restrictions on rapprochement with ukraine, although we have seen that turkey was not afraid of russia's objections in the matter of taking rectors and such a class of weapons well, but i still think that the main thing is decided by money, who will pay who and how much will be paid, eh. well, we have to understand that the country is currently living not from its own taxes, well, at least half of it, and half of our income is international borrowing, what will they give us, what will they give us, and do you have the feeling that ukrainian opak actually has a prospect because we are such the impression is that ukraine as a market for the sale and use of foreign military equipment is interesting to our partners in the future. and from the point of view of our agro-industrial complex , it can only be tangential to the maintenance of projects that have already been developed by such monster-like foreign companies, and we are left with nothing but maintenance and frequent modernization. and when we we are talking about our projects

, so we will limit the restrictions and technological access there to the element base and so on, such risks exist from the point of view of the future of our pc i i think that there are our large, well, such system enterprises that were giants, they really have very difficult times, they just have to enter in secondary roles, it’s just hard to imagine how they can survive, but there is another option in europe with the market of the united states. i think it will remain closed, but well, it is possible to try there, but in europe, a project aimed at supporting the defense industry at the level of small and medium-sized businesses is very actively developing, but europeans see this as a great strategic opportunity for the creation of a single market, large system enterprises, giants, it is difficult to integrate them into such a common market, but they are also working on this, but it’s just a reminder this year, it seems literally,

literally, literally, literally, this is now announced, this is the first such situation when from the budgets the european union has allocated 500 million euros specifically for defense procurement and not for a specific country, but specifically for enterprises for which it is interesting. it is interesting for small and medium-sized enterprises . years and it is open. i think that ukraine has every right to ask questions about participation in such projects. i did not look at what the order is, who can participate, but i think that ukrainian companies can participate in such projects, of course, such contracts are small, they are auxiliary to broader projects, but it is very important that it is the

european budget, it is not national budgets, it is the european budget, and it is specifically for the defense order for europe as a whole, and there, after all, the sum of 500 million euros was not small, and it is open to at least of all european countries. i think that here we can try, we can enter into cooperation with our partners with poland at least and apply for such orders . the territory of the european union by creating a joint venture or projects that were standardized there according to the requirements of the european defense agency in order to understand whether we really have such a bridgehead in europe in order to proceed with those projects and with the use of those finances that you talked about a little earlier well, i frankly do not know, i did not follow this, we know that there were enough attempts in the past, uh, in the

past, to enter the european markets. i think there is some experience and well, i was even once under the leadership of those who created a representative office in european capitals, but i am not sure that this is relevant now. there are projects in which our partners are interested. well, for example, there is the production of polish crabs, for example, for ukraine, we need to look here, but i do not know specifically. i think there are opportunities, but i don’t know specifically whether we have such enterprises that are ready right now, and at the end of our conversation, i would like you to single out projects or directions in the creation of military equipment of this type of weapons that should really be implemented on a national basis in the format must have must have its own, so what can it be? well, we need new artillery and we have to produce ammunition ourselves. i think for this one

, it's just a matter of learning how to make new barrels. well , of course, the ammunition for the ground forces is new, which allows you to fight right now, well, they will go further. i think rockets are from rocketry, field missiles, well, about aviation. i certainly do not think that we need to ask questions in order to produce the full cycle of our aviation, except that we will restore there transport aviation and i am not sure that we will we be able to restore the full cycle or create a full cycle for naval weapons? and what we have, of course, we must have our own artillery, our missiles have been localized and ammunition for the ground forces, well, this is absolutely mandatory. it seems to me thanks for these explanations, i think we

will raise this topic in our future programs, and i will remind our viewers that oleksiy ezhyak, an expert of the national institute of strategic studies, was on the air of the espresso channels. and now we have vyacheslav otseluyko a military analyst, now a serviceman of the special operations forces of the armed forces of ukraine and vyacheslav. i congratulate you if you see me. good day. thank you for finding the opportunity to appear on our air between hostilities, and that's why i want to talk rather, not about conceptual approaches to the use of weapons, but about current practice on the battlefield. when we usually talk about combat operations, we immediately mention artillery, as we mentioned with oleksiy mashak, who says that you need to create your own artillery and ammunition literally there a couple of days ago, there were statistics from the pentagon, which tells that due to the supply of artillery, the rate

