain violations related to the protection of cultural heritage objects in the territory of crimea, and since february 2022, we have already seen the destruction of cultural heritage objects on the territory of ukraine and in the combat zone, e-e, the evacuation program of the crimean museums. unfortunately, e-e was approved back in 2017, and we talked about it and paid attention to it e-e. today, i think that additional e-e packaging materials are really related with these
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things that were stolen from the occupied territories of ukraine occupied by the russian federation - this is melitopol, kherson, kherson, etc. unfortunately, we can only record all these movements, destruction, damage , etc. for today. how to counter this unfortunately, how to me. today, we see such a strategic strategy of actions of the authorities in relation to cultural heritage objects and the protection of cultural heritage objects, such fragmentary jerks or such tactical actions are very good, but why are we doing it? it seems to me so complete we don't have the paintings. that is, we record, there is a certain monitoring of
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the documentation of these damages and destructions that concern immovable cultural heritage objects, which is currently being carried out by a certain group a under its ministry of culture and information policy now there are very good efforts to create monitoring of archaeological heritage sites, but why are we doing it, we are doing it in order to record this damage caused by the russian federation to cultural objects and objects object of cultural heritage, we are doing this in order to prepare certain evidence for the use of elmira in documenting crimes, and here we come to an extremely interesting moment , which was specifically mentioned by their crosses on yatsk, we understand. so there are no anonymous criminals in the russian federation if they take our
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museum exhibits from the temporarily occupied territories , they bring them to certain museums. the russian museum is a separate legal entity that can fall under international sanctions and can be completely cut off from oxygen to russian museum workers , because if stolen property stolen from the ukrainian people ends up, for example, in the same hermitage of some kostroma landscape museum or some other unimportant powerful museum to some third-party, so there will be grounds in the event of something to seize russian collections that can to be exhibited at the event, at the same time it would be worthwhile to attract the widest possible number of international specialists, experts and law enforcement agencies, and the same interpolists. this is how we talk about the application of specific sanctions against the directors and employees of
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russian museums who are engaged in hiding stolen goods. this article is absolutely correct, but we need to think more. on restitution, that is, the return of these objects and, accordingly, certain reparations that the russian federation must pay for the damage it caused, including objects cultural heritage, but we also need to register and work on this, because the international legal mechanism of restitution itself is very problematic, it is very complicated, and it is simply not done that way. we have to prepare for this, as i remember, like the women with kyiv gold, which we actually won back for so long and which they lost again, i will remind you that as i imagine, everything that can be stolen is stolen and taken away, but let them answer, but here is another key point, there is a positive signal in this news,
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as khrystyna reported. so we understand if the enemy is starting to pack, that means we are collecting natki, please share ms. elmira, perhaps some additional formation, yes, regarding these enemy preparations for escape . you understand, i have positive positive news. of cultural heritage, and russia, unfortunately, is taking away these objects that are connected with ukrainian history and culture with crimean tatar history and culture for at least two centuries. that's why these next evacuations can lead to the fact that we will lose some objects for which we will then fight for a very long time in order to return them to their place of origin, and this is precisely why it is important that ukraine
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takes care in advance and until the decisive moment in order to preserve its own heritage . i will not tell you what part of the expositions of various museums , for example, in donbas, ended up under occupation only because evacuation plans were not developed in time, how many military personnel and volunteers instead of doing eh to a greater extent eh people actually took these exhibits away on their shoulders, it is terrible, there is no such thing. thank you , mrs. elmira, for drawing our attention to this important problem . they will take something out of the federation, and there, believe me, it is important news , of course, from the ministry of defense of the russian federation, which cannot be true, so to speak
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, but perhaps there is something in it. they inform kherson of the maneuvers, where according to the plan , that is, their escape or the attempt to lead their troops, they consider it a maneuver and everything is happening in strict accordance with the approved plan, and so on, and the armed forces of ukraine are helping them to escape extremely strongly, by forcing them to move in the kherson region with bayonets and artillery they call it a maneuver. putin already calls ukraine a partner, and it's actually a separate story. well, now we'll talk about what still connects us with russia. 300 years of russian enslavement of our country refers to the events of the 17th and 18th centuries, when the russian emperors successively limited ukrainian autonomy, and the key role here was played by empress catherine ii, who finally abolished the
