i imagine we had them there as early as 14-15 years ago, you see, there was a fire somewhere, and now ukrenergo and the companies of the distribution network operator acts that generate electricity in the first place, they are the quality of damage, so now we have another blackout on kyiv, but it has really decreased and water ranges. i support the president, by the way, i was on your air. i said this for the first time about three weeks ago. first of all, it is necessary to ensure that justice for the disconnection cannot be like this. one building is nine, one in the world, and the other does not respond to the time or at all. this is definitely not acceptable . although there is a technical staff - but here are the problems of the highest

level . unequivocally the constitution p . oleksiy, by the way, about the government and its initiatives . how to fix what has already been damaged or destroyed, and what is the future. ukraine is asking international organizations to facilitate the supply of energy equipment from post-soviet countries. the deputy minister of energy for digitization feriy safaru said during a seminar with representatives of the un system organization on the coordination and logistics of providing assistance to the energy sector of ukraine, and here i quote him. the deputy minister notes that ukrainian energy equipment often differs from european in terms of technical characteristics, this creates difficulties in in this regard, he appealed to the representatives of international organizations that participated in the seminar with a request to contribute specifically to the establishment of supply the equipment that will be compatible with the ukrainian power system from the post-soviet countries, in particular azerbaijan and kazakhstan, for example, oleksiy, in

your opinion, to what extent, i don't know what percentage of our problems it will be able to solve as of now, and well, we can't talk about what will still be destroyed or damaged, i am not a supporter of the fact that in such a situation it is unnecessary to sing praises to the government and everyone, it is right, but it had to be done somewhere . at what level was the bit ambiguous, it was clear that this was a realistic scenario and it was necessary to prepare, including this equipment of the government, and first of all, the initiative of the energy companies, both private and state, which suffered from this and which should not be saved, not because it is bad , because i because the license conditions

provide for them to create these appropriate reserves-reserves where the generation where the regional energy and hydropower were affected and so on and so on, but i was today. but i would like you to record the opinion, we will continue it now with us, now you know about the situation that is developing in the kherson region, get in touch with us, yes, get in touch with us right now, roman kostenko, people's deputy of ukraine, your colleague, colonel, e-e, we congratulate you, mr. romana. glory to ukraine. congratulations, studio. congratulations, colleagues . glory to the heroes, mr. roman. let's start with yours. such a personal bit of history, you published a post today, from which it seems to follow that you visited your relatives in places in the kherson region that were under occupation for a long time, a charming village. if i am not mistaken , yes, today is the defense forces of ukraine they liberated a charming village in kherson region, which

has many villages in kherson region, and today people met us here, rejoiced, cried today, a very big holiday for ukraine - this is a strategic victory in this direction, of course, there is still a lot of work to be done, but what we have done already means a lot to ukrainians from yes now roman kostenko is in those places where there can be a big problem with communication, these are de-occupied territories . the situation as of today on friday at 5:34 p.m. what is now in kherson in the vicinity and so on everything that is possible live espresso well , look at the data that i, er, are watching because, well, all the troops there are in russia also has the fact that the

enemy has practically left our territory. kherson region is what i see from open sources and our troops are advancing, trying to take up the defense along the dnieper line. kherson , as far as i can see, our troops have entered that's why now it's such an intermediate victory, you know as far as it is intermediate, how much can the enemy still remain on the right bank of the dnieper? did they manage to transport all the equipment now? what is the situation with the antonov bridge and how does the enemy plan to flee now? territory, the enemy has already left. maybe there are some units left, but the enemy has taken the troops to the right bank, maybe there are still places, i don’t see, but practically, i and the advancing troops see

that the enemy has left, but he left behind a lot the territory is mined, well, there are still some explosions here , and uh, the territory is really very mined , and it is very much uh, it causes problems with the advance of our troops. everything went well, god bless, but my enemy filled the territory and today i spoke with local people, met people who suffered from explosive injuries there , limbs were damaged and there are a lot of negatives, there is still a lot of work for us, how can we develop further events just now the ministry of defense of the russian federation is reporting that we are inflicting fire damage on the shores of the russian federation, respectively, on the right bank, how is it, how will

the situation develop, we are on the right bank, they are opposite us, in fact, on the left, and there are some cross -actions, what will it be? i think there will be artillery duels it will be something like maybe some time us like world war i trench war we dig good trenches they dig trenches and we will hold our south again i say it strategic victory for us, we have secured the south, now we will have the opportunity to beat the enemy on the left bank of the dnieper here. our task is to hold the south. i think there will be large trenches built, barricading structures that will not protect against the enemy's offensive, well, how will they plan next, and well, this is only in the planning process it will be known even if this person is known, well, i think that well, you will see it , we will not talk about it, but at the colonel, i would like to ask you what the situation is in the north of the kherson region, look at my information