of use of ammunition per day has increased to 7,000 shells. that we are actually destroying their warehouses and their supply systems, now they have a rate of live fire per day dropped there from 40-50 thousand to 20,000 per day, which is a decrease . in your area of ​​the front where you know what is happening, how is it happening from the point of view of artillery, is there an advantage of the enemy or is there a certain superiority in the approaches to the conduct of hostilities? well, i would not say that the enemy has an advantage. that is , it is quantitative. you have already said that about the number of shells, but the ukrainian artillery has a qualitative advantage primarily due to the use of excalibur guided shells, this

allows our artillery to consider such small targets, i.e. individual tanks, individual units of light armored vehicles, i.e. what to hit with conventional shells requires a lot of medium, a lot of time, now such fire tasks are solved by two snares, that is, due to the technical superiority of the ukrainian artillery, even despite the fact that the russians produce more weapons per day. artillery so what can be said here? you can’t even talk about hovering, but about a certain advantage of our artillery. well , thanks to such systems as hai barsu, of course, ukraine is much ahead of the enemy, well, this is really good news, and then if through the prism of these artillery approaches, we will look at this

kherson operation, which is now on everyone's ear, is it possible to talk about what exactly at the expense of the missile-artillery approach of the advantages we just forced the authorities to join and should everything be equal then it's just a matter of supporting the infantry forces well, in fact, thanks to the use of haibas missile systems, ukraine managed to significantly worsen the supply of the russian group on the right bank of the dnieper, that is, it was this logistical problem that did not allow the russians to properly establish supplies, and their group degraded, moreover, both in terms of supplies and in terms of repairing equipment, and thanks to artillery systems of more classic it was possible to gradually grind down part of the russian

military potential and this even more encouraged the russians to the pharmacy, i.e. of course, the artillery to a large extent determined the desire of the russians to make a kind of budget of good will and start the escape from kherson, but you can agree that offensive operations and artillery are still necessary with infantry, it stimulates the enemy to flee, but occupies his positions, it is the infantry that secures it tank troops, i.e., ground components, i.e., without this , relatively speaking, without an infantry post, it will be quite difficult to record our successes, but at the same time , we want to have more technological samples of weapons and sometimes we are exposed to situations which cause us a significant number of questions, in particular

, as yesterday or the day before yesterday. the story that appeared in the american press is related to this green eagle drone, which has the ability to carry out strike functions, the developer company declares that such a complex can to be deployed in ukraine, and the pentagon claims that there are risks of further escalation there, and that there is actually a possibility that the ukrainian side will use this drone for strikes on russian territory, on the other hand, some people says that if the ukrainian army receives this green eagle, there is a significant risk of these drones being shot down by enemy air defense systems or enemy manpads. we understand that such drones, even if they are technologically advanced, are still consumables, because

anti-aircraft defenses can actually kill them, that is, if you are afraid that such a drone will be shot down, then of course ukraine does not need it transfer from the other side, the united states is transferring to ukraine enough modern weapons and means of destruction well, what to say hmm, what is new, the united states is somehow afraid of escalation, in principle, if the united states continues to supply ukraine in commercial volumes, doheimer ammunition, e.e. , guided projectiles for up to 55 mm artillery well, in principle, hmm, we will somehow manage without these drones, that is why the nickeled means were opened. they allow the ukrainian army to grind the russians and their equipment as a system

logistics and free force but at the same time, you special operations force seems to be the first user of such the most technological and smallest drones that are manufactured there by the american company flir. army and the british army and handed over to the ukrainian armed forces. i don't know if you have experience of directly touching these security forces. and if not, then just describe where this person is a small drone can be used in the format of such or other combat operations well, unfortunately, these drones did not reach our military unit well, but we understand that such micro drones will be appropriate, for example , from the hasb of combat operations at national points and when uh, attacks on strongholds, that is, when uh, you have to

launch drones in front of you, which would look to see if there is an enemy, forward eyes, that is, what some forward patrols there are doing, risking people, now there is an opportunity to account for such nanos. i would he even told drones to solve these tasks . well, we have a video. well, i think that now i probably have partin, we won’t show it. we really wanted to show the advantages of this model because it is a really unique model for conducting combat operations, including in the city in limited areas. at the same time, the enemy is not napping . a video of the russian lancet-3 attack drone is starting to appear. i don't know how many of these videos there are. the russians must have collected them in one such information package now

that magazines are all over the internet, but we can see that this the russian lancet 3 can still destroy our military equipment and this actually worries me a bit because the russians are trying to harness this trend in some way, although you understand that the number of these 3 lancets is quite limited. at the same time , are there any recommended approaches to countering these russian munitions of the type lance-3, which differs from the shahid in that it can be controlled and we can find targets due to what the operator sees in this eye. well, i am concerned about countermeasures. do you have any solutions wishes, recommendations, we understand that it protects the ammunition, in fact, a kind of guided missile with a sufficiently long flight range and a long flight duration, on the other hand, so that the operator together with the target, he must first find it

