lieutenant general and veterans of the foreign intelligence of ukraine for this conversation, we now have to turn to the important foreign policy topic of these days, the midterm elections in the united states, many expected serious changes from them . these changes, which someone expected jensen james marceau, we are in touch with the american political technologist. in the bands of all the americans published that the red wave is the offensive of the republicans, it choked and if this is so, why exactly how could this even happen from the point of view of american political history? that the republican party is the red one, and you won’t have news and brochensto a-a wave congresses and

18 well, as we saw it, it didn’t turn out that way until the neizvestnost that there will be a spring party, but i but if the game then the word will be uh-uh 50 tinder distributions and 49 demokrats means very close. - that's why it 's trump's question, and people are afraid that trump will appear again and cover that in a few days he will already take his announcement that he will be a statement that he is ready to ask the president of the united states again. if we talk about congress we have not yet seen the official results, but we understand from these that there is peace that the republicans will most likely take the majority in the congress, however, there are allegedly not enough of those seats in

order to implement the impeachment of the current president biden and also reduce the level of aid to ukraine as it was before proactively voiced to some republicans that according to the law, that is, according to the constitution, this is a question of impeachment and a question of money, that is, to receive a national one - it is through the congress, through the senate, and from this, it is very important that that the republicans or the majority are so, which means that there is a real possibility to block money to ukraine and there is also an opportunity to raise the question of impeachment or intermediate and if they did it then i think that it will be soon that is, i think that i am yours to this there is already a new session a-a well, you will add a new term to the congress, it will be better clearly if i don’t plan to do it or not and why are these questions epic well, that is, she is

inventing platic reasons but in fact the reality is that they are just a-a the first is there is a lot of publicity, which is bad because twice the democratic party asked to impeach trump, and another question is that we have a presidential election two years later, and there is a lot of entertainment in which you can use some good strategy to somehow remove it or even not his brother's ego from the abyss, it's too early to remove him from vlast, he was taken there by a stove called against trap and to remove a blood scandal. i will bend the presidential election well anyway, let's see soon what that decides and tell me if you talk about the future of the presidential election how are you now according to your position on donald trump after this midterm election how much can you say that the republicans now feel that i am the person

who brings absolutely and unconditionally a guaranteed victory was given to trump, an ankestrov and cash mark. and there is a serious opportunity for him to win , and this is not a joke. our country has 330 million people, and somehow we are the best candidate. well, it’s good, there’s a subway somewhere . it’s real. and it’s real. where can i play in the game? why, don’t forget the game. candidate, that is, i still need 51 peresets in a spikelet, and all you need is no more than the second candidate, which means that only 22 % of people can be a person. вы republican party see 40%. and even raft and know what you want and love to read - it

’s a foreman for much of the game correctness and how can he win the presidential election all the curtains are their own and it continues as сейчас еще парень очень не папиарный вы знает что новой самый самый low numbers than low and the sun asks for everything they say it’s a low rating would be god the producer of our stories from this trump it’s real that he can win against perry and it would be very bad in ukraine, by the way, about other candidates for the upcoming presidential primaries from of the republican party, a competitor of donald trump appeared, at least governor flora, who was re-elected rondesantis, he is now showing his desire to be the next presidential candidate from the republicans, tell me if he is really a threat

to donald trump it's possible to catch santos to win this viber and win it correctly because he's very popular, he's got a lot of things in his ego, and in general, only become what there are. he took all the companies himself in florida - this is to consider kosovo all players by numbers after the republican party what are your stories and all the statics are to the active drop company and here only the republics got lower results, of course i can say that there is a kingship and it works with trump then it is even worse for the republican party even a place and in principle, if he talks about how the situation will develop, you say that trump's victory may be a problem for ukraine, but president trump, too, when he was the president of the united states, he was aware of the risks that

exists in relations between moscow and agreed to the supply of weapons. can this not now be such a mainstream in american political life that one way or another will be very important for any american politician? who would not become the president of the united states ? let's shake the first one in ukraine, well, there are two questions, there are different first ones, his support in ukraine, this is how you know the sky, so much egoraniya, and poroshenko was there, he came, 150 laws were there in the new ears, the impeachment, and against him, from this conversation, from zelenskom that is, if it were angela, when it would have been worse, but how can you say that they want some kind of corruption to deal with ukraine first, and in the subway i think that we are just reading what he himself said about ukraine, written time, that his family