the enemy has left the right bank, so the enemy can really fire on the left side. i think now everything will be a question of standing, this is stabilization actions, this is demining, this is the establishment of life, but in the settlements we are in, so you understand, there has been no communication for several months. light is very important, people just live in the dark during these curfew hours. when yesterday in snyurivka, there was a sign there from 6:30 p.m. to 6:30 a.m. curfew and shooting on the spot , that's what it said on the central administrative buildings and so on. they had, let's say, relations with the local population. here, too, everything is full of darkness , so a lot will need to be done from a humanitarian point of view . we can

see them, our relatives, and in particular, all this must be fixed, give them the opportunity. well, there is light, water, and from a military point of view, it is necessary to adjust the defense, make maneuvers, transfer troops. thank you, mr. colonel, for the end, briefly. what in your opinion became this, this became the last straw, thanks to which the russian defense on the right bank cracked, the armed forces of ukraine, not even the defense forces of ukraine. and they understood that sooner or later they will remain in the ring, they will need to explain to themselves there in orkovsk region. yes, in russia, it will be necessary to explain why they are surrounded, so i think they understood that they did not have long left and they made such a decision to retreat thank you, colonel, for your service and for this inclusion in the

live broadcast of espresso roman roman kostenko colonel combat colonel and combat people's deputy of ukraine from the liberated kherson region, let's not forget that all this is accompanied by heavy losses and a high price for sure it is appropriate to say that's how oleksiy kucherenko , people's deputy of ukraine, first deputy chairman of the committee on energy and of housing and communal services in the verkhovna rada, mr. oleksiy, thank you for waiting, you understand that operational inclusion is important, i am proud that you are my neighbor in the verkhovna rada, we are literally next to each other this is a real man this is the kind of man i am proud of the verkhovna rada has such people's deputies. like you, oleksiy, like roman pastenko. so, let's go back to the analysis of the situation with a way out of a possible blackout. yes, the day was shot on the spot. yes, that's what i thought about. i

watched all the films about the fascists about the occupation. the main thing was some coercion, you understand , the fascists in the occupied territories always shoot on the spot if they appeared there after the curfew , they are no different from each other, you understand, of all times and all peoples, the fascists in the 39th year were the best allies and we know how it ended for poland, now the current russian hettler does not have such an ally. fortunately, and most likely, we will not return to energy p. oleksiy north korea, the situation in energy and the prospects, so to speak auxiliary scenarios for getting out of the threat of a blackout, see now what are the risks. i will explain to you absolutely at your fingertips. we understand

the consequences of military strikes. we must have a reserve fund. we must have extra repair crews on the website of the state company ukrenergo. you understand the main power line. these are the ones. read them. go in, under what conditions do they work in order to restore the damage? you understand right above the dnieper. i understand where. this is where. the flow of levels is working now, it’s really necessary to thank them, thanking them in a row at the city level, at the public level, and oblenergo, where and ukrenergo, these are generating stations, nuclear workers, after all, but even here, europe, uh, the allies, they are really now

setting up supplies for the equipment of transformers - this is this is different, but there are other very big problems, they are that the financial and economic mechanism of functioning of this given gas market and the wind market is completely unbalanced. i literally today how the head of the tsk conducted this we dealt with a tangle of contradictions the main question is whether we will have enough gas for the winter or not. because today the stations are beginning to consume gas at a very high rate because there is not enough coal near us near kyiv, you understand what is key for us and that's why i can say, unfortunately, unfortunately, as criticized the government today, they did not do everything that did not depend on them, they did not solve a whole series of systemic problems, and today there is a financial and economic situation in the plan, it comes to a standstill,

and there will be no money. sorry, there will be no coal, there will be no salary to be paid. oleksiy, how actively are we currently burning precious gas, and in what situation is it possible to resolve the story with coal, well, this is a big problem, in fact, look, they did not modernize the teplokomunenergo system, but i just came there from pechersk, visited several rooms, apartments, estestve 24-25°. understood and the last one is several weeks, that is, i understand every city mayor, he wants to start the heating season as early as possible and so well, but it is very unbalanced there and today you are dancing, including and on kyivska they really burn this gas and,