and identify it, so in this case, it can be recommended not to neglect camouflage because the optical channel, that is, television guidance, only about semi-active laser when the illumination from the ground is not mold should be detected for the first time, that is the second point that i would like to point out that now uh weather conditions they are getting worse, for example, we recently had a special operation, the fog persisted until two o'clock in the afternoon, that is, until the 14th, we had to postpone it, postpone it, because there had to be some visibility, so all the lancets are very weatherproof, both in the dele guidance format, and in the active laser format good afternoon, in such an autumn-winter and early

spring period, they may not be effective enough, and here, on the contrary, there are some systems with a guidance angle that either allow you to hit a target with defined coordinates, or any weather conditions conditions, they can be better. and those that depend on the weather. well, for example, the same case that the weather was suitable. the weather was only two hours a day. well, if here a tablet is of course a dangerous weapon, but it is not a panacea for russians, especially now in modern conditions, it stood in the extreme package of american aid, and the american side announced the transfer of those four avenger complexes - these are actually paired manpads there on paired pozar k stinger on a mobile base and you had the opportunity

to assess in detail the capabilities of the wall itself to play relatively speaking, to what extent does this model in combination with one with a mobile chassis allow us to increase the protection of our units against such enemy targets, starting from the shahid and ending with cruise missiles, preliminary assessments by you, yes, yes, by itself, the manpads stinger is very good, that is, i have some experience covering training m i had such an experience working with him, so the avenger due to the fact that it is a really more mobile installation has eight missile launchers for a military air defense machine, that is, for example the deployment of the equipment there of the amphibious assault brigades of the marine infantry brigades, that is, those formations that are armed with e.e.

light armored wheeled vehicles, it will not be inferior to them in terms of cross-country ability, especially since our unit is equipped with other armored cameras . the way of ukraine, that is, for the air defense of the ground forces , this installation is very, very good before, in relation to the hunting of missile control. yes, this is also a very good option, but here is the question to what extent the united states is ready to transfer them in commercial quantities, i.e. for those mobile groups that cover important infrastructure objects from trahead attacks and launched missiles, such a technique.

pedestrian guided missile attack, mobile groups are advancing on the avengers. and really, for the avenger, acrylic and a rocket or a shaket, well , it’s a fairly simple target, it’s really to surrender to her, to insult the main thing - it’s a timely external kiss and ot thus, now on the front edge provides such a target indication. is this the problem that should be solved at the expense of such creation of such a low information field for all our units that are attached to the proof of defensive actions there and to the solution of the function of covering from air attacks, well, let's say this, the relevant leaders have information from the er intelligence network. first of all, these are radar means, er, here it is already here. rather, the question is not the availability of the system, but the system as a whole of the radar field, the field of m-m visual

detection of targets, that is, if the density of the radar means is sufficient, then the information to the fire means will be received in detail in full, age-old time, but when we say, on the example of the work of your units, it is not more burdensome, especially let's say so in tactics from the point of view of the situation on the front it becomes, let's say , positional or maneuver-positional, how can it be outlined in general, what do the combat operations look like now, what principles are emerging the plan, let's say, the positionality of the war, it is more likely due to the fact that both sides have suffered significant losses and cannot advance in all directions, but in certain directions the armed forces of ukraine are also advancing and the russians are trying to fight head-on. these positions are in the same, for example

, in bakhmut. i.e. stabilization in a certain way. it took place, although again that kherson says that no, the russian army was scattered there. that is how we can say that the weather conditions. they certainly do not contribute to offensive actions, because there are areas of the front where, for example auto equipment, for example, our divisions, they are, well , let's say that they are left out of the passability of auto equipment , that's why we pay a lot of attention to the modernization of our vehicles, and so on in the plan and all the necessary, so there are areas of the front where cars simply cannot go and you can only move there on armored personnel carriers. and there are even places where and against the transporter cannot pass and only caterpillar equipment is already used there, i.e. weather conditions eh even before bad weather conditions and

hmm, in what position is the soil, i.e. it now it's viscous, it's wet, and so on, this in a certain way affects the possibility of offensive actions on both sides, but i can't say that both sides are going on the defensive, that is, at least the armed forces of ukraine are not going to defend themselves until this territory of ukraine is liberated from occupation formations from luhansk to sevastopol. well, we understand that. but let's be honest, this spirit must still rest on strong legs or on strong tracks, samples of equipment that are transferred to our soldiers. and is there fighting at night, that's why they say, and this factor affects the organization of activities there related to defense or offensive. of course, no one canceled the night combat operations, especially since both sides use