is a kivred ukraine, kostyanye direct ones. how do you remember, and not the white chief louis in his office when he was president, but to me, the bishops are not all good in ukraine? i saw an interesting survey about the internal state and attitudes of americans towards ukraine and help in i will name a few numbers for the country and the issue of opposition to russia is of much less concern to the american voter than their own financial survival, but in relation to the party, here the poll shows 36% of republicans and only 26% of democrats, 31% are independent of any party, and the independent electorate is at the same time more 73% of americans, i emphasize that washington should continue to support ukraine and among them are 83% of representatives who vote for the democratic

party and 66 are now publicists. that is, we can state to mr. jason that those who choose for themselves the republican party, their representatives, they are almost focused on foreign policy, i have to deal with that question a little bit, yes, first of all, yes, of course, there is the position of the basilisk percentage, which will support in ukraine even the leading nuclear war, that is, americans and crazy girlfriends of ukraine, but for help, what is catching it's more important than akameka - it's more important than other questions we have a couple of matches so that they can have it maybe i, for example, am very confused about the field but finally the day has chosen that you are a team, do not do. in the end, i vote for myself and i vote for kamika and i vote for the best salary for myself, even if i get it. what are

the other side's team? i'm rushing for something, well, i'll pounce and vote for my interests first. and you three, i think that it's also more difficult to become states and whales themselves in the whole problem, that's exactly the interests of otters, what do you need in order to win the presidential election? i say in ukraine they heard a it is possible to say that there are such elections where support is less, support is more, it is possible to analyze it with an external politician, it is possible tuesday . that is, if i were to ask you to support the american flag at all schools, yes, the novel is all about asking 95% of people in america to say, yes, i looked, he says

, what if in america? against your own economic interests against my salary and i will vote for more taxes because i do n't dream about these flags carried by schools, that is, there is a big aura on my face this day what is roulette really important and that you will not protect me personally or how is it true that now, in addition to the fact that the economic situation of taxation is divided in a certain way by people who want to vote for the program proposed by the republicans and, accordingly, for the opposite one proposed by the democrats, it is important the issue is women's right to abortion, this is a very controversial topic in american society, but always in america. we have one

of the most restrictive laws, weather and curtains , so the state has the right to decide this issue itself, and it changed not long ago, that is, a- and before many accounts, how do we send a rosin to new york, the idea was that it was possible to get or have an abortion for 9 months even on the last day of fertility, it was possible to have an abortion without problems, alegon, and well, i think that’s what you hear, that ’s not how you know the law in ukraine, as in europe, and from this, they will change it, and our mobility will be convulsed to read and change this law, and the democratic parties will approve of you. it is a very important topic. who was against constipation and voted voted for the

democratic party who was elected and after looking here is skilled or everything is still the distance i am i still want to understand this exactly if you want here you talk about this history sobolt me it is necessary to divide people now, not by republicans, but by democrats, already completely on the second line, don't republicans take risks when they support such a decision, then they turn out to be cut off from a part of their own electors ? courts yes, this is almost the main achievement of the presidency, the second composition of the supreme court, the advantages of conservative judges, now this court is making a serious decision that i like in the republican language, and many voters accept these decisions, and blame it on the

republican , not on the court. they believe that this is also completely against the law again , that is, it can be 20%. and then there are all the last people who depended on the situation, it depends on how it happened. that is, we have a seed, and what you mean, it means that the stupidity of people in america, what you decided , yes, exactly, that you decided everything wrong. well, anyway, we see that they have already scored

. ready vote against the republic and forever, but when something came from this game, it came at the time of whom the people voted for, the majority voted for their personal economic interests. we are very grateful to you, mr. jason jason james martha was in direct contact with us, we talked about the results of the mid-term elections in the united states of america and we are moving further towards the economic bloc, we will have serhiy fursa on the call now, the investment banquet, welcome mr. serhiy, congratulations, and we have to talk with you in detail about this alienation enterprises. i don't know why it can be called nationalization because they say that they can be returned after the war, but what is actually happening and why is it that the government says that it is not