unfortunately, heat stations that generate electricity also burn. and this gas was definitely not supposed to be burned now, because you understand that it has to be stretched over the entire heating season. and you already know that the government instructed support of 19 billion to accumulate i actually accumulated 14 pieces of news and left and they just let him go, that is, for a guy with big bonuses now, and we are left with this limited amount of gas, and we need to be crazy. look what the prices are today on the european market, so here i see with coal, i see the problem of the limitations of opticians, they have not accumulated enough and that is why today the savings mode about which at the beginning of today's budget of yours is in front of me he is very, very relevant. damn, he wants everyone

to hear him, to do it voluntarily, but people will limit you in a slightly different way and buy this new kettle, but someone won't because they say, well, why am i? i pay uah 100, you pay uah 200 for electricity, what will i save? and as a result today it is very pjsc today i can feel it through my veins, you understand that the price of electricity is good with us and no one will raise it, but for some reason it is not enough and it is not accidental, so you understand. thank you, mr. oleksii, for this always high-quality and honest analysis, unfortunately we go further, but i hope that on monday you and i will complete this analysis oleksiy kucherenko people's deputy of ukraine first deputy chairman of the committee on energy and housing and communal services

of the verkhovna rada of ukraine once again we thank him for always a high-quality approach to events. well, europe is also preparing for the ukrainian energy crisis in connection with the missile terrorism of the russian federation . there is also a wave of refugees from ukraine. eastern european countries are openly preparing new refugee reception centers. this is reported by reuters. well, the un cites data that about seven, almost 7 million people are internally displaced persons in ukraine, and about four and a half million refugees have registered under various protection programs across europe in connection with the volodymyr studio panioto, general director of the kyiv international institute of sociology, doctor of philosophical sciences, professor, naukma, and solomiya bobrovska, people's deputy of ukraine, congratulations, dear glory to ukraine , to the heroes, glory to success and the fact, perhaps i would like to start with mr. volodymyr. yes, we understand that the enemy will now try to use the so-called

energy collapse, so what they are trying to create a blackout with all the relevant consequences of how it can affect the mood of society and , in general, the internal internal stability of our states, we understand what the enemy is counting on. i think that it depends on the situation, how difficult the situation will be in the country, but so far, all these studies that we are conducting show that the population is ready to endure all these difficulties. and here we are literally -e a few days ago e-e they asked about how ukrainians see the future in 10 years, others are ready to endure

e-e difficulties not for this e literally m-m a few days after the shelling which was e-e the 10th e-e 12 in october, we asked people what they think is necessary to continue the armed repulse of russian aggression even if the shelling of ukrainian cities will continue, it is necessary to proceed to negotiations to end the shelling of the cities as soon as possible, even if for this we have to make concessions to russia, and actually 86%, almost 90%, are in favor of no concessions and continue to fight for the return of the territory, the majority of people will see our country in 10 years as a prosperous country, and not as one

that will suffer from separation. well, we understand that the expectations of our european friends are the mood of the ukrainian population and ukrainian citizens are a little more pessimistic than today e group of women with children, including uh and uh, in fact, we should not expect some kind of energy apocalypse, given the fact that analysts say that russia is exhausting its missile potential, well, first of all, about the missile potential, i think that we uh, about this it is too early to speak. and it is not at all appropriate for all of us

members of the public, deputies, politicians, etc., because this should be hoped for as a last resort, and it is not at all necessary to take into account the fact that their potential may decrease, let's wait for the iranian ballistic missiles and on this is why all our optimism can end very quickly, and in fact i would like the europeans here. in this regard, i would especially praise eastern europe, which asked us back in august-september about our expectations from another wave of refugees of ukraine in connection with the e-e in shelling and damage to energy points, and as it turned out that the ukrainians were less prepared for this than the europeans, who are already accepting yet another wave of refugees, about 30,000 registered again, her wave in the last month after october 10 and of course this there will not be the wave that was in february, march, uh, because even today, the ability of a ukrainian citizen to go abroad is correct, plus the

conditions for accepting ukrainians in poland are changing, uh, including, and accordingly, it imposes certain financial the obligation is one or two, everyone who wanted and could increase their mass, of course they left, someone migrates inside the country, especially in western ukraine, and even though the wave may be much less or a third of its power there than it was in march, when people recovered and were still in principle in shock in a state of shock eh for today i still predict that such departures will be especially from large cities where people will be more able to leave therefore eh in this regard czech republic slovakia poles e baltics e romanians hungarians to things they are preparing it is very necessary, including the terms and conditions, with proposals that are new for ukrainians, and in my opinion, this is absolutely correct, the right decision, the wrong decision on our part, not to be ready for the damage that was inflicted in the country in