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hetmanate on november 10, 1764, and it was on the eve of this anniversary that the question of dismantling the monument arose catherine in odesa, about this our next story is surrounded by a fence and wrapped in a black bag odesa is preparing for the dismantling of the monument to catherine ii, so decided the majority of odessans who took part in organized by the city authorities, the final decision must be made by the city council at the next session, which will begin. at the end of november, the mayor of odesa, gennadiy trukhanov, who was against the demolition of the monument back in august, has now changed his mind. personally, i will vote for dismantling the monument and moving it to the park of the imperial and soviet past, about the idea of ​​the creation of which i told a few months ago , in the near future, the final point will be put in this matter within the framework of generally accepted
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of democratic norms and current ukrainian legislation, the founder in odessa is officially called the monument to the russian empress, the people called it kateryna and her lovers , the monument was erected back in 2007, activists suspect that it caused disunity, the kremlin government organization, which for a long time planted in russian symbols in ukraine, the local authorities delayed the dismantling of the monument even after february 24, saying that many odessans were against it and as if it was catherine ii who founded odessa and the same odessa existed long before several centuries to catherine ii, the territory of southern ukraine is the territory that at one time belonged to the troops of the zaporizhzhya ukrainian state or to the crimean khanate, and therefore to say that it was a wasteland that appeared on the world map only after the appearance of the russians there is absolutely not, absolutely, absolutely not unfair and no nothing to do with history , the results of the vote of odessa residents regarding the dismantling of the monument were made public on the eve of the anniversary of one
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of the decrees of the russian empress on november 10, 1764. she finally liquidated the hetmanship to this year, kateryna destroyed zaporizhzhya sich and fortified the peasants of the left bank and slobozhanshchyna. at the beginning of the occupation of kherson, the russians promised to erect a monument to kateryna on the same place where lenin used to stand. imperial monuments are an obvious symbol of russian claims to ukrainian lands, therefore, anti-colonial policy was activated in ukraine, as part of which the monument is being dismantled yantics to russian figures and renaming topographical objects, well, i would like to thank my colleagues for this extremely interesting and emotional story on a painful topic for all of us, we understand that ukraine should be cleansed of the imperial soviet and so on of the past, well, vadym poznyakov , co-founder of the project, decommunization of ukraine, should be in touch with us now. glory to ukraine, mr. speaker. well, are you preparing to change
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the name of your project, so because it is somewhat narrowed , decommunization is about a much broader de-russification, we understand that it turned out that we have not a field, not a plowed field of imperial monuments, yes, which somehow lasted until the 22nd year in general. do you keep statistics and what are the objects, i don't even know the most disgusting for you and what should be paid attention to now, so to speak, which monuments, and in fact there is a lot of work even in the spectrum of decommunization, that is, we haven't finished a lot of jokes, but it's just that, even just now, the guys sent me photos from kharkiv region which uh, from the purchased villages, and there is a picture of a venison, uh, published in the october revolution, and so on and so on, and about the good news, and just now the guys uploaded photos from odesa, did they deface
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a monument to pushkin, one of the monuments to pushkin and local residents hint that it should also be finally removed and in general, since the beginning of the large-scale invasion, at least 500 different objects have been dismantled. also a minus, that is, the process is now very active, at least 1,000 streets are renamed every month, and with communist russian imperial names, that is, there is still a lot of work, but the process is moving, the process is now underway very actively and in some moments it is even faster than the process of decommunization after the law was adopted, that is, there is no such law on diversification or decolonization, but the process moves even without it and very actively because there is a very large demand from below, a very large demand from the people is definitely there the request is great. revolutionary expediency, we like to call such things as
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relevant historical moments, but as practice shows, this enthusiasm and request is enough for a certain period, and after that everything starts to slip that is why it is not worth thinking about the systematic approach of changing the legislation of our country in the context of decolonization of humanitarian policy in general, there are at least two draft laws, one from the opposition, the other from the party in power, they are very similar, even among themselves, they will already think about somehow coordinating together and create a legislative initiative that would be adopted and really ensure a normal sustainable approach to humanitarian policy, but for now we are patching holes as we identify them as they appear isn't that right? yes, of course, the law is necessary. i support the draft law, which, as far as i remember , was submitted by mykola knyazhytsky, that is, i studied it , read it, and i fully support it
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. on the territory of ukraine, which fall under the effect of actually, your laws on decommunization are indicated above and they have not yet been dismantled, they were dismantled only recently, well, that is, even now in odessa you can calmly walk somewhere kilometers from the center and see a huge image of lenin, that is, that it is still doing something in kyiv, in your opinion, why, despite the current legislation, did we have these symbols all this time, they were not refined, or maybe they were openly sabotaged by the local self- government bodies in the respective locations was the local resistance so strong? well, i don’t know. maybe the residents of some village there defended that stalin or lenin whom you mentioned. well, in fact, there are several moments that caused the process to stall in general.