we should say nationalization, say alienation, although in essence it is the same, in fact the difference is very small and unless lawyers can figure out why there is such a big difference, well, each of these enterprises has its own meaning from a military point of view, when we talk about a crane - these are military vehicles, the enterprise is bankrupt, it is not can work, the state decided with such a simple solution, just make him work part-time and take it out. this is how the bankruptcy happened, yes. although i don’t know, you issue the same zaporizhzhia transformer company, it is bankrupt. you can’t work at the same time the russians are attacking our energy infrastructure and transformers we need a bankrupt enterprise can work the state comes and says i’ll take all the plants and plus there’s also grigoriyshyn the owner who is a russian double problem motor sich the problem of boguslaev and ukrnafta and ukrtatnafta well here it is first of all, this is the problem of kolomoisky, who, apparently, does not play a very fair game, even during the war there were

rumors that he, er, because of his activities, the budget provided a lot of funds and the state decided to create a vertically integrated company where ukrnafta has licenses and there are ukrtetnafta oil fields, there is a kremenchug oil refinery, which is the truth and ukrnafta also has a gas station , diesel is very necessary for the armed forces, it is needed for the army and the state has decided, let's create a vertically integrated integrated campaign, let's start the process, we will definitely rebuild kremenchutsk oil refinery, and somehow we will protect it from russian missiles and we will be happy, mr. serhiy. can we call this partly deoligarization? again, i don't like the name geologization that is used in ukraine because it is an imitation of the fight against the oligarch, the real directorization is the rule of law, in fact , the fight against corruption, and then the big oligarchs

simply turn into a big business that works according to the law. there are no problems with them. therefore, these are unpleasant decisions for the oligarchs. let's do it, but i would call it where oligarchization is accepted. are you sure that the government that starts to manage enterprises manages them more effectively than the owner, you already mentioned the paints, as far as i remember, in 2022, he already started working there to produce some trucks, machines began to be used in the military industry, how much is there a guarantee that all this will happen again and continue now, look, the state is always bad, the owner is a priori, but now when we let's discuss about the color of the kraz bankruptcy procedure and that's why it doesn't work as it should work, judging by everything, did this cause a problem for the state, which during the war needs a lot of equipment and that's why

came to kraz due to the fact that this company is now under the bankruptcy procedure. serhiy, some economic experts write that after the transfer of ukrnafta and ukrtatnafta to the state , the value of naftogaz's assets may decrease by uah 15 billion. do you agree with this? i do n't see it at all. ukrnafta is actually the property of naftogaz, the fact is that 50% of ukrnafta was owned by naftogaz. this is the only season of ukrnafta and naftogaz. if now ukrnafta is withdrawn from naftogaz and fully subordinated to some ministry, for example, until mathematically, purely mathematically, naftogaz will become smaller, or ukrnaft will be withdrawn from it, there is a separate story, well, that is, if the nationalization of all 100%, and if it turned out that they felt, including

the shares of naftogaz, well, if the state takes away state companies, if it happened, well, mathematically , yes, but there and the state and there is the state. it is clear. what do you think will happen to the ukrainian infrastructure? in principle, right now. to what extent will we be able to prevent this russian plan to completely destroy it? this is a billion-dollar question. no one has any answers. this is a competition, you know how it is a socialist competition of its time in russian, rockets on one side, on the other side of our energy sector, which are restoring and air defense that are trying to cover it up, so who will win in this competition. we have understood which team we are rooting for, but predict who will win yes, i don’t know, i just don’t know how many missiles, for example, the russians have left and how many missiles they are ready to spend on destroying our infrastructure, and here it depends whether it will be 50 missiles or 150. and we don’t know that yes, and regarding the slowdown of inflation, mr. serhiy, the

national bank has such a forecast, i don’t know whether you will call it comforting or not. however, up to 2025, which will reduce the inflation level to 5%. do you think there are any more optimistic options in ukraine this year and next inflation will be high this year or will not increase significantly and somehow there is no magic wand to keep us from significant inflation, it is not only the war that affects it, it also affects the general world inflation, which is a record now in the world and this year you are on the draw. next year it will also be high and we will sell or inflation plus one way or another due to the war there is a certain devaluation of the hryvnia, this also affects prices. well, even the fact that the russians are destroying our energy infrastructure, the fact that we have a blackout, this also leads to an additional increase in prices, so it is clear the 22nd and 23rd years will be with a high level of inflation of 30%. it will be unpleasant