october and not to find any engineering by the way, just before the broadcast, i looked at the data of the agency for the promotion of the organization of the dining nations, and 7.8 million are now abroad. two months ago, there were 7 million , that is, in two months, it is 800,000 but now the managers in the city too, iryna vereshchuk urges people not to return if they have such an opportunity in order to ensure less load on our critical infrastructure, so people will probably leave if the situation worsens. although i completely agree that

such a wave is no longer it could be that she was a professor yes yes solomiya is categorical according to the words of iryna boryshchuk from the absolutely wrong statesman's position, don't come because we are unable to ensure your arrival if we knew that such strikes were planned by us. let's be honest, everyone knew it, the bank knew it, you knew it for the cabinet of ministers, the verkhovna rada was behind us, the heads of military administrations, for this there are other possibilities of adjustments so that the citizens of ukraine return and live in physical cities and regions and should be provided with more i will also remind you what it is to catch in the cities and the amount prepared this month was received by the acceptance of internally displaced persons from temporarily occupied territories and why such calls are heard, as for me, this is without politics, but it's a shame and a shame, because you won't believe today even the liberated territories, i'm just literally skupinska with a raisin, and the same thing predicts what will happen to the kherson oblast when it is released, there will be no people to work , even to serve these or other administrations, and

to provide heat, electricity, and gas, and social services on their own there is no, it is more people who work for one of the e-e de-occupied districts. this is simply ridiculous in connection with the number of collaborators who left and who today will be in pre- trial detention centers, so i believe that there is a lot of work and opportunities to find in order for ukrainians to return to work, it is simply a question of the correct statesmanship approach to such things dear mr. professor well, accordingly, we understand that now the kremlin and its war criminals rely on a vulgarly interpreted theory, the approach of the late shchedrovytskyi methodologist, and they are now using missiles in their terrible tactics attempts at reflexive management and the key task is to develop an effective antidote that would not allow us to disrupt our society, mr. professor, on your opinion, what should be the correct internal

strategy of our government to contain various social distortions, so to speak. well, i don’t quite understand what social distortions you are talking about. with the help of one or another of their attitudes, some provocateurs of the provocateurs or with the help of one or another of their i do not know telegram channels will try to channel popular speeches and create them at random so far all the data we will receive show that the population is ready for various difficulties and that's why they feel like part of the resistance. this is some of the last of the studies that

we conducted. some new ones are emerging. some new contradictions and new tensions actually may arise. between those who went abroad and those who stayed. and we also conducted such a study because some of the people who stayed are suffering from these arrivals and from the fact that there is a power outage and others are unhappy. europe a and e that's why such tensions are possible, that's why we conducted such a study, but so far, uh, we conducted our own research, which we asked about uh, what uh,

wording. as you know, many residents of ukraine went abroad due to the russian invasion, and some became refugees the residents of ukraine who stayed understand the refugees and do not judge them, they left until they return , other people, on the contrary, are upset by such a choice and condemn them for leaving and not returning. what is your attitude towards ukrainians refugees in europe and they asked hmm in general and then in er they divided it into some er representative subsamples and asked about separate some categories regarding the general attitude towards ukrainian refugees in europe, the percentage has a positive attitude and only five er they are upset and condemn when we asked about a 38-year-old woman with a minor

child who left for europe and her husband stayed in ukraine, the results are almost the same, too, 90% of them are positive, well, probably in general, when we ask about ukrainian refugees in general, they they see women with children when we ask about a 25-year-old girl who is not married and has no children left for europe, it is also almost the same, a little less than 87%. thank you, mr. professor e.p. solomiya, i want to say that it would actually be interesting to see already sociology and numbers, how many of the population are ready to return our refugees and return to ukraine in the event of the cancellation of martial law and the return to a full life in ukraine here it seems to me that since he very often talks about restoration, so we live in today

it is a difficult period and we have a very difficult winter ahead of us, but i really wanted the intellectual potential, which, by the way, to which efforts are being made to stay in the countries of europe, preparing very good proposals for languages ​​of work, education, and other opportunities. and in fact, in this european country, people are interested in how much they will actually be able to return home, restore their family life, their working life, and arrange an extension of the academic year, people's deputy of ukraine volodymyr paniot. a sociologist professor worked live on the espresso tv channel, and then our colleagues from radio svoboda kherson pick up the informational anatolian relay in ukrainian flags , blue-yellow flags return to the city buildings, and people