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large-scale suppression, and i will say that it still moved, i.e. not at such a pace as now, but in 2021 zai was renamed in ukraine, too, 2,000 streets were dismantled, about 300 or 400 monuments of various signs were dismantled, that is, the process did not stop that is, if there is simply more attention to him now, it does not mean that he was not there, but there were several such moments or that he slipped, the first thing is his openness to them, that is, a number of heads of local self-government bodies who simply waited or are waiting for russia and i am not surprised that there are some and the stigs who openly mocked us and said that they would not do anything, they simply then went over to the side of russia. this is how gennady matsagura had the city of kupyansk of the kharkiv region, that is, there are actually quite a lot of such examples, but on a slightly smaller scale, but this is the best one an example is gennadiya matsyugov from the city of kupyansk well, just the capital, the city of kyiv, yes,
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we have seen the footage of the dismantling of this bust of pushkin, yes, in general, it looks convincing , that is, people can dismantle it, of course they wanted to to make it look somehow more delicate because they threw a slur on the biostik, although maybe two repairmen there could give themselves joy to all that, but here, you understand, the monument to shorsu, the monument to vatutin in kyiv, so to speak, the past of our spirituality and so on and so further, something is still debated, how much can be debated? what do you think is going on with the capitalist? well, here is already a personally nostalgic position . the kingdom of heaven has decided to remove shchors or vatutin from that horse and that's all, but there is already a decision of the
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kyiv city council to dismantle these objects, and yesterday at a meeting of the commission of the ministry of culture, they also made a decision to dismantle the monuments in their vatutin, so what do you or i think about i learned this and we will already follow all this and try to do it anyway because it happened faster. that is, after all, all parties have already said that they are loading up these decisions. that is, the first depends only on political will. that is, all the others everything that was needed to dismantle these two monuments is already there, that is, theoretically, you have to go to klychko, and he can already by law send utility workers. i don't know where there will be a repository. i don't know where all the relics of the soviet-imperial past will be stored. one of them is state-owned in the city of putivl, sumy region, and
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there, as far as i know, the number of communist monuments has already surpassed the well-known one. the lithuanian museum, that is, few people here know about it , it is this museum, we helped there together with the institute of national remembrance regarding the large-scale invasion to hold a lot of unique monuments and they themselves brought a lot of things with them. that is, it is interesting and already such a museum. yes there you still need to think about the concept of the tour guide, but in general there is already an incredibly large number of these monuments that you can go see and i understand that they are slowly replenishing their bases anyway. i apologize i visited during the occupation when there were russians in sumy oblast. as far as i remember , the appearance of this museum somehow changed after they left. maybe you know, maybe they took something with them, stole the lenin monuments. well, if they took the washing machines away and that's why they twisted the
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remains of their idols from the kherson region to take them away. well, it's obvious. this is important for them. well, as i understand it, the museum itself is just a little bit not in putivla , but below it in the forest. i understand it. well, from what i know , after all, monuments there in place and remained perhaps they simply did not know, and when they received the russians near kiev, they simply did not think about it, and that is why, as far as i know, it remained there. well, if we return to our equally glorious odessa, they also spent an extremely long time thinking about the role of empress catherine ii in the history of the ukrainian people. of the polish people, well, it's as if the ice has melted. yes, but you believe that a clear dismantling will take place, and what fate will befall this particular monument? i believe that catherine the second will be dismantled, it will finally happen after yesterday pushkin was removed from kharkiv. i will say that well, i already believed in the finality, that is, i am sure that they will be
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removed, that is, the question is only a matter of time. well, there will be a session of the odessa city council at the end of november, and this issue will be considered. i am sure that they will vote on they won't be able to overturn this decision now, if even the mayor of odesa supports it and we will put pressure on it, i think the public will push this monument as soon as possible. after the decision, it was dismantled. maybe even in the same one. it has been a question for many years, in fact . and if we take, for example, the methodology. yes, we understand that we have quite a lot of relics of the soviet or russian imperial past, and we understand that catherine ii - this is not even about the greatness of the russian empire, but about specific crimes against the ukrainian people against the polish people and so on against freedom as such in central europe in general, i.e., to those places where its bloody paws could reach, but questions of methodology, for example, kateryna we clean up