, it lowers our standard of living, of course, but to deal with it well, it is not difficult to prevent it, what will happen next depends on many factors, including depending on how long it will last and how the economy can exist at all, he said, in such a period of political and military uncertainty, our economy has always worked against it, but thanks to the state and that. even now, we see a very significant flexibility of ukrainian business, there is a drop of 39% this month, but in general, this year there is -35 -30%. and this fall has already happened, of course here a lot now depends on whether or not we will have electricity because as a proper enterprise what can they work from but if we remain at that level of destruction of the energy infrastructure. as of now, even we can expect economic growth until next year. are there any options, mr. sergey, that we currently have to somehow support

the average small business there? is it at all impossible in the conditions of war? you buy what ukrainian business produces, this is how you support it, this is the only possible way for us to support business now, we have always said that there is a certain pressure on business from the state, now under during a full-scale war, it decreased. as you observe. no, it did not decrease. and how do you in principle assess the possibilities? if you want to create new jobs in the situation. yes, because it is also during the war, they will be able to create new jobs because jobs arise as a result of investments, someone invests, as a result, something starts to be produced, for this, jobs are created, while the war continues, by and large, no one will invest in ukraine, there are, of course, certain

exceptions that apply to some, you know, i'm like that a joke no matter what happens in the country there is always someone whose sales will grow, but this is an exception while the war continues, no one will risk investing , which means that we cannot talk about creating new jobs well, what about the people who are now abroad and how are they in such a situation to return home. if we don't have a place to work here, it's difficult. well, if you're asking if i have a prescription. no, i don't have a prescription. it helps a lot now that many people can work remotely. and no matter where a person is, and in today's economy, very often, she can to work on a conditional basis ecuador to the united states to france this remote work now helps a lot and by the way, the pandemic prepared us so much for war because a lot of poverty learned to work decentralized work they learned to work, so they gave away ukrainians who are now unemployed in ukraine as well it will be difficult to

find a job until it ends, the best solution is something. both ukrainians and those ukrainians both in ukraine and those in poland and the czech republic. where is the only recipe so effective - this remote work, but the government, you know mr. serhiy , on the contrary, calls people to return, but maybe this is not very right in such conditions, when no jobs are offered for us after the war, the biggest problem will be depopulation, the biggest problem. we will have a lack of people, and therefore the problem of the war, the longer it lasts more people will stay abroad because they will simply arrange their lives and will not want to return, that is the government's appeal. i think they are working because of this, i have not heard such appeals for the first time. by the way, but if they exist, they have logic this long-term perspective, because people are the main thing, and in fact, after the end of the war, the state will face a very significant challenge to regulate migration and make sure that migrants go to ukraine in the first

place, for example, to simplify the right to obtain a work permit in ukraine for foreigners. it is very difficult to obtain legally and many of other things, depopulation will be significant for our country in the economy in the sense of the next 10 years, and we are people who will be abroad, they can make some real contribution to the economy in ukraine, in which they will not live, well, that's how it was. by the way, they used to help families by sending money here, investing here, this is an important foreign investor, a person who works abroad. wage-earners still send money to ukraine, and on the other hand, many ukrainians living abroad spend money that they either earn in ukraine or receive a pension in ukraine or are used to saving in ukraine, and this every month leads to the washing out of our of the economy is about 2 billion dollars each, that is, people no longer

keep money in their own accounts, relatively speaking, because all people simply live in spain, for example, they have a card of a ukrainian bank, they have money in a ukrainian bank and spend it in spain . they leave the ukrainian economy and go to spain, for example. yes, they don't have other options, even night ones, there are no other savings except those that are in ukraine. objective reality i understand that such tools that have always fueled the economy, such as christmas bonds, all this is no longer working, why did nobody's applications fuel the economy ? would not give, no one would lend now in ukraine it is simply impossible due to military risks and in

ukraine the ministry of finance also well, many do not know money and therefore now it is quite logical that in fact they they borrow from official creditors or take grants from the americans that do not have to be returned, or they take money from the european union, where there is a 30-year loan at 0%. and this is how the same budget deficit is financed. this is how money goes into ukraine. serhiy. thank you very much for your answers, as always professional. serhiy fursa , an investment banker, was in direct contact with us on this matter. mr. vitaliy portnikovy is diagnosed with rheumatism and arthrosis arthritic, it is impossible to get used to it, it does not allow me to move. i tried everything. and at the pharmacy, i bought a yellow dolgit cream. it saves me from pain in

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