with ukraine, putin is looking for peace and so on and so on. you believe all the speculations because we have not held a candle to putin, we do not know what is in his head, but you believe that there are arranged negotiations that are so underground and that putin is actually inclined to well, ending the war on well on western terms on western terms on the western front on ukrainian terms i think that such attempts are really taking place he receives similar messages from his visavi from the west from third world countries, he is trying to be mediators and with the vatican from kotaru or from the hutsul language of arabia, a cockroach, but these are not the arguments or the messages to which he will listen to his policies. putin is still

in a war situation, he is not going to get out of it, is it worth understanding? he thinks categories of a new attack, a new attack, a counterattack , etc., and so on. this indicates all his actions, encodes the purpose and bet on the so-called hawks who directly depend on him and in the elimination of people who had their positions there or were critical of the military operation in ukraine in general therefore, as a change, i expect that external factors will put pressure on putin, he will change his position there from november 15 or from there from the 20th to december 1st, i wouldn’t believe it and so i believe that uh, the culminating points of this war and we haven’t passed yet thank you very much vitaly kulyk, political scientist, director of the center for the study of civil society problems, he was with us in the program hosted by mykola veresen, now he is giving

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good health, glad to see you a-a and i would like to ask the question that i just asked your colleague, a ukrainian political scientist, about whether there is , in your opinion, an understanding in europe and north america that something should be radically done with russia is not with putin, not with the establishment, namely with russia, because this is a factor, russia is not a factor of putin. in my opinion, i could be wrong, please address. yes , this issue is being discussed and there are different positions. it's another management and then you can already negotiate, others say that you are a

deeper problem, such a post is imperial or not his interview syndrome and there is so far, as far as i know, there is no such position, now it seems to me the first people, they still can't if they think longer ago that now only urgent problems are being discussed like pensions, but look where you and i know which vector. probably, germany in the 1933s and 1945s is often compared with modern russia, and when discussing the second world war, they mention not only the marshall plan a and the margentau plan, i.e. a plan of harsh, brutal er behavior of the world in

relation to er post-hitler germany , i.e. simply turning germany into an agriculturally backward country with practically no army, no industry, without, and vice versa, the plan the marshall plan when he says that everyone must be the same, we must help, we must develop democracy and so on and so on. it turns out that the marshall plan won in the margentau plan and we now see modern germany, which we will talk about later, but what to do, which vector can win on your from your marshall's point of view is currently being discussed in relation to ukraine, although this comparison is not quite. well, it is adequate, because then the situation was different and there was one country that helped, uh, it helped a hell of a lot of countries

of course, there is no need to compare post-war germany with ukraine. rather, there are other western european countries that received help through mr. marshal. and morgen town’s plan was about western germany and the fact that it is necessary to turn this empire into such a small state or something like that, well, it’s not quite possible to compare it here either , because it was a forged territory, and in this way, well , they have such plans in relation to russia, they don’t make sense yet, but the scenarios are being discussed, when there will be anger from russia, because of some western plan

but but rather an internal uh factor because well there are these centrifugal uh tendencies and if the prizes the prize will be deep then you can really expect something there well what will happen like let's say the collapse of the tsarist empire and or the soviet empire it discusses this that there really is such a scenario of disintegration. do you think this is an important question? right now , two or three days ago, just after the elections in the united states, such speculation began.

we will have to have conversations, we will still have to somehow agree on something. and then the question arises, if zelensky suddenly called you and asked mr. andreas . please well, i think that here the western leaders should stand as if from a negotiation because this society demands, that is, they want there to be some kind of dialogue with putin, because uh, if uh, well, it wasn't just about the military question and there were also some diplomats - the search for a

diplomatic solution, but well, on the other hand, of course , for ukraine. it is necessary to be open to contacts for some kind of communication with moscow in order to be able to say what we are. we have communication. you are trying to resolve it diplomatically. well, what if. just if you are purely theoretical, it would be possible. if we were to agree on the territorial integrity of ukraine so that there would be no more of these

annexed territories, well, this is the usual fantastic scenario. but one could simply say that if you are ready to withdraw the troops and return all the occupied territories again, then of course it would be a good political solution, that is, you can talk about this topic in this way, of course, it does not make sense, but for uh, let's say for western politicians, uh, such communication is like if she beat, she would be useful, because then they would have been able to say to our societies, what do we see? here, there are some negotiations, dialogue, some kind of diplomacy. well, there is no result. and that's why we need to support ukraine and appreciate russia, but now