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well-deserved but what about richelieu himself and accordingly further down the list i want to say that there was a big minus of the law on decommunization, which, after all, was not spelled out in the law itself, a list of the names of e-e persons in relation to whom it is necessary to dismantle monuments and rename streets i still believe that here it is necessary to define the working group has a clearly defined to make a clearly defined list, and after working through it with the peculiarities of each region, odesa, kharkiv region, transcarpathia, we understand that in transcarpathia, in fact, there is a process decolonization should also be activated because there is a specific feature of hungarian colonization in that the street named after hungarian national figures, the central square of uzhhorod is named after their most famous poet, shandov petefi, who was only once in uzhhorod, that is, there are many such
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uh, the russian empress but i would also like to move on to one extremely difficult case , which sounds like mother's family in kyiv, respectively. what do you think, how will this process unfold? the last object with which the issue will be resolved, because it is probably the most difficult situation in general in terms of decommunization, personally, my position is personal, my position is very many, some do not like it, but mother nature, well, it just needs to be removed, because it is a huge imperial, huge soviet stamps that are sown above kiev, which in fact, it eats up these kiev hills that rise and dominate that the soviet symbol dominates over kyiv in general. that is , it is not there, i will just say one such moment that it is very unlikely that it will somehow succeed
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to adequately rethink it, to mold a trident instead of a sickle hammer - this is also a very bad idea, in fact, that is, very difficult. i think that we will all return to the nematians when the main number of monuments will simply be dismantled and there will really be a very extensive discussion among water currents in the case of the mother's family. i'm sorry, what undercurrents did you say about what is the environment? it stood there because certain people still have some nostalgic moments for it, some just want to preserve as much of the statue as possible in the city, the biggest problem is that even carrying out the process of dismantling this object is as technically difficult as possible, that is, even replacing hammer sickles with
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tridents is very it is problematic to carry out a complete dismantling. similarly, it is difficult, that is, the question of even the technical dismantling of this building will be incredibly difficult for all of us, that is, we must approach it so as not to blame everything, everything around it is incredibly big a sculpture made of an incredibly large amount of metal , well, about the motherland, and here the problem is that for many, its image has grown with the image of the city, that is, if we are talking about odessa, well, odessa is associated with many things, but somehow, well, not with memories you know kateryna's jailhouse as her main symbol, but the motherland is the motherland for the people of kyiv. it's just something very interconnected in this, there is a certain piquancy of the situation, public activism and for participating in the live broadcast of the espresso tv channel, vadym
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poznyakov, co-founder of the decommunization project ukraine was working now live on the air. we are moving on, khrystyna, and i am just reminding you that on our broadcast, we are collecting money together with the public association ridy and junior for the purchase of silencers for our defenders and defenders - these are important devices for our soldiers which allow them to carry out the relevant tasks as quietly as possible when necessary, if you understand what it is about , the polish campaign workers also joined the collection, and for every hryvnia we collected , they add one more, and we have an absolutely real chance double everything that we will collect now on your screens you can see the qr-code in the corner - in the corner scan it please go to the details and do the donation according to your capabilities it will be important absolutely for ukraine's own security for
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the defense capability of our state and for the success of our boys and girls on the fronts glory to ukraine glory to the heroes well, we pass the floor to our colleagues from the news editorial office and khrystyna, so iryna koval will now tell what has happened in ukraine and the world in the last hour. congratulations and i invite you to speak thank you colleagues, i will tell you about the situation in different regions of ukraine, etc

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