the same drones as means of reconnaissance, unmanned aerial vehicles with type vision cameras, and units equipped with night thermal imaging sights -e means of observation are also organic and thermal imaging, and the presence of such means greatly facilitates the conduct of hostilities at night, therefore both sides conduct night hostilities and how can you compare equipping, in particular, the russian and ukrainian armies in the segment of e-e thermal imaging devices, do the enemies lack these systems or do they have enough, let’s say yes, a tv that allows them to carry out defensive or offensive actions there, yes, the russians have them and at least the positions that we occupied well, for example, at several positions, we found a lot of carpets from thermal imaging sights, that is, i dreamed that we were left to our own devices with the weapons of the

enemy, but he threw away the cases from the sights. and from this we concluded that not everything is like that and it’s bad with night and thermal imaging devices. can it be such an exception? well, let’s say that it was some kind of intelligence unit and it was not bad, but that is, the means of television of the enemy of ukraine in these means over the enemy, although western aid gradually allows it to get better and better to equip ukrainian units and at night the advantage also goes to us, are these sniper duels the use of snipers on both sides to destroy enemy manpower as it was during the positional war or are snipers now relegated to the background, well, let's say so, in many areas of the front, they really retreated, but in those areas where hostilities are conducted, let's say so, in

urbanized areas or scientific areas, well, this is primarily bakhmut avdiivka, er, in those areas where hostilities are conducted, a kind of war of landings in one the landings are with the russians, and our military is on the other side, and if the distance allows us to introduce a battle with the help of small arms, then you are fighting, that is, let's say so, if in general the role of snipers has become smaller than during the anti-terrorist operation, where was a front-line positional character, but in certain areas of the napier, not only for themselves, the work of gaia is quite active and effective when we are now talking about such a component as communication and protected communication, there was a message about that, in particular, when there was talk of bakhmut about the fact that these russian mobilized people attack in general

without having any individual means of communication, which in fact says that they are simply thrown for dinner as cannon fodder just to detect perhaps at our firing points in order to then try to destroy our positions if you crossed paths with russian full-time combat units, what does the enemy have with a model in this segment, because it is extremely important from the point of view of controlling the units on the battlefield, they have closed communication stations that is, if there, if the means of radio-electronic intelligence intercept the messages reported there through an open channel, there is some kind of baofang, then the use of closed communication by the enemy is also recorded through the same channel. well, for example, they say stop talking there baofengo switch to closed communication and there why don't you work in closed communication there the batteries sow something, i.e. in the regular units of the russians

eh, well, let's put it this way, you can't say that everything is great with communication well, but it's not so bad, that is yes, in some units, where the basis is mobilized, there are some new units there, everything can be very specific for them, and in those units that have already been in the military for a long time , the regular army, especially those that belong to some elite formations in tongue well ok ok ok probably the most will be uh and the ratio of military resources between the ukrainian and russian army, somehow it can be evaluated from the point of view of your experience, do we have enough military resources to even block this protected communication in some way, if it is possible how the russians are operating in those areas where our units are located,

which use secure and non-secure communication, how does this component affect the effectiveness of the units' actions on both sides, well, let's say it like this. rap ​​is such a closed topic and we can only do so er, well, it is very superficial to evaluate the effectiveness, that is, the number, not the efficiency indicators, that is, the fact that it works is 100%. this is how radio reconnaissance works 100%. the third is that there are negotiations on ordinary radio stations. hmm, the bukovydia range is intercepted - this is 100%, er, to what extent do both sides have means of radio-electronic intelligence to intercept flies to encrypt closed communications. but

make even some qualitative comparative ones i can't analyze it. thank you, vyacheslav, for this inclusion. i hope that in the future we will regularly communicate with you in order to understand certain aspects of real hostilities, and i will remind our viewers that on the espresso channel, vyacheslav was a soldier of the special operations forces. of the armed forces of ukraine, which are currently actively practicing, use various technological methods of fighting our enemy, and i will add that no matter how advanced the military technologies and arsenals are, the main factor of victory - these are the skills and fighting spirit of the soldiers, and our armed forces have all this, so later there will be victory, serhii zgorits, the director of information of the defense express company in constantine, which currently works in tandem with the espresso channel, spoke with the guests of our military program, and then the broadcast will continue our new programs