here, well, let's say in germany, the eu really has a public demand for negotiations on er and diplomats because people believe that it is possible to negotiate and resolve all this in some diplomatic way, although it is impossible of course, but people think that if it is just some misunderstanding and you have to talk about the address, please , you have lived your life several times, there is no sense. there is no principle and there will not be, that is, the moment may come when the meaning will appear. well, for example, ukraine enters the crimea or ukraine begins to advance in the donbas, that is, the military

forces diplomats to start conversations. he would not have been there if the events had not developed, i ask why because he is not an idiot, he withdrew the troops from kherson, so after all, they persuaded him in six months, and six months later they also persuaded him that dude, we will lose the entire army if we continue to stand there then we will have minus 20 or 30 thousand soldiers , that is, there is a probability that it will happen someday , someday it will be possible to talk with russia, well, i think if it is possible to agree on the peace beer of the troops, then it makes sense, of course, and here, by the way, these questions may arise again let's say the un peacekeeping forces

. this is an old question that has been discussed for many years. does it make sense to introduce a third force during the transitional period? well, that would be formalized and then transfer this territory to ukrainian production. that is, such states conversations they make sense, but for this, the russian constitution must be changed according to the russian constitution, all these annexed territories are now part of the russian federation, and therefore, and this talk about and they do not have it once, that is the whole problem, that is, putin he created for himself now such a strange situation where he is. he as the

guarantor of the russian constitution cannot agree on anything. let's go to germany. it's interesting. very interesting events are happening in germany. we will definitely start with mrs. merkel as it is possible to evaluate her behavior, it is ah, it is the same, well, she is silent, we know, very rarely says anything. this is rational behavior from your point of view, when she was chancellor. is this still the result of her sentiment towards the soviet union ? and that she didn't believe until the end that gas is a weapon and not

trade. well, it's hard for me to say here, first of all, it must be said that this was already such a course, er, a general german foreign policy course that began before she became chancellor. that is, this was there a course when schroeder was still chancellor and this course was supported by a large part of the german political and special economic elite and also german society. that is, there was a belief that if we trade and have good relations so it will save save the peace. that was the philosophy. the more we communicate and have economic relations, the better for the world. that was the philosophy of

merkel. she was just here responding to this public request. park foreign policy because that's why i believe that she has such well, not all the responsibility. that is, she was simply a part of such german poetic culture, which is now finally changing and er reflected, if these er myths that were er not only in merkel but in er -e more part of german society but i believe that er, well, this is eastern politics, here is the politician , er, merkel, she was ultimately, uh , a big mistake, and now it says that it was right then, but it is a lot of people now, no, no,

no people don't see it as they think it is was a mistake, and it is also losing popularity now, because it was then that you made a mistake there, the technical stream is two and bucharest and so on. well, maybe the last question is whether ukraine can take the place of russia in the sympathies of the germans and the german establishment, well, in some ways it has already happened, i think that there is a lot of emotional support in germany and also in other western european countries, and it is reflected there in various initiatives from civil society

, and there is still a lot of support for this state support, i.e., public support for state policy, in relation to ukraine, there are sanctions against russia, that is already there, i was still expecting you to ask whether ukraine can take the place of russia, the russian federation, in the security council of it, hmm , because of such things. when you started asking me about i thought about it but really now well, as for the popularity of russia in germany, there is a very skeptical attitude towards russia now because what we see about every day on tv shocks people and russia has lost its fucking power

western europe she didn't have the soft power of eastern central-eastern europe, but now she's lost that soft power, popularity there among the germans and i think also among the french , it's more difficult in some southern countries there in greece, in italy, there. i guess it’s more difficult there , but here, now, already in germany, the candidates there in russia are no longer popular, as far as ukraine can occupy that niche, so to speak . well, for now, it’s open for me. did good tip i will be here now if i were to promote the replacement of e-e russia and ukraine in the un security council

a great idea thank you for the address and we will be transferred to vadim pozniakova co-founder of the project decommunization of ukraine and good health mr. volodymyr, i'm glad you found time on sunday don't drink beer and to talk means about serious matters, and look at decommunization. i just watched all the steps even before independence. there in 1989, 1990, 1991, and i came to the conclusion that only now it has become organic, organic is when society understands why that monument is necessary demolish and the other one put up. and do you think that decommunization will come to the very end in this way?

well, we see now the same poland in the baltic countries that they are removing monuments not only to communists, but to some kind of military there, somehow , in general, the entire russian or soviet era is disappearing you completely think that now it has already come to this and in ukraine ukrainians will already understand this already organically for ukraine it is already organically for some regions of ukraine where similar processes are taking place that is, lvivska frankivska ternopilska the transcarpathian region is partially volyn. that is, these processes have already started there and are slowly moving. i hope that these processes will be organic for the more eastern regions as well, because although there is a problem with this now, i think that in time we will push it all the same. yes, but until look, i'm looking at vatutin well, knowing the history and knowing more, well knowing

dotted knowing and i say that i understand, but some person is in poltava or in kharkiv or i don't know in donetsk, and what is your fault vatutin, this is such and such the main question that is being asked, i am looking on networks and what do you think vatutin, what is he there, how do you prove to them whether your supporters, the people who stand with you at the barricades, have any arguments. well, honestly, i will say the majority - if you take even the level of support for decommunization , diversification to large-scale penetration , the level of support now. if a person has not already understood why to carry out this diversification, why to dismantle these monuments, i doubt that it is even possible to prove anything in fact, that is, i am really now communicating with a large number of people which, even before the short-term invasion

, there was a half-hearted position on communitization , diversification, something from pushkin is not needed, but it is not needed, a soviet soldier, he is a liberating warrior, now no one, yes, a lot of people have changed these positions on our side, and if a person already don't prove why there is no need to remove vatutin, regarding which there is even a consensus, even in poltava itself, where the vast majority of people do not ask anyone for the dismantling of that vatutin zygin pushkin, only the mayor is there he still protects all this, unfortunately, but what to do with great art, you know, i’m a small artist here, and not a citizen’s art, as they once said in the soviet union, but my friend, the late unfortunately, it’s royburd sasha from the point of view of this memory, it's simply unique. i don't understand what's unique about it. i'm not an

artist, but he's an artist. i believe him. and he has good taste. so what are the possible exceptions? mr. vadim, i should ask if there are possible exceptions. i also trust my friends artists who say the same thing, but there is no place in the museum, that is, for such unique sculptures of the type that all of them are, by the way, in ukraine there are not so many such good, high-quality monuments that were made by the soviets or the imperials, but there is a place in museums for stamping , in general, it can be eliminated no one needs it, that is, why should it occupy a prominent place in one of the ukrainian museums, there it is necessary to explain to people who he is, what he is, and the context and historical era. but he should not be in the public space because, well, the monument is nice, but so are you what would be a good monument to the conditional givi motorola or panoshaig? that is, this is a similar story, well, from a historical point of view,

it is not known whether it existed again in real life, because there is a strong suspicion that this is a 100% made-up story, you are not a hero and all this is made up, so why? by the way, its great director contributed. and mr. dovzhenko, but we will not talk about that now, and if you say that it is already perceived by society, then it means that we can go through two stages of the actual eastern european in one stage. it mentioned bearing in mind that at first they really removed all the lenins, the stalins, and so on, then they waited and only now they are just uprooting , there is no way you can meet in poland or there or there or there some general or a

liberating soldier there is a place for them all without a doubt, in the cemeteries there, all the graves are normal, no one disturbs them, but you won’t be there anymore , that is, the ukrainians can already remove the pushkins and lermontovs and generals and officers and soldiers and political and non-political figures cultural and so on and so on and the like so hidden conditions under good conditions we will be able to do it and skip several stages although i will say that in fact even in the baltic countries in poland, especially in slovakia, there are still a sufficient number of these soviet monuments and in the same slovakia there are still these aloshkas and serially, there are quite a lot of hammers, that is, there is still a very large number of these monuments in eastern europe that will have to be dismantled for a certain period of time, because unfortunately there are also many of them and, unfortunately, we have

the largest number of various colonial markers, and i think there may be two more that we will have to deal with because there are only a few thousand of them. and there are only 1,020 streets that need to be compared. therefore, it will all take a little longer, but the pace that has been taken now and the pace that is currently at what pace is the process going there at all of diversification and decommunization, strictly speaking, is not complete. well, they are now in some moments overtaking that of the 15-16th year when the laws were compared when it was implemented, that is, now without any law of tempo, sometimes even prevail, and this is a request from below, just the same, if it were not for the sabotage by the ministry of culture, it is possible that everything would have happened faster, because for many years there, various local, city, village councils have turned to the ministry of culture and are waiting only for permission or they will remove the conditional pushkin suvorov, a soviet soldier, and so further and the like , that is, if it had been allowed to abolish the cult, there would have been no sabotage, then the pace would have been simply crazy, this kind of thing did not happen even during the official

decommunization, what to do with mr. bulgakov well, for example, with viktor nekrasov, what about them they do as if they are russian and even some like bulgakov are considered anti-ukrainian as i personally don’t think so but that’s another story another story but what to do with such anti-soviet russian people is also a question, they are russians they use a lot of russian narratives but they are anti and anti-soviet anti- well russia is the center of the soviet union. no one here will throw a stone at me, that is, they and if the russians and anti-russian honors here are actually a difficult issue, part of it already i see is simply a public consensus regarding